Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain But Ralph has never expected to win, so whether he can get anything done is not a deal-breaking matter. He's campaigning to bring attention to issues that he thinks are too important to ignore. He did say in direct response to the question a couple days ago whether he would be effective in office, however hypothetically, that he would be, claiming he's been in D.C. for forty years and knows how to generate support for an issue. I do not believe Frank would be a Nader man, incidentally. Mark FZ once said, If you can't work within the system for change, you're just playing with yourself until the next new face comes along. Our boy Ralph has no ties within a system he's been fucking with for the last 40 years. Does that comment bring this on topic? SOFA For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Many Thanks!
Any chance of a copy sometime ...? DANNYCF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all who0 have turned me on to all the shows and music since I joined this wonderful group! Keep em comming ANY and I'll pass em on! Thanks to Colsten for the free mp3's.Always wanted to hear the Pauley Pav.1971 show!Carry on and have a great weekend folks!ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Amen, brother, amen! Workers of the world unite and listen to Frank Zappa!! (and register to vote - even if there is no one to vote for in your zone of activities). I read yesterday that the Republican beast-machine in Michiganis engaged in a "voter suppression" operation, seeing how it is a 'swing' state. Obviously, by "suppresion" they mean preventing - by all sorts of foul and diabolical means - Blacks, Hispanics, lefties, Democrats, etc from voting at all. Maybe time to take to the lifeboats or escape pod, with your i-Pod of Zappa music? I mean,talking about life imitating art - has anybody read Philip Roth's The plot against Americaand Philip K Dick's The man in the high castle ...? Eyes staring into the abyss, DannyMark Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noam Chomsky: "What the public wants is called politically unrealistic.Translated into English that means Power and Privilege are opposed to it."Mark I'll admit I am a Nader supporter. I'd like to see America in the hands, or at least with a figurehead that is a consumer advocate. I like to think he'd continue to expose political and commercial corruption if elected, and I'd love to see Boosh impeached. Problem is Nader/Camejo's platform seems too idealistic to most. The solution is there he'd just need to get the rest on board, which sadly would probably prove fruitless. I mean superficially, I certainly don't make 50 grand a year and I'd appreciate a tax break. I'm on board with nearly, if not all Nader has to say. I really wish your statement about voting for Nader wasn't true, but it probably is. "Revolutionaries always spoil corrupt systems" - indeed. -YHFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] REOFFER - Buffalo speed corrected + mystery disc
I'll be interested in the 1980 mystery bonus disc sometime ... Dannyabxer3p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all -- The Buffalo 74 concert, plus second bonus mystery disc, is now mine to offer you,with heartfelt thanksto Mike A. This is all FLAC soundboard, so first to shoot me your address offlist, and promises to reoffer, will get this in the mail very soon. This is one of the hotter packages going around at the moment, giving us twolineups in two concerts. I KNOW someone wants this. group thanks too, Joseph heres the setlist/info for buffalo, as i recieved itFrank ZappaMemorial Auditorium, Buffalo, N.Y.November, 15, 19741st gen SBD tapeSoundforgeEACCDREACFLAC SoundforgePitchcorrectionFlacPart of a batch of tapes obtained from former Zappa road manager Dick Barber.F Zappa - Gtr,vclsN M Brock - Sax,flute,vclsG Duke - Kbds,vclsR Underwood - PercussionC Thompson - DrumsT Fowler - BassF Zappa - Gtr,vclsN M Brock - Sax,flute,vclsG Duke - Kbds,vclsR Underwood - PercussionC Thompson - DrumsT Fowler - Bass Tracklist:tush tush tush (a token of my extreme)stinkfootrdnzlvillage of the sunechidna's 'arf (of you)don't you ever wash that thing?penguin in bondaget'mershi duweendog breath variationsuncle meatbuilding a girlwhen breaking across 2 discs, there is a break in the music heredon't eat the yellow snownanook rubs itst. alphonso's pancake breakfastfather o'blivionTush Tush outrocamarillo brillomore trouble every day and the mystery disc? it is the early set of a 2 show nightcirca 1980.thats all i'm saying, except that heres the lineage:SB?CDR (EAC Secure mode)wav (CEP, split corrected)flac (Frontendwith SBE correction)***except the last 2 tracks, which is SB?cassettewav (CEP, tracksplitted)flac (Frontend with SBE correction)For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Wash DC petit wazoo re-offer.
I have 2 copies ready to go. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Well I don't know all the details yet but the Democratic party is famous for committing voter fraud the old fashioned way. By that I mean registering whole cemeteries full of people to vote and so on. It was reported yesterday that one county had reached 104% voter registration with the vast majority of the newly registered being Democrats. (For anyone not familiar with American voter percentages that's a damn high percentage) My point is that now days when something like this is detected the guilty ones will usually cry voter suppression. I'm not saying the Repub's are innocent ether. I just read this article explaining a dirty trick one or more of them used that could be considered suppression of deadbeatvoting. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=816e=7u=/ap/20041029/ap_on_el_pr/voter_scam The whole two party system is corrupt and needs an overhaul in my opinion. Are any of you guy's aware of the Libertarian party? They've been working for years to try to get people into the congress and even more local positions. The idea being that by the time they might actually get a presidential candidate elected he will have some support to get things done. They have of course been fighting a very entrenched two party system the whole way with only minimal success. http://www.lp.org/ They are to the Republicans what Nader is to the Democrats. They are saying their guy (Badnerik) will make the difference in New Mexico giving the win to Kerry. I find most of their positions easier to endorse than ether of the two big parties. To me they take what's best from both and leave out what's wrong with both. Like Nader they don't have a hope in hell in the presidential election of course. Jim L - Original Message - From: Danny ODare To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again -- snip --- I read yesterday that the Republican beast-machine in Michiganis engaged in a "voter suppression" operation, seeing how it is a 'swing' state. Obviously, by "suppresion" they mean preventing - by all sorts of foul and diabolical means - Blacks, Hispanics, lefties, Democrats, etc from voting at all. Maybe time to take to the lifeboats or escape pod, with your i-Pod of Zappa music? I mean,talking about life imitating art - has anybody read Philip Roth's The plot against Americaand Philip K Dick's The man in the high castle ...? Eyes staring into the abyss, DannyMark Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noam Chomsky: "What the public wants is called politically unrealistic.Translated into English that means Power and Privilege are opposed to it."Mark I'll admit I am a Nader supporter. I'd like to see America in the hands, or at least with a figurehead that is a consumer advocate. I like to think he'd continue to expose political and commercial corruption if elected, and I'd love to see Boosh impeached. Problem is Nader/Camejo's platform seems too idealistic to most. The solution is there he'd just need to get the rest on board, which sadly would probably prove fruitless. I mean superficially, I certainly don't make 50 grand a year and I'd appreciate a tax break. I'm on board with nearly, if not all Nader has to say. I really wish your statement about voting for Nader wasn't true, but it probably is. "Revolutionaries always spoil corrupt systems" - indeed. -YHFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain
YES. Noam Chomsky: "What the public wants is called politically unrealistic.Translated into English that means Power and Privilege are opposed to it."Mark For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Life in America has been frighteningly reminiscent of MANY PKD novel's for sometime. I just read "The Simulacra" not too long ago and that was also a scary parallel of life in this country. Same with "Radio Free Albemuth". Darrell "Philip K Dick's The man in the high castle ...?" For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Libertarian is the only way I've ever voted. But of course i'm always hassled for "wasting my vote". Considering all of the shenanigans in the last and now current "election" that seems pretty meaningless. Darrell Are any of you guy's aware of the Libertarian party? They've been working for years to try to get people into the congress and even more local positions. The idea being that by the time they might actually get a presidential candidate elected he will have some support to get things done. They have of course been fighting a very entrenched two party system the whole way with only minimal success. http://www.lp.org/ They are to the Republicans what Nader is to the Democrats. They are saying their guy (Badnerik) will make the difference in New Mexico giving the win to Kerry. I find most of their positions easier to endorse than ether of the two big parties. To me they take what's best from both and leave out what's wrong with both. Like Nader they don't have a hope in hell in the presidential election of course. Jim L For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all overagain
Ooo, lots of politics. Frank would be proud. It's important to vote - 2000 proved that. Your vote does count (when it's counted, that is). Take a look at the DVD Unprecedented about the 2000 election, and the crooked on-goings in Florida. If you weren't convinced the Bushes were criminals before you watch it, you will be afterward. Impeach Bush NOW! I'm for Nader, but he's not on the ballot in Texas, so I can't vote for him. And I wouldn't anyway, since I think it would just dilute the Kerry (AKA anti-Bush) vote. It's most important to get rid of Bush NOW, reclaim our international friendships, and take a different approach in Iraq. But as for the way the country works, through Congress and the Supreme Court, I don't know how much either major party will allow to change, because it fucks with their power base too much. Check out the definition of the term fascist and see if it doesn't fit our government today. This is from dictionary.com: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. Sound familiar? And check out Thom Hartmann, who I first heard of on the Unprecedented DVD extras. http://www.thomhartmann.com/ Here's a quote from one of his articles, The Ghost of Vice President Wallace Warns: 'It Can Happen Here.' http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0719-15.htm Wallace was Roosevelt's Vice President from 1941-45. The really dangerous American fascists, Wallace wrote, are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power. So, you think it can't happen here? smt Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] OT: Walking Eagle - too funny!
On a recent campaign trip through Wisconsin President Bush visitedthe City of Green Bay. He met with the elders of the Oneida Nation. Hesaid he had a plan to improve the income of every Native American by$40,000.00 a year. Details of the plan were not presented despitefrequent requests to do so. President Bush also informed the elders that,during his career, he supported every Native American issue introduced.President Bust was adopted as a member of the Oneida Nation and given thename Walking Eagle.After the President left, one of the elders was asked the significance ofthe name Walking Eagle.His response---" Bird so full of shit it can't fly " For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] FloEddie vine closed
Look for Larry L to re-offer :o) Carsten Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] FloEddie vine - are you interested
Hey Carston! I'm interested (love Flo Eddie)... I will mail you off-list with my addy. Oooops! Not quick enough... Larry? Warm regards, SOFA HiI have two FloEddie shows - "11/19/76 Cobo Hall, Detroit, Open ForZappa" and "79-07-16" downloaded from easytree.If anyone is interested, I'll start a vine. sned me an e-mail off-list. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Yep! I can relate to that. I recentlyread again (after about a 15 year absence!!), "The Simulacra" and I was quite astonished/knocked-back by its insights/prescience. And, yes, "Radio Free Albemouth" is a great novel, especialy as- IF I recall correctly - PKD 'assimilates' his experince of being monitored/investigated by the 'dark forces' of the FBI/CIA. PKD, in the lates 1960s, attended a few meetings of the Communist Party of the United States of America, which was enjoying a mini-renaissance under the 'fire' of people likeAngela Davies (especally in California, PKD's base). He eventually 'drifted' away, but was classified as aCommunist Party sympathiser/'fellow-traveller, and 'monitored' day and night' by YOU-KNOW-WHO. At one stage, it was fairly clear that PKD's phone was being TAPPED by the FBI/CIA, butalmost everybody - understandably in some ways, given his drugs-intake - dismissed him for being 'paranoid'. We now know,of course, and ithas been since'officially' confessed, that his phone WAS tapped by the FBI/CIA,andhis apartmentWASbroken into, and burgled, by FBI/CIA shits looking for 'subversive/communist' material. Meanwhile, back in Florida ... DANNY"mr. and mrs. skull" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life in America has been frighteningly reminiscent of MANY PKD novel's for sometime. I just read "The Simulacra" not too long ago and that was also a scary parallel of life in this country. Same with "Radio Free Albemuth". Darrell "Philip K Dick's The man in the high castle ...?" For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] OT: Walking Eagle - too funny!
Er, can you verify this story? While I utterly smpathise with the sentiments behind this fable, the only to defeat the Bushites/Neo-Cons/Religious Right is with with the 'truth' - ie, rational, empirical, scientific, based obervations and extrapolationns. Cheers, DANNYShaun Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a recent campaign trip through Wisconsin President Bush visitedthe City of Green Bay. He met with the elders of the Oneida Nation. Hesaid he had a plan to improve the income of every Native American by$40,000.00 a year. Details of the plan were not presented despitefrequent requests to do so. President Bush also informed the elders that,during his career, he supported every Native American issue introduced.President Bust was adopted as a member of the Oneida Nation and given thename Walking Eagle.After the President left, one of the elders was asked the significance ofthe name Walking Eagle.His response---" Bird so full of shit it can't fly " For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OFF TOPIC
Danny, Have you seen the PKD documentary? It's fairly redundant if you've read the biography "Divine Invasions" but the interviews with those who knew him were worth seeing. Seems to be the case that more often than not, it's the artists who reflect back accurately what a given culture or society is doing, and where it's at in its development. Frank wrote about a secret underground base in "Thingfish" and lo and behold later it was revealed that it wasn't just a product of his imagination. Not to mention he saw compact discs and music downloading twenty years before this arrived. Darrell Yep! I can relate to that. I recentlyread again (after about a 15 year absence!!), "The Simulacra" and I was quite astonished/knocked-back by its insights/prescience. And, yes, "Radio Free Albemouth" is a great novel, especialy as- IF I recall correctly - PKD 'assimilates' his experince of being monitored/investigated by the 'dark forces' of the FBI/CIA. PKD, in the lates 1960s, attended a few meetings of the Communist Party of the United States of America, which was enjoying a mini-renaissance under the 'fire' of people likeAngela Davies (especally in California, PKD's base). He eventually 'drifted' away, but was classified as aCommunist Party sympathiser/'fellow-traveller, and 'monitored' day and night' by YOU-KNOW-WHO. At one stage, it was fairly clear that PKD's phone was being TAPPED by the FBI/CIA, butalmost everybody - understandably in some ways, given his drugs-intake - dismissed him for being 'paranoid'. We now know,of course, and ithas been since'officially' confessed, that his phone WAS tapped by the FBI/CIA,andhis apartmentWASbroken into, and burgled, by FBI/CIA shits looking for 'subversive/communist' material. Meanwhile, back in Florida ... DANNY For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Wash DC petit wazoo re-offer.
I'd like that one! I live next to DC! Thanks, Rick Norris 3009 Gazebo Court Silver Spring, MD 20904 USA - Original Message - From: Marc Skobac To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:13 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Wash DC petit wazoo re-offer. I have 2 copies ready to go. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OFF TOPIC
http://www.ericblumrich.com/faith.html :-(( "mr. and mrs. skull" wrote: Danny,Have you seen the PKD documentary? It's fairly redundant if you've read the biography "Divine Invasions" but the interviews with those who knew him were worth seeing.Seems to be the case that more often than not, it's the artists who reflect back accurately what a given culture or society is doing, and where it's at in its development.Frank wrote about a secret underground base in "Thingfish" and lo and behold later it was revealed that it wasn't just a product of his imagination. Not to mention he saw compact discs and music downloading twenty years before this arrived.Darrell Yep! I can relate to that. I recently read again (after about a 15 year absence!!), "The Simulacra" and I was quite astonished/knocked-back by its insights/prescience. And, yes, "Radio Free Albemouth" is a great novel, especialy as - IF I recall correctly - PKD 'assimilates' his experince of being monitored/investigated by the 'dark forces' of the FBI/CIA. PKD, in the lates 1960s, attended a few meetings of the Communist Party of the United States of America, which was enjoying a mini-renaissance under the 'fire' of people like Angela Davies (especally in California, PKD's base). He eventually 'drifted' away, but was classified as a Communist Party sympathiser/'fellow-traveller, and 'monitored' day and night' by YOU-KNOW-WHO. At one stage, it was fairly clear that PKD's phone was being TAPPED by the FBI/CIA, but almost everybody - understandably in some ways, given his drugs-intake - dismissed him for being 'paranoid'. We now know, of course, and it has been since 'officially' confessed, that his phone WAS tapped by the FBI/CIA, and his apartment WAS broken into, and burgled, by FBI/CIA shits looking for 'subversive/communist' material.Meanwhile, back in Florida ...DANNY For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. inline: /Disque%20Dur/%83l%8Ements%20temporaires/nsmail2.gifinline: /Disque%20Dur/%83l%8Ements%20temporaires/nsmail3.gif
[Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on the election?
I've been hearing about places that actually take bets on the outcome of the US presidential election. So I got to thinking about how I would bet if cold hard cash was on the line. What do you guy's think? Regardless of who you want to win or what you think would be best for the world, what if you had a really large amount of cash riding on the outcome? Who would you put your money on to win? Jim L For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on the election?
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on the election? Multinational corporations. Mark I've been hearing about places that actually take bets on the outcome of the US presidential election. So I got to thinking about how I would bet if cold hard cash was on the line. What do you guy's think? Regardless of who you want to win or what you think would be best for the world, what if you had a really large amount of cash riding on the outcome? Who would you put your money on to win? Jim L mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on theelection?
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on the election? Is there any wonder why I love this guy? Well said, Bro... SOFA PS Hey Mark, any new sketches in the works? Multinational corporations.MarkWho would you put your money on to win?Jim L For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on theelection?
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on theelection? LOL! Glad you liked that, SOFA. No Zappa related stuff, but some commissioned portraits. Did a couple graphite drawings of Malcolm X a while back. I need to get back into it! I've always wanted to do an FZ shirt that was a more serious portrait but I fear the ZFT Litigation Squad. Maybe a scratchboard drawing. That stuff is a blast! Still surprised no issue has been taken with the caricature shirts, frankly. (Pun intended.) Mark Is there any wonder why I love this guy? Well said, Bro... SOFA PS Hey Mark, any new sketches in the works? Multinational corporations. Mark Who would you put your money on to win? Jim L For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.