[WSG] bi-lingual page?
hi all this is the first time I've done anything like this but I'm wondering what it takes to display two languages (and therefore two charsets) on the same page? - English and German the content will be a side-by-side translation of each language thanx barry.b PS: no doubt I'll have more questions later but I'm starting from the display and working backwards to the content storage (ensuring the database can support unicode, etc) and then the content capture (a form in either English and German) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] setAttribute not working on Firefox
Hi all: is there anything wonky with .setAttribute, sometimes not working in Firefox? windowdiv = document.createElement(div); windowdiv.setAttribute(className,wclass); windowdiv.setAttribute(id,name); the classname is not being set any suggestions? thanx barry.b ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Flash, HTML Forms and Firefox
Is it possible (without using flash transparency) to display html on top of a Flash Element in Firefox? thanx barry.b Barry Beattie CF Web Developer Alpha Business Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: +61 07 3216 0999 Unit 1, 31 Thompson Street Bowen Hills QLD 4006 www.alphabus.com.au Virus Disclaimer: Please note that this email may contain computer-generated file(s) as an attachment. Whereas we take every effort to protect our files from computer virus, we recommend that you check the file(s) with your own virus detection software prior to opening it. If you would prefer to receive a hardcopy of the file please email or phone. Alpha Business Systems does not accept liability for the consequences of any computer viruses that may be transmitted with this email. Confidentiality: This email and any attached files are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error, please advise us by return email or phone and disregard the contents and immediately delete it and destroy any copies
Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team
ummm didnt I read somewhere that the next IE browser will be with the next OS (longhorn) in 2006? anyone confirm that? cheers barry.b
[WSG] FYI: article on making your ASP.NET pages XHTML valid
there's probably only 10 ASP.NET developers on list that this might apply to and probably 9 that have already read this - but just in case you're the one that missed out this (updated) article might be of some help A C# class to make your ASP.NET pages XHTML valid http://www.codeproject.com/aspnet/ASPNET2XHTML.asp cheers Barry Beattie CF Web Developer Alpha Business Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: +61 07 3216 0999 Unit 1, 31 Thompson Street Bowen Hills QLD 4006 www.alphabus.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] onClick question
D'oh! my bad. I was clarifying the onkeypress attribute and C+P'ed the wrong stuff. cheers barry.b -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Andrews Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2004 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] onClick question hehe. no, change onClick to onclick, and onKeyPress to onkeypress. all attributes in XHTML must be lower case. they'll still work fine in browsers. On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:22:05 +1000, Barry Beattie wrote: you mean like this? p id=photobutton a href=# onClick=window.print();return false onKeyPress=window.print();return false Click here... /a (just curious, wanting to get it right) barry.b -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Focas, Grant Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2004 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] onClick question Try putting an onKeyPress as well, so that it's device independent Grant Focas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2004 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] onClick question I'm getting an error message when I try to validate this page: http://v4.csatravelprotection.com/csa/packinglist.do From the W3C validation service: Line 514, column 40: there is no attribute onClick p id=photobuttona href=# onClick=window.print();return falseClick here... Here is the offending code: p id=photobuttona href=# onClick=window.print();return falseClick here to print this page/a/p Why wouldn't this validate? I looked into the O'Reilly htmlxhtml guide and it doesn't say anything about it being deprecated. Does anyone have a suggestion? I've got the page set to xhtml 1.0 transitional Thanks Ted ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Brisbane Meeting, Wednesday
thanx to the WSG(bris) organisers and John Allsopp for a very interesting presentation. I certainly got some ideas out of last night. SO... while we wait for John to blog the resources of the presso, can anyone remember some of the links he had? - esp the W3C semantic viewer tool? thanx again barry.b -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Allsopp Sent: Monday, 6 September 2004 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Brisbane Meeting, Wednesday Lea, can I just say I am very much looking forward to being there. But just one slightly off topic question for any who lives in Brisbane or travel there frequently (please answer offlist) What's the best way to get from the airport to the CBD. Taxi? Bus? Other? Thanks, and see you in Brisbane Weds night, John John Allsopp :: westciv :: http://www.westciv.com/ software, courses, resources for a standards based web :: style master blog :: http://westciv.typepad.com/dog_or_higher/ :: WebEssentials Sept 2004 Sydney Australia :: http://www.we04.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] GeoURL/Seach engine localisation
meta name=ICBM content=LAT, LOG / this is going to sound even more OT but ... ICBM: Inter-contental Balistic Missile, yes? or is it a standard of sorts for detailing lat/long? (I'm thinking of uses for postage rates, distances, etc ...) just a thought... cheers barry.b -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Street Sent: Friday, 27 August 2004 1:38 PM To: Web Standards Group mailing list Subject: [WSG] GeoURL/Seach engine localisation This is something which has been bugging me for a few days, so I'm asking here... it's not standards as such, but it is accessibility related to a vague extent ;) GeoURL is still not functioning (http://geourl.org), but the meta tags which are used to specify location are as follows: meta name=ICBM content=LAT, LOG / meta name=DC.title content=DESCRIPTION / I was wondering if search engines (Google, I'm looking at you) can/do make use of this ICBM data for localisation? I know that it works on IP blocks, and possibly other data, but why not this as well? Or do search engines use this information already? And if so, why aren't more people using it to get targeted traffic? This is primarily a 'bloging thing, of course, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be more widely applied. Just curious... I'm hoping this isn't too far off topic. Joshua Street base10solutions Website: http://www.base10solutions.com/ Phone: (02) 9898-0060 Fax: (02) 8572-6021 Mobile: 0425 808 469 E-mails and any attachments sent from base10solutions are to be regarded as confidential. Please do not distribute or publish any of the contents of this e-mail without the sender's consent. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to the e-mail, and then delete the message without making copies or using it in any way. Although base10solutions takes precautions to ensure that e-mail sent from our accounts are free of viruses, we encourage recipients to undertake their own virus scan on each e-mail before opening, as base10solutions accepts no responsibility for loss or damage caused by the contents of this e-mail. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] can you see why my suckerfish menu is off line in ie/firefox
http://localhost/forum2004/navtest.htm localhost? not for me... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Hough Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] can you see why my suckerfish menu is off line in ie/firefox here is the url i am talking about http://localhost/forum2004/navtest.htm i have 2 css problems with my suckerfish implementation; 1. in IE6 the sub menu is sitting to the right of the parent menu LI. Not sure why. it seems ok in firefox. 2. however in both firefox and IE the sub menu sits at the top of the main UL instead of the bottom. I can fix this with a top: 191px; property on the sub menu UL but i would think with this UL having an absolute position it should force it to sit at the bottom of that container? what am i missing? Any takers. much appreciated. nameadam hough sitedampsponge.com _ Play Love Hunt to win a $9000 holiday and find love! http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mclovehunt/lovehunt.aspx ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] divs and copying their content
hi all this might actually be something simple that I've forgotten but I'm noticing more div layed out sites are harder to accuratly select the text content. Select a word or two and next thing you know you've highlighted (and copied/pasted) half the page inc images. to see what I mean, see if you can cleanly select a couple of words from http://webstandards.org/. you'll probably end up with more than you selected can anyone explain why? thanx barry.b * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] access keys and tab index
They are used to seeing this type of thing in application software, but not on the web. Geoff, from where I sit, I'd have to disagree. people are wanting more out of the web. clients are demanding more functionality in web development than just stuff to read and look pretty. F'instance we're currently re-writing a legacy client/server app for the web (in ColdFusion but we all wish we could afford Flex 'cos this would be so much easier). because of this, we have key listeners and tab indexes everywhere. Almost all of the app is made up of forms and reports. Because they are familiar to a windows environment, this has become a defacto standard. the apps' user base starts from office workers (with some computer skills) thru to teachers, students (as young as 8yo) and parents (with diminishing computing skills). it's a pain in the backside but it has to be done just my 2c worth barry.b -Original Message- From: Geoff Deering [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2004 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] access keys and tab index I agree with what Derek says, and he sums it up nicely. I have been using accesskeys since WCAG1 came out mid 99, and can cause more usability problems that provides ease of accessibility. I even use span to underline the key letter to indicate the access key, which is the standard way to show an access key, and the feedback I got was that most people think there is some sort of browser display problem when they see it. They are used to seeing this type of thing in application software, but not on the web. In cases like this, when I get this type of feedback, I think users are right, because it ends up being too foreign an interface for them when deployed rarely, then on top of that, you have the erratic behaviour. If they associate erratic behaviour with your web site, then what impression are you giving (... those crazy accessibility people:-)). It also seems that users require accesskeys and use them in different ways on the web than are used by applications software. In applications software it is mainly used for hotkeys and navigation, whereas it seems that most users requiring them for accessibility would prefer that they be designated for prime operations, ie form navigation rather than site navigation. I'm not saying there is anything bad about accesskeys or the idea behind them, but the way they have been implemented by user agents ... (and also us designers) has created a bit of a mess. It's a pity. I still use them, but more and more sparingly. Mainly for forms. But I think this is a good idea that has to evolve somehow before it becomes reasonably usable. But maybe the implementation is just not suited to the web. Geoff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2004 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] access keys and tab index Hi ted, recommend you read (if you haven't already) this article More reasons why we don't use accesskeys: http://www.wats.ca/articles/accesskeyconflicts/37 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] RTF editor (like SOedit) for Macs?
hi all is there an RTF editor that can run on a mac? if not in safari, then mozilla for OSX? the flash one kicking around is a bit feature thin thanx barry.b * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: Future.....(was: Re: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs)
awww... that's a bit rough on IFRAMES (and framsets in general)... we're building web applications, not web pages per se. We're being influenced by various windows UI's (more than just MS Windows) because that's the standard that people expect. We're also pushing ahead as far as a web platform will allow (using DHTML without going too far down the Flash UI route). to do that with dynamic content and without iframes/framsets is just silly. Look at your Windows Explorer. you see more than one independent pane that interacts. Look at (admittedly old hat) Outlook Web Access (OWA - a clunky but workable ASP web front for Outlook). you just can't build that sort of functionality without frames. you *might* with JS remoting calls changing the innerHTML of divs but it would be such a massive headache to maintain such a convoluted page structure (logic, not layout). I waited years for IFRAMES to be cross browser (well, a couple anyway). Don't you dare take them away now... just my 2c (while bored writing db connection code) barry.b -Original Message- From: Lee Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2004 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Future.(was: Re: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs) Scott wants to know who voted the W3C the ruling authority. That was me! 20 years on the *net gave me that right. Seriously, though, who voted the ISO or IETF to be authoritative enough to establish rules for people using the Internet and World Wide Web, oh yes there is a difference? Who established the rules for the World Wide Web which ethical designers and developers attempt to follow? If web development is your job, don't you think you should be good enough to follow the rules established? If you were a construction builder wouldn't you have to follow rules? As for iframe, I don't like it either. I've used it once, but the page it was pulling in was a flash communications presentation for my radio show. As for frames, they were the most ignorant thing ever created. Personally, they should be allowed to exist today, but for some reason we can't get rid of them by some developers. The real problem with frames is people don't know how to use them in the first place. Second, they lack any real features for accessibility. For SEO purposes they are really bad. Frames were allowed in the beginning because browsers didn't have very good caching abilities. Now that they do, you don't need them. They won't help. Perhaps that will help some. Scrolling DIVs at least put all the information on the same page, unless you plan on pulling in another page. In my opinion the latter is a mistake. Search engines say all content must be visible, it never says you can't scroll a DIV to see all the information. Sincerely, Lee Roberts http://www.roserockdesign.com http://www.applepiecart.com -Original Message- From: Hugh Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Future.(was: Re: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs) Scott, you said, If this IS the case, what benefits are we getting as developers for taking on extra headaches in making it W3C compliant (who by the way aren't an international elected body - more of a group that have taken liberty to makeup standards). Who would elect such a body? Web designers? Governments? Users? The UN? As it is, we have the major browser manufacturers on board, the guy who invented the web heading it up, and some of the clearest-thinking, most far-sighted people in the web community making contributions that aim to free the web from proprietory chains and dead-end hacks, with as elegant solutions as can be devised. What more could you want? Down with proprietory solutions, I say! -Hugh Todd * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: Future.....(was: Re: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs)
Sometimes it is good to have people with vision to lead people where they would not go themselves. and sometimes the world marches past 'cos they're too slow Lets hurry up and have CSS behavious added to the spec - it's a damn fine idea. the camel committee* has bandied this about for the last 4 years and (it seems) is still on the to do list. http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/WD-becss-19990804 That way it'll actually integrate HTML, CSS and javascript and give us TRUE dhtml. my Friday 2c worth barry.b * camel: a horse designed by committee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2004 10:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Future.(was: Re: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs) Well, to answer that i dare you to walk into any web-based enterprise that has a DHTML intranet, and say the following words: Get rid of IFRAMES, and use something else Wear some padding, as the fall from the window could be high. Scott Barnes I think this demonstrates why having the Web vote on what should be standards falls flat. Wallace Stegner wrote, I don't know what I like as much as I like what I know. Meaning, in this context, that people are likely to maintain what they know and are comfortable with rather than to move forward into concepts that force them to change. I work in a university and my guess if put to a vote we would have outlawed any sort of CSS-P and probably any CSS at all. These folks grew up on tables and font tags and are loathe to give them up. Sometimes it is good to have people with vision to lead people where they would not go themselves. Joe Huggins * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] fieldset is REQUIRED
kewl. thanx for the clarification cheers barry.b -Original Message- From: McCain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 July 2004 4:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] fieldset is REQUIRED Inputs and form elements MUST be inside a Block element like fieldset, div, p, ... for XHTML 1.0 Strict complience, but not necesarily and only inside fieldset. McCain -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Barry Beattie Enviado el: viernes, 02 de julio de 2004 2:39 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: RE: [WSG] fieldset is REQUIRED Mordechai, are you saying that, for XHTML1.1 complience, that a label and it's associated form element needs to be within a fieldset? if so, we've got a few changes to do around here ... D'oh! thanx barry.b -Original Message- From: Mordechai Peller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 July 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] fieldset is REQUIRED After getting: Error: element label not allowed here; possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element. I finally figured out that a fieldset is required for XHTML1.1. However, after after doing some checking I couldn't find anything at the W3C about it in anything which passes even for their version of plain English. Sure, in the DTD's, grammars, etc., I found it stated, but not in anything which doesn't remind me of some of college classes. ot type=contemplation rel=computer-hw It's amazing how little computers have changed in the last 25 years. Sure, they've become orders of magnitude more powerful and are therefor able to do so much more. But are they really different from the old TRS-80 Model I Level 2 which the guy at Radio Shack let me play with? /ot * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] xforms
hang on Sean, I'm confused. is it either: the XFORM transformation is on the server and that pushes out HTML/JS/CSS to the browser? or it just sends the XML and XSL for the browser to handle (if so, what browsers will support this - just Mozilla)? just trying to get a handle on how useful XForms will be, esp from a webstandards, supported platforms point of view. thanx barry.b -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 July 2004 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] xforms On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:57:08 +1000, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that the next version of ColdFusion will be using XForms as a version of CFFORM / Correct. According to what has been demo'd you will be able to auto-generate XForms from a simple form specification using cfform and the 'skinning' is done server side (by specifying an XSL file in cfform). If you're targetting an XForm-capable browser, I guess you could supply an empty XSL transform... * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] fieldset is REQUIRED
Mordechai, are you saying that, for XHTML1.1 complience, that a label and it's associated form element needs to be within a fieldset? if so, we've got a few changes to do around here ... D'oh! thanx barry.b -Original Message- From: Mordechai Peller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 July 2004 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] fieldset is REQUIRED After getting: Error: element label not allowed here; possible cause is an inline element containing a block-level element. I finally figured out that a fieldset is required for XHTML1.1. However, after after doing some checking I couldn't find anything at the W3C about it in anything which passes even for their version of plain English. Sure, in the DTD's, grammars, etc., I found it stated, but not in anything which doesn't remind me of some of college classes. ot type=contemplation rel=computer-hw It's amazing how little computers have changed in the last 25 years. Sure, they've become orders of magnitude more powerful and are therefor able to do so much more. But are they really different from the old TRS-80 Model I Level 2 which the guy at Radio Shack let me play with? /ot * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] xforms
You'll need to choose your favorite XForms implementation huh? are these just IDE's for building XForms? It seems that the next version of ColdFusion will be using XForms as a version of CFFORM / but to tie it back to standards, what versions of older browsers support XForms? thanx barry.b -Original Message- From: Tonico Strasser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 4:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] xforms Ted Drake wrote: Does anyone know where I can find some information on browser support for xforms and how to style them with css? I know the w3c has some information but my head starts spinning whenever I go to their pages. I found this site, but it doesn't mention support and styling. http://www.w3schools.com/xforms/xforms_intro.asp Hello, I've read that XForms should be style-able with CSS and XSL. You'll need to choose your favorite XForms implementation: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/#implementations I think the DENG (aka Mozquito) iplementation has support for subsets of CSS2 and CSS3. The DENG Project (scroll down) http://claus.packts.net/ Tonico -- Tonico Strasser ?:-) http://Tonico.FreeZope.org Contact_Tonico at Yahoo dot de Check out http://www.WebProducer.at * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] next Bris meeting: (was: Sydney meeting tonight)
next Bris meeting: I should remember from the inaugural one when the next is (but I've forgotten) can someone please remind me for my diary? thanx barry.b Barry Beattie CF Web Developer Alpha Business Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: +61 07 3216 0999 Unit 1, 31 Thompson Street Bowen Hills QLD 4006 www.alphabus.com.au Virus Disclaimer: Please note that this email may contain computer-generated file(s) as an attachment. Whereas we take every effort to protect our files from computer virus, we recommend that you check the file(s) with your own virus detection software prior to opening it. If you would prefer to receive a hardcopy of the file please email or phone. Alpha Business Systems does not accept liability for the consequences of any computer viruses that may be transmitted with this email. Confidentiality: This email and any attached files are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in error, please advise us by return email or phone and disregard the contents and immediately delete it and destroy any copies -Original Message- From: J Rodgers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 3:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Sydney meeting tonight On 6/10/04 11:43 AM, Russ Weakley - Maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonight 44 people attended our Sydney WSG meeting - a huge night (where lots of beer was consumed). Just wondering where the Canadians are in this group? Would be so bad to have an event or two? I think I could get more uni web folks involved in Ontario anyway. The count says: Canada 29 Jesse -- Jesse Rodgers Manager, Web Communications Communications Public Affairs - University of Waterloo [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 519.888.4567 ext. 3874 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
