Re: [Zope-dev] GitHub and Travis CI

2013-03-05 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Le 04/03/13 20:00, Stephan Richter a écrit :

Hi everyone,

I have invested some time today to implement the Travis CI hook setup for
GitHub. I can now turn on and update Travis CI for any package.



See the ``README.rst`` file.


I did the same in z3c.taskqueue and five.taskqueue that Stephan very 
nicely migrated for me.


Thanks to you, Stephan !
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Foundation patch policy

2012-10-16 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Le 09/10/12 09:39, Jens Vagelpohl a écrit :

Hi all,

During the discussion about new ways to host and manage code in Zope Foundation 
repositories one omission we had never really addressed became clear: What is 
the status of patches reaching us by people who have not signed the contributor 
agreement, e.g. code uploaded to issue trackers, or code checked into Zope 
Foundation repositories by people other than the original authors? We need to 
have guidelines that ensure that we don't end up with code exclusively owned by 
third parties where no ownership assignment has taken place in our repositories.

Fortunately the Plone Foundation has considered this exact issue before us and 
we took their well-written patch policy[1] and adapted it for our own use. 
Thanks to the Plone Foundation board and all those who drafted their policy.

The Zope Foundation board has voted on adopting the following text as the 
official Zope Foundation patch policy, binding for all Zope Foundation 
contributors (PDF alert):

http://foundation.zope.org/agreements/ZopeFoundation_Patch_Policy.pdf

Jens Vagelpohl



Thanks a lot to the board of having taken time and energy to fix this 
omission.


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[Zope-dev] response.status is not set properly when Zope2 publication failure events are notified

2011-09-12 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hi,

Short story :

response.status is not set when PubBeforeAbort and PubFailure events are 
notified.

Any code in the event handlers trying to use response.status always gets 
200 even though an exception has happened.

Longer story :

publish function in ZPublisher.Publish.py is notifiying all publication 
events ZPublisher.interfaces.IPubEvent.

It is called by publish_module_standard function which is in charge of 
transforming exceptions into HTTP status by calling response.exception().

However, this happens after the publishing events have been notified.

IOW, when failure events (PubBeforeAbort and PubFailure) are notified, 
request.status is still 200 :-(

Proposal attempt:

First, a disclaimer : there are so many nested try except, try finally 
in publish and publish_module_standard functions that I am sure I do not 
fully understand the code. However, I'll state my thoughts as a starting 
point.

I have the feeling that moving the call to response.exception() into the 
publish function before the events are notified would break a lot of 
code. Maybe we could just move the setStatus() call made in 
response.exception().

We might move the notification of PubFailure to response.exception(). 
However, its semantics would then change slightly and it is not obvious 
which exc_info would then be passed to the event.

I'd appreciate feedback on this issue.
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Re: [Zope-dev] More information in case of ZCML conflict errors

2011-08-10 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Le 02/08/11 15:29, Sylvain Viollon a écrit :

 Hello,

 I spend a long time trying to understand why I could not override a
 component in ZCML and debug the error.

 First, includeOverrides doesn't include any overriding registration.
 At least not like you would expect. At best It can be used to include a 
 package
 in the site.zcml that would conflict with an another, replacing the 
 conflicting actions
 by his own.

 After I would love, when there is a conflict error in ZCML to have a bit 
 more
 of information other than what we currently have: like which file include 
 which file
 and so up to the conflicting actions. As I pdb through this conflict, I 
 see that
 all this information is already there, it is just not included in the 
 exception nor
 displayed to the user.

 This information can be found in zope.configuration.config line 1517, in
 the variable includepath and basepath. This just need to be added to the
 exception.

 Since I work with Zope and ZCML, having those informations to debug
 conflict errors would have saved me days of works, at least.

 My issue was that an another package was already including the package 
 that contained
 actions I wanted to override, so even if I wanted to include it myself in 
 order to
 override its actions, it would not be included since it already have been 
 included.

 Finally, I think a bit of documentation on ZCML conflict errors would 
 help a lot
 everybody.

 Regards,

 Sylvain,


I bumped recently on the exact same issue.

I totally agree with your statements.

I think it is really worth changing the message issued by the 
configuration conflict errors.

I hope I will be able to work on this in the coming weeks.

Sylvain, I'll let you know.
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Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

2011-05-10 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Le 10/05/11 10:47, Hanno Schlichting a écrit :
 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com  wrote:
 I am happy to announce that we have made progress
 with the zope.org relaunch project. The first public
 version of the new site is now available under

 http://beta.zope.org

 Constructive criticism and feedback is welcome _now_.

 Thanks all of you for the great work. It is much appreciated!

 Hanno

I want to support that statement ! :-)

Great work !

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope test layers, pytest, and test isolation

2011-03-24 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hi Uli,

I am happy that some people started to look what is needed to make 
modular component registrations with py.test.

The long explanation that you wrote made it easy for me to jump into 
funcargs.

Those last months, I have been diving into the great plone.testing 
package written by Martin Aspeli.

Among others, plone.testing has a very nice module zca.py to ease 
building zope.testing layers that need ZCA.

See 
https://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/plone.testing/trunk/src/plone/testing/zca.py

Specifically, pushGlobalRegistry and popGlobalRegistry are a pair of 
functions that allow to make registrations step by step, while easily 
throwing away the latest registrations when they are not needed anymore.

plone.testing does not depend on Zope2 even if it comes with support for 
building Zope2 layers.

Le 24/03/11 01:05, Uli Fouquet a écrit :
 Compared to Zope test layers I came to the conclusion that there is not
 much like this concept already in `pytest` and the behaviour of test
 layers can not easily be faked. `pytest` provides only the three
 mentioned scopes as kind of 'natural' layers. Spreading fixtures over
 many modules (as layers easily do) might contradict with the basic
 design goals of pytest and I am pretty sure that Holge Krekel wouldn't
 like it.

I do not agree with that last statement : the fact that resources can be 
cached during a session allows them to be reused over many modules. IOW, 
it does not contradict pytest design.

Digging into funcargs gives me the feeling that they are much richer 
than layers.
Because funcargs are functions that get access to a lot of context, they 
allow for more flexibility than layers that are only static resources.

 Overall, we're now looking for a satisfying solution in terms of runtime
 and isolation. Some of the questions that arise:

My feeling is that the extrakey argument of cached_setup can be used in 
combination with code similar to plone.testing ZCA support to build 
something satisfying in terms of runtime and isolation.


 Would it make sense to bring the Zope layer concept into `pytest`?

I think what is already available in py.test might avoid the need of layers.

 Are there already possibilities to mimic testlayer-like behaviour in
 `pytest` which we simply overlooked?

See above.


 Are there cheap/fast ways to cache/restore registry setups we hadn't had
 on the screen? Really fast setups/cache-restores could make even
 function-wise registrations a considerable thing.

 Would it simply be okay to use the 'module' scope for registration
 setups?

 Or do you have completely different ideas how to solve that issue?

 Any comments are really appreciated!

 Best regards,

 -- Uli


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[Zope-dev] string exceptions

2011-02-25 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hi,

I find a few string exceptions leftover in Zope 2.13 code.

However, they are not allowed anymore in Python 2.6.

I guess that the remaining string exceptions are in dead/semidead code.

What practice has been followed until now regarding fixing those 
exceptions ?

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Re: [Zope-dev] string exceptions

2011-02-25 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Le 25/02/11 12:03, Laurence Rowe a écrit :
 On 25 February 2011 10:58, Godefroid Chapellegot...@bubblenet.be  wrote:
 Hi,

 I find a few string exceptions leftover in Zope 2.13 code.

 However, they are not allowed anymore in Python 2.6.

 I guess that the remaining string exceptions are in dead/semidead code.

 What practice has been followed until now regarding fixing those
 exceptions ?

 According to this doc,
 http://docs.python.org/c-api/exceptions.html#deprecation-of-string-exceptions

 String exceptions are still supported in the interpreter to allow
 existing code to run unmodified, but this will also change in a future
 release.

 It will of course be important to fix these before we move to Python
 3.x, but I would expect that the dead/semidead code will not be
 ported.

 Laurence

I just tried to run the code hereunder with Python 2.6.5:

def main():
 raise Abc

main()

This is what I get :

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File test.py, line 4, in module
 main()
   File test.py, line 2, in main
 raise Abc
TypeError: exceptions must be old-style classes or derived from 
BaseException, not str

I am not sure what the documentation above means but it seems to be text 
that was not fixed...
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Re: [Zope-dev] string exceptions

2011-02-25 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Le 25/02/11 12:03, Hanno Schlichting a écrit :
 I find a few string exceptions leftover in Zope 2.13 code.
 
   What practice has been followed until now regarding fixing those
   exceptions ?
 Just upgrade them to new-style exception classes. Since string
 exceptions cannot possibly work anymore, we cannot make things worse
 by fixing them.

 Hanno

What about deciding to kill that code ?

I guess it is a bit early because not enough people did migrate to 2.12 
or later.

Where should those fixes happen ?

2.13 branch and trunk I suppose

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[Zope-dev] ConnectionStateError

2011-01-12 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hello,

We have been experiencing some ConnectionStateError in a Zope 2 based 
application.

Looking for info on the web makes me almost 100% sure that we have a bug 
in our application layer.

I understand that I should look for persistent objects stored in module 
or class level variables (which imply shared by threads and thus 
connections). Do not hesitate to tell me if this is a wrong explanation 
of the potential cause of ConnectionStateError.

However, I wonder if some of you could give debugging techniques outside 
reviewing the code.

I also wonder what was the reason to deprecate ``zope.thread``. I see it 
was used by ``zope.component`` to hold thread-safe siteinfo. Could a too 
frequent usage of getSite lead to ConnectionStateError ? I think that it 
is not the case but I prefer to ask.

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Re: [Zope-dev] ConnectionStateError

2011-01-12 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Le 12/01/11 17:06, Hanno Schlichting a écrit :
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Godefroid Chapellegot...@bubblenet.be  
 wrote:
 I understand that I should look for persistent objects stored in module
 or class level variables (which imply shared by threads and thus
 connections). Do not hesitate to tell me if this is a wrong explanation
 of the potential cause of ConnectionStateError.

 However, I wonder if some of you could give debugging techniques outside
 reviewing the code.

Thanks for help from anyone.

Once debugged, I'll blog how I found the bug.

 Do you get the classic: Shouldn't load state for %s when the
 connection is closed or one of the The database connection is
 closed errors?

 In the first case you get the p_oid, which you can load from the
 database to give you some clue on what class it is.

I had no clue that the number in the error message was the p_oid. I 
could have found out by reading the code.

Nevertheless, I propose to make the error message more self-explanatory.

 Typical problems include using plone.memoize decorators on things
 without knowing where exactly the cache is stored or as someone else
 noted registering persistent objects in the global site manager
 instead of the local one. The global one is of course just a module
 global data structure in the end.

 Hanno

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema validation can create read/write conflicts

2010-12-25 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Le 24/12/10 13:03, Souheil CHELFOUH a écrit :
 Done and commited.

Thanks !

 If anyone can and want to release, it's ready.

3.7.1 released.

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[Zope-dev] z3c.table and z3c.batching PYPI access

2010-08-20 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hi,

jfroche and I will need to make releases of z3c.table and z3c.batching.

Can someone grant me access on PYPI ?

Thanks

userid: gotcha
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[Zope-dev] New release of z3c.form

2010-07-01 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hi z3c.form fathers ;-)

jfroche and I added a widget manager that enables mixing content 
providers inbetween widgets when rendering forms.

We merged our branch to trunk :

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.all-cvs/43663

We would like a new release of z3c.form.
Can you give us access rights to PyPI ?
Or can you make the release ?

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Re: [Zope-dev] New release of z3c.form

2010-07-01 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Le 01/07/10 14:16, Godefroid Chapelle a écrit :
 Hi z3c.form fathers ;-)

 jfroche and I added a widget manager that enables mixing content
 providers inbetween widgets when rendering forms.

 We merged our branch to trunk :

 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.all-cvs/43663

 We would like a new release of z3c.form.
 Can you give us access rights to PyPI ?
 Or can you make the release ?

 Regards,

Adam gave me access...

Before doing a release, I checked the web for documentation.

I found http://docs.zope.org/z3c.form/

Last updated Nov 08,2009 Version 1.8.2dev.

What is the process to get the latest version published ?

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Re: [Zope-dev] New release of z3c.form

2010-07-01 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Le 01/07/10 14:53, Stephan Richter a écrit :
 On Thursday, July 01, 2010, Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
 I found http://docs.zope.org/z3c.form/

 Last updated Nov 08,2009 Version 1.8.2dev.

 What is the process to get the latest version published ?

 Not sure. I think Paul Carduner did that. Since z3c.form is Sphinx-enabled, I
 wonder whether we could stick the docs into
 http://packages.python.org/z3c.form.

 Manuel does this already:

 http://packages.python.org/manuel/

 Regards,
 Stephan

Done

http://packages.python.org/z3c.form

Who will get rid of http://docs.zope.org/z3c.form/ ?

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Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-18 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 17/04/10 23:20, Tres Seaver wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Jim Fulton wrote:

snip


 - I can almost guarantee that any examples that aren't tested will be
 wrong. I tried to do a good job on the bobo docs.  I made almost all
 of the examples executable, and the ones I didn't had an amazing
 tendency to have bugs.

 I'm not against having the snippets be executable, because I *do* want
 them to work.  I just don't want to encourage anyone to think that they
 are testing the software when they write the snippets, or execute them.

I second Martin: the sentence hereunder is worth its weight in gold.

(I wonder if this is an appropriate use of the translation of French 
valoir son pesant d'or)

Executing the snippets is testing the documentation, not the software.


 - I agree that tests should be separate from documentation. You can
 get some of your coverage from the docs, but you'll need tests for
 edge cases and details not addressed by the docs.

 I would actually prefer to measure coverage (objectively) without
 reference to the snippets in the docs.

I think this would make a lot of sense.

 Having *all* the tests for a
 module in one place helps think more clearly about getting good
 coverage, both from the lines executed standpoint (which can be
 objectively measured) and from the semantics enforced standpoint,
 which can't.
 
 
  Tres.

With both unit and doc testing, we can get full lines executed coverage.

Because of the insulation enforced by our unit testing framework, this 
can lead to better semantic coverage than with the dependent tests we 
write when doc testing.

One of the reason that full lines executed coverage does not translate 
to full semantics coverage is the presence of class attributes. In 
fact, those attributes are holding sub-global state that multiplies 
the number of combinations that should be tested.

I slowly have come to the idea that class attributes can be as bad as 
global variables : they allow hidden dependencies between methods. This 
is an insidious problem as class attributes look better until you are 
told other.

A good sign that this problem is creeping in is when you need to write 
complex setup in order to write method tests.

In other words, unit testing can be seen as a way of being warned early 
of too many attributes in our classes.

PS: Hereabove, I speak only of the insulated semantics of each class. 
This does not remove the need for integration tests which *try* to test 
all interactions between those classes.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 - Release Manager

2010-03-31 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 31/03/10 17:07, Tres Seaver wrote:
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 Hanno Schlichting wrote:

snip



 I'm planning to make a 2.12.4 release on Easter Monday (April 5). You
 have until then to ask questions and complain :)

 An enthusiastic +1 from me:  I think you are an ideal candidate for the job.


 Tres Seaver

Same enthusiastic support and thanks from me !

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Re: [Zope-dev] Summary of this weeks' meeting (2010-03-30)

2010-03-31 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 31/03/10 17:17, Christian Theune wrote:
 The meeting summaries have been found useful, although the participants of the
 IRC meetings suspect that those developers that could not join may find them
 even more useful. Feedback from the mailinglist (hey, are you reading this?)
 would be welcome.

I am reading them ! And pleased that the meetings happen.

Thanks Christian

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Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-18 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 16/03/10 14:28, Christian Theune wrote:

snip

 Horizon
 ---

 These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them
 at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

 - Test runners / nightly builds
- Volunteer for coordinating automated builds
- Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds
  for
- Automatic binary egg builds for Windows
- Access to Windows (2003) build machines for developers (Baiju M.)

 - Bug tracking / working on bugs regularly

 - How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility?
(Lennart Regebro)

 - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
McDonough)

 Hope to see you in about 90 minutes,
 Christian

As far as I know, Zope 2 has no release manager since Andreas retired 
after so many years of hard work.

I think there is a need for a new release manager.

Is that question part of the horizon of the IRC meetings ?
Or is it processed elsewhere ?

Thanks for taking the time of leading those meetings.

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[Zope-dev] lovely.remotetask

2010-02-05 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hi,

Jean-Francois Roche and I need to port lovely.remotetask to Zope 2.
We have started to look at the existing branch port-for-zope210.
In order to clean the branch, we made a buildout to run its tests.

Doing this, we found out that lovely.remotetask has some ui components 
that depends heavily on zope.app.

We would like to refactor the package into two packages :

The first one would hold backend components and would depend on zope.app 
as little as possible.  (z3c.remotetask.core)

The second one would hold the ui components. (z3c.remotetask.browser)

We would also refactor lovely.remotetask to depend on the new packages.

Comments welcome.

PS: Lovely people, do you mind that the new packages would move to z3c 
namespace iow that it looses the lovely namespace ?
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Re: [Zope-dev] Stepping back as Zope 2 release manager

2010-01-11 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 11/01/10 17:19, Andreas Jung wrote:
 Hi there,

 I would like to inform you that I intent to retreat from the Zope 2
 release manager position soon. I have been serving the Zope community in
 this position for almost seven years and now it is time to move on and
 hand
 over the responsibility to some other person. The reasons for stepping
 down
 are pretty easy: I am too busy with other things and I would like to
 shift my
 focus on other Zope-related projects but I will remain part of the
 Zope and
 Plone community.

 The Zope community has no official process for choosing a new release
 manager so
 I assume some volunteer has to speak up or someone may suggest a
 honorable person
 of the Zope community for the position.


 Regards,
 Andreas

Andreas, you made more than great work ! Thanks a lot.

Has the Zope Foundation any will of leading the process to choose a new 
release manager ?
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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema

2009-12-22 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 22/12/09 15:09, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Godefroid Chapelle
 got...@bubblenet.be  wrote:
 Jean-Francois and I made a few improvements to zope.schema.

 Would it be possible to get a new release ?

 You have a new 3.6.0 release up on PyPi.

 Hanno

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema

2009-12-22 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 22/12/09 17:23, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Godefroid Chapellegot...@bubblenet.be  
 wrote:
 On 22/12/09 15:09, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Godefroid Chapelle
 got...@bubblenet.bewrote:
 Jean-Francois and I made a few improvements to zope.schema.

 You have a new 3.6.0 release up on PyPi.

 I also made the required changes in all the other Zope Toolkit
 packages to the new testing output, released new versions of them all
 and updated the ZTK.

 Merry x-mas :)
 Hanno

This is a nice x-mas gift ! Thanks for the work. I had overlooked fixes 
needed in other packages.

Is there a buildout you can point me at so that next time I get warned 
and do those fixes myself ?

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema

2009-12-22 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 22/12/09 17:55, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Godefroid Chapellegot...@bubblenet.be  
 wrote:
 On 22/12/09 17:23, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 I also made the required changes in all the other Zope Toolkit
 packages to the new testing output, released new versions of them all
 and updated the ZTK.

 This is a nice x-mas gift ! Thanks for the work. I had overlooked fixes
 needed in other packages.

 Is there a buildout you can point me at so that next time I get warned and
 do those fixes myself ?

 We only have a buildbot testing the ZTK itself. The ZTK does not track
 SVN trunk or the latest release of all its packages. Instead it
 tracks a defined list of versions of these packages, which are known
 to work together.

 It's definition lives at svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zopetoolkit/trunk

 So if you want to be nice, you check and build out that location. Make
 your changes to the package you are working on, stick it into that
 buildout as a develop egg and run all tests for all packages via
 bin/test-ztk.

 If all tests for all packages pass, you can release a new version of
 the package and update the ztk.cfg in the buildout to point to that
 release.

 I frequently do that the other way around, where I first release new
 versions of packages, then update the ztk.cfg locally. Run the tests
 and if errors in other packages come up, fix those, make new releases
 of those, and repeat the dance.

 The important rule is, that the SVN trunk of the ztk.cfg will at all
 times give a test-failure free configuration. But as a contributor to
 an individual package, you are not required to care about the ZTK as a
 whole. You can contribute to one of them, without all the overhead.
 Other people like me have an interest in maintaining the ZTK and will
 do so.

 Cheers,
 Hanno

Thanks for all details. I dunno if this is documented somewhere else.
If it is not, where could that be added to help newcomers ?

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[Zope-dev] zope.schema

2009-12-21 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hi,

Jean-Francois and I made a few improvements to zope.schema.

Would it be possible to get a new release ?

Or to give us access on Pypi so that we can make it ourselves ?

Thanks
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Re: [Zope-dev] the ZCA API decision

2009-12-03 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Martijn Faassen wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I think we've had enough discussion to make a decision. Hopefully 
 everybody is at least reasonably happy with this:
 
 An adapt() method will be added to Interface. It takes the objects to 
 adapt as *args, and optional but explicit 'default' and 'name' aguments.
 
 A utility() method will be added to Interface. It takes optional but 
 explicit 'default' and 'name' arguments.
 
 On the adapter hook (__call__) we will deprecate the implicit second 
 argument for defaults, with a deprecation warning. Instead, we will 
 require people to write out 'default=' explicitly. Otherwise its 
 behavior remains unchanged. I think we can motivate this change purely 
 because IFoo(bar, baz) really is quite surprising compared to IFoo(bar, 
 default=baz).

I tried to follow this discussion closely: however, I cannot say that I 
understand if doing multi-adaptation with IFoo(bar, baz, boo) has been 
rejected or postponed.

 [steering group members, if you are really unhappy with this, please 
 speak up now. Silence is assent. :)]
 
 Hopefully we can move forward towards implementation.
 
 Thomas Lotze, are you happy enough with this to still help with the 
 implementation?
 
 Thanks everybody for your participation in the discussion!
 
 Regards,
 
 Martijn


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Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-12-01 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Fred Drake wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I think
 that logically, these are two different concepts that meet two different
 sets of use cases.
 
 Agreed here.  This is essential to this discussion.
 
 I've been quite surprised that there are so many who argue to unify these 
 ideas.
 
 
   -Fred
 

Agreed here as well.

I think that the different intentions of

1) lookup by interface in registry and

2) adaptation

will be easier to understand if the code patterns are different as well.



Because I doubt tuple adaptation is that frequent, I am for

 5) Call the interface for adaption, and something else for utility
 lookup, with tuples for multi-adaptation.

where the something else is 'Interface.getUtility()'.

This way we can

- make the interface more prominent when doing lookups (and have some 
sort of symmetry between lookup and adaptation)

- and simultaneously keep the semantic difference between adaptation and 
lookup.

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing 3.8 fails in mysterious ways

2009-08-12 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Marius Gedminas wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:17:41PM +0200, Andreas Zeidler wrote:
 just fyi: the bug is also present in zope.testing 3.7.7 (showing up when 
 testing plone.z3cform).  would it perhaps be possible to release a fixed 
 3.7.8 soon, so that our buildout stops complaining again? :)
 
 I looked at the bug and Godefroid's checkin today.  Things seem to be
 complicated.  Short summary: collective.recipe.z2testrunner doesn't
 support running tests in a subprocess.  Long summary:
 https://launchpad.net/bugs/407916
 
 As a quick workaround, instead of a single 'run tests' step that does
 
   bin/test
 
 do separate 'run unit tests' and 'run functional tests' steps
 
   bin/test -u
   bin/test -f
 
 in your buildbot config.
 
 Marius Gedminas
 


I did fix zope.testing and plone.recipe.zope2instance :

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/checkins/2009-August/036807.html

https://dev.plone.org/collective/changeset/94328/buildout/plone.recipe.zope2instance/trunk/src

Fixes released in zope.testing 0.8.1 and plone.recipe.zope2instance 3.4


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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing 3.8 fails in mysterious ways

2009-07-31 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Sidnei da Silva wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Unfortunately, I've got other packages that depend on a newer
 zope.testing (specifically, collective.testcaselayer). But I thought
 zope.testing aimed to be able to run any valid tests, so it sounds
 like a bug in zope.testing regardless, at least since every other test
 I've run in the same instance work fine.
 
 The traceback you pasted shows an UnboundLocalError. What about
 looking at the source and figuring out why that local variable is not
 defined?
 
 -- Sidnei

I bumped into the same bug while working on the same package...

I allowed myself to add the missing assignment.
However, I'd like someone to check over my shoulder.
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/checkins/2009-July/036586.html

Further, this bug is triggered by another one happening when running 
tests with buildout in plone.z3cform current trunk (r102411).

The test runner is trying to spawn a subprocess with the --resume-layer 
argument.  However, the --resume-layer argument is not accepted by the 
subprocess.

This produces an error in a format not foreseen by the error parser. 
(which then triggered the UnboundLocalError).

It would be nice if someone with a better understanding of the 
testrunner could take a look and understand why the --resume-layer stuff 
happens. Christian ?

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Re: [Zope-dev] [Fwd: Zope Tests: 4 OK, 2 Failed]

2008-12-04 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Tres Seaver wrote:

 
 As an aside / vent:  the reason for the now-removed EXTERNALS.txt files
 was to keep the canonical information about the externals in a diffable
 file:  why subversion can't do a proper diff on its own line-oriented
 property is beyond me.  Another benefit of an EXTERNALS.txt file was
 that it could be inspected in the web view of a directory, which isn't
 true for the svn:externals property itself.
 
 
 Tres.

I want to support this. The noise made by keeping EXTERNALS.txt in svn 
is very low compared to the signal it provides.

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[Zope-dev] Re: [Repoze-dev] Somebody needs to talk at EuropPython.

2008-05-06 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Lennart Regebro wrote:

So, we need talks at EuropPython about both Repoze and Grok. I can't
go, but I want to make sure *somebody* does. :)
Hands up: Who is talking about Grok, and who talks about Repoze? :)

Other super-cool Zope technologies that should be talked about?



I think Lennart is really hitting a nail here. We need to advertize 
about our great efforts.


I wont be in EuroPython even if I would have spoken about it with pleasure.

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[Zope-dev] Strange traceback or Error in the traceback ?

2006-01-16 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Hi,

While seaching for objects of all types containing some text through the 
ZMI find tab, I got the traceback hereunder. (Zope 2.7.8-final on

windows)

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 101, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec
  Module App.special_dtml, line 175, in _exec
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 61, in render
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 198, in eval
   - __traceback_info__: _
  Module string, line 0, in ?
  Module OFS.FindSupport, line 151, in ZopeFind
  Module OFS.FindSupport, line 151, in ZopeFind
  Module OFS.FindSupport, line 113, in ZopeFind
  Module OFS.Image, line 425, in PrincipiaSearchSource
AttributeError: content_typestartswith

I went to the code and found the following :

def PrincipiaSearchSource(self):
 Allow file objects to be searched.

if self.content_type.startswith('text/'):
return str(self.data)
return ''

IOW, the traceback is really strange.

Anybody with a clue ?

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[Zope-dev] Re: ZpdfDocument

2005-06-13 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Fernando Lujan wrote:

Hi,

Are someone developing some Product like ZpdfDocument? Today, If I
need a pdf file, I use the reporlab lib, and write it from scratch...
A better solution exist?

Thanks and Regards.

You could also take a look at CMFReportTool. 
(http://svn.plone.org/view/collective/CMFReportTool/)


I have used it recently in a project and the code is imho really nice 
(the PDF generation code does not depend on CMF).


A nice aspect is the generation of PDF from PML (XML description of 
ReportLab objects). This allows you to easily define your PDFs with ZPTs.


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[Zope-dev] Re: Five within Zope 2.8 - really cool !

2005-04-14 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Andreas Jung wrote:
I just would like to thank everyone working on the Five integration
with Zope 2.8. It's really easy and fun to work with views, view
classes, adapters and interfaces in a Zope 2 environment. I've always
tried to get around Zope 3 somehow but now I am at the point where I
am really convinced and healed :-) It was a good decision to ship
Five now instead in Zope 2.9 or so. I am sure Five will make Z2
application design a lot more  straight forward and
cleaner...thanks...great work.

Thanks on behalf of the Five developers and integrators! That's very 
nice to hear, especially coming from you!

Regards,
Martijn
Andreas,
Getting thanks from someone deeply involved in the everyday work of the 
Zope maintenance is a pleasure.

And a good opportunity to thank YOU for the work done on 2.x release 
management.

Godefroid
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[Zope-dev] ZConfig keys

2004-08-04 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hello,
I would like to confirm that ZConfig keys are case insensitive and
that the corresponding attributes on the config object returned by the 
'loadConfig' call are always lower case.

The only thing that seems relevant about keys and case sensitivity in 
the documentation does not state it explicitely :

'''When this schema is loaded, a set of defaults for the derived section 
type is computed. Since basic-key
is case-insensitive (everything is converted to lower case), foo and 
Foo are both converted to foo,
which clashes since key only allows one value for each key.'''

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[Zope-dev] Re: Streaming large files

2004-07-09 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Thilo Staebler wrote:
hi!
I have to stream large mpeg-files over http with range support. this 
works quite nice until the client seeks in the (media)player and the 
files aren't to large, because zope caches the whole file...
...so each seek means streaming the whole file from the requested 
position till end *g*
- my RESPONSE object doesn't even know, that the player has seeked e.g. 
back to the beginning...
is there a way to bypass the zope caching? and how do I know if the 
player has disconnected, so I can stop streaming?

thanks in advance
thilo
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http://infrae.com/products/railroad/
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[Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-25 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Tres Seaver wrote:
Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:59, Casey Duncan wrote:
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.

I might be wrong but I think this is incorrect. From the headers of this
message you sent it's possible to see that you sent it thru gmane, yet
the From: address is your zope.com address, so you should not have a
problem posting thru the list this way.

I think you got a direct reply (but could be wrong).  I got the original 
mail bounced to me just now.

Tres.
This surprises me.
I am administring plone-i18n mailing list. Non members cannot post. I 
always post through gmane and my messages get accepted !

Further, I think Mohsen has a very good point when he mentions the fact 
that spam pollutes the archives !

IOW, I think we really could make advantage of Non-members not allowed 
on zope lists.

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[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3 Newsletter 11

2003-12-24 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Gary Poster wrote:

GODEFROID CHAPELLE: Page Template usage variable

  Usage in Page templates has been completed during the Rheinland
  Sprint organized by DZUG.
I should have asserted that only the infrastructure for the usage 
variable has been completed.

Now, it's time to :

1) walk the zope3 tree and evolve all pages that depend on another 
template that the main template.

2) evolve the main template to allow it to be used in all the cases in 1)

3) improve the main template, as we will have only one to maitain

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[Zope-dev] Re: Still i18n:attributes DeprecationWarning on Zope head!

2003-09-19 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
At 13:24 17/09/2003, Chris Withers wrote:
I know that, the error message is fine, but there are tests that need to 
be corrected. Since you know this syntax very well, please can you check 
out the Zope HEAD, search for tal:attributes and fix and broken tests? I 
think there are only a few files that need to be changed...
Done

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[Zope-dev] Re: i18n:attributes in 2.7

2003-07-25 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Godefroid Chapelle wrote:


To summarize, as message ids translation for attributes was added, 2.7 
and 3 are working according to the doc/spec,
but 2.7 breaks backward compatibility to 2.6.1.

This leads to the following question : do we (1) accept this rupture in 
i18n:attributes management or do we (2) want 2.7 to cover space 
separated attributes ?

IOW, could people that need backward compatibility stand up ?
Plone 1.1 needs backwards compatibility.
Plone guys would like not to have to maintain two versions for 2.6 and 2.7
This implies that we need to implement the second possibility : 2.7 must 
accept space separated attributes.

BTW, second choice would lead us to a bad situation where we cannot 
discriminate between

span value=value title=title
i18n:attributes=value title /
and

span value=value title=title
i18n:attributes=title msgtitle /
Quoting Jim on #zope3-dev :

ok, then I suggest:
In the case where there are other than 2, there is no ambiguity
If there is a semicolon, then use the new rule
foo title; - title is message id
so if there are two things: foo bar
if *bar* is an attr, then:
Translate it and issue a depreication warning using the warnings module
if *bar* if not an attr:
Treat it as a message id.
IOW

if space separated and there are more than two items,
all are treated as attributes plus deprecation warning
if space separated and two items :

- i18n:attributes=value msg_id; (with semicolon) will always be 
treated as attr msg_id

- i18n:attributes=value title will be treated as attr attr as long 
as title exist as attribute plus deprecation warning

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[Zope-dev] Re: [Vote] PEP308 voting began

2003-03-06 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Evan Simpson wrote:
Guido van Rossum wrote:

IMO TALES should solve this for itself by introducing an if/then/else
expression form rather than depending on Python.  If you can have a
not:.. expression, surely you can have an if:..:then:..:else:..
expression.


Now that you point it out, it's not even hard.  Here's a 
proof-of-concept, with really awful parsing (it obviously breaks on 
nested if: then: else:), that actually works:

class IfExpr:
def __init__(self, name, expr, compiler):
self._s = expr = expr.lstrip()
m = re.match('(.*) then:(.*) else:(.*)', expr)
if m is not None:
condexpr, thenexpr, elseexpr = m.groups()
self._cond = compiler.compile(condexpr)
self._then = compiler.compile(thenexpr)
self._else = compiler.compile(elseexpr)
def __call__(self, econtext):
if econtext.evaluateBoolean(self._cond):
return econtext.evaluate(self._then)
return econtext.evaluate(self._else)
(Tested with
div tal:replace=if:options/x then:string:yes else:string:no)
Is this worth a robust implementation, ZPT folks?
I think so. Iam much too often using python:test( just for simple 
condition testing.
Cheers,

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[Zope-dev] cvs.zope.org broken

2002-12-18 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hi all,

Does someone knows what happens with cvs.zope.org which is currently broken ?

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[Zope-dev] Zope 2.5.1 on Win Me

2002-06-14 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Hi all,

I have been using Zope from 2.2.4 on Linux, Win 95 and  Win 2K, never 
experiencing any problems.

I am trying to convince a potential colleague to try and learn Zope.

He installed 2.5.1 on Win Me. When he begins with start.bat the machine is 
totally blocked after few seconds. The only exit is to reboot the machine.

I deinstalled 2.5.1 and installed 2.3.3 on the same machine which works 
perfectly.

But I still would like to know if you have heard any similar problems with 
Millenium (I have searched NIP archives on Millenium and did not find 
anything).

I have no idea how to trace the problem.

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[Zope-dev] Re: Zope-Dev digest, Vol 1 #1682 - 11 msgs

2002-05-10 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

At 06:13 10/05/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'else' is tricky within the block oriented structure of anything XML-ish,
because of the concept of 'well-formedness'.  The 'if' statement would have
to be singly wrapped, and the else block wrapped separately, looking at
least somewhat awkward any way you go about it.  The best I can come up with
in my mind is this, in order to have the 'else' pick up on the condition
expressed in its surrounding container.  But, yuck:

if ...
  true stuff
  else
   false stuff
  /else
/if


A good page template way is something like this:

tal:if condition=myTalesExpression
  truth
/tal:if
tal:else condition=not:myTalesExpression
  false
/tal:else

The 'not' TALES namespace is valuable.  The downside is that you evaluate
the expression twice.  A good way to work within this is something that I
did earlier today, outside of this conversation, where I evaluate an
expression earlier and assign it to a variable:

div id=edit-area
  tal:define=editItems python:here.getMenuItem(...)

   h3Edit Menu Items/h3
   form action=Delete method=post name=actForm
 tal:condition=editItems

  ... (form and table elements, and a loop over editItems
   contained in here if there were results) ...

   /form

   div class=emph
tal:condition=not:editItems
No menu items available
   /div

/div


This is something I did a lot in DTML too, setting a search result to either
a global variable, or inside of a large dtml-let namescape


It is maybe not clear that the above is really usable and allowed. I do not 
know how and where to stress that the tal: marked tags are underdocumented 
what a pity.

I have already tried : 
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZopeBook/AdvZPT.stx#3-44

Sorry that I am not able to explain it better...
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[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Security Assertions

2002-01-17 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

At 18:43 16/01/2002, you wrote:

Sorry about cross-posting but I think the following info is worth reading 
for both zope-users and developers.


Note that up until Zope 2.5.0b4 there is a bug in the way module security 
assertions are handled that makes it impossible to declare more than one 
assertion without overwriting a previous assertion.  It's not really a 
security hole, it's just annoying and clearly broken.  I'd suggest that 
you complain about this (or do it yourself) if you think a monkeypatch is 
in order for Zope 2.3/2.4.

I went to CVS and read AccessControl.SecurityInfo.py

The code looked simple enough that I would take no risk by including it 
even if my understanding of the inner-working of Zope is still elementary.

The following patch works to correct the problem for Zope 2.3.3. It does 
not seem to cause any other problem.

# patch taken from Zope 2.5
from string import rfind  # 1.5.2 syntax

def ModuleSecurityInfo(module_name=None):
 if module_name is not None:
 modsec = _moduleSecurity.get(module_name, None)
 if modsec is not None:
 return modsec
 dot = rfind(module_name, '.') # 1.5.2 syntax
 if dot  0:
 # If the module is in a package, recursively make sure
 # there are security declarations for the package steps
 # leading to the module
 modname = module_name[dot + 1:]
 pmodsec = ModuleSecurityInfo(module_name[:dot])
 if not pmodsec.names.has_key(modname):
 pmodsec.declarePublic(modname)
 return _ModuleSecurityInfo(module_name)

class _ModuleSecurityInfo(SecurityInfo):
 Encapsulate security information for modules.


in place of

class ModuleSecurityInfo(SecurityInfo):
 Encapsulate security information for modules.


I do not know what you mean by a 'monkeypatch' but it is certainly worth it 
to add the patch to 2.3.x and 2.4.x branches.




Godefroid Chapelle wrote:

   Casey Duncan wrote:
  
So the following things don't work:
   
from Products.Formulator.Form import FormValidationError
  
   Either Martijn or you need to add the following lines to a Product
   __init__.py somewhere:
  
   from AccessControl import ModuleSecurityInfo
   ModuleSecurityInfo('Products').declarePublic('Formulator')
   ModuleSecurityInfo('Products.Formulator').declarePublic('Form')
   
 ModuleSecurityInfo('Products.Formulator.Form').declarePublic('FormValidationError') 

  
   Cheers,
  
   Evan @ Zope

I added the above code in the corresponding  __init__.py on my machine.
Which works almost perfectly...:
Further, I needed to be able to import :
from Products.gvibDA.gvib.gvibExceptions import IntegrityError

So I added the following code in gvibDA's __init__.py
from Products.PythonScripts.Utility import allow_module, allow_class
from AccessControl import ModuleSecurityInfo, ClassSecurityInfo
from Globals import InitializeClass
ModuleSecurityInfo('Products').declarePublic('gvibDA')
ModuleSecurityInfo('Products.gvibDA').declarePublic('gvib')
ModuleSecurityInfo('Products.gvibDA.gvib').declarePublic('gvibExceptions')
ModuleSecurityInfo('Products.gvibDA.gvib.gvibExceptions').declarePublic('IntegrityError')
 

from gvib.gvibExceptions import IntegrityError
allow_class(IntegrityError)

I get an 'Unauthorized: Formulator' error when accessing a script 
beginning with
from Products.Formulator.Form import FormValidationError
from Products.gvibDA.gvib.gvibExceptions import IntegrityError

I suppose it has something to do with the creation of two instances of 
ModuleSecurityInfo('Products') but have no idea how to correct the problem.
Any help would be appreciated.

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[Zope-dev] CoreSessionTracking onStart

2001-10-24 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Hi,

I am trying to use the onStart method of a session data manager

But I do not get how to give the path so that my method get called...

I could not find any information of the real way to use it.

Can someone help me ?

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[Zope-dev] ComputedAttribute, Persitent and too many datafull baseclasses

2001-10-20 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Hi,

In a product I am writing, I am trying to add a ComputedAttribute to an 
instance of a Folder descendant class.

This is the code I use:

 def addComputedAttribute(self, attributeName, sourceCode):
 methodName = '_ca_get%s' % attributeName
 self.addMethod(methodName, sourceCode)
 setattr(self, attributeName, 
ContextComputedAttribute(self.__class__.__dict__[methodName]))

where at first I defined ContextComputed Attribute like this:

 import ComputedAttribute

 _ComputedAttribute = ComputedAttribute.ComputedAttribute
 del ComputedAttribute

 class ContextComputedAttribute(_ComputedAttribute):
 pass


This put the Folder in a bad state : when I access it later, the Zope 
instance crashes.

So I supposed I needed to use a persistent Attribute and I tried with 
ContextComputedAttribute class defined like this:

 class ContextComputedAttribute(Persistent):
 def __init__(self, test):
 pass


In this case, the Folder stays in a good state but it does not fullfill the 
requirements as ContextComputedAttribute does not descend from the real 
Zope ComputedAttribute class.

My problem is the following :

I cannot define a class like this:

 import ComputedAttribute

 _ComputedAttribute = ComputedAttribute.ComputedAttribute
 del ComputedAttribute

 class ContextComputedAttribute(_ComputedAttribute, Persistent):
   pass

In this case, I get the following error

TypeError: too many datafull base classes

which has to do with too many ExtensionClass derivation...

Can someone tell me how to define a class with both ComputedAttribute and 
Persistent behaviours ?

Thanks a lot.


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[Zope-dev] hack for refused authorization with virtual dataskin

2001-04-23 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Hello,


After rereading the ZopeSecurityPolicy source code, I tried the
following hack.

I add in the skinscript :

WITH 1 COMPUTE __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=RESULT

which does work : it fools the security mechanism.

I can live with it but feel that there is only a slight problem which
could allow me to avoid the hack.

I hope this can hint some of you to help me to understand what is badly
settled in my installation.



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Re: [Zope-dev] Virtual dataskinned ZClass instance

2001-04-18 Thread Godefroid Chapelle



Steve Alexander a crit :

 Godefroid Chapelle wrote:

 
  where getNames is a python method in a DataSkin Class Extender.
  It is defined as :
 
   import string
   list = string.split(context.id, '_')
   return list[1]

 use getId() perhaps?

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When using context.getId(), I get the id of the specialist, not of the
HumanClass instance...

Actually, what I present is a "toy test" where I try to access the id as you
do in the skinscript exapmle you sent me...


If I change the skinscript to something simpler...

WITH 'test' COMPUTE prenom=RESULT


and the DTML to :

dtml-var standard_html_header
h2dtml-var title_or_id/h2
dtml-var "defaultRack.getItem('100_Peter').prenom"
dtml-var standard_html_footer


I get the same unauthorized error response but this time when accessing
'prenom'.

I suppose ther something wrong with the default ZClass constructor which is
used by the rack to make the instance... but is that correct ... no idea...

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[Zope-dev] Dataskin with no persistence.

2001-04-12 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Hi,

I am trying to build a specialist which gives me access to a facade
ZClass in front of a XML file.

As the XML is already stored, I do not want to store the facade ZClass.
Actually, I would like it to be a base on which
the skinscript of the specialist's rack can add attributes.

So I created a ZClass (HumanClass) with no properties inheriting from
ZObject and _ZClass_for_DataSkin.

I create a specialist in which the default rack has the following
properties :

data plug-in : a skinscript computing attributes based on an id and the
xml.

storage :
   Class to use for stored items: HumanClass
   Objects are: loaded by accessing attribute nom  (which is defined in
the skinscript)

Store 'persistent' data: Directly in this object


I store no HumanClass instance and try to get an instance :

specialist.getItem(anId)

I always get None.


Am I trying to do something impossible because of lack of understanding
or am I just wrong in one property of ZClass, Specialist, Rack ?


Thanks a lot


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Re: [Zope-dev] Dataskin with no persistence.

2001-04-12 Thread Godefroid Chapelle



Steve Alexander a crit :

 Godefroid Chapelle wrote:

 
  data plug-in : a skinscript computing attributes based on an id and the
  xml.
 

I just want to stress that I deleted every prebuilt other data plugins...

My ZClass has only an empty dataskin property sheet.


  storage :
 Class to use for stored items: HumanClass
 Objects are: loaded by accessing attribute nom  (which is defined in
  the skinscript)
 

I have changed the load attribute to id.

This helps a little : with dtml-var "getItem(REQUEST.id)" in the
specialist, I get a HumanClass Instance at xxx in the HTML code.

But when trying to access any attribute of the instance I get an
authorization error.

I remembered having seen somewhere to put a proxy role on the skinscript so I
tried.

With manager, I keep the same authorization error...

With owner or anonymous, I get a NameError on the first name mentioned in the
skinscript...


  Store 'persistent' data: Directly in this object
 
 
  I store no HumanClass instance and try to get an instance :
 
  specialist.getItem(anId)
 
  I always get None.
 
 
  Am I trying to do something impossible because of lack of understanding
  or am I just wrong in one property of ZClass, Specialist, Rack ?

 What you're doing sounds about right.

 What does your SkinScript look like?

 In the ScinScript, you need to determine what data to use based on
 self.id. Here's the SkinScript I use for a similar function; I'm
 creating "virtual" instances of one ZClass, based on instances of a
 different ZClass from another Specialist. In this case, the other
 specialist is "Responses".

 WITH Responses.get_data_for_code(code=self.id) COMPUTE
subject_name,
rater_name,
relationship_name,
response_code,
process_step

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 Cat-Box limited

BTW Has there been a patch for an error I get when using copy or cut buttons
in ZPatterns containers :

Zope Error

   Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.

   Error Type: KeyError
   Error Value: manage_tabs


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Re: [Zope-dev] Memory problems with ParsedXML ?

2001-04-02 Thread Godefroid Chapelle



Karl Anderson a crit :


 I didn't think that anyone would want to see a management screen with
 2500 ParsedXML instances - or 2500 instances of anything - at one
 time. Have you tried using a BTree folder?


BTree Folder is working very nicely...


 Another thing to keep in mind is that the ParsedXML *product* is a DOM
 tree and a management interface around it.  The management interface
 only gives you a convenient UI and a place to store a few bits that
 the DOM doesn't know about (content type, namespace usage, etc.).
 It's always more efficient to just use the DOM tree and related
 utilities (parsing, printing), although it is less convenient - you
 have to know a little bit more about what you're doing.  Do you need
 each of those 2500 product instances?  See the createDOMDocument
 method to create a DOM document without the management interface.


I am trying to use createDOMDocument, calling it from an external method:

from Products.ParsedXML import ParsedXML

def accessXml(document):
return ParsedXML.createDOMDocument(document)

When using the document returned in a python script,  it seems that Zope
security prevents me from accessing any DOM attributes.

Am I doing something wrong or am I forced to do everything through external
methods ?


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[Zope-dev] Memory problems with ParsedXML ?

2001-03-28 Thread Godefroid Chapelle

Hi,

I have imported about 2500 xml files in ParsedXML objects through the
use of  :

manage_addProduct['ParsedXML'].manage_addParsedXML(id, '', xmlString)

This works perfectly.

But when trying to browse the folder containing the ParsedXML instances,
a whole lot of memory is used by Zope and it took my machine down.

Have I done something wrong or does this info help you debug the product
?

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Re: [Zope-dev] Memory problems with ParsedXML ?

2001-03-28 Thread Godefroid Chapelle



Karl Anderson a crit :


 Hm, it's been pointed out to me that the inefficiency of the get_size
 method of ParsedXML is compounded with many instances because the
 standard management interface uses it.

 It's possible that some stuff isn't getting garbage collected until
 the transaction is done, and calling get_size on many ParsedXML
 instances in one transaction is the problem.  I'll look into it.

 I didn't think that anyone would want to see a management screen with
 2500 ParsedXML instances - or 2500 instances of anything - at one
 time. Have you tried using a BTree folder?

 Another thing to keep in mind is that the ParsedXML *product* is a DOM
 tree and a management interface around it.  The management interface
 only gives you a convenient UI and a place to store a few bits that
 the DOM doesn't know about (content type, namespace usage, etc.).
 It's always more efficient to just use the DOM tree and related
 utilities (parsing, printing), although it is less convenient - you
 have to know a little bit more about what you're doing.  Do you need
 each of those 2500 product instances?  See the createDOMDocument
 method to create a DOM document without the management interface.

 It's easy to wrap a ParsedXML product around an existing DOM tree -
 see the initFromDOMDocument method.  Currently, you have to create the
 persistent ParsedXML product which wraps the DOM Document node, and
 install that product in a Zope ObjectManager (or subclass like Folder)
 somewhere, to avoid a few warts.  Someday I'd like to be able to just
 instantiate a management wrapper when I want a management interface,
 and then just throw it away, without bothering to add it to a folder.

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Thanks answering so quickly...

I am still a newbie and will check BTree Folder and the API you point to me.
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