Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Thanks, Miyako. Yes, I know the structure file being read only is expected, just didn’t expect the warning, since it doesn’t occur when installing form a zipped file. > On Jul 29, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > is it not normal and expected

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

is it not normal and expected that the structure file is read-only, if inside the application folder? you can suppress the warning http://doc.4d.com/4Dv17/4D/17/DatabaseData-storage-page.300-3743476.en.html and you can configure the application to use a "default data" read-only placeholder for

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

As I said in my post, I used a verified signed package to install the app. This automatically copies it to the applications folder. The package was created using a signed Single user Build (never opened) moved to the Applications before creating the package. The package was created using terminal

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

You're not trying to run it from within the disk image are you? IE instead of copying the app from a disk image into the Applications folder you simply open the disk image and run the app from there. On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 at 12:59, Donald Koffman via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > No the

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

No the data file is not open. The message refers to the structure file, not the data file. Does this indicate that it has been moved to a read only location? On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 11:19 PM Lloyd SIgler via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Do you have the data files open on another

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Do you have the data files open on another Machine? I will get that message if I am trying to open while the data files are already open on another machine. Lloyd > On Jul 28, 2018, at 7:41 PM, donkoff via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > HI All, > After successfully building and

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

HI All, After successfully building and packaging a signed app (verified),opening the package installed in in High Sierra. When I launch it, a confirm Dialog asking "Are you sure you want to open the structure file in red only mode." Yes, opens it and it seems fine. The structure file is

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 4:08 PM, James Crate wrote: > > However, you can’t call OPEN DATA FILE from the On Startup database method, > or any method called by it. Is there a recommended way to run code after the > On Startup method has finished? POST KEY to a special menu

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

though the original problem has been solved already (just move the app to /Applications) I would just like to share some tips on how to package your app for distribution. 1. to code sign or not is a mostly financial question; there is nothing technically difficult about it, you just need to

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

I prefer to use DropDMG from c-command. http://c-command.com/dropdmg/ $24 and makes a nicer package for a client to download. - -- Bob Shaffer Western (The forgotten end of) Maryland -- View this message in context:

RE: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Quote Jim: >> 4D needs to alter the startup mechanism to allow developers to write code >> that >> runs before the datafile is opened. This would allow a developer to much >> more >> easily do “the right thing”, which is to put the database (you know, with >> data the >> user can change) in

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Agreed. This has been long-standing issue, even before the latest changes in OS strategies. —Bill William W. Weale Business Owners Support, LLC. Operations Analysis MIS Advising Decision Support Systems > On Nov 15, 2016, at 10:20 AM, James Crate wrote: > > Also, 4D

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote: > > ANd is this the next step in forcing all applications t use the "app > store" and the forced end of most "free form" programming? (4D > databases would fall into this category) No, it is not. This measure is in

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Thanks a lot, Tim. This worked for me. My app is unsigned. (I do not have an Apple Developer ID) My "App" when it appeared after being "unzipped" happens to sit in a folder with some other files. The zipped file is a folder with the App and a couple other files. That just happens to be how

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Have I read this correctly? If I write a small standalone app, for a friend, zip it and send it to him, At some time in the future, there will be an Mac OS version which will say the equivalent of "I'm sorry Dave, I cant let you do that". Has the world of Apple gone mad? -pm On Mon, Nov 14, 2016

RE: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

> actually - what I was pointing out is that Apple is doing all of this > security on applications which are (supposedly) 'safe', as in they have been > signed, presumably by Apple itself. > What are they doing to apps that are not signed? ^ My thoughts exactly... If the signed code (safer of

RE: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Hi Chip, > also notice this si specifically referencing "Signed Applications" Yes this is information came from Apple's changes to Gatekeeper, and is referenced in the documentation for code signing under the "Shipping your signed code" section. Although, if you think it doesn't/shouldn't

RE: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

also notice this si specifically referencing "Signed Applications" On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 19:36:28 +0100, Timothy Penner wrote: > Sorry Chip, I don’t know, I was paraphrasing the docs: >

RE: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

I should have also highlighted this quote from: "Starting with macOS Sierra, running a newly-downloaded app from a disk image, archive, or the Downloads directory will cause Gatekeeper to isolate that app at a unspecified read-only location in the filesystem. This will prevent the app from

RE: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Sorry Chip, I don’t know, I was paraphrasing the docs: https://developer.apple.com/library/content/technotes/tn2206/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/DTS40007919-CH1-TNTAG17 "This also applies to apps installed via ZIP or other archive formats or apps downloaded to the Downloads directory: ask the

RE: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Starting with 10.12.x Sierra, if you download an app.zip and unzip it then run it from the Downloads directory, Apple will quarantine the app into a Read-Only environment. Solution is to move it to the /Applications/ directory after unzipping it. Kind Regards, Tim PENNER

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

I did look at this because I thought that the problem might be here but not. In this regard (Sharing & Permissions) the "quarantined" and the "non-quarantined" versions of the zip file are the same. There is another section in the Get Info panel -- "More Info" where there is a bit of

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Robert Livingston wrote: > So somehow even after you have said that you want to open the file, you > cannot. In some fashion 4D sees it locked and no matter how you answer the > dialogs you cannot get the application to run. > Can you check

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

If you don't mind an installer package rather than a Zip, this got around that problem for me. It requires your Apple developer number (ABC...). I run the app at least once from the Applications folder, and make no resource folder, etc... changes after that. Then run this from the terminal.

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

Thanks for your input. But I have tried using a DMG of the application and the same problem occurs. > On Nov 14, 2016, at 7:38 AM, spiffyguy wrote: > > Apple may change the permission from zip files as you experienced. Perhaps > for mac it would be better to make a DMG

Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

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Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

time for some reading: https://developer.apple.com/library/content/technotes/tn2206/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/DTS40007919-CH1-TNTAG17 having said that, the concept of marking downloaded zip files is not a new thing. Google "com.apple.quarantine" > 2016/11/14 16:29、Robert Livingston