Re: [WSG] FeedBack Form Spam
Human-only precautions such as a CAPTHA for form entry helps, as does some anti-spam features on your web server. However, my server gets hammered with thousands of spam a day... and I got so frustrated with that sort of thing that I changed my feedback form to a text field that saved the contents into a CSV file. Bots and other spam bounced harmlessly away. However, would you believe people HAND TYPED spam into the form? Who has that kind of time on their hands? Oh... yeah... spammers. not surprising at all ... I suspect that some of the bigger spammers are using sweatshop slave labour to sign up lots of yahoo/hotmail/gmail/etc email addresses to use to receive and process verification emails for bots that can actually sign up as users on websites. I see lots of bots trying to register on anything that looks at all like a user registration form and have to keep coming up with new tricks to keep them out. (eg bot trap fields, passing id's across forms, javascript tricks, heuristics, etc). I hate captchas and have so far avoided using them. (btw I've even seen spam posts advertising capcha services! - very sus ... ) IMPORTANT: - if a form causes email to be sent (like a site contact form) MAKE SURE that your script strips newlines from any fields that end up in the mail header. If newline chars are not stripped it can be very easy for a spammer to inject extra bcc headers and use it to send email spam to long lists of email addresses. (this is very common - I've seen lots of badly-written form-to-email scripts abused this way over the years and if asked to check on a website reported to be sending email spam it is one of the first things I look for!) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] FeedBack Form Spam
Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ink wired: i keep getting spam e-mails. snip how do i protect my self against this sort of thing. Human-only precautions such as a CAPTHA for form entry helps, as does some anti-spam features on your web server. However, my server gets hammered with thousands of spam a day... and I got so frustrated with that sort of thing that I changed my feedback form to a text field that saved the contents into a CSV file. Bots and other spam bounced harmlessly away. However, would you believe people HAND TYPED spam into the form? Who has that kind of time on their hands? Oh... yeah... spammers. Now, the only form of contact I accept is snail mail. Not many scammers will pay 42¢ to spam you... -- I made magic once. Now the sofa is gone. http://blog.dwacon.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] FeedBack Form Spam
Hi. on my site at http://startrekcafe.stevesdomain.net and i keep getting spam e-mails. and used the http://www.thesitecountry.com java and php script. now thought that had built in code, to stop scammers and spammers e-mailing me. how do i protect my self against this sort of thing. cheers Marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Feedback
Dear sir / madam I recently joined this mailing list and signed up for the daily digest however I'm finding the digest hard to skim through to see if there is anything of interest to me. It would be great if you had the subject summary list at the top of the email which shows each of the conversations. This would mean that we could easily skim read this list to see if there is anything of interest. An extra bonus would be if you could just click on the subject name and it takes you through to the thread in the website. Cheers Matthew CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Rail Plus immediately. - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Feedback - ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED
ADMIN _ THREAD CLOSED Hi Matthew, Happy to chat with you about mail list options, but this should be sent to the list admins, rather than to the list. All of these sort of comments, enquiries, suggestions should go to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Russ on 15/5/08 8:50 AM, Matthew Chambers at wrote: Dear sir / madam I recently joined this mailing list and signed up for the daily digest however I'm finding the digest hard to skim through to see if there is anything of interest to me. It would be great if you had the subject summary list at the top of the email which shows each of the conversations. This would mean that we could easily skim read this list to see if there is anything of interest. An extra bonus would be if you could just click on the subject name and it takes you through to the thread in the website. Cheers Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Feedback on ISO Standard Version of Access For All Metadata
Original Message Subject:reminder about new standard... Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:12:50 -0700 From: ozewai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozewai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mailing List Information, including unsubscription instructions are located at the end of this message) Time is running out for us with the ISO standard version of AccessForAll metadata. This is just a reminder that you could help by testing our forms and commenting - please --- See http://dublincore.org/accessibilitywiki/DiscussionOfFcd Other's comments are also available for you to peruse on that page. Liddy http://www.ozewai.org/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Feedback www.mcguireomaha.com
looks nice, on my dialup connection it loads a bit slow, not to to bad. Maybe the masthead jpeg could be compressed a bit more. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Feedback
I have been a fly on the wall for some time in this group and I was really hoping to get a bit of feedback on a site I am almost finished with. Copy will change and possibly some site design before I deliver the final version. What I am hoping for is a bit of a report card- what was done well and where did I fail miserably. (BTW one of the pages does not validate right now, the client just had us insert some new links that need to be reformatted) www.mcguireomaha.com Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions you can give as well as any positive feedback. I've just taken a bit of a beating from the client ;-) Joe ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Feedback
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
www.mcguireomaha.com
Only looking at home page.
Good points:
1: generally good-looking and well organized - graphically.
Weak points:
1a: not very user-friendly when font-resizing options are applied.
Breaking and overlapping may become a problem in all browsers.
1b: you've broken the normal font-resizing option in IE/win for parts of
the page. Makes it look funny and more broken than it is, as some parts
resize and some parts don't.
2: background not lining up in Opera. Set 'body {padding: 0;}' to solve
that.
3: This alt=Omaha Realtor Linda McGuire Omaha Realtor Lisa McGuire
Kelly doesn't really make sense, does it? Some other alt-attributes
that should either be left empty, or rewritten so they make more sense
when seen through a text-only or other alternative browser. Bullets
shouldn't have alt-text.
Georg
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Re: [WSG] Feedback
I won't do a whole report card, but here's three things that should be changed:
1. The navigation list:
* li* img src=images/bullet.gif alt=Omaha Home /* /li
You are doing this to put bullets between the list items. Don't do
this, here's the alternative:
#menu li {
padding-bottom:1em;
background: url(images/bullet.gif) bottom center no-repeat;
}
That will make the list half as long, take out all those ugly img
tags, and it will look the same.
2. The links on the find a home and sell your home pages are too
light. I can barely see them, and they don't stand out at all, which
is also detrimental to your clients marketing. The links should be
more obvious than the text, so making them darker, or a different
color, would be better.
3. The xhtml and css buttons on the right are pointless... nobody
looking for a home is going to care how the site was built, and the
buttons look tacky. Just keep the links on the bottom, those are fine,
and take the buttons out.
Otherwise, keep up the good work.
- C Montoya
rdpdesign.com ... liquid.rdpdesign.com ... montoya.rdpdesign.com
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RE: [WSG] Feedback
Just a quick note: On the Find a Home (omaha_homes_for_sale.htm) page, the Meet the Team link text turns into Bios (goes to the same page - not a big deal, but consistent navigation is important) Looks good -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: [WSG] Feedback I have been a fly on the wall for some time in this group and I was really hoping to get a bit of feedback on a site I am almost finished with. Copy will change and possibly some site design before I deliver the final version. What I am hoping for is a bit of a report card- what was done well and where did I fail miserably. (BTW one of the pages does not validate right now, the client just had us insert some new links that need to be reformatted) www.mcguireomaha.com Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions you can give as well as any positive feedback. I've just taken a bit of a beating from the client ;-) Joe ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Feedback
Thanks!
-Original Message-
From: Christian Montoya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 2:34 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Feedback
I won't do a whole report card, but here's three things that should be
changed:
1. The navigation list:
* li* img src=images/bullet.gif alt=Omaha Home /* /li
You are doing this to put bullets between the list items. Don't do
this, here's the alternative:
#menu li {
padding-bottom:1em;
background: url(images/bullet.gif) bottom center no-repeat;
}
That will make the list half as long, take out all those ugly img
tags, and it will look the same.
2. The links on the find a home and sell your home pages are too
light. I can barely see them, and they don't stand out at all, which
is also detrimental to your clients marketing. The links should be
more obvious than the text, so making them darker, or a different
color, would be better.
3. The xhtml and css buttons on the right are pointless... nobody
looking for a home is going to care how the site was built, and the
buttons look tacky. Just keep the links on the bottom, those are fine,
and take the buttons out.
Otherwise, keep up the good work.
- C Montoya
rdpdesign.com ... liquid.rdpdesign.com ... montoya.rdpdesign.com
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Re: [WSG] Feedback www.mcguireomaha.com
On 10/14/05 1:13 PM Collin Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: [WSG] Feedback I have been a fly on the wall for some time in this group and I was really hoping to get a bit of feedback on a site I am almost finished with. Copy will change and possibly some site design before I deliver the final version. What I am hoping for is a bit of a report card- what was done well and where did I fail miserably. (BTW one of the pages does not validate right now, the client just had us insert some new links that need to be reformatted) www.mcguireomaha.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Feedback www.mcguireomaha.com
First thing I would say is that it's too difficult to find how to FIND a home. First you have to see the small link on the right, then the page refreshes and looks virtually the same. One would expect to see a search form immediately, but instead I had to scroll down and hunt for a text link to a search page. Too much work. Francesco On 10/14/05, Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/14/05 1:13 PM Collin Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: [WSG] Feedback I have been a fly on the wall for some time in this group and I was really hoping to get a bit of feedback on a site I am almost finished with. Copy will change and possibly some site design before I deliver the final version. What I am hoping for is a bit of a report card- what was done well and where did I fail miserably. (BTW one of the pages does not validate right now, the client just had us insert some new links that need to be reformatted) www.mcguireomaha.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Francesco Sanfilippo Web Architect and Software Developer http://www.blackcoil.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 402-932-5695 home office 402-676-3011 mobile Professional web developer and Internet consultant with 10 years experience. Specializing in ASP.NET, C#, SQL Server, CSS/XHTML, and digital photography. Founder and developer of URL123.com - now serving 2 million clicks per month. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Feedback
Design crituque wise: Make it center rather than oddly positioned. make the grey text darker, remember people of the older generation are more likely to be reading it and thus may have eyes that are statring to fail. is that blue on red? thats really wrong.. stick with a light light pink or a white font. On 14 Oct 2005, at 19:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been a fly on the wall for some time in this group and I was really hoping to get a bit of feedback on a site I am almost finished with. Copy will change and possibly some site design before I deliver the final version. What I am hoping for is a bit of a report card- what was done well and where did I fail miserably. (BTW one of the pages does not validate right now, the client just had us insert some new links that need to be reformatted) www.mcguireomaha.com Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions you can give as well as any positive feedback. I've just taken a bit of a beating from the client ;-) Joe ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Feedback on a new website developed very quickly
Using IE 6.0 and resolution on Windows at 1024 X 768, I get a horizontal scroll bar on Help Overseas, Help in Australia, Overseas Aid, and Tsunami Information. Hope this helps. Mary Ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anura Samara Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 9:20 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Feedback on a new website developed very quickly I'd be really grateful for some feedback from you all on a new site I've had to develop very, very quickly. The website is TsunamiAssist - http://www.tsunamiassist.gov.au. It is meant to give an overall view of the Government's response to the tsunami disaster, with links to other sites with more information. I developed this site extremely quickly - basically overnight, with some extra time devoted to our people checking the content which was basically written by me too! I have only checked it out on IE5.5 and Firefox, the only two browsers on my laptop. The XHTML and CSS validates, and it seems to do OK in some accessibility checking tools I used. Because I had to work so fast, I didn't have any time to hunt out my normal resources - books, etc - and I know I failed at some things and can't for the life of me remember how to do them. They include: 1. How do you get IE to handle font sizes in tables properly? I have set the font-size in the BODY to 76% but of course IE renders the text in any subsequent TDs back up to 100%. I know this can be fixed but don't want to resort to a hack. 2. I have run into a problem with 100% width DIVs inside other DIVs. Depending on which way I code it, either IE or Firefox expands the containing DIV out to be wider than the screen when I put a 100% wide DIV inside the containing DIV. What exactly is the right way to specify widths of DIVs to get this to happen. Of course, this also rears its head when a 100% wide table is inserted in the containing DIV. Again, I could fix this with a hack but don't really want to. Of course, any other comments or suggestions about the site are more than welcome; of course, content is really not in my hands as others are now writing and approving it. I will be periodically updating the site during the weekend as the situation changes, so if you have any suggestions I will try to fix the site up along the way - and if you find a problem, a solution would be really handy too! Thanks for you help. If I don't respond quickly, it's just because I am taking some time to look away from a screen for a while. Anura ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Feedback on a new website developed very quickly
Ditto everything in the above response plus I think you did a great job in such a short time-frame! Its clean and readable and looks professional. Once you take the 100% width off the tables you should be good to go. Good job! Mani Sheriar Sheriar Designs | www.ManiSheriar.com 925|914.0741
[WSG] Feedback Needed!
Hello everybody! I'm working on redesign http://mera.com.ru/ now, so I'm looking for feedback. The new design model for the cover page is available at http://mera.com.ru/new/ Css can be found at http://mera.com.ru/new/style/style.css There is also the problem which I can't solve at this moment -- the right border on some links in the top menu disappears in Mozilla and Firefox at different browser window size. First I used border-right property but now I use background: url(images/some_dot.gif) top right repet-y but it also can't help me :( * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] feedback and question
Hi Everyone, I have been lurking on the list for a while and have really enjoyed it, this group seems very helpful and friendly. I found this list through the css-f one. I am starting to get my act together in terms of html standards, css and accessibility-lots to learn! I thought I would dive in to ask about a site I am working on right now... -I just did a site redesign and wanted to get feedback. This site was tough as it had to be fully bilingual on each page and the fourth biggest group of users use Netscape 3!!! How did I get so lucky? http://www.c-l-c.ca/mainpage.html Does the navigation work okay on the left side nav? Do you see any bugs? Do you see anything problematic with the css? Any suggestions, comments? -In N6 on Win ME the left side nav is only white text on blue with no formatting. When I go to mouseover the links, all I get is a white bar over the link area-so you can't see it. Anyone have any idea why? I found it weird, as I used similar code on another site and it worked over in N6. Any help/feedback would be much appreciated, Cheers Lisa * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] feedback and question
The Snider's Web wrote: -I just did a site redesign and wanted to get feedback. This site was tough as it had to be fully bilingual on each page and the fourth biggest group of users use Netscape 3!!! How did I get so lucky? http://www.c-l-c.ca/mainpage.html It's nice to see a page that does so well in N3. I prefer N3 on this page, since it doesn't force me to hassle with the zoom menu to find a % that gets me 100% of my preference for main content. -- Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others... 1 Peter 4:10 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Feedback on site :: color red
Cheryl Perkins wrote: What can I say? The surgeon who hired me insisted on red. I think he'd have liked it entirely in red. I actually offered a couple different colour schemes in blues and greens, which happen to be my favourite colours, but there was no interest in them at all. I know it's difficult with clients, but you're building a site for the users, not a single person. It's very nice that your client prefers red (probably because he's up to his arms in that colour all day), but what message is it sending out to the users? The thing to do is go back to your original spec and look at the goals you're client set for the job. Then you need to discuss the colour scheme in terms of those goals and not his personal preference. Golden rule. Ban subjectivity from the decision making process. I'm going to try out some of the changes in the shades of red suggested by other posters, though, Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Feedback on site :: color red
Considering the site is about surgery, I'd steer clear of red altogether! Really bad choice there, unless you are deliberately trying to unnerve people and put them off. How about a soothing blue or a clinical green? What can I say? The surgeon who hired me insisted on red. I think he'd have liked it entirely in red. I actually offered a couple different colour schemes in blues and greens, which happen to be my favourite colours, but there was no interest in them at all. I'm going to try out some of the changes in the shades of red suggested by other posters, though, Cheryl * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Feedback on site :: color red
Considering the site is about surgery, I'd steer clear of red altogether! Really bad choice there, unless you are deliberately trying to unnerve people and put them off. How about a soothing blue or a clinical green? Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Feedback on site :: color red
Or gang-green? people and put them off. How about a soothing blue or a clinical green? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Feedback on site
I was asked to create and maintain a website. I wanted to try out CSS, although I eventually resorted to tables for layout. I'm a beginner at this sort of thing, learning on my own. Anyway, the site's been up for a while, and I'm thinking that it's time to make improvements. It's at http://www.med.mun.ca/surgery/ The colour scheme has to stay. The boss says if it's for surgeons, it should be red. I'm wondering if it's worth trying to get away from the tables, and reading here about lists of links, and wondering if that might be an improvement to try. Any feedback is welcome. And this is something that is probably obvious but is driving me crazy. ENT wanted something online, so I put a kind of draft together to give them an idea of the sort of content and organization they might think about. But the text in text is centred, and I think it should be left-aligned. Why? http://www.med.mun.ca/surgery/ENT/ent_home.htm Thanks, Cheryl * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Feedback on site :: color red
Color -- Try Michael Kear's Colourschemer mentioned yesterday for some deeper reds. http://afpwebworks.com/colourschemer/ colour 1 should be 99 colour 2 should be 00 Keep steps at 5 or extend for more gradient like results. can change color 2 to ff for lighter shading (like the background colors on links, etc.) The 99 color came from http://www.presentations.com -- they should know about color psychology. My opinion about alignment -- Left alignment looks much more professional and with-it -- centering went out with the late 90s! Many ways to fill the left side if contact info is not enough to give the page balance (color block/gridlines, etc.) Donna * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Feedback on site
Cheryl Perkins wrote: I was asked to create and maintain a website. I wanted to try out CSS, although I eventually resorted to tables for layout. I'm a beginner at this sort of thing, learning on my own. Anyway, the site's been up for a while, and I'm thinking that it's time to make improvements. It's at http://www.med.mun.ca/surgery/ You should get rid of the width: 100%; on the body element. In conjunction with the margin-left: 5%; it produces horizontal scroll bars on both IE6 and Firefox 0.8. 100% width to the body element is the width of the viewport. In both the W3C and the Microsoft box model margins don't count towards the width. So when you also stick margins in with a 100% width, you are requesting that the browser display more than a viewport worth horizontally, thereby producing a scroll bar. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
