Thanks to the advice of the 313 mailing list, I went to see Joel Mull spin @
NAF studios in West Seattle, USA.
All I have to say is: WOW!
Hands down best music I've ever heard at any gathering during the
several-year span of my listening to electronic music.
He definitely has picked up a few
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From: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [313] German techno that fits 313?
Actually, I think there is lots of great German techno. Kanzleramt, Kurbel
(especially Heiko
hey i asked first:)
dK
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From: Vince Woolums [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:11 PM
To: 313 List
Subject: Re: [313] Vincent Floyd
Yeah if anyone wants to sell me this Relief record, I'll buy it!
Vince Woolums
AOL IM: vincewoolums
picked up an ep on Frunk records recently by David Panda called the velvet
ep track a velvet monkey is very nice house and i just wondered if anyone
had any info on him or frunk records
andrew
The universe will end with a whimper, not a bang, and expand forever.
A mysterious repulsive force, known as Dark Energy and first suggested by
Einstein, pervades the cosmos and is pushing the galaxies ever faster
apart, new research shows.
i hadn't heard that about the beasties hating techno...in fact they're
famous for being huge kraftwerk fans...and grand royal did a complilation LP
last year that was a tribute to the MC 303...and adrock's BS 2000 project
has weird electronic influences to it..but i got to admit its a weird
i couldn't agree more...i'm a huge bb fan, and i only get to see them play
here in the UK like, maybe once every two years - but if somehow by some
miracle i did make it to DEMF id much rather check some obscure DJ i'd never
heard of on another stage...
like you say.its detroit!
i mean, if
Going a little off topic here, but I'd like an answer to this question as
well...I moved to Boston last year and have been able to pick up plenty of
great techno (313 and otherwise) in the Satellite and Other Music outlets.
But snowhere eems to play it. With the exception of one or two house
Thanks to all the replies to this query. Very helpful. He was namechecked by
another producer and while I knew the name I couldn't visualise the
spelling. So thanx.
Cyclone
I wondered if anyone is familiar with Christian Morgensen, a techno producer
out of Cologne. I mainly want to verify the
hey just a funny thought...
I wonder if carl craig has contacted that cook from
survivor from bloomfield hills to announce all of the
acts for demf
-sam
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Most Americans are quite content to allow doctors, lawyers and MBAs (masters
of business administration...the nouveau vermin of American society) and
finally politicians to step in and create control factors, rewrite history
and generally develop their appetites for them. It speaks to the fact
I'm hoping for the Electrifying Mojo behind a scrim. :)
At 6:56 PM -0700 4/4/2001, Samuel Hobbs wrote:
hey just a funny thought...
I wonder if carl craig has contacted that cook from
survivor from bloomfield hills to announce all of the
acts for demf
-sam
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Most Americans are quite content to allow doctors, lawyers and MBAs
(masters
of business administration...the nouveau vermin of American society) and
finally politicians to step in and create control factors, rewrite history
and generally develop their appetites
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i hadn't heard that about the beasties hating techno...in fact they're
famous for being huge kraftwerk fans...
Too bad Kraftwerk wasn't touring again in the timeframe
of the DEMF...
they would make one hell of a special guest there!!!
(feeling lucky that i got to
OT but...
Heheheeheheh
the funny part about the Ford Focus is
that its a German based design..
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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:00:50 -0400
To: Graeme ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [313] German techno that fits 313?
That's why Stewart Walker and I think Boston is such a great place to live
; P
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Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:40:57 -0400
To: steve teeri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [313] FW: [313] German techno that fits 313?
Sorry, but I'm not being paid enough to change my set to do any requests...
; P
After all the DEMF is not a wedding
Thank you for these words, they are quite inspiring... I would like to let
you know that I grew up in the suburbs of Detroit my whole life but have
never been a stranger to the city... I actually spent last summer/fall
working for the thanksgiving day parade welding floats at their
Hi, I'd really like your help on getting a track ID.
The track is at
http://www.techno.cz/samples/index.htm
You need to select DJ Mary. You will see 2 mixes.
See the one that says 'tech-house', click download
mp3. You will see 17 mp3 files. Am am interested in
'Track11.mp3'. You can tell
Arne: I feel that a nice mix of melodic and harder driving tracks is
interesting and preferable on the dansefloor. At home, when I put on an
album, usually i'll go for a more melodic one (ex.-heiko laux:sensefiction,
plaid:trainer). Not that I think that all of 313 released albums fit the
fighting skinheads would be bad because there are plenty of people out there
who wear all black, have tattoos, and have little to no hair. i am one of
them. so are most of the people i work with...we are called sailors.
someone at the bar used the word nigger tonight and i told him to shut up,
test
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a few years back when i was in London i happened upon a cd by Fred
Gianelli called Telepathic Wisdom Vol 2 and damn, it's amazing. pure
kooky goodness is what it is. since then i've been trying to find volume
1 and i've had no luck. does it exist? anyone have it?
tom
He rocked as usual and keep your eye on the link
below as we will be bringing him back to leeds later
this year for an innercity party.
paul
www.innercity.co.uk/freestyl.htm
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From: Gary Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001
Biggedy-biggedy-bong! Hear ye, hear ye. The new issue of Overload is now
released and will be filtering into the better record shops worldwide over
the next few weeks.
Issue 7.0 features interviews with Andrew Weatherall, DJ Rolando, Si Begg,
Andrea Parker, Colin McBean and Bogdan Raczynski, plus
what can i say.incredible.
and i'm not easily impressed either.
pity it was only 45 mins or so long
cheers
robin...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/documentaries/pioneers_larry_levan.shtml
Presented by Danny Tenaglia, it's rather good.
Was the final episode of a Pioneers series which also seems to have
featured Black Sabbath, Madonna and Teddy Riley...?
Other favourites of mine from Radio 1's online documentaries
Does anybody know of a good Winamp plugin that gets rid of the gaps between
tracks?
It makes listening to mix-sets a nightmare!
Im using Dudsoft Gapless Output v1.4
but it doesnt work :(
Steve
p.s. Oh and elpH, couldnt ID the track sorry, but it sounds like a good set!
-Original
I have to agree as well - fantastic!
What a man!
Respect to DJ Bone
Mark
--- robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what can i say.incredible.
and i'm not easily impressed either.
pity it was only 45 mins or so long
cheers
robin...
--- jean-francois baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can check an old titonton's interview here
http://www.d2b.org/EAR/INTW/08/titonton_duvante.html
He recently did a little interview for Jockey Slut...
The release date for Selections is wrong tho... It's
April the 9th...
Nick:)
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Trace Elements 2 was a collab with Morgan
Geist.
nope, trace 2 featured a track by titonton called
scrazzelnyph. trace 3 had
a track he and morgan did.
Yeah, 1 was Jizzak inda Bizza, 2 was Scrazzleniph and
3 was the collab... a tune called Up Innis
There's subtext at 207 Norfolk in the basement of
Tonic. _Definately_ worth checking out if you like a
good crowd, intimate atmosphere and good music.
it comes highly suggested.
d
--- Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Phil Chan wrote:
i'll be paying my first visit to
there's been a lot of talk about titonton duvante (and his brilliant musical
output - techno and what not), but what about other members of this 'broken
beat' scene?
labels such as laws of motion, people, bittasweet are they considered
to be part of it? are those great germans, the
Does anybody have any comments on Stacey Pullens recent output?
I heard it has a 'West London' influence. Presumably a UK garage/dancehall
vibe.
Anyone?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 April 2001 14:08
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re:
no offence, just love mark and dego´s stuff.. when they started that sound
,db or jungle wasn´t taken seriously... i tink its time to acknowledge their
immense influence on music as we know it today..
154
today is the tommorow you were promised yesterday
As well a some 4/4 theres somefor want of a better description 'Broken
Beat'
type of sound... but and it a big BUT with detriot string stabs and those
melanconic
synth washes and melodies. Works well for me...Not a lot UK Garage
everyone who wasn´t makin it or not runnin around with the mighty glowsticks...
--- Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DB or Jungle wasn't taken seriously by who
exactly???
When it started out Ibiza Records were calling it
racist... Oops... sorry...
Well, it was an attempt to put reggae and ragga with
the UK rave of the day and the name jungle wasn't
approved of by
nu era (but think that's just one of them - not sure which one)
jacob's optical stairway
4hero
tek 9
unfortunately, they are the only ones i know
From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Stacey Pullen and Mark and Dego
Date: Thu, 5 Apr
i read an interview with stacey somewhere (forgot the place)
where he spoke very enthusiastic words about the 'planetary folklore' album
by as one/kirk degiorgio on mowax
At 5-4-01 +0100 14:28, you wrote:
today is the tommorow you were promised yesterday
As well a some 4/4 theres
Well i remember it wasnt taken seriously on the 313 list back in 94,
but remember kids, 313 are not some kind of supreme music council! ;)
Dont want to start that old '313 elitism' thread off do we.
It was taken pretty seriously in the UK!
peace
everyone who wasn´t makin it or not runnin
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Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london sound?
everyone who wasn´t makin it or not runnin around with the mighty
glowsticks...
Although don't forget that 4 hero were
--- Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london
sound?
everyone who wasn´t makin it or not runnin around
with the
Do 2000 Black have a website?
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From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 April 2001 14:29
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Stacey Pullen and Mark and Dego
today is the tommorow you were promised yesterday
As well a some 4/4 theres
1. dego and marc DO have an immense influence on the ideals behind broken
beat. after two pages they were thinking about going in a different
direction, as they were exhuasted with drum and bass and wanted to fuse more
of their influences into their music.
2. not only is 4Hero to be credited,
yep, it's close in sound to as one, future/past - but isn't kirk degorgio
mates with 4hero? they're all in bed together!
From: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Stacey Pullen and Mark and Dego
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:32:03 +0200
i read an interview with
Im also keen to find a plugin that does this. those gaps give me the
shits!
ab
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From: Steven Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:30 PM
To: 'meta elpH'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Winamp DJ set gaps (was : my first track id
--- Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do 2000 Black have a website?
nah... but check Stephen Kelly's Twoplayer site... it
has a full discog... http://www.twoplayer.org/ He dj's
on Nortroute too... http://www.nortroute.net/
Notice a pattern yet?
Nick:)
so many puesdonyms
any one care to list them...
4Hero = Tek9 (Dego), Manix (Mark), Points Proven,
NuEra, Jacob's Optical Stairway, Tom and Jerry, Pavel
Dego Kostiuk is Dego too I think...
Nick:)
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To: 'Nick Walsh' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [313] jazzanova - kings of west london
sound?
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:52:17 +0100
d+b for me it goes a little something
OK...who remembers IG Culture from Dodge City Productionsthat was back in
the day...
Also recording as Likwid Biskit...I think...
2. not only is 4Hero to be credited, but I find IG Culture and Phil Asher
also to be founding fathers behind the movement. ESPECIALLY Phil Asher, as
he
Oh yeah... Cold Mission or something too...
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internal affairs...
From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] 4Hero Pseudonyms
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:47:03 -0700 (PDT)
so many puesdonyms
any one care to list
These days one of the first things I do when I wake up is put Vertigo on,
absolutely excellent EP dated 2001, probably his latest... absolutely
amazing track ! great angelic vocal sample + arpegggios, great dreamy
track... same goes for track 2 and the 4 Hero remix...
I would not file this with
It must be mentioned that EVERONE ON THIS LIST, without exception
should buy Selections for Intercourse. Tintonton pulls out all
the stops here -- live string arrangements, downtempo tracks,
dance floor tracks that manage to be subtle, devious, and banging
all at the same time.
kent williams --
From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bone on Radio1
what can i say.incredible.
and i'm not easily impressed either.
Yeah it was great. I was lucky enough to be at the Maida Vale studios where
Bone was playing - he was on three decks for the most part. Very relaxed
style (esp.
Hey group! I was surfing the web last night and came across a mixer and forgot
where I found it. I know that the model is called smacpro 40 but I forgot
who manufactures it. I think the company is U.K. or Europe based.
Can anyone i.d.l this company and, if so, can you give an educatd
Hi
I'm putting together a list of worldwide record hops.
There was some a few days ago, but i need more.
Tell me about good record shops in your city and others that you know...
Peace
janos
Not to be confused with vertigo by Alan Braxe!
Cheers!
Dennis
From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Stacey Pullen (was : jazzanova - kings of west london
sound?)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:16:06 +0200
These days one of the first things I do when I
http://motion.state51.co.uk/shopfinder/
Hi
I'm putting together a list of worldwide record hops.
There was some a few days ago, but i need more.
Tell me about good record shops in your city and others that
you know...
Peace
janos
Besides the smaller stores in windsor and Toronto like songbird music etc.
which have good prices, I would use gearprice dot com. It scans the majors
for the lowest prices.
I've found the web to be just the place however, to find stuff second hand
and save a pretty penny, as I'm sure many
not wanting to start some contoversy herebut IMHO meat beat manifesto
kikked dnb off...radio babylon saw them merging big fat dub basslines and
speeded up breaks...they were ripped off by the hardcore breakbeat crowd and
that developed into dnb
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From: Nick Walsh
The manufacturer of that mixer is called Ecler.
You can go to the hompage at: http://www.eclerdjdivision.com/home.htm
You can buy the mixer at www.1200s.com.
I was actually thinking of getting this mixer.
Tony
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I agree the influence of that record was huge.
But I think the point is that no artist living has EVER kicked a *whole*
scene off, some are more important than others but no scene started from a
singularity..
Steve
not wanting to start some contoversy herebut IMHO meat
beat manifesto
--- janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I'm putting together a list of worldwide record
hops.
There was some a few days ago, but i need more.
Tell me about good record shops in your city and
others that you know...
Pure Sheng (my local:)
80 Micklegate
York
Innercity Records
11a
previously...
i read an interview with stacey somewhere (forgot the place) where he spoke
very enthusiastic words about the 'planetary folklore' album by as one/kirk
degiorgio on mowax
snip
for those who are curious, marsel, dan and i have been playing quite a lot
of this sort of sound on
very true of course
its just i LOVE that tune...and jack dangers/MBM are never given enough
props...in fact, bizzarely the only person that regularly namechecks them is
liam from the prodigy. might not like his music much..but at least he pays
respect when its due...
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--- tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
not wanting to start some contoversy herebut
IMHO meat beat manifesto
kikked dnb off...radio babylon saw them merging big
fat dub basslines and
speeded up breaks...they were ripped off by the
hardcore breakbeat crowd and
that developed into
Is the album out proper yet? If so, are there any new opinions on it? As
some folk will recall I thought it was awful (unlike Vertigo, which is quite
good), other folk have told me it grows on you, but it hasn't done so yet.
It's still cack IMHO: the broken beats connection is there, but it's a
ever in oxford u should check:
massive records
gloucester green market
oxford.
run by infamous jo massive...makes its money selling pop-house and garage
but always has the freshest techno in, plus a healthy selection from
axis/UR/KMS/planet E back catalogue...
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Hi.
David Panda is Martin Venetjoki also releasing under several pseudonyms and
works a lot together with Tony Senhore.
You could also find some more info about Frunk at:
http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO095
peace
janos
At 09:50 AM 4/5/2001 +0930, Andrew Wilson wrote:
picked up an ep on
Definitely! Massive is an excellent shop, I wish there were more like it
here instead of London's usual super-specialist styled shops. Record
shopping when I lived in Oxford was a one stop affair: house, garage, hip
hop, techno all in the under one roof with no compromise in quality. I could
(and
a few years back i was working minimum wage at virgin records in
oxford...even though they gave me 25% staff discount on everything i used to
go round the corner to massive (when it was in fryers entry) every lunch
time and spend all my wages in their...
i still live in oxford...but not working
Not for nothing, but the line-up so far for this year's DEMF seems a bit lite
for my tastes. As BMG states in the Metrotimes, and I'm taking this out of
context: ...of course, there are notable omissions: Rob Hood, UR, Blake
Baxter, many notable new local techno labels, and more Chicago heroes
Listen to your heart...Program yourself. Or ask yourself: What would
Richie do?
LOL. Please don't make me fall off of my chair again.
Glad someone enjoyed my little tongue-in-cheek attempt at humor.
No offence to true believers of any stripe out there, I hope...
Wes
is it archived, by any chance?
Mike
From: paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gary Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Subject Detroit
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:34:29 +0100
He rocked as usual and keep your eye on the link
below as we will be bringing him back to leeds later
i'd have to recommend Audiolines. they give me a slightly shady impression,
but their prices are great. especially on Numark stuff. they can also
match prices.
their customer service is also pretty good too. i've had a few problems
which were resolved quickly.
don't know about finding
Sorry if this has been mentioned already: There's an interview with Dego
and IG Culture in last month's XLR8R. I would have liked more, but it was a
decent introduction. The article includes sidebar with a rundown on other
key figures.
maybe the rolling bassline and jamican dudes say bum clat every now and
then but 2 step as a pattern and or beat is basically garage (quantized in
triplets) without a four four bass kick. therers so much you could do with 2
step not just that speed garage sound. but the problem is that i caNT
he wasnt the first, check joey negro aka Dave Lee whos
first ep is said to have had a picture of a black male
on the cover. and why not terry lee brown marshall
jefferson is said to have called him god after
hearing his first album
For those who still asking what does this have to do
I'm glad to see discussion of the whole broken beat movement on here. Not
only is it one of the most interesting musical mutations going at the
moment, but it seems to be percolating along in truly underground fashion.
More and more people are picking up on it, and yet it still refuses to
I've heard some not so good things about those mixers... muddy sound and the
angled faders are just a gimmick. I've used some at my local record shop and
they are kind of crowded down by the crossfader... too cramped with the
faders being so close to the cross and punch out buttons. Very
Please hit me back privately
Anyone ever use an Allen Heath DJ mixer? Feedback is needed...
MEK
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Perhaps it was politics, perhaps it was conflicting schedules.
Juan had his chance last year and was a no show.
And perhaps did you think that Carl might have asked people, and they
declined?
just a thought. . . .
I think that might have been the case. I don't know. We'll see...
anyone already heard the k.hand album detroit history part 1 on tresor
and cares to give a review?
peter
to go back into dj culture
'70 jamaican dj spinned dancehall on 45 instead of 33
known as 'bubbling'
'Gabber' ('92) also used pitched up breakbeats and went to that speed.
ah well the UK rules for shure and Rene Passeti once said :
detroit aint in detroit anymore but in the UK
cheers !D
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I know it's been beat to death already, but I'm
extremely disappointed the Alan Oldham is not going to
be performing this year. This man has contributed as
much or more to Detroit's overall artistic community
than virtually anyone else. Too bad the organizers
can't put their personal biases
Personally I dont think the reason or the politics
behind this situation is any of our business. Alan
posted to his website last year his feelings on the
topic and has remarked on it in interviews (use your
search engine). He said in one interview he'll be
posting an edited version of last year's
To end the debate simply hear it from Alan himself at
www.worldtechnonation.com/alanoldhaminterview.htm
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From: MD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:10 PM
Subject: [313] DEMF2001 - Oldham
I know it's been beat to death already,
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would someone send me a list of all the internet sites
they listen to streamed dj sets on. i am especially
looking for detroit stuff.
thanks
-sam
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previously...
oh yeah... cold mission or something too...
internal affairs...
4 hero = tek9 (dego), manix (mark), points proven, nu era, jacob's optical
stairway, tom and jerry, pavel dego kostiuk is dego too I think...
snip
hum - i like this game :)
ok, you've also got r-solution
not wanting to start some contoversy herebut
IMHO meat beat manifesto
kikked dnb off...radio babylon saw them merging big
fat dub basslines and
speeded up breaks...they were ripped off by the
hardcore breakbeat crowd and
that developed into dnb
i remember reading somewhere
yeah...most of those guys (grooverider, fabio, jumpin jack frost) started
off playing detroit and chicago stuff back in the late 80's...
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