[Zope-dev] Zope 4.0 roadmap release plan
Hi, Is there any roadmap release plan for Zope 4.0 ? At my work, we use Zope 2.12 and we are looking forward to upgrading to Zope 2.13. Depending on Zope 4.0 availability, we can think about directly moving to Zope 4.0 Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Puzzle re zope.pytest
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Uli Fouquet u...@gnufix.de wrote: [...snip...] The main problem why we got stuck is test separation. Especially the setup and teardown of ZCA registrations, which should happen before and after each single test and might be different for certain groups of tests. So we looked for some replacement of the way zope.testing layers are doing it, but still could not find anything similar in py.test which makes it hard to use already available techniques (for instance provided by plone.testing) as there seems to be no hook in py.test to trigger this stuff at the right point in time. Something like this should work: def pytest_funcarg__app(request): Create app funcarg return request.cached_setup( setup=_get_app, #this should return an app object teardown=_release_app, #destroy things here scope='function') def test_something(app): pass Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [ZWeb] buildout link broken
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Sascha Welter zopel...@betabug.ch wrote: Hi! Someone on #zope just noted that on http://www.zope.org/community the link to http://buildout.zope.org/ is dead. buildout.zope.org does not resolve properly (there is a CNAME record to hetzner03-1.zope.org - but name resolution stops there). The CNAME could be fixed, but I would suggest to use the actual URL, that is http://www.buildout.org/ Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [Zope-dev] Sharing session between different zope servers
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: [...snip...] Zope 2's built-in session machinery should handle a couple dozen sessions at a time. Once you go beyond that look at Beaker (via collective.beaker) and memcached as a backend. Is memcached a reliable storage for session data ? I am also searching for a good session storage mechanism. I also found another backend for Beaker: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mongodb_beaker I would like to hear others experience with memcached as a reliable storage for session data. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Sharing session between different zope servers
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Baiju M baiju.m.m...@gmail.com wrote: Is memcached a reliable storage for session data ? I would like to hear others experience with memcached as a reliable storage for session data. It depends on what kind of reliability you need. Generally your sessions should be short-lived and memcached is fine for that. Well, what about a persistent session storage for 20 minutes in memcached ? Do we have any control over when the keys are evicted ? I am just reading few articles related to this: http://sparklewise.com/?p=538 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slab_allocation http://code.google.com/p/memcached/wiki/MemcachedSlabAllocator Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope] application/json request in Zope 2
Hi, How to listen for application/json request in Zope 2 Is this project is the way to go ? http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Products.jsonserver/1.2a1 Or is there any better approach ? I am using Zope 2.12 Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)
Hi, Please change buildout URL to www.buildout.org (buildout.zope.org redirect to the other domain) -- Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testbrowser and WebTest (round 2)
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 04:22:25PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote: I now believe I've taken care of all the issues raised in your review. connection.py still feels uncomfortable, but I can live with it Unless there are any objections, I plan to merge all three branches (zope.testbrowser, zope.app.wsgi and zope.app.testing) early next week. Is there anyone willing to make releases of these to PyPI? (or give me the access to do it myself) I can give you PyPI access to all three. Note: when asking for PyPI access it's customary to mention one's PyPI username. I guessed his user name as 'jinty' and added, is that correct ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Sprints at PyCon
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hi, I'll be at PyCon during the sprints. As promised from the tasks last year, I'd be happy to organize Zope sprinting activity. Who's coming? Who's interested? Any topic suggestions? I am coming to PyCON and planning to stay for sprint (all days). I have two suggestions: 1. Port ZTK to Python 3 2. Port ZTK to PyPy (trunk version is Python 2.7 compatible) I am interested to work on zc.buildout and recipes to port to Python 3. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Sprints at PyCon
Hi Theune, On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Baiju M baiju.m.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hi, I'll be at PyCon during the sprints. As promised from the tasks last year, I'd be happy to organize Zope sprinting activity. Who's coming? Who's interested? Any topic suggestions? I am coming to PyCON and planning to stay for sprint (all days). I have two suggestions: 1. Port ZTK to Python 3 2. Port ZTK to PyPy (trunk version is Python 2.7 compatible) I am interested to work on zc.buildout and recipes to port to Python 3. I added Zope project here, with your name as the leader :) http://us.pycon.org/2011/sprints/projects/ It's a wiki, feel free to make changes! Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope2 egg is not available in index
Hi, Why Zope2 egg itself is not available in index: http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.11/ I check previous releases also. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 egg is not available in index
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Hi. On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Baiju M baiju.m.m...@gmail.com wrote: Why Zope2 egg itself is not available in index: http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.11/ Could you please open a bug report at Launchpad about this? It's a bug in the release scripts. Done. https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/653546 Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Different Zope 3.4.2 Newbie feedback
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 September 2010 01:33, Christopher Lozinski lozin...@freerecruiting.com wrote: Here I am sharing my thoughts as a Zope 3.4.2 newbie. As you have been told three times this week already: Zope 3 is in effect dead. You want to look at Grok (if you want less ZCML and more convention-based configuration) and/or Blue Bream (which is basically the evolution of Zope 3.4 under a new, less confusing name). To discuss anything about Grok and BlueBream, it is recommended to join their respective mailing lists: https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/grok-dev https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/bluebream BTW, BlueBream has a nice (third party) admin UI (ice.control): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIQQBZN8Kwc It is not really for TTW development, but it will be very useful while developing applications. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Hi. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hanno was there and we chatted a bit, one of the outcomes was his update mail which you already received. Hhm, interesting. Are you or me hallucinating? I definitely wasn't at the zope-dev meeting. There was a ZTK release team meeting before, though. Maybe you talked to J-W or ccomb. As I can see in this log, he talked to J-W and got the info :) http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-08-17.log.html#t2010-08-17T18:04:44 -- Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope] Zope document root or where do I keep my swfobject in Zope
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: Tapas Mishra wrote: I am having a javascript which I am using in my site. My server is Zope I am not able to find where should I keep the javascript in it. Can any one help? Check the browser:resource ZCML directive. http://bluebream.zope.org/doc/1.0/manual/browserresource.html -- Baiju M ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[ZWeb] Documentation site is not getting updated
Hi, I think the cron job or script not working. Now the documentation site is not getting updated: http://bluebream.zope.org/doc/1.0/index.html Who is having access to check docs.zope.org, bluebream.zope.org and other Sphix sites. (I can understand that 2 or 3 persons would be best with access to check these kind of things than many people with access) Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Documentation site is not getting updated
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: Could you contact me directly with issues such as this? Thanks. Sure. Can I add CC to zope-web list, so that others also will be informed about the issue. This will also reduce duplicate reports. While people discussing like this, we can also point the zope-web list: http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2010-08-10.log.html#t2010-08-10T17:58:15 Let zope-web become bit active :) Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[Zope] How to get context from Zope 2
Hi, How can I get the context (say, root folder) within a function called by a scheduler. I am using tgscheduler to call a function at particular interval: http://code.google.com/p/tgscheduler/ How can I get the root folder (context) from this function ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope-dev] Retire zope3-checkins list
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: Hi, What about retiring zope3-checkins list ? I send this sometimes back. What needs to be done to retire this list ? I think there are few post-commit hooks in svn for Zope3,zope.testing, zope.formlib and may be few others. May be we can discuss this in tomorrows IRC meeting also. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Request for review: z3c.recipe.i18n (branch: baijum-zcml-path)
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 03:51:20PM +0530, Baiju M wrote: Hi Roger, I have created a branch to add a small feature addition to i18n recipe (z3c.recipe.i18n) here: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/z3c.recipe.i18n/branches/baijum-zcml-path I'm not Roger, but I looked at http://zope3.pov.lt/trac/log/z3c.recipe.i18n/branches/baijum-zcml-path anyway. Now the value of `zcml` option could be specified as a path to ZCML file. The old behaviour, which was expecting a ZCML string is retained. I'm not sure it makes sense to me: if you make a mistake and your ZCML is not well-formed, it will be treated as a filename? I don't think IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'include package=z3c.recipe.tests file=extract.zcml /' is very friendly, and could lead the user on a wild-goose chase assuming that extract.zcml is somehow missing in the z3c.recipe.tests package (instead of noticing the stray and removing it). I'd rather see an alternative option name zcml-file = /path/name Please let me know, if I can merge this branch to trunk and make a new release. Since this is feature addition, I will be giving version number as 0.8.0. Incidentally, can you use zcml = include file=/absolute/path/name / without specifying a package? In other words, is this just syntactic sugar for something that's already possible, or a way to do something that wasn't possible before? Thanks for the review! I can use file option without specifying the package. So, I am not going to merge my branch. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Request for review: z3c.recipe.i18n (branch: baijum-zcml-path)
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Michael Howitz m...@gocept.com wrote:
Am 09.08.2010 um 09:38 schrieb Baiju M:
[...]
Incidentally, can you use
zcml = include file=/absolute/path/name /
without specifying a package? In other words, is this just syntactic
sugar for something that's already possible, or a way to do something
that wasn't possible before?
Thanks for the review!
I can use file option without specifying the package.
So, I am not going to merge my branch.
But could you please document this in the package for the next one who wants
this feature?
I just added a note like this:
Note: To include a ZCML file outside package, you can use,
``include`` directive with ``file`` option. For example: ``include
file=${buildout:directory}/etc/site.zcml /``
Thanks for reminding!
Regards,
Baiju M
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[Zope-dev] Request for review: z3c.recipe.i18n (branch: baijum-zcml-path)
Hi Roger, I have created a branch to add a small feature addition to i18n recipe (z3c.recipe.i18n) here: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/z3c.recipe.i18n/branches/baijum-zcml-path Now the value of `zcml` option could be specified as a path to ZCML file. The old behaviour, which was expecting a ZCML string is retained. Please let me know, if I can merge this branch to trunk and make a new release. Since this is feature addition, I will be giving version number as 0.8.0. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] locale data inside zope.i18n
Hi, The zope.i18n has some locale data inside zope/i18n/locales/data. The global locale provider (zope.i18n.locales.locales) get data from this directory. What is the recommended approach to add a new locale XML file which is not available in CLDR: http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/browser/trunk/common/main/ I think the data available inside zope.i18n is bit outdated compared to what is available in Unicode site: http://unicode.org/Public/cldr/1.8.1/ How we are updating this database ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 04.08.2010, 10:56 Uhr, schrieb Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org: In essence: If your egg is in the Products namespace you don't need to do anything after adding it e.g. to the list of eggs for a Zope instance in your buildout.cfg. The product will be recognized, installed, and any configure.zcml in the root picked up automatically. ie. in buildout just putting eggs = Products.MailTemplates should work fine. As will pip install Products.MailTemplates (just tested against Products.CMFDefault) That's one reason I stick to that namespace for anything that is indeed a Zope 2 Product. OTOH if you don't want to stick with Products. you will need to add something like zcml = simplistix.MailTemplates to your instance configuration and you're good. There is an assumption that plone.recipe.zope2instance [1] is used to create instances from Buildout. [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plone.recipe.zope2instance Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Baiju M wrote: zcml = simplistix.MailTemplates to your instance configuration and you're good. There is an assumption that plone.recipe.zope2instance [1] is used to create instances from Buildout. yes, which it isn't for me, since it's evil and I'm not using Plone ;-) The plone.recipe.zope2instance is not Plone specific. It works well for us. BTW, there is related recipe: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plone.recipe.zeoserver Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Class advisors in Python 3
Hi, Does class advisors like 'implements' and 'adapts' are going to work in Python 3 ? If not, should we discourage its usage now ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] z3c.testsetup test faliure (was Re: Zope Tests: 55 OK, 18 Failed)
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: Le 11/07/2010 13:59, Zope Tests Summarizer a écrit : Subject: FAILED : Bluebream / Python2.4.6 32bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Jul 10 22:05:41 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-July/016427.html Subject: FAILED : Bluebream / Python2.5.2 32bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Jul 10 22:07:33 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-July/016428.html Subject: FAILED : Bluebream / Python2.6.4 32bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Jul 10 22:07:34 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-July/016429.html This is a failure in z3c.testsetup. Can someone have a look at it? It also fails with 0.7.0. FYI: In trunk, if I pin zc.recipe.testrunner to 1.2.0, this failure is going away. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.testsetup test faliure (was Re: Zope Tests: 55 OK, 18 Failed)
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: Le 11/07/2010 13:59, Zope Tests Summarizer a écrit : Subject: FAILED : Bluebream / Python2.4.6 32bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Jul 10 22:05:41 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-July/016427.html Subject: FAILED : Bluebream / Python2.5.2 32bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Jul 10 22:07:33 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-July/016428.html Subject: FAILED : Bluebream / Python2.6.4 32bit linux From: ccomb at free.fr Date: Sat Jul 10 22:07:34 EDT 2010 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-July/016429.html This is a failure in z3c.testsetup. Can someone have a look at it? It also fails with 0.7.0. FYI: In trunk, if I pin zc.recipe.testrunner to 1.2.0, this failure is going away. I mean the trunk of z3c.testsetup Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope 2: move nt_svcutils to separate distribution
Hi, I was working on running ZEO as a windows service using plone.recipe.zeoserver: http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/buildout/plone.recipe.zeoserver/branches/baijum-windows-service/ (This branch need some review) For this functionality (running ZEO as a windows service), that recipe need to depend on Zope2 distribution as it require nt_svcutils package. I propose to create a separate distribution which just contains nt_svcutils package. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/setup.py Update home page to: http://zope2.zope.org
Log message for revision 112246: Update home page to: http://zope2.zope.org Changed: U Zope/trunk/setup.py -=- Modified: Zope/trunk/setup.py === --- Zope/trunk/setup.py 2010-05-11 16:37:43 UTC (rev 112245) +++ Zope/trunk/setup.py 2010-05-12 03:20:25 UTC (rev 112246) @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ setup(name='Zope2', version='2.13.0dev', -url='http://www.zope.org', +url='http://zope2.zope.org', license='ZPL 2.1', description='Zope2 application server / web framework', author='Zope Foundation and Contributors', ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins
Re: [Zope] cron like service
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Garry Saddington ga...@schoolteachers.co.uk wrote: Can anyone suggest the easiest way to automatically have a python script fire at set times of the day/month/year. Well, these things may not be easiest: http://celeryproject.org/ http://packages.python.org/zc.async/1.5.0/ Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.exceptiosn release has no relaese date
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: I thought it was painless already, but maybe I was wrong. :) It's very nice to be able to do a full release by just typing 'fullrelease' and saying 'yes' a number of times. The tool made a convert out of me, and I know others who also were pleased by how much it sped things up, even though, as I was, they were initially somewhat skeptical. I am a happy user of zest.releaser (Thanks to the developers!) It made release of bluebream (PasteScript based project template) package very easy. I can do a full release within 1 minute ! Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Dropping Python 2.4 supports makes most sense to me at this stage. Zope2/Plone only support Python 2.6 for any modern version. I don't know what BlueBream and Grok want to support, but would guess they aim for Python 2.5 + 2.6 support. 2.4 is really old by now. Python 2.4 will be supported for BB 1.0 release, but the package versions for that release is already freezed, so no problem for dropping 2.4 support. AFAIK, Grok 1.1 release versions are also freezed as a release candidate is out. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] version pinning on tags
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: On Thursday 29 April 2010, Adam GROSZER wrote: I'd say we should nail the package versions on (at least) tags. Either to a KGS, or drop a versions.cfg into the package. The recipe buildout.dumppickedversions would be handy. +1 to use a KGS. ZTK or BB depending on what the dependencies are. Since normally we don't pin versions in trunk, I guess we need to do the pinning in maintenance branches. Otherwise we can keep the version pinning in trunk, but comment the versions option. Then, just before going for release, uncomment it. This will become one more step in creating releases: http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/releasing-software.html Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] windows binaries
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Adam GROSZER wrote: How do you used to build binaries for windowze? I mean which compilers do you use? mingw32? MS? Ohhh and don't forget win64 ;-) and various python version, like from 2.4 up to 3.1. I did a few releases just using mingw32. I think it is the best we can do for now that scales. As for Python versions, you simply have to installthem all and go through the dance. Does mingw32 works for 64 bit also ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK Friends Bug Day 19th May 2010
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Baiju kindly offered to set up Wiki for those planning to take part so everyone has an idea of who'll be taking part and what they're planning to work on. Knowing other people are working specifically on bug fixes makes it easier when asking for help. http://wiki.zope.org/ztk http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/BugDays I have copied the previous BugDay page from here: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/BugDay20100424 to there: http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/BugDay20100424 Actually there was no consensus on the name of wiki. But I felt ztk is fine, please let me know if any issues. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Retire zope3-checkins list
Hi, What about retiring zope3-checkins list ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.publisher
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Someone please grant PYPI perm to me (agroszer) or do a release from svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.publisher/branches/3.4 Done. -- Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/doc/INSTALL.rst typo fix
Log message for revision 110175: typo fix Changed: U Zope/branches/2.12/doc/INSTALL.rst -=- Modified: Zope/branches/2.12/doc/INSTALL.rst === --- Zope/branches/2.12/doc/INSTALL.rst 2010-03-24 21:44:35 UTC (rev 110174) +++ Zope/branches/2.12/doc/INSTALL.rst 2010-03-25 13:48:53 UTC (rev 110175) @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ If you don't already have ``virtualenv`` installed on your system, download the latest release from the `virtualenv PyPI page -http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtaulenv`_, unpack it, and install it, e.g.:: +http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv`_, unpack it, and install it, e.g.:: $ wget http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/v/virtualenv/virtualenv-1.4.5.tar.gz $ tar xzf virtualenv-1.4.5.tar.gz ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins
[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/doc/INSTALL.rst typo fix
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Re: [Zope-dev] Update ZTK: zc.resourcelibrary 1.3.1
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Christian Zagrodnick c...@gocept.com wrote: Hi, I just released zc.resourcelibrary 1.3.1. Great ! IMO the ZTK should be updated accordingly. +1 Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Control Panel/Product Management doesn't display normal products in Zope 2.12
Hi, In Zope 2.12, Control Panel - Product Management doesn't display normal products. This functionality was working until Zope 2.11 Can anyone tell me whether this was removed purposefully or a bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/538932 Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Optional C extensions
Hi, Any idea how difficult it is to create optional C extensions for these packages: zope.container zope.hookable zope.proxy zope.security I think for all other packages in ZTK has optional C extensions: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/StatusOfWindowsBinaryPackages Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component.zcml and global registry
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Fabio Tranchitella kob...@kobold.it wrote: * 2010-03-04 20:51, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: Committed with tests. If nobody objects, I would like to release a new (bugfix) release of zope.component with the current trunk. This is the relevant entry from the CHANGES.txt file: - The ZCML directives provided by zope.component now register the components in the registry returned by getSiteManager instead of the global registry. This allows the hooking of the getSiteManager method before the load of a ZCML file to register the components in a custom registry. Is this a feature release ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Version bumping in the trunk after release
Hi, I would propose a one word change in the Releasing Software document which is part of process documentation for zopetookit. After preparing a release, developer increase next version number to next feature version or next bugfix version. From the explanation given there, it is very obvious that the number should be changed to next bugfix release. I think the wording also should be changed, so that there won't be any confusion. This sentence: Back on the trunk or the release branch, increase the version number in ``setup.py`` to the *next* release while preserving the ``dev`` marker. Should be changed to: Back on the trunk or the release branch, increase the version number in ``setup.py`` to the *next* bugfix release while preserving the ``dev`` marker. If there is no objection, I am going to make this change after 3 days. To understand the context, here is the full text: 6. Back on the trunk or the release branch, increase the version number in ``setup.py`` to the *next* bugfix release while preserving the ``dev`` marker. The convention is that the trunk or release branch always points to the upcoming release, *not* the one that has been released already. So if you've just released version 3.4.1, you should change ``setup.py`` to read:: setup( name='...', version='3.4.2dev', ... ) In ``CHANGES.txt`` add a *new* section for the upcoming release. The release date for that should say unreleased so that committers recording their changes won't accidentally put their entry in the section for an already released version. For example:: 3.4.2 (unreleased) -- * ... 3.4.1 (2007-01-24) -- * Fixed bug in the foo adapter. * Added a bar utility for optimized kaboodling. 3.4.0 (2006-09-13) -- Initial release as separate egg. Regards, Baiju M Index: source/process/releasing-software.rst === --- source/process/releasing-software.rst (revision 109748) +++ source/process/releasing-software.rst (working copy) @@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ versions and linking models (framework / non-framework). 6. Back on the trunk or the release branch, increase the version - number in ``setup.py`` to the *next* release while preserving the + number in ``setup.py`` to the *next* bugfix release while preserving the ``dev`` marker. The convention is that the trunk or release branch always points to the upcoming release, *not* the one that has been released already. So if you've just released version 3.4.1, you ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Uses of the ZTK and how it relates to management
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Fabio Tranchitella kob...@kobold.it wrote: * 2010-03-03 21:44, Jim Fulton wrote: The ZTK was created in part to deal with instability issues arising from people working on parts without testing the whole. I suppose everybody here agrees that any change to a package which is part of the ZTK *must* be tested against the whole ZTK. It would be easier to nd leading developers for subgroups of packages (eg. bicycle repair kit, rm generation, ...) willing to raise the quality of a specific subset of packages instead of finding a release manager willing to oversee 60 packages, which he does not really use (because I don't think we have a single developer using *all* of the packages in the ZTK). These specific leading developers could report and synchronize with a ZTK release manager, though. I wonder whether we can split ztk.cfg zopeapp.cfg further logically ? Something like zca.cfg , index.cfg, form.cfg, auth.cfg etc. ? May be we will end up with one cfg file for each package :) Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of today's developer meeting
Hi Sebastien, On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Sebastien Douche sdou...@gmail.com wrote: The current state of nightly builds is a bit untidy. According to http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/buildbots.html there's four buildbot installations with various scopes. The last two in this listing are currently non-functional. The new URL is : http://bluebream.buildbot.securactive.org/ Thanks for setting up Buildbot for BB. Can you please co-ordinate with Christophe Combelles, he already setup a Buildbot for BB: http://zope3.afpy.org/buildbot/waterfall (I have CC'ed him here) Baiju : Do you want another Buildbots? (za = zopeproject, com = community, ztk = Zope TollKit, bb = BlueBream). A single build master as you organized looks good. Do we need multiple masters located at different servers ? What I really needed is more slaves. We need to find volunteers to provide Windows slaves (both 32bit 64bit) Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [ZWeb] [BlueBream] Mail List Not Working
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Harouff, Paul paul.haro...@tbe.com wrote: For some reason, the message I send get posted, but I’m not receiving any reply mail. I even tried clicking “send me my password” and received no message. My company installed new Trend Micro antivirus server over the weekend. I wonder if it’s blocking these messages now. I’m going to try changing to my account to my gmail address. Sorry for the issues. I just checked the ban_list in mailman, but your ID seems to be there. I can see your mails (this mail also) appearing in the archives: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/bluebream/2010-March/date.html If your internal virus checking is not making no issue, please let me know. I have CC'ed this mail to zope-web list. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [Zope-dev] Reminder: IRC meeting today at 3pm UTC
- Zope 3.5 release I would like to hear from others what is missing in BlueBream 1.0 (to be released on May 31st) as a logical up-gradation path from Zope 3.4 Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Releasing Zope packages
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Souheil CHELFOUH troll...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm about to release zope.pluggableauth. Is there a comprehensive documentation listing all the needed steps ? http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/releasing-software.html Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope] Graceful Zope 2 restart (ZServer)
Hi, Any pointers to restart Zope 2 (ZServer) gracefully ? Does Lifetime.shutdown(1) will do that ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-dev] Moving discussions about BlueBream to new list
Hi All, BlueBream project is moving technical discussions to bluebr...@zope.org list. You are welcome to join: https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/bluebream We started discussing about release preparations now: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/bluebream/2010-January/59.html Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Need access to download.zope.org
Hi, As part of BlueBream release, we want to release Buildout configuration files to: http://download.zope.org/bluebream/bluebream-x.x.x .cfg Ref: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/ReleasingBlueBream Can anyone help me to create a top-level directory named bluebream in that server ? Also I need access to scp files to that directory. My zope.org username is 'baijum' Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope] Cann't we use 'get' as object name in Zope 2.12 ?
Hi,
Any idea about this ?
app.manage_addFolder('get')
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
File /opt/baiju/zesite/eggs/Zope2-2.12.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/OFS/Folder.py,
line 51, in manage_addFolder
self._setObject(id, ob)
File
/opt/baiju/zesite/eggs/Zope2-2.12.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/OFS/ObjectManager.py,
line 332, in _setObject
v = self._checkId(id)
File
/opt/baiju/zesite/eggs/Zope2-2.12.1-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/OFS/ObjectManager.py,
line 116, in checkValidId
'The id %s is invalid - it is already in use.' % id)
zExceptions.BadRequest: The id get is invalid - it is already in use.
Regards,
Baiju M
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4 and the way forward
Hi Marius, On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: So, what's the way forward for existing Zope 3.4 (KGS) users? I hope you might be heard about BlueBream. My ideas is to create a successor to Zope 3. As part of this effort, I started working on a KGS based on zopetookit: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/bbkit/trunk Well, I don't want to speak more as we don't have anything to show. Anyway, here are few links: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/BlueBreamWiki http://bluebream.zope.org/doc/1.0/index.html BTW, I am fine if anyone focus on a ZopeApp KGS to upgrade from Zope 3.4 KGS. Then, BueBream will use that KGS. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Legal formalities to accept log and design
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Theune wrote: On 01/25/2010 03:15 AM, Baiju M wrote: Hi Christophe, On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: maybe just be sure the original author won't claim anything in the future? ie. the logo should be released with a free licence. Just to avoid the kind of troubles we had with new.zope.org I will look into the concerns (GPL font exception) raised by Tres. Which license would be useful for a logo ? That's actually interesting from the perspective that stuff that goes into zope.org SVN needs to be ZPL. The foundation might want to check for an exception WRT logos, maybe. The FSF's font exception turns out to be mostly irrelevant for Baiju's purposes: his document (an image) doesn't embed the font itself, but merely contains pixels generated by rendering the font. In copyright terms, this is no different than ink on paper printed from metal type: the font author has no claim on the ink / paper as a derived work under copyright law. What about committing SVG (source) file, so that others can modify easily. BTW, logos comes under trademark law, which is different from copyright law. Or is it like the actual source files can be covered under copyright, so that we can use a license based on copyright law ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Legal formalities to accept log and design
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: What about committing SVG (source) file, so that others can modify easily. How doe the SVG source files interact with the (TrueType, I presume?) font file? Font is TrueType, but I am not sure about how it is embedded in SVG. BTW, logos comes under trademark law, which is different from copyright law. Or is it like the actual source files can be covered under copyright, so that we can use a license based on copyright law ? Committers can't check in the GPL'ed font file itself to SVN without a waiver from the board, nor any files which count as derived works (and therefore must be GPL'ed), unless the derived work is covered by the font exception. I will only commit the SVG, PNG, ICO JPEG formats, is that Ok ? BTW, as I mentioned the font has font exception. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Legal formalities to accept log and design
Hi, I would like to know the legal formalities required to accept a logo (with special font). Also I would like to know the same for web design. Is there any guideline for Zope Foundation ? BlueBream team want to use a logo designed by an external person: http://muthukadan.net/bluebream/bluebream-logo-v1.png The font used there (Perizia: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Perizia_fonts) is designed by the same designer and released under GPL. One of my friend has offered a web design for the site (not done yet). Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Legal formalities to accept log and design
Hi Christophe, On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote: maybe just be sure the original author won't claim anything in the future? ie. the logo should be released with a free licence. Just to avoid the kind of troubles we had with new.zope.org I will look into the concerns (GPL font exception) raised by Tres. Which license would be useful for a logo ? Logo comes under trademark ? not copyright ? I couldn't find a any suitable license. Any CC variant ? I think something like this would be fine: http://www.python.org/community/logos/ http://plone.org/foundation/logo Using a GPL font for the logo surely won't force us to abandon the ZPL, no reason for concern there. The logo is nice, by the way. One thing to note: While you or the designer work on the logo, make sure you have a few vector graphics like EPS files as well, those will look the nicest if someone wants to use the logo in a printed publication. I'd personally prefer to see an SVG file. I can create a clean one from the bitmap logo if needed. It should then be stored in the bluebream template svn. He created the logo in Inkscape and he will give us the SVG. Baiju, when are we going to be sure we can use this logo? (in blog articles, or any publication). I also find it nice. He is working on the finishing work (in his free time). I told him to not go for any major alteration. We will wait some more time. Let's focus on documentation for time being. We will look into logo, website and other cool stuffs in parallel, but very slowly. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Legal formalities to accept log and design
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christophe Combelles wrote: Jens Vagelpohl a écrit : On 1/24/10 13:08 , Baiju M wrote: Hi, I would like to know the legal formalities required to accept a logo (with special font). Also I would like to know the same for web design. Is there any guideline for Zope Foundation ? BlueBream team want to use a logo designed by an external person: http://muthukadan.net/bluebream/bluebream-logo-v1.png The font used there (Perizia: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Perizia_fonts) is designed by the same designer and released under GPL. One of my friend has offered a web design for the site (not done yet). All that's perfectly fine. As Andreas said, there are no guildelines, as long as you are not using material that's already trademarked and copyrighted. maybe just be sure the original author won't claim anything in the future? ie. the logo should be released with a free licence. Just to avoid the kind of troubles we had with new.zope.org Using a GPL font for the logo surely won't force us to abandon the ZPL, no reason for concern there. The logo is nice, by the way. Fonts and the GPL are complicated[1]. As that essay notes, under U.S. copyright law, the look of a font cannot be copyrighted, which ought to mean that an image which contains pixels derived from rendering the font is not a derived work of the font: it doesn't contain a copy or transformation of anything copyrightable. However, the issue gets muddy, even before you consided non-U.S. law. So, before checking the image into the zope.org SVN repository (which forbids any GPL'ed content without explicit approval), please check to see that the font author has used the FSF's standard font exception clause[2]: As a special exception, if you create a document which uses this font, and embed this font or unaltered portions of this font into the document, this font does not by itself cause the resulting document to be covered by the GNU General Public License. This exception does not however invalidate any other reasons why the document might be covered by the GNU General Public License. If not, ask for the author to include that clause in the license for the font (and document that to the foundation board, if the exception is not published with the version of the font you use). Or ask for a more permissive (non-copyleft) licence, such as one of the Creative Commons licenses. If neither of those options is available, then I would ask the foundation board for permission to check in the image. [1] http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/20050425novalis [2] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FontException The font is Released under GNU GPL v3, with font exception. (from font file) http://hiraneffects.blogspot.com/2008/03/thanks-perizia-is-now-font.html?showComment=120514836#c7861527171323151625 Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] buildout + debugzope + wsgi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
What do we use nowadays instead of the good old debugzope script
with buildout and wsgi (and paster)?
I somehow did not find a recipe for that.
Both Grok BlueBream use zope.app.debug.debug to create
a debugger from database. And then create an interactive prompt,
like this:
db = zope.app.wsgi.config(zope_conf)
debugger = Debugger.fromDatabase(db)
# Invoke an interactive interpreter shell
banner = (Welcome to the interactive debug prompt.\n
The 'root' variable contains the ZODB root folder.\n
The 'app' variable contains the Debugger,
'app.publish(path)'
simulates a request.)
__import__('code').interact(banner=banner,
local={'debugger': debugger,
'app': debugger,
'root': debugger.root()})
But, there is slight difference between invoking the prompt in Grok
and BlueBream. Grok has [console_scripts] entry point to create a
custom command and BlueBream use [paste.global_paster_command]
entry point to create sub-command for paster.
BTW, BlueBream's idea is inspired by Pylons and code is stolen from Grok :)
Regards,
Baiju M
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[Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?
Hi All, I would like to get your opinion about this position statement, as it involve the wider Zope ecosystem. However, we tried to be diplomatic about other project's relationship with ZTK as we don't want to claim anything about others: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/BlueBreamName Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: I would like to get your opinion about this position statement, as it involve the wider Zope ecosystem. However, we tried to be diplomatic about other project's relationship with ZTK as we don't want to claim anything about others: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/BlueBreamName Two things: - Repoze is a brand name like Zope but not a particular project. BFG is a web application framework. BFG was certainly never based on Zope 3. But even the claim that it is based on the ZTK is far fetched. It depends on zope.component, zope.configuration and their dependencies. That's similar to Twisted depending on zope.interface or TurboGears depending on zope.sqlalchemy and transaction. Presenting it as if the dependency of BFG onto the ZTK is similar in scope to Grok or Zope2 is misleading. - Plone isn't a web application framework but a specific application. Zope 2 is a web application framework. If you want to include Plone into the graph, you have to put it at a different level than the other things. And both the dependency on Zope 3 and the ZTK are mediated via the Zope 2 dependency. So a 2010 graph should read more like: Plone Zope2 Grok BlueBream BFG ZTK ZCA Where there's a direct line from BFG to ZCA bypassing the ZTK. In the 2008 version ZTK would be Zope 3 with BlueBream missing. Thanks for the feedback. I have changed the Repoze to BFG. But the lines are just to indicate that there is some relation. We tried to be very careful when talking about the relation as we don't want to claim anything, at the same time, it doesn't contradict anything in reality: For example: Over time, other web frameworks, such as Grok / BFG evolved around Zope 3, which primarily utilize certain library packages from Zope 3 and don't make use of the Zope 3 application server. In the case of Plone also, it's very true: Other products, such as Plone also started to make use of the Zope 3 component architecture and the accompanied packages Also we emphasized: We cannot officially speak for other projects, so you can check their documentation to understand the relationship with ZTK Sorry, we don't have any plan to show the exact relationship between projects. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: I would like to get your opinion about this position statement, as it involve the wider Zope ecosystem. However, we tried to be diplomatic about other project's relationship with ZTK as we don't want to claim anything about others: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/BlueBreamName Two things: - Repoze is a brand name like Zope but not a particular project. BFG is a web application framework. BFG was certainly never based on Zope 3. But even the claim that it is based on the ZTK is far fetched. It depends on zope.component, zope.configuration and their dependencies. That's similar to Twisted depending on zope.interface or TurboGears depending on zope.sqlalchemy and transaction. Presenting it as if the dependency of BFG onto the ZTK is similar in scope to Grok or Zope2 is misleading. - Plone isn't a web application framework but a specific application. Zope 2 is a web application framework. If you want to include Plone into the graph, you have to put it at a different level than the other things. And both the dependency on Zope 3 and the ZTK are mediated via the Zope 2 dependency. So a 2010 graph should read more like: Plone Zope2 Grok BlueBream BFG ZTK ZCA Where there's a direct line from BFG to ZCA bypassing the ZTK. In the 2008 version ZTK would be Zope 3 with BlueBream missing. Thanks for the feedback. I have changed the Repoze to BFG. But the lines are just to indicate that there is some relation. We tried to be very careful when talking about the relation as we don't want to claim anything, at the same time, it doesn't contradict anything in reality: For example: Over time, other web frameworks, such as Grok / BFG evolved around Zope 3, which primarily utilize certain library packages from Zope 3 and don't make use of the Zope 3 application server. In the case of Plone also, it's very true: Other products, such as Plone also started to make use of the Zope 3 component architecture and the accompanied packages Also we emphasized: We cannot officially speak for other projects, so you can check their documentation to understand the relationship with ZTK Sorry, we don't have any plan to show the exact relationship between projects. Channeling Chris here: BFG can't truly be said to be a Zope3-derived framework: it doesn't *require* application developers to use the ZCA, altho[ugh it happens to use the ZCA in its implementation (primarily as an optimization at this point). Its dependencies have never included more than a handful of Zope3 packages (zope.interface, zope.component, zope.configuration, and dependencies). Its notions of a view is radically different than a Zope3 view, for instance: in BFG, a view is nearly always just a function or other callable, and only rarely (primarily in migrated code) a class / factory taking context and request and returning a view object. In 2010, *none* of the Zope3 technologies are required knowlege for a BFG developer: you can literally write a BFG app which imports *nothing* from the zope.* namespace at all (nor ZODB and related packages, etc.) Please read the sentence once again: BFG evolved around Zope 3, which primarily utilize certain library packages from Zope 3 and don't make use of the Zope 3 application server. We don't claim anything you said here. Each words are used very carefully. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: Please read the sentence once again: BFG evolved around Zope 3, which primarily utilize certain library packages from Zope 3 and don't make use of the Zope 3 application server. We don't claim anything you said here. Each words are used very carefully. Well, I added two more sentences at the beginning: The aim of this document is to show the position of BlueBream in the wider Zope ecosystem. Disclaimer: What is written about other projects should be taken with a pinch of salt, as we are not the maintainers of those projects. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: Please read the sentence once again: BFG evolved around Zope 3, which primarily utilize certain library packages from Zope 3 and don't make use of the Zope 3 application server. We don't claim anything you said here. Each words are used very carefully. Well, I added two more sentences at the beginning: The aim of this document is to show the position of BlueBream in the wider Zope ecosystem. Disclaimer: What is written about other projects should be taken with a pinch of salt, as we are not the maintainers of those projects. FTR, now Chris McDonough contributed new digram an updated text to include ZCA in picture. Thanks Chris ! Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] [BlueBream] Request for a mailing list
Hi, BlueBream need a mailing list to co-ordinate documentation efforts. May be the scope could be expanded later, if required. Can anyone point me the details about how to create it ? I would prefer bluebr...@zope.org And I would prefer the mailman admin user as mbaiju AT zeomega.com Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [BlueBream] Request for a mailing list
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Done: you are good to go. Thanks ! -- Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [BlueBream] bluebream.zope.org is up
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: Hi All, New sub-domain for BlueBream is up and running: http://bluebream.zope.org/ FTR, I have setup a temporary mirror site for myself, here: http://bluebream.muthukadan.net/ This actually helps me to review the content as soon as it is committed. The official site is updated only once in a day (this is very long time for me). I learned mobile phone with net connection is very good for reviewing documentation :) Due to the limitation for making changes to content from mobile, we will get time for thinking. Another advantage for me with this site is, I can tweet as soon as there is some progress: http://twitter.com/bluebream Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] [BlueBream] bluebream.zope.org is up
Hi All, New sub-domain for BlueBream is up and running: http://bluebream.zope.org/ Thanks Jens for setting up this! If anyone want to look into the documentation, you can get it here: svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/bluebream/website Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] patterns for using sphinx with the Zope Toolkit?
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: I am interested in creating sphinx-driven documentation for Zope Toolkit packages. I'd like to maintain the documentation for a package (say, zope.component) in that package, in a 'doc' directory. I have a couple of packages that make good use of the my current pattern-that-I'm-aiming-for-with-all-my-packages: http://packages.python.org/testfixtures/ http://packages.python.org/checker/ I would support adding documentation to packages.python.org It's very easy as Chris show. I am also using a similar pattern for BlueBream. This is how I am uploading documentation for BlueBream: ./bin/sphinxbuilder;./bin/buildout setup . upload_sphinx You can see the Buildout here: http://svn.zope.org/bluebream/trunk/ In setup.cfg, we can mention the upload-dir option like this: [upload_sphinx] upload-dir = docs/output/html BTW, to upload docs, no need to make a new release. Anyone who is having ownership can upload docs. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Stepping back as Zope 2 release manager
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, I would like to inform you that I intent to retreat from the Zope 2 release manager position soon. I have been serving the Zope community in this position for almost seven years and now it is time to move on and hand over the responsibility to some other person. The reasons for stepping down are pretty easy: I am too busy with other things and I would like to shift my focus on other Zope-related projects but I will remain part of the Zope and Plone community. Thanks for the great Zope releases! I am grateful to meet you at PyCON 2009. WIth thanks and regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Adapter registration in ZCML provides IUserPreferredCharsets lost ?
Hi All, There was an adapter registration provides IUserPreferredCharsets. I can see it has moved to zope.i18n.locales with some others here: http://svn.zope.org/zope.app.i18n/trunk/src/zope/app/i18n/configure.zcml?rev=98208r1=95495r2=98208 But, I cannot see it ever reached here ? http://svn.zope.org/zope.i18n/trunk/src/zope/i18n/locales/configure.zcml?rev=75140view=log Can I add it there ? Instead of zope.app.publisher.browser.ModifiableBrowserLanguages, I will use the new location: zope.publisher.browser.ModifiableBrowserLanguages Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Adapter registration in ZCML provides IUserPreferredCharsets lost ?
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: Hi All, There was an adapter registration provides IUserPreferredCharsets. I can see it has moved to zope.i18n.locales with some others here: http://svn.zope.org/zope.app.i18n/trunk/src/zope/app/i18n/configure.zcml?rev=98208r1=95495r2=98208 But, I cannot see it ever reached here ? http://svn.zope.org/zope.i18n/trunk/src/zope/i18n/locales/configure.zcml?rev=75140view=log Can I add it there ? Instead of zope.app.publisher.browser.ModifiableBrowserLanguages, I will use the new location: zope.publisher.browser.ModifiableBrowserLanguages This will make zope.publisher as dependency for zope.i18n, which may not be a good idea. Please suggest me where we will move this ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 07:18, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs Heh, nice! :-) Except that the song in this clip is what weddings in Brazil traditionally play in the part where the bride walks down the aisle with her father. I kept expecting to see either a bride in white gown or another wedding reference to appear somewhere on the video :-) Today I just checked what music I used there, it looks like a very famous music related to wedding written 1842: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_March_(Mendelssohn) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Mendelssohn Regard, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Technical Decisions
Hi All, Here are few technical decisions I made so far: http://svn.zope.org/bluebream/trunk/docs/source/notes.txt?view=markup Looking for your feedback and comments. - BlueBream is a web framework. - BlueBream can be called as Bream or BB for short. - The only public API exposed by bluebream - the package is an entry point:: paste.paster_create_template: [bluebream = bluebream.template:BlueBream] The implementation of bluebream template is defined in bluebream.template.BlueBream. The template implementation location could be changed if required later. This leaves us an option to change bluebream as a namespace package if required. - All the framework code will be using zope or zope.app namespace packages. Although bream could be considerd as a namespace package in future. - bluebream the project consists - documentation - compatibility test suite - project template May be documentation and compatibility test suite could be separated out to separate locations/packages later. - BlueBream 1.0 should provide an upgradation path from Zope 3.4 ZTK - Any shell command which developer need to repeat later should not be automated by the project template. - Running ``bootstrap.py`` and ``buildout`` inside project should not be added to project template creation for the previous reason. A suporting reason why it should not be added is to make adding sources to version controlling system should not be difficult. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Technical Decisions
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: Hi All, Here are few technical decisions I made so far: http://svn.zope.org/bluebream/trunk/docs/source/notes.txt?view=markup I have changed few wordings and committed, please look at updated one. I still need to improve my English :) Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] BlueBream Wave (Online Documentation Collaboration Using Google Wave)
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke juhase...@googlemail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.01.10 04:23, Baiju M wrote: I started a BlueBream Wave on Google Wave. You are welcome to join. Cool. But you know that there is no way to delete a wave and to make a public wave private again? Thanks for the info. I hope we need not to make it private ever. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 07:18, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 04:56, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs Heh, nice! :-) Except that the song in this clip is what weddings in Brazil traditionally play in the part where the bride walks down the aisle with her father. I kept expecting to see either a bride in white gown or another wedding reference to appear somewhere on the video :-) I am fan of brazilian samba music, may be we should try it next time :) or I should look for some music here in India. BTW, to create that video it took only few minutes for me using the http://animoto.com Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] BlueBream Wave (Online Documentation Collaboration Using Google Wave)
Hi All, I started a BlueBream Wave on Google Wave. You are welcome to join. More details are here: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/BlueBreamWave This is a wave for collaborating on documentation for BlueBream. I will make this wave public whenever I come online. The invited members can also do the same. Please don't add easypublic or any similar bots which makes it permenantly public. You can find the wave by searching with:public bluebream in your Google Wave search bar. This weekend I am planning to write some documentation. P.S: This weekend I am not going to my native place (Kerala), so I will be here in Bangalore. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Gustavo Rahal gra...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: P.S - As a ibm employee, there is already too much blue going on in my day to day work :) I am not a native English speaker. So, blue is used in more negative contexts ? Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: BTW, the original meaning of BlueBream is same as that of Zope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramis_ballerus Cute! FTR, I will be shortening BlueBream to BB. I agree that the nickname Bream is OK, but that the full name should be BlueBream. Lastly I'll say, We are BlueBream consultants has a nice ring to it. I.e. it's marketable. ;-) Creating promotional materials also would be cool :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG5Qee5wbs Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
Hi All, Thanks to all those who participated in this discussion so far. I will try to make baby steps for the project. So, for time being I will focus on the getting started story (which is somewhat ready) then documentation, a small website ( http://bluebream.zope.org ) and before 1.0 release, an upgradation path from Zope 3.4 KGS. I am fine with calling the project as Bream for short, however BlueBream will remain. But all the framework specific packages will remain in zope and zope.app namespaces. May be we can think about bream as a namespace in future. I remember the days when I started contributing to Zope project. Zope developers were eagerly started looking at the larger Python community with cool technologies emerging out of it like WSGI, egg, Paste and other web frameworks. As a first step for adoption, eggification of Zope 3 packages was in radar for many contributors. I am glad that I was able to accelerate the project by creating a proposal: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2006-October/020858.html To further accelerate the eggification of zope.app packages, I implemented Jim Fulton's proposal: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2006-December/021352.html (BTW, This is the greatest appraisal I ever received from a FOSS community) With all the contributors effort, Zope 3 packages became more reusable by other projects. But the Zope 3 users were at a loss, they lost their main development discussion platform itself (zope3-dev list) and there was no releases. Then Stephan Richter created Zope 3.4 KGS, that was a good move which helped the existense. For a sucessfull web framework, few packages maintained by people with different interest in not sufficient. With BlueBream/Bream, I hope we will be able to bring together the framework developer community again. I appreciate all your support for this project. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] new zope.schema and zope.configuration releases
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: FYI, I just made two new releases: zope.schema 3.6.1 zope.configuration 3.7.1 These releases provide basic compatibility with Jython. Congrats! this is great step towards supporting other Python implementations. I suggest everyone who release ZTK packages send a notification mail to zope-dev list. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] upload zope.app.exception to pypi
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman janwijbr...@gmail.com wrote: hello, Would any of the pypi owners of zope.app.exception be so kind to upload the 3.6.0 release to the package index? I see this package has been tagged already a while ago. I think this newer version should also be included in the ZTK versions list, as this version will import the correct ISystemErrorView interface from zope.browser. I have added jw as owner of this package. BTW, I am getting this error from 3.6.0 branch.: $ ./bin/test /opt/baiju/wa/z3hello/eggs/zope.testing-3.8.6-py2.6.egg/zope/testing/testrunner/debug.py:23: DeprecationWarning: zope.testing.doctest is deprecated in favour of the Python standard library doctest module from zope.testing import doctest Test-module import failures: Module: zope.app.exception.browser.tests.test_unauthorized Traceback (most recent call last): File /tmp/zope.app.exception/src/zope/app/exception/browser/tests/test_unauthorized.py, line 20, in module import zope.app.pagetemplate.namedtemplate File /opt/baiju/wa/z3hello/eggs/zope.app.pagetemplate-3.10.0-py2.6.egg/zope/app/pagetemplate/namedtemplate.py, line 20, in module from zope.browerpage.namedtemplate import implementation ImportError: No module named browerpage.namedtemplate Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] release and upload zope.app.pagetemplate to pypi
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman janwijbr...@gmail.com wrote: hello, Would any of the owners of zope.app.pagetemplate be so kind to upload (or let me upload) a new version of zope.app.pagetemplate? Added jw as owner. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Announce] BlueBream: Script to setup a Zope project directory
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2010, Baiju M wrote: I started a project named BlueBream to create a script to setup a Zope project directory. BlueBream use ZTK with some additional packages. BlueBream is based on PasteScript's template plugin. Thanks! This is a great first step for the new Zope 3, as you mentioned. With MArtijn's work on the ZTK and the zopeapp extension, I think we we will be soon able to do new reborn Zope 3 projects and releases. Thanks for the encouraging words. We have more things to do. As the next step, I will move the project from sandbox to main area. Also I will try to setup a compatibility test environment using z3c.recipe.compattest recipe. I hope we will be able make a migration path from Zope 3.4 ZTK to the new released packages. The most important thing will be documentation. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Announce] BlueBream: Script to setup a Zope project directory
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: I hope we will be able make a migration path from Zope 3.4 ZTK to the new released packages. Err. I mean Zope 3.4 KGS Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] New Zope 3 name: BlueBream
Hi All, I am proposing to call Zope 3 - the web frame work as BlueBream. The main use for name is documentation. But the package named bluebream will not provide any part of framework code by itself. All the framework code will be in zope and zope.app namespaces. BTW, the original meaning of BlueBream is same as that of Zope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramis_ballerus Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] [Announce] BlueBream: Script to setup a Zope project directory
Hi All, I started a project named BlueBream to create a script to setup a Zope project directory. BlueBream use ZTK with some additional packages. BlueBream is based on PasteScript's template plugin. The package is available from PyPI: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/bluebream Source code is available from my Sandbox: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Sandbox/baijum/bluebream/trunk Looking for your feedback. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Announce] BlueBream: Script to setup a Zope project directory
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: How is this different from ZopeSkel? Well, it's just yet another PasteScript project template. BlueBream provides a slightly different layout compared to basic_zope . Here are few features: 1. BlueBream project package includes ZTK + few additional packages which was part of Zope 3. 2. Runnable Buildout 3. Functional testing enabled by default using z3c.testsetup 4. Use PasteDeploy 5. Create a namespace package by default. To use: $ easy_install bluebream $ paster create -t bluebream testproject $ cd testproject $ python bootstrap.py $ ./bin/buidout $ ./bin/test $ ./bin/paster serve debug.ini Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Announce] BlueBream: Script to setup a Zope project directory
Hi Alex, Thanks for the feedback. I will look into the bugs you pointed out. On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: [snip] Another obvious question (sorry ;-), why not just contribute to ZopeSkel (which is currently in need of some active contributors, IIRC)? I felt ZopeSkel scope is very large. ZopeSkel is a great project for its users. BlueBream is Prepare the way for born-again Zope 3. BlueBream could be a getting started story for Born-again Zope 3. If desired, it could adopt the project name as BlueBream itself. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Announce] BlueBream: Script to setup a Zope project directory
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: Also, there are a few installation issues (fixed by running `mkdir -p` by hand): http://pastie.org/765137 http://pastie.org/765140 On a closer look, this error puzzling me. The var and its sub-folders are already existing in the source. But when I run setuptools sdist command, its missing from the tar ball. I have these two options in my setup.py: packages=find_packages(src), include_package_data=True, Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope] exUserFolder and Zope 2.12
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:12 AM, William Heymann k...@aesaeion.com wrote:
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Andrew Milton wrote:
+---[ Baiju M ]--
| Hi,
| In exUserFolder there are few exceptions raised like this:
|
| raise 'LoginRequired', self.docLogin(self, request)
|
| This will not working in Zope 2.12 (Python 2.6)
|
| Any idea, how to change it ?
Replace the raise with;
request.RESPONSE.setStatus(401)
request.RESPONSE.setHeader('Content-Type','text/html')
request.RESPONSE.write(self.docLogin(self,request))
I just tried that and it works in Firefox, Chrome and Opera but it is failing
in IE and Konqueror. I tried a few versions of each of these browsers and
the results are consistent. I don't see why it is failing though.
I tried exactly what is up there along with also trying self.docLoginRedirect
instead of docLogin. I used wireshark to watch the connection and I don't see
anything wrong with it.
FYI, the solution suggested by Andrew worked for us in IE FF.
Regards,
Baiju M
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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/src/DocumentTemplate/sequence/tests/testSequence.py remove unused imports
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[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/src/DocumentTemplate/sequence/__init__.py SortEx only import what is defined inside zope.sequencesort.ssort
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Re: [Zope-dev] Top-level namespace package for Zope 2 ?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: I was going through Zope 2 source code today. There are 20+ top-level packages specific to Zope 2. Would it be useful if we move those packages to a top-level namespace package. I mean something similar to: zope.app.*, grokcore.*, repoze.bfg.* ? What would be the advantage of that? It'd break every single existing import. Most of those packages aren't reusable in the wild and shouldn't be released outside of the Zope2 distribution. The packages that we might want to break out (like we did with Acquistion, ExtensionClass, DateTime) should retain their name, so nobody has to change any code to work with them. I think we could have added those packages in a namespace. What if we want to extract similar things out of Zope 2 core. For example DTML related things could be extracted out of Zope 2 core. I guess we are planning to improve the WSGI story of Zope 2, in addition to creating new packages, we will be required to re-factor existing code for this. I hope these kind of refactoring would be much easier with namespace packages. One of the major contributing factor why we were able to create a nice ZTK out of Zope 3 is the use of namespace. There are few more important factors: - We should not clutter top-level names with Zope 2 specific packages This is very important in the context of new distribution mechanism we adopted (egg, PyPI). Courtesy to other PyPI users ? - Branding Zope technologies is also very important. Yes, Zope is still a good brand :) - Some of the things mentioned in this blog by Martin Aspelli: http://www.martinaspeli.net/articles/the-naming-of-things-package-names-and-namespaces PEP 20: Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.contenttype on PyPI is messed up
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Fabio Tranchitella kob...@kobold.it wrote: Can somebody please fix zope.contettype on PyPI? We had a 3.5.0 release, and somebody uploaded a 3.4.3 release which should have been 3.5.1. I don't have the rights for it. I just added kobold as owner. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/src/zExceptions/ITracebackSupplement.py fix import error
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