Re: Sharepoint vs 4D...

[Balinder Walia]

Robert,

SharePoint is Document Management System which can be linked with MS Office
Apps. It has it's own storage and I think it using SQL. It high
configurable but still SharePoint is not a tool for writing Business
Database Applications on it's own.

Be upfront and tell them that many have tried this kind of approach before
and end up spending a lot companies money and get no where or half way
through. Also it depends on what DB does if it can be redone it SP or not.
First question is find out why they want move to SP? What do they not like
about 4D? Perhaps if you can purpose to solve that problem itself they
might consider it.

If they still want to let them try and waste money and come back to you in
few years time.

Balinder

On 14 October 2016 at 02:19, Robert ListMail  wrote:

> I have client that wants to rewrite an old 4D database from scratch. At
> least one member on the board is pushing for us to consider Sharepoint or
> another non-4D approach. I know very little about SP. I'm told it's like a
> glorified excel spreadsheet Any particular points I should keep in mind
> as I defend 4D?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
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Line Breaks in 4D Loop

[Sujit Shah]

I have this piece of HTML code

The Line Breaks don't seem to work??










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Re: Listbox cell - On Data Change - how to tell old and new values?

[Keith Goebel]

Sorry everybody - I was thinking of the wrong thing when I replied (can you say 
alzheimer’s? :-)
I still don’t know how to trap for the Old value and will try Douglas’s idea.
Cheers, Keith

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> There is an event the "On after edit" - any chance you can trap for that?...
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Re: Listbox cell - On Data Change - how to tell old and new values?

[Keith Goebel]

Douglas, thanks for your reply.
There is no need to trap for other events as it all works fine - as long as you 
know to add code to specifically trap for On Data Change in the column object 
method,
This is something we’ve never had to do before for objects you set only for On 
Data Change, and still don’t for anything except selection based listboxes.
That was the reason for my headzup to others.
Cheers, Keith

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> There is an event the "On after edit" - any chance you can trap for that?...
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HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

[Sujit Shah]

Is there a magic tool that can find a mismatched tag in several hundred
lines of HTML Code?

One which can work with embedded 4D Tags??

;-)



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Sharepoint vs 4D...

[Robert ListMail]

I have client that wants to rewrite an old 4D database from scratch. At least 
one member on the board is pushing for us to consider Sharepoint or another 
non-4D approach. I know very little about SP. I'm told it's like a glorified 
excel spreadsheet Any particular points I should keep in mind as I defend 
4D?

Thanks,

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Re: How to resize PNG images for button icons

[John DeSoi]

I posted this method a while back which does not use SVG commands.

http://kb.4d.com/resources/inug?msgid=GmailId145b02d07486aa50


John DeSoi, Ph.D.

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
> 
> I have one problem with this code
> SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS
> 
> This command does not seem to be part of the 4DSVG component (v13)
> anyone have a replacement command(s)

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NULL End Point errors

[Randy Jaynes]

So I finally have an installation location where many of the clients get the 
"NULL End point error dialogs” which point me to issues with the network.

The disconnect can happen anywhere from 2 minutes to 1 hour after they first 
log in. After clicking OK through the dialogs and getting the application quit, 
they are always able to immediately log back into the server.

This is one of our OEM clients using 4D v13.5 build, mixed machines with PCs 
and a mac.

Since they first reported the problem last week, I’ve changed the client/server 
timeouts to 2 minutes, and made sure all of the PCs have their NICs set to not 
allow the computer to put them to sleep.

Power Options on the PCs also set to not go to sleep.

These changes have gotten 3 out 4 PCs to stabilize and no longer exhibit the 
problem, but I still have 1 PC that isn’t cooperating and 1 mac.

Anti-virus on the PCs is ESET, which I turned off for the 1 that is not 
cooperating, but remains on without problems for the 3 that are now working.

No Anti-virus on the mac, and I’m not aware of anything network wise that I 
could tweak.

The only thing I can think of now for the mac is perhaps the client is 
connecting over wi-fi? It’s turned on, but the ethernet cable is the preferred 
network for everything to go out.

We’ve already checked that the mac is definitely plugged into the same switch 
as the server, a 24 port D-Link DGB-1024D switch. They use 2 of these. The PCs 
are mostly on the other switch. 1 of the working ones is on the same switch as 
the server.

I’m out of ideas on the mac and this PC. Anyone else have some suggestions?

Thanks,
Randy

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Re: How to resize PNG images for button icons

[Kirk Brooks]

Chip,
Maybe that was added in v14 or v15? I pasted it in from his component and
it just worked.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org>
wrote:

> THanks!
>
> I have one problem with this code
> SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS
>
> This command does not seem to be part of the 4DSVG component (v13)
> anyone have a replacement command(s)
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Re: Many to Many Join Input Form

[pk]

Keith C., Keith B, Chuck M, and Chip S.

Wow!

Thank you all so much for taking the time to walk me through some of the 
concepts of the join table and the UI interface Mechanics.


I made it through a rough working model with your advice, now, I will go 
back and do it all from scratch (a few times :) to make sure I really 
got it.


I am still understanding the manual relations (as chip mentioned), and 
which events to use where for totals, updating/modifying fields etc. The 
drag and drop UI is a new concept for me, I had no idea...neat.


All the best.

On 10/11/2016 04:09 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote:

Paul,
This is a problem that really is about the UI more than the mechanics of
how the data are connected. What makes it difficult is that the 'best' way
to look at it really depends on your point of view at the moment.


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Re: How to resize PNG images for button icons

[Wayne Stewart]

Hi,

For those that went to the world tour last year there was a php
example written by Angelo Caroprese.

Very easy to use, but I'm not certain if I'm allowed to post it here
though, so I'll check with him first.

Regards,

Wayne


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On 14 October 2016 at 08:14, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
> THanks!
>
> I have one problem with this code
> SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS
>
> This command does not seem to be part of the 4DSVG component (v13)
> anyone have a replacement command(s)
>
> THanks
>
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 14:02:13 -0700, Kirk Brooks wrote:
>> I'm going to seek to close this out by posting Miyako's method for
>> accomplishing my original question plus a trivial addition of my own. This
>> really demonstrates the power of SVG. My part is adding $2. You pass in a
>> picture and the method returns a 4 line version of the original for use as
>> a picture button. If you include $2 the picture is transformed into a
>> square of that size and then converted.
>>
>> You can just paste this into your db now - no plugin required, only the
>> 4D_SVG component.
>>
>>   //  Pic_make_4stateIcon
>>   // Written by: Miyako
>>   // --
>>   // Method: Pic_make_4stateIcon (picture{;longint}) -> picture
>>   // $1 is a picture
>>   // $2 is the target size of the final icon -  will be square
>>   // $0 is a 4 state icon image made from that picture
>>   // Purpose: takes the picture in $1 and generates a new picture with
>>   // the original image and the 3 other icon states:
>>   //  1)normal / 2)clicked / 3)hover / 4)disabled
>>
>>
>> C_PICTURE($1;$0)
>> C_LONGINT($2;$width;$height)
>>
>> C_PICTURE($normal;$click;$hover;$disabled)
>> C_TEXT($svg;$g;$image)
>> C_REAL($x;$y)
>>
>>   // Original image
>> $normal:=$1
>>
>> If (Count parameters>1)
>>
>> PICTURE PROPERTIES($normal;$width;$height)
>> $x:=$2/$width
>> $y:=$2/$height
>> TRANSFORM PICTURE($normal;Scale;$x;$y)
>>
>> End if
>>
>> $svg:=SVG_New
>> $g:=SVG_New_group ($svg)
>> $image:=SVG_New_embedded_image ($g;$normal)
>>
>>   //Click: add more bright
>> SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS ($g;1.2)
>> $click:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)
>>
>>   //Hover: add more bright to previous image
>> SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS ($g;1.35)
>> $hover:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)
>>
>>   //Disabled: reduce brightness and set grayscale
>> SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS ($g;0.7)
>> $disabled:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)
>> TRANSFORM PICTURE($disabled;Fade to grey scale)
>>
>> SVG_CLEAR ($svg)
>>
>> $0:=$normal/$click/$hover/$disabled
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Kirk Brooks  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a cool set of PNG icons drawn at 512 x512 px. If I drop them onto a
>>> form they look great and resize perfectly. If I include one in a button (
>>> source = file; Images/png/cancel-button.png) they are inserted at full
>>> size which doesn't work very well.
>>>
>>> Is there a way I can cause the PNG to resize without either loading the
>>> image into a variable or manage it as a separate element on the form?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kirk Brooks
>>> San Francisco, CA
>>> ===
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: How to resize PNG images for button icons

[Chip Scheide]

THanks!

I have one problem with this code
SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS

This command does not seem to be part of the 4DSVG component (v13)
anyone have a replacement command(s)

THanks

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 14:02:13 -0700, Kirk Brooks wrote:
> I'm going to seek to close this out by posting Miyako's method for
> accomplishing my original question plus a trivial addition of my own. This
> really demonstrates the power of SVG. My part is adding $2. You pass in a
> picture and the method returns a 4 line version of the original for use as
> a picture button. If you include $2 the picture is transformed into a
> square of that size and then converted.
> 
> You can just paste this into your db now - no plugin required, only the
> 4D_SVG component.
> 
>   //  Pic_make_4stateIcon
>   // Written by: Miyako
>   // --
>   // Method: Pic_make_4stateIcon (picture{;longint}) -> picture
>   // $1 is a picture
>   // $2 is the target size of the final icon -  will be square
>   // $0 is a 4 state icon image made from that picture
>   // Purpose: takes the picture in $1 and generates a new picture with
>   // the original image and the 3 other icon states:
>   //  1)normal / 2)clicked / 3)hover / 4)disabled
> 
> 
> C_PICTURE($1;$0)
> C_LONGINT($2;$width;$height)
> 
> C_PICTURE($normal;$click;$hover;$disabled)
> C_TEXT($svg;$g;$image)
> C_REAL($x;$y)
> 
>   // Original image
> $normal:=$1
> 
> If (Count parameters>1)
> 
> PICTURE PROPERTIES($normal;$width;$height)
> $x:=$2/$width
> $y:=$2/$height
> TRANSFORM PICTURE($normal;Scale;$x;$y)
> 
> End if
> 
> $svg:=SVG_New
> $g:=SVG_New_group ($svg)
> $image:=SVG_New_embedded_image ($g;$normal)
> 
>   //Click: add more bright
> SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS ($g;1.2)
> $click:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)
> 
>   //Hover: add more bright to previous image
> SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS ($g;1.35)
> $hover:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)
> 
>   //Disabled: reduce brightness and set grayscale
> SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS ($g;0.7)
> $disabled:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)
> TRANSFORM PICTURE($disabled;Fade to grey scale)
> 
> SVG_CLEAR ($svg)
> 
> $0:=$normal/$click/$hover/$disabled
> 
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Kirk Brooks  wrote:
> 
>> I have a cool set of PNG icons drawn at 512 x512 px. If I drop them onto a
>> form they look great and resize perfectly. If I include one in a button (
>> source = file; Images/png/cancel-button.png) they are inserted at full
>> size which doesn't work very well.
>> 
>> Is there a way I can cause the PNG to resize without either loading the
>> image into a variable or manage it as a separate element on the form?
>> 
>> ​Thanks​
>> 
>> --
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>> San Francisco, CA
>> ===
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: How to resize PNG images for button icons

[Kirk Brooks]

I'm going to seek to close this out by posting Miyako's method for
accomplishing my original question plus a trivial addition of my own. This
really demonstrates the power of SVG. My part is adding $2. You pass in a
picture and the method returns a 4 line version of the original for use as
a picture button. If you include $2 the picture is transformed into a
square of that size and then converted.

You can just paste this into your db now - no plugin required, only the
4D_SVG component.

  //  Pic_make_4stateIcon
  // Written by: Miyako
  // --
  // Method: Pic_make_4stateIcon (picture{;longint}) -> picture
  // $1 is a picture
  // $2 is the target size of the final icon -  will be square
  // $0 is a 4 state icon image made from that picture
  // Purpose: takes the picture in $1 and generates a new picture with
  // the original image and the 3 other icon states:
  //  1)normal / 2)clicked / 3)hover / 4)disabled


C_PICTURE($1;$0)
C_LONGINT($2;$width;$height)

C_PICTURE($normal;$click;$hover;$disabled)
C_TEXT($svg;$g;$image)
C_REAL($x;$y)

  // Original image
$normal:=$1

If (Count parameters>1)

PICTURE PROPERTIES($normal;$width;$height)
$x:=$2/$width
$y:=$2/$height
TRANSFORM PICTURE($normal;Scale;$x;$y)

End if

$svg:=SVG_New
$g:=SVG_New_group ($svg)
$image:=SVG_New_embedded_image ($g;$normal)

  //Click: add more bright
SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS ($g;1.2)
$click:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)

  //Hover: add more bright to previous image
SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS ($g;1.35)
$hover:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)

  //Disabled: reduce brightness and set grayscale
SVG_SET_BRIGHTNESS ($g;0.7)
$disabled:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($svg)
TRANSFORM PICTURE($disabled;Fade to grey scale)

SVG_CLEAR ($svg)

$0:=$normal/$click/$hover/$disabled

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Kirk Brooks  wrote:

> I have a cool set of PNG icons drawn at 512 x512 px. If I drop them onto a
> form they look great and resize perfectly. If I include one in a button (
> source = file; Images/png/cancel-button.png) they are inserted at full
> size which doesn't work very well.
>
> Is there a way I can cause the PNG to resize without either loading the
> image into a variable or manage it as a separate element on the form?
>
> ​Thanks​
>
> --
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> San Francisco, CA
> ===
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Re: How to resize PNG images for button icons

[Kirk Brooks]

Yep - Miyako just gets things done. Thanks Miyako.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:35 AM, Arnaud de Montard  wrote:
>
> Fortunately, it seems my pitiful 4 states icon designer career is ended
> with this:
> 
> Thanks again, Miyako!
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Re: v13 - C/S getting web server started

[Pierre Coulombe]

Well, code is probably too vast a word for typing the following into terminal:
sudo apachectl stop

terminal will ask you for  password of the administrator logged in.

Pierre

> On 13 Oct 2016, at 1:09 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
> 
> I think I have already done that - but suere code to stop it would be 
> good :)
> 
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:06:08 -0400, Pierre Coulombe wrote:
>> Aso, depending on the OS, port 0 is configured automatically for 
>> Apache server. You have to stop that running before you can use 4D on 
>> port 80. Try port 8080. If you really need port 80, you can stop the 
>> apache server using Terminal. I can send you the coding.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2016, at 11:15 AM, Chip Scheide 
>>> <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> THanks!
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:08:11 +, Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) wrote:
> Box is:
> Mac Mini - so (thanks) but windows command line will not help much  :)
 
 netstat -an | less
 
 or
 
 netstat -an | grep 80
 
 or
 
 netstat -anp | grep 80, than you can even see the process in question 
 
 
 HTH
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Re: v13 - C/S getting web server started

[Chip Scheide]

I think I have already done that - but suere code to stop it would be 
good :)

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:06:08 -0400, Pierre Coulombe wrote:
> Aso, depending on the OS, port 0 is configured automatically for 
> Apache server. You have to stop that running before you can use 4D on 
> port 80. Try port 8080. If you really need port 80, you can stop the 
> apache server using Terminal. I can send you the coding.
> 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2016, at 11:15 AM, Chip Scheide 
>> <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
>> 
>> THanks!
>> 
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:08:11 +, Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) wrote:
 Box is:
 Mac Mini - so (thanks) but windows command line will not help much  :)
>>> 
>>> netstat -an | less
>>> 
>>> or
>>> 
>>> netstat -an | grep 80
>>> 
>>> or
>>> 
>>> netstat -anp | grep 80, than you can even see the process in question 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> Lutz
>>> 
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Re: v13 - C/S getting web server started

[Pierre Coulombe]

Aso, depending on the OS, port 0 is configured automatically for Apache server. 
You have to stop that running before you can use 4D on port 80. Try port 8080. 
If you really need port 80, you can stop the apache server using Terminal. I 
can send you the coding.


> On 13 Oct 2016, at 11:15 AM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
> 
> THanks!
> 
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:08:11 +, Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) wrote:
>>> Box is:
>>> Mac Mini - so (thanks) but windows command line will not help much  :)
>> 
>> netstat -an | less
>> 
>> or
>> 
>> netstat -an | grep 80
>> 
>> or
>> 
>> netstat -anp | grep 80, than you can even see the process in question 
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> Lutz
>> 
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>> 10997 Berlin
>> http://www.agendo.de/
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Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Arnaud de Montard]

> Le 13 oct. 2016 à 18:11, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> a écrit :
> 
> [...]
> Then for the most part you can define your own - even (again mostly) 
> for key strokes that 4D does not give you access to.

I don't understand why the shortcut list cannot be sorted. Stings my eyes. 

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Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Chip Scheide]

really the solution for your own work environment is a macro key utility
Like the old Quikeys

Then for the most part you can define your own - even (again mostly) 
for key strokes that 4D does not give you access to.

I say mostly, as I have NOT figured a way to get  to step into a 
method and have to use F8



On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:36:30 +0200, Arnaud de Montard wrote:
> 
>> Le 13 oct. 2016 à 16:21, Jim Medlen 
>>  a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> As mentioned ctrl-k (command-k) opens a method also ctrl-l (command+l)
>> opens a form.
> 
> ctrl+l has changed, it opens "go to line…" dialog (since v13, 
> AFAICR). It still works when explorer is the front window. 
> ctrl+k opens a form _if the quotes around are selected - type ctrl+b 
> to expand selection. 
> BTW ctrl+b is my favorite shortcut in method editor. 
> 
> 
>> Is there a key combination that will find / open / goto an object on a
>> form ?
> 
> I'm not aware of that. 
> (except: know the object name, search in development, double clic in 
> the result. Yes, I'm stupid)
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Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Arnaud de Montard]

> Le 13 oct. 2016 à 16:21, Jim Medlen  a écrit :
> 
> 
> As mentioned ctrl-k (command-k) opens a method also ctrl-l (command+l)
> opens a form.

ctrl+l has changed, it opens "go to line…" dialog (since v13, AFAICR). It still 
works when explorer is the front window. 
ctrl+k opens a form _if the quotes around are selected - type ctrl+b to expand 
selection. 
BTW ctrl+b is my favorite shortcut in method editor. 


> Is there a key combination that will find / open / goto an object on a
> form ?

I'm not aware of that. 
(except: know the object name, search in development, double clic in the 
result. Yes, I'm stupid)

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RE: v13 - C/S getting web server started

[Epperlein, Lutz (agendo)]

> Box is:
> Mac Mini - so (thanks) but windows command line will not help much  :)

netstat -an | less

or

netstat -an | grep 80

or

netstat -anp | grep 80, than you can even see the process in question 


HTH
Lutz

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RE: v13 - C/S getting web server started

[Chip Scheide]

THanks!

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:08:11 +, Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) wrote:
>> Box is:
>> Mac Mini - so (thanks) but windows command line will not help much  :)
> 
> netstat -an | less
> 
> or
> 
> netstat -an | grep 80
> 
> or
> 
> netstat -anp | grep 80, than you can even see the process in question 
> 
> 
> HTH
> Lutz
> 
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> Lutz Epperlein  
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> 10997 Berlin
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RE: v13 - C/S getting web server started

[Chip Scheide]

no, no Skype.
Box is:
Mac Mini - so (thanks) but windows command line will not help much  :)
THe mini is running OS X Server 10.9.5

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:33:09 -0500, Stephen J. Orth wrote:
> Chip,
> 
> From the Windows command shell, type the following:
> 
>  netstat -an | more
> 
> This will show you what is being used.
> 
> Also, you don't happen to have Skype running on this box do you?  The 
> default configuration of Skype will use Port 80, and this has to be 
> disabled.
> 
> Steve
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Chip 
> Scheide
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:00 AM
> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> Subject: Re: v13 - C/S getting web server started
> 
> OK - this whole 'web' thing
> : )
> 
> 
> I have scanned, using Network Utility - from a different machine, the 
> 4D server computer in question, port 80 responds as HTTP
> basically I am asking... how do I check on what (if anything) is using 
> port 80?
> Thanks
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RE: v13 - C/S getting web server started

[Stephen J. Orth]

Chip,

From the Windows command shell, type the following:

 netstat -an | more

This will show you what is being used.

Also, you don't happen to have Skype running on this box do you?  The default 
configuration of Skype will use Port 80, and this has to be disabled.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Chip Scheide
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:00 AM
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: v13 - C/S getting web server started

OK - this whole 'web' thing
: )


I have scanned, using Network Utility - from a different machine, the 
4D server computer in question, port 80 responds as HTTP
basically I am asking... how do I check on what (if anything) is using 
port 80?
Thanks

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Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Jim Medlen]

As mentioned ctrl-k (command-k) opens a method also ctrl-l (command+l)
opens a form.


Is there a key combination that will find / open / goto an object on a
form ?



On 10/12/16, 1:24 PM, "4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of
4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of
4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com> wrote:

>There *is* a very easy way to open the Explorer using Ctrl-k - place the
>insertion point on an empty row of text in the method editor, press
>Ctrl-k,
>and 4D opens the Explorer.


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Re: v13 - C/S getting web server started

[Chip Scheide]

OK - this whole 'web' thing
: )


I have scanned, using Network Utility - from a different machine, the 
4D server computer in question, port 80 responds as HTTP
basically I am asking... how do I check on what (if anything) is using 
port 80?
Thanks
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:47:02 -0400, Chip Scheide wrote:
> I do not think so - I will check on port 80 
> no license - but as I understand the web server is supposed to run for 
> 30 minutes, primarily for testing purposes. - which is what I am trying 
> to do  :)
> 
> Thanks
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:29:54 -0400, Jeffrey Kain wrote:
>> Also do you have a license for the web server?
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Randy Engle <4d.l...@xc2.us> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chip,
>>> 
>>> Is it possible that something else is running that is using Port 80?
>>> 
>>> Randy Engle
>>> XC2 Software LLC
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Chip Scheide
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:38 PM
>>> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>>> Subject: v13 - C/S getting web server started
>>> 
>>> I can not get the web server started.
>>> 
>>> I have the database setting "start web server on startup" turned on.
>>>  http server - stopped
>>> I have created a method with the command Web Start Server, and run 
>>> it via Execute on server
>>>  http server - stopped
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Re: v13 - C/S getting web server started

[Chip Scheide]

I do not think so - I will check on port 80 
no license - but as I understand the web server is supposed to run for 
30 minutes, primarily for testing purposes. - which is what I am trying 
to do  :)

Thanks
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:29:54 -0400, Jeffrey Kain wrote:
> Also do you have a license for the web server?
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Randy Engle <4d.l...@xc2.us> wrote:
>> 
>> Chip,
>> 
>> Is it possible that something else is running that is using Port 80?
>> 
>> Randy Engle
>> XC2 Software LLC
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Chip Scheide
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:38 PM
>> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> Subject: v13 - C/S getting web server started
>> 
>> I can not get the web server started.
>> 
>> I have the database setting "start web server on startup" turned on.
>>  http server - stopped
>> I have created a method with the command Web Start Server, and run 
>> it via Execute on server
>>  http server - stopped
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Re: 4D Chart for 4Dv15

[Miguel Gonzalez]

Thank you very much to all that answer to my question.


We have more than 200 graphs to be converted in about 2 weeks for
getting a new business. We are in a hurry and I don't know if that is
possible just by redoing again those graphs.

Is it easily change 4D Chart graphs using the new command in v15 GRAPH?
Has someone translated their graphs to version 15?
If that is so which approach did you use?


Many thanks again.


Miguel

On 12 October 2016 at 17:11, ADeeg  wrote:
> Miguel Gonzalez-4 wrote
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a plugin or component of 4D Chart for 4Dv15?
>>
>> I'll appreciate any comment.
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
>> --
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>> AcuBase Ltd.
>
> Hi Miguel,
>
> there is a commercial 4d chart component
>
> http://www.bluecompany.fr/
> http://bluecompany.fr/index.php/en/bluecompany/news/55-4d-summit-europe-and-us-2013-gold-sponsor
>
> Announced several years ago on a summit. Ask there
>
> Regards Armin
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>
>
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Re: Is there a 4D View User Manual?

[Bill Weale]

Thanks Chris and Bob…

Yes, it appears the v 2004 version is the latest.

Bill


> On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Chris Patterson  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Yes, there is a 4D View User Manual, I have a PDF one that I appear to have
> downloaded as part of 4D v14.
> However, it does not seem to have been updated since 4D 2004!
> Both the v14 and v2004 copies I have are 186 pages and Copyright 2005.
> I just checked the 4D DocCenter and it is not there.
> They must have it, but I am not sure how one accesses the archives.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 

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Re: How to resize PNG images for button icons

[Sujit Shah]

The icon library I purchased has all states so no mucking around.

On Thursday, 13 October 2016, Arnaud de Montard  wrote:

>
> > Le 12 oct. 2016 à 18:48, Lo > a écrit :
> >
> > [...]
> > Can I say just how much I hate Photoshop and the time I spend bending
> graphics for buttons...
>
> Being totally unable to understand photoshop, I used GraphicConverter.
> Fortunately, it seems my pitiful 4 states icon designer career is ended
> with this:
> 
> Thanks again, Miyako!
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Re: How to resize PNG images for button icons

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> Le 12 oct. 2016 à 18:48, Lo  a écrit :
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> [...]
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Being totally unable to understand photoshop, I used GraphicConverter. 
Fortunately, it seems my pitiful 4 states icon designer career is ended with 
this:

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