RE: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video
Holy cow when was the Dub Room released? This will affect TTNS as well as that DVD I made and vined back in June. http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/message/9457 Sorry but all I remember hearing was that TDRS might be released officially on DVD. I must have missed it actually happening. I see its only $11 at Amazon already. Thats a good buy. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:42 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video Good call, Scott... I do not have the new DRS release, but if your information is correct, then this vine needs to stop. Sorry, Kids, but we can't abide the open dissemination of newly released, or readily available, commercial endeavors by the ZFT. It just wouldn't be right, ya know? I would like someone to confirm the info; there must be one member out there with the release? Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: Scott Burnett To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video I've been informed that the YAWYI video is on the recently released DVD of the Dub Room Special (as a bonus feature I would guess). I haven't actually confirmed this. If this is true, does this make this sort of vine illegal. I'd be willing to do the vine only if there is a consensus that it's ok. Your opinions are appreciated. Scott --- Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ChrisF (USA)Mike Wilcox - USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard moore uk Looks like Mike Wilcox fell off to, so i put him back on. - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video What the heck...I'll jump on board this one as well. Thanks Chris Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ChrisF (USA) neil_hawkins2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to get on this one as well, thanks for offering Scott Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Neil --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, abxer3p [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Scott, I would love to see this video again. If you don't have my address, please contact me offlist. thanks, Joseph --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Scott Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Hey all, I have this video thanks to VH1's promotion to help Katrina victims. I was wondering if there is any interest in this? I can put it on DVD and vine it out or if there are only a few interested I could just send out freebies. Let me know. Scott Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Music is The Best! Frank Zappa -- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group Zappa-List on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/yXLolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride
[Zappa-List] The Dub Room Release
Members, Before we stop it we should make an effort to find out if this is exactly the same as the official release. Sometimes, they aren't the same ! Mike --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Jim L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy cow when was the Dub Room released? This will affect TTNS as well as that DVD I made and vined back in June. http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/message/9457 Sorry but all I remember hearing was that TDRS might be released officially on DVD. I must have missed it actually happening. I see it's only $11 at Amazon already. That's a good buy. Jim L _ From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:42 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video Good call, Scott... I do not have the new DRS release, but if your information is correct, then this vine needs to stop. Sorry, Kids, but we can't abide the open dissemination of newly released, or readily available, commercial endeavors by the ZFT. It just wouldn't be right, ya know? I would like someone to confirm the info; there must be one member out there with the release? Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: Scott mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Burnett To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video I've been informed that the YAWYI video is on the recently released DVD of the Dub Room Special (as a bonus feature I would guess). I haven't actually confirmed this. If this is true, does this make this sort of vine illegal. I'd be willing to do the vine only if there is a consensus that it's ok. Your opinions are appreciated. Scott --- Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) lusi_tanio@ ChrisF (USA)Mike Wilcox - USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard moore uk Looks like Mike Wilcox fell off to, so i put him back on. - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video What the heck...I'll jump on board this one as well. Thanks Chris Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) lusi_tanio@ ChrisF (USA) neil_hawkins2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to get on this one as well, thanks for offering Scott Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Neil --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, abxer3p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I would love to see this video again. If you don't have my address, please contact me offlist. thanks, Joseph --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Scott Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I have this video thanks to VH1's promotion to help Katrina victims. I was wondering if there is any interest in this? I can put it on DVD and vine it out or if there are only a few interested I could just send out freebies. Let me know. Scott --- - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Music is The Best! Frank Zappa --- - -- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron --- - -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group Zappa-List on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- - -- __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group Zappa-List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List on the
RE: [Zappa-List] The Dub Room Release
What do you mean by exactly? They're surely from the same source - the only difference could be in the quality, that in TDRS is perfect. Here you can find some more infos: http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/videography/Halloween81.html Anyway, The Dub Room Special contains only 5 songs of Palladium: Nig Biz (L) also present in: MTV Special Cocaine Decisions (L) also present in: MTV Special Stevie's Spanking (L) also present in: MTV Special, TTNS Flakes (E) also present in: YAWYI, TTNS Easy Meat (L)also present in: MTV Special, TTNS They're not included in the DVD as bonus tracks - They were also part of the original VHS sold only by mail order through Barfko. The bonus content is: A short Valley Girl documentary featuring Frank, Moon, Dweezil, Ahmet and Gail. The Baby Snakes trailer (LOL!) A discography An ad for the Dub Room Special soundtrack CD (ROTFL!!) All the best mm -Original Message- From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mikenyc11764us2001 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:43 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zappa-List] The Dub Room Release Members, Before we stop it we should make an effort to find out if this is exactly the same as the official release. Sometimes, they aren't the same ! Mike --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Jim L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy cow when was the Dub Room released? This will affect TTNS as well as that DVD I made and vined back in June. http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/message/9457 Sorry but all I remember hearing was that TDRS might be released officially on DVD. I must have missed it actually happening. I see it's only $11 at Amazon already. That's a good buy. Jim L _ From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:42 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video Good call, Scott... I do not have the new DRS release, but if your information is correct, then this vine needs to stop. Sorry, Kids, but we can't abide the open dissemination of newly released, or readily available, commercial endeavors by the ZFT. It just wouldn't be right, ya know? I would like someone to confirm the info; there must be one member out there with the release? Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: Scott mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Burnett To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video I've been informed that the YAWYI video is on the recently released DVD of the Dub Room Special (as a bonus feature I would guess). I haven't actually confirmed this. If this is true, does this make this sort of vine illegal. I'd be willing to do the vine only if there is a consensus that it's ok. Your opinions are appreciated. Scott --- Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) lusi_tanio@ ChrisF (USA)Mike Wilcox - USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard moore uk Looks like Mike Wilcox fell off to, so i put him back on. - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video What the heck...I'll jump on board this one as well. Thanks Chris Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) lusi_tanio@ ChrisF (USA) neil_hawkins2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to get on this one as well, thanks for offering Scott Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Neil --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, abxer3p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I would love to see this video again. If you don't have my address, please contact me offlist. thanks, Joseph --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Scott Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I have this video thanks to VH1's promotion to help Katrina victims. I was wondering if there is any interest in this? I can put it on DVD and vine it out or if there are only a few interested I could just send out freebies. Let me know. Scott --- - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Music is The Best! Frank Zappa --- - -- Yahoo! FareChase - Search
RE: [Zappa-List] The Dub Room Release
Just to clarify, the video I'm talking about is the MTV style music video of YAWYI. From what marcomat wrote, it doesn't sound like the video is on TDRS DVD. Here's what I'll do, I'll purchase the DVD and find out for sure myself. I'll order it from amazon so it should be here next week. I'll give a full report then. Scott --- marcomat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by exactly? They're surely from the same source - the only difference could be in the quality, that in TDRS is perfect. Here you can find some more infos: http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/videography/Halloween81.html Anyway, The Dub Room Special contains only 5 songs of Palladium: Nig Biz (L) also present in: MTV Special Cocaine Decisions (L) also present in: MTV Special Stevie's Spanking (L) also present in: MTV Special, TTNS Flakes (E) also present in: YAWYI, TTNS Easy Meat (L)also present in: MTV Special, TTNS They're not included in the DVD as bonus tracks - They were also part of the original VHS sold only by mail order through Barfko. The bonus content is: A short Valley Girl documentary featuring Frank, Moon, Dweezil, Ahmet and Gail. The Baby Snakes trailer (LOL!) A discography An ad for the Dub Room Special soundtrack CD (ROTFL!!) All the best mm -Original Message- From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mikenyc11764us2001 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:43 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zappa-List] The Dub Room Release Members, Before we stop it we should make an effort to find out if this is exactly the same as the official release. Sometimes, they aren't the same ! Mike --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Jim L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy cow when was the Dub Room released? This will affect TTNS as well as that DVD I made and vined back in June. http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/message/9457 Sorry but all I remember hearing was that TDRS might be released officially on DVD. I must have missed it actually happening. I see it's only $11 at Amazon already. That's a good buy. Jim L _ From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:42 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video Good call, Scott... I do not have the new DRS release, but if your information is correct, then this vine needs to stop. Sorry, Kids, but we can't abide the open dissemination of newly released, or readily available, commercial endeavors by the ZFT. It just wouldn't be right, ya know? I would like someone to confirm the info; there must be one member out there with the release? Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: Scott mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Burnett To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video I've been informed that the YAWYI video is on the recently released DVD of the Dub Room Special (as a bonus feature I would guess). I haven't actually confirmed this. If this is true, does this make this sort of vine illegal. I'd be willing to do the vine only if there is a consensus that it's ok. Your opinions are appreciated. Scott --- Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) lusi_tanio@ ChrisF (USA)Mike Wilcox - USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard moore uk Looks like Mike Wilcox fell off to, so i put him back on. - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video What the heck...I'll jump on board this one as well. Thanks Chris Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) lusi_tanio@ ChrisF (USA) neil_hawkins2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to get on this one as well, thanks for offering Scott Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Neil --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, abxer3p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I would love to see this video again. If you don't have my address, please contact me offlist. thanks, Joseph --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Scott Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I have this video thanks to VH1's promotion to help Katrina victims. I was wondering if there is any interest in this? I can put
Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Tour by Zappa Boys as a tribute to FZ
some of the folk here... do not feel that Flo Eddie were god's gift to the MOI... Oh, but they were! rh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/yXLolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] VO: YAWYI MTV Music Video NTSC DVD
OK, now that we have resolved the issue of it being an official release (it's not), I'll make this an official vine offering. This is for the YAWYI MTV style video, the one with the fake Ronald Reagan in the electric chair on an NTSC DVD. Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) lusi_tanio@ ChrisF (USA) Mike Wilcox - USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard moore uk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/yXLolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] VO: YAWYI MTV Music Video NTSC DVD
In a message dated 11/11/05 4:02:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, now that we have resolved the issue of it being an official release (it's not), I'll make this an official vine offering. To further clarify (not that anyone asked) it was contained on an official release, Video From Hell,but that item is unsurprisingly long out of print and thus is not currently officially available from Barfko-Swill, etc. This is for the YAWYI MTV style video, the one with the fake Ronald Reagan in the electric chair on an NTSC DVD.Scott Joseph (US?) Neil (UK) Luis(AR) lusi_tanio@ ChrisF (USA) Mike Wilcox - USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] richard moore uk For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Re: YAWYI Music Video
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Jim L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry but all I remember hearing was that TDRS might be released officially on DVD. I must have missed it actually happening. I see it's only $11 at Amazon already. That's a good buy. I've seen it in stores here in LA and it's the real deal. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/yXLolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] Re: VO: YAWYI MTV Music Video NTSC DVD
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, Scott Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, now that we have resolved the issue of it being an official release (it's not), I'll make this an official vine offering. This is for the YAWYI MTV style video, the one with the fake Ronald Reagan in the electric chair on an NTSC DVD. Wouldn't it be more fun to just share the entire Video From Hell on DVD? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/yXLolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Zappa-List] YAWYI resolved, the question is...
Yes the TTNS most defiantly has several tracks that also appear on The Dub Room Special. I did the original VHS rip that has been on Dimeadozen/EZT and Zappateers as well as being vine'd here more than once. In addition to that I started I vine of the Room 101 bootleg of the KCET concert that makes up the remainder of the live footage in Dub Room. Then there was the Steve Allen and much more vine. That one contains the entire Dub Room Special. Also there are some VCD versions of TTNS going around. All of these have footage in common with Dub Room but probably less than 30% at the most. I would propose that any vines that contain common footage with the Dub Room should be officially discontinued on this list. Some newer members on this list may not be aware that as well as appearing here, posts to this list also appear on a publicly accessible web page somewhere that I became aware of about a year ago. I guess they still do. Certainly serious collectors are going to want these full concerts for their collections though as The Dub Room only has a few selections from each show. I guess what I'm trying to say is that any trading or vining concerning these shows probably should be done off list if at all. I think all these vines were/are still active. Also I would encourage everyone to purchase the official Dub Room. Even though I have a couple of different high quality bootleg versions I'll be placing my order this weekend. It's a steal at just over ten bucks. Jim L -Original Message- From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of forbin_99 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:28 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zappa-List] YAWYI resolved, the question is... YAWYI controversy which I created has been resolved, now the question is... What do we do about TTNS DVD? Since parts of that ARE in DRS. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/yXLolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] SOFA Re: Flo and Eddie tour with the Zappa Boys next year
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry; I should have been more specific... (It's all in the FAQ, but...) Apology not accepted. Not everyone is as competitive with these yahoo groups as you are. You know some people see the goal of promoting Frank Zappa and co. to the world as being a universal thing. Only egotistical high handed self important snobs would worry about other yahoo groups devoted to the same exact cause. ***Hmmm... Very agile handling of the personal attack, I must say. Your yahoo Group "worries" me not at all. Your group promotes Mark Howie, the Zappa-List promotes FZ (ya see, I can tell that from the titles, and from the slant both groups take). Regardless of your statement, we're not devoted to the same cause. Your cause is the Turtles; my cause is FZ. This aint tomato / tomahto, this is apples and oranges. Wrong, my cause is not The Turtles. If you had read about what you are talking about before speaking, perhaps you would have seen that my group clearly is devoted to Flo Eddie AND Frank Zappa. And if you were truly concerned only with promoting FZ, and not yourself via your group, you would post FZ related info without the "check out my Group" addendum.Excuse me? YOU JUST WROTE TO ME THAT ALOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD MIGHT NOT WANT TO READ FLO AND EDDIE POSTS. I was doing you a favor but from now on, I will just fully post without worrying about your problems with Flo and Eddie posts. So who's in "competition" here? Not I. The List has been (and continues to be) very happy with the simple rules that I've imposed in regards to messages. In my opinion, your promotion campaign isn't much different than the porn spammers out there that want you to check out their groups.So you will have this group believe that promoting Flo and Eddi is the same as promoting porn? Can't wait to send this to the Zappa boys. By the way, you should really check out who you are dishing out before you do so, might be stepping on the toes connected to the ass that you have to kiss tomorrow. Face it, Mr. Rosenberg, you're a spammer. The fact that you took such offense to my suggestion that you keep your posts focused on Frank, with out the promotional message, only proves that fact...If I am a spammer, why don't you delete me from your list? Afraid I'll contact someone about it, someone you actually may give two f's for? I didn't hide the post under a secret name, I put it under a F E title, and viewers have the option of deleting the post or ignoring it's content! But your post didn't say anything about FE... It said in effect "click here if you want some inside poop on the Zappa boys and FE".Again, this is coming from the same person that said "Besides, what would happen if some of the folk here, who do not feel that Flo Eddie were god's gift to the MOI (trust me, they're legion) "If you were interested in discussing FZ, you would have posted the info, without the "click here" addendum. Spam, sir. On the contrary and please do not speak for me, or for that matter, please don't speak for anyone but yourself! My site, unlike yours, honors the first ammendment and we welcome all free speech. I would definitely want people to speak their minds and I definitely would not want someone telling people on my site what they could and couldn't post! I speak for no one but myself. And those who join the Zappa-List are not censored - once they've shown that they have only the best interests of the List at heart. You've demonstrated only a love of your Group, not the List. So, run your Group your way; more power to you. If I felt that the way I run the List was contrary to the member's wishes, I would gladly step down as owner... There's no agrandizement in it for me. And there's no one bitching about it but you. I repeat, info on them is welcome here... I totally disagree. You have done everything to make me feel that my Flo and Eddie posts and related FZ info are not welcome here. Had your posts contained anything worth sharing, this "disagreement" would not have taken place... And now, I no longer feel the need to justify my actions - to you. I welcome any other member's opinion on this matter. Music is the Best! SOFA For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
[Zappa-List] SOFA Re: Flo and Eddie tour with the Zappa Boys next year
Right, you disapprove of Frank Zappa related information. Well said SOFA --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other email groups have been mentioned here, Gabriel? Or do you mean web sites? I don't recall any email Groups mentioned here, not in the last several years... Obviously, I tend be rather strict about that - that, and personal attacks; the only two prohibitions I employ... Web sites with FZ content - heck yeah! The more the better! This was the very first post Mr. Rosenberg submitted, which y'all didn't get to see (because I disapproved it): Subscribe to turtlesfan [input] [input] Powered by launch.groups.yahoo.com Post message:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:turtlesfan-subsc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This was Mr. Rosenberg's way of saying Hello to us. Nothing more, nothing less. Just join this group... I, uh, don't see any mention of FZ there anywhere, do you? Thank you for posting your thoughts, Gabriel. I will consider them from now on. To do this group justice, I need to know how folks feel about things... Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: Gabriel To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA Re: Flo and Eddie tour with the Zappa Boys next year Well said, but we can't forget other groups have been mentioned here, and i personally feel there's nothing wrong with that if it's properly contextualized (ie, a conversation brings up a topic and someone mentions a related group). It's different than going ´check out my group´ out of nothing. Gabriel Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/yXLolB/TM ~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA Re: Flo and Eddie tour with the Zappa Boys next year
Wrong, my cause is not The Turtles. If you had read about what you are talking about before speaking, perhaps you would have seen that my group clearly is devoted to Flo Eddie AND Frank Zappa. My mistake then... I popped by after the initial "hello"; I didn't see anything there of any great import. I'm sure that I'm really missing out on something far-out and groovy - like a night at a Holiday Inn. (Magic Fingers in the bed, wall-mounted TV screens, coffee hose plugged into the bathroom wall - formica's really keen.) And if you were truly concerned only with promoting FZ, and not yourself via your group, you would post FZ related info without the "check out my Group" addendum. Excuse me? YOU JUST WROTE TO ME THAT ALOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD MIGHT NOT WANT TO READ FLO AND EDDIE POSTS. I was doing you a favor but from now on, I will just fully post without worrying about your problems with Flo and Eddie posts. Whatever, Dude... The only "favor" you need do for anyone is follow the rules. Post all the FE poot you want. So ! you will have this group believe that promoting Flo and Eddi is the same as promoting porn? Can't wait to send this to the Zappa boys. By the way, you should really check out who you are dishing out before you do so, might be stepping on the toes connected to the ass that you have to kiss tomorrow. Promoting FE isn't the same as promoting porn. The way you went about it is. Big Difference. The fact that you don't seem to get it is amusing... Send whatever you want to whomever you wish. I have so far refrained from "dishing" you, or anyone else, out. I have merely called a spade a spade... If I am a spammer, why don't you delete me from your list? Afraid I'll contact someone about it, someone you actually may give two f's for? I don't need to delete you. Unfortunately, I do have to moderate you. Because you just don't get it. Frankly, I don't need this kind of shit... And I fear nothing, from you or anyone you'd care to contact. Your rant is so baseless, and your "defense" is so pathetic, your only proving my point with every response. This kinda reminds me of Isaac over at the zappa forums. He doesn't get it either... Music is the Best! SOFA For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] YAWYI resolved, the question is...
I support Jim's decision here. I'm not aware enough to police this, so I'm leaving it up to him and the rest of you to see that we stay "legit" at the List. What y'all want to do in private is your business... Keeping it Clean, yet Greasy SOFA - Original Message - From: Jim L To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] YAWYI resolved, the question is... Yes the TTNS most defiantly has several tracks that also appear on The DubRoom Special. I did the original VHS rip that has been on Dimeadozen/EZT andZappateers as well as being vine'd here more than once. In addition to thatI started I vine of the Room 101 bootleg of the KCET concert that makes upthe remainder of the live footage in Dub Room. Then there was the SteveAllen and much more vine. That one contains the entire Dub Room Special.Also there are some VCD versions of TTNS going around. All of these havefootage in common with Dub Room but probably less than 30% at the most. I would propose that any vines that contain common footage with the Dub Roomshould be officially discontinued on this list. Some newer members on thislist may not be aware that as well as appearing here, posts to this listalso appear on a publicly accessible web page somewhere that I became awareof about a year ago. I guess they still do. Certainly serious collectors aregoing to want these full concerts for their collections though as The DubRoom only has a few selections from each show. I guess what I'm trying tosay is that any trading or vining concerning these shows probably should bedone off list if at all. I think all these vines were/are still active. Also I would encourage everyone to purchase the official Dub Room. Eventhough I have a couple of different high quality bootleg versions I'll beplacing my order this weekend. It's a steal at just over ten bucks.Jim L-Original Message-From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OnBehalf Of forbin_99Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:28 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Zappa-List] YAWYI resolved, the question is...YAWYI controversy which I created has been resolved, now the question is... What do we do about TTNS DVD? Since parts of that ARE in DRS.For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home pagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/yXLolB/TM~- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA Re: Flo and Eddie tour with the Zappa Boys next year
sofa i belong to his turtles group and the way he printed that email made u look like a jerk who was pissed that he posted a email from howard,just thought u should know[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong, my cause is not The Turtles. If you had read about what you are talking about before speaking, perhaps you would have seen that my group clearly is devoted to Flo Eddie AND Frank Zappa. My mistake then... I popped by after the initial "hello"; I didn't see anything there of any great import. I'm sure that I'm really missing out on something far-out and groovy - like a night at a Holiday Inn. (Magic Fingers in the bed, wall-mounted TV screens, coffee hose plugged into the bathroom wall - formica's really keen.) And if you were truly concerned only with promoting FZ, and not yourself via your group, you would post FZ related info without the "check out my Group" addendum. Excuse me? YOU JUST WROTE TO ME THAT ALOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD MIGHT NOT WANT TO READ FLO AND EDDIE POSTS. I was doing you a favor but from now on, I will just fully post without worrying about your problems with Flo and Eddie posts. Whatever, Dude... The only "favor" you need do for anyone is follow the rules. Post all the FE poot you want. So ! you will have this group believe that promoting Flo and Eddi is the same as promoting porn? Can't wait to send this to the Zappa boys. By the way, you should really check out who you are dishing out before you do so, might be stepping on the toes connected to the ass that you have to kiss tomorrow. Promoting FE isn't the same as promoting porn. The way you went about it is. Big Difference. The fact that you don't seem to get it is amusing... Send whatever you want to whomever you wish. I have so far refrained from "dishing" you, or anyone else, out. I have merely called a spade a spade... If I am a spammer, why don't you delete me from your list? Afraid I'll contact someone about it, someone you actually may give two f's for? I don't need to delete you. Unfortunately, I do have to moderate you. Because you just don't get it. Frankly, I don't need this kind of shit... And I fear nothing, from you or anyone you'd care to contact. Your rant is so baseless, and your "defense" is so pathetic, your only proving my point with every response. This kinda reminds me of Isaac over at the zappa forums. He doesn't get it either... Music is the Best! SOFA For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA Re: Flo and Eddie tour with the Zappa Boys next year
Interesting... It wasn't I who asked that he stop; most likely this is in response someone else's request. Like Howard's, LOL! Thanks for another head's up, rabbitt. Hey, why don't you tell us a quick Howie story, rabbitt? Your stories are probably better than Mr. Rosenberg's by a long shot! Warm Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: WHITE RABBITT To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA Re: Flo and Eddie tour with the Zappa Boys next year From: "The Strange Dave Rosenberg Band" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: ThuNov10,2005 9:04 am Subject: Posting Private Emails thestrangeda... Offline Send Email I have been asked to stop posting the private emails that Howard andMark write to me. I didn't realize that it offended anyone, Iapologize if it did.The reason why I posted those emails is because I; (a) wantedeveryone on the board to believe that I wasn't full of crap and Ireally am a friend (in a limited capacity) to Mark and Howard (b)wanted everyone to feel as close to M H as I do (c) didn't want torewrite their words as my own in a general paraphrase and (d) wantedto be real with the group and (e) didn't think that Mark and Howardwould give two F's if I posted their completely Turtles/FE musicbusiness related emails, that were written to a fan, with only 14other fans, as the turtles yahoo fan page only has 15 membersincluding the one fan that the emails were originally sent to.I have been asked to stop by another Turtles fan, I don't want toupset anyone on this board at all, so I am adhering.I am sorry to say that I no longer am allowed to post private Turtleswritten email on this list, but I will do my best to relay all theinformation I can. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
