Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
This has been a fascinating thread. I was kind of surprised that no one came out and said "yes, 9front all the way", nor did anyone say they had 9atom working. Ideally, I'd like to have 9atom on VMware, but since it isn't maintained anymore either, 9front looks like the way to go. 9legacy

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-11 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
__ From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net <9fans-boun...@9fans.net> on behalf of Giacomo Tesio <giac...@tesio.it> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:20 PM To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Subject: Re: [9fans] There is no fork 2018-02-12 0:48 GMT+01:00 Benjamin Huntsman <bhunts...@mail

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-11 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
research operating system (that also includes several of 9front's improvements). Jehanne is the project that diverged most from the original Plan9 design, with its own set of crazy decisions, but currently it's an unstable toy. Giacomo 2018-02-10 3:48 GMT+01:00 Benjamin Huntsman <bhunts...@mail2.cu-p

Re: [9fans] software archaeology

2018-02-11 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
1st, 2nd, and 3rd ed floppies, a bigger problem will be to find a floppy drive... i will try and generate some images. -Steve On 5 Feb 2018, at 04:24, Benjamin Huntsman <bhunts...@mail2.cu-portland.edu<mailto:bhunts...@mail2.cu-portland.edu>> wrote: Bizarre and random question, but anyon

[9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-09 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Just curious as to the state of the union. Is 9front pretty much the de facto "official" Plan 9 these days, or does anyone still use or maintain any of the following: 9atom NIX 9legacy The original Bell Labs distribution Thanks for your input! -Ben

Re: [9fans] drawterm on osx

2018-02-08 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
9vx has the same problem... From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net <9fans-boun...@9fans.net> on behalf of Steve Simon Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 2:49 PM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: [9fans] drawterm on osx Anyone built drawterm on osx recently.

[9fans] software archaeology

2018-02-04 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Bizarre and random question, but anyone still have any of the original 3rd Edition floppy images around? Also, anyone remember, did the web-based floppy builder from back in the day actually do anything other than tweak the plan9.ini? Thanks!

[9fans] Distros

2016-09-11 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Hi! Since a similar line of conversation came up recently, I thought I'd ask... Maybe this was just my perception, but I remember that years ago, there seemed to be a pretty strong aversion to forking the official distribution from Bell Labs. These days I'm not certain where the

[9fans] plan9port on AIX

2015-05-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
So, it's been a few years since I did any work on it, but I'm trying to update the AIX support a bit. I know there aren't lots of home AIX users, but it seems everywhere I've worked professionally has had gobs of AIX deployed. My primary goal is to have sam and acme running. I got lots of

Re: [9fans] How to reboot with normal user

2013-02-20 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
How does one reboot remotely (from drawterm)? Couldn't consolefs be rigged to allow certain named users (or a group) to do things like what he's asking for? -Ben

Re: [9fans] How to reboot with normal user

2013-02-20 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
why would rigging be involved? it naturally does that. when i'm doing kernel debugging, this is a pretty natural way to go: C victim victim# ^P cpu0: exiting - erik I thought so. I just said rigging because I didn't remember how to get it set up. :) -Ben

Re: [9fans] 9vx on mountain lion

2013-02-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Nice... I was just getting that same error a few days ago when I tried to build it too. I chalked it up to some earlier posts that said something along the lines of use a binary from Snow Leopard... and didn't want to ask around to see if it's been fixed. Glad to see I'm not alone... -Ben

Re: [9fans] 3e

2013-02-10 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Not sure why the licensing question came up. It was free back then, so I don't know why it wouldn't be now, unless Bell Labs revoked the previous license. More than anything I was trying to figure out the last release date. I've got a plan9.9gz file dated 20010327, and some odd patch files,

[9fans] 3e

2013-02-09 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Because I'm a bit of a history buff too, and I'm looking at the Nemo book... Does anyone remember what the last and final date of the 3rd Edition was, and does anyone have the plan9.9gz and floppies around anymore? I was also trying to remember, did anyone get it working under VMware, or was

[9fans] ppxeload nix

2013-02-06 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I've downloaded the nix bits from http://code.google.com/p/nix-os/ and compiled it under 9vx on OSX, but I'm having some trouble getting the resultant kernel to boot. My target for now is a VMware Fusion VM, which I've got set up to PXE boot via nix's ppxeload. It downloads and runs ppxeload

Re: [9fans] ppxeload nix

2013-02-06 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
You should use Plan 9's (new) 9load ... Does that go for 9pxeload as well? Is there a way to specify the TFTP server address if it's different than the DHCP server? Thanks! -Ben

Re: [9fans] Uriel

2012-10-14 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I'll second that. Made for many an interesting conversation! RIP -Ben From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [9fans-boun...@9fans.net] on behalf of Devon H. O'Dell [devon.od...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 1:17 PM To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell

Re: [9fans] dns

2012-08-20 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Has anyone else been seeing their Plan 9 dns servers work for a little while and then stop responding? I had that, and other problems with it left and right. I probably had to restart DNS a few times per week. I was able to get it to support a local Windows Active Directory domain though,

Re: [9fans] lucidasans and 日本語表示

2012-04-28 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
The real question is what the default font should be Not that my opinion counts for anything, but changing the font to latin1.7.font (or sometimes typelatin1.7.font) is usually the first thing I do on a fresh Plan 9 install. It's very readable, and you can fit a whole lot more on an average

Re: [9fans] dns SRV records

2011-04-28 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Investigating the possibility of replacing the MS DNS on Plan9 DNS,not found in the man ndb mention of records of type SRV. It is necessary to support Microsoft Active Directory. Maybe I missed something? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_record I got AD to work with Plan 9 DNS just last year.

Re: [9fans] FORTRAN and tools [was: Modern development language for Plan 9

2011-02-05 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Agreed, but is there a FORTRAN compiler/cross-compiler for Plan 9? I remember someone on here mentioning having a translator that could produce plan 9 executables from output from XLC or XLF as part of the Blue Gene stuff... don't remember the exact details, but that sounds like a very worthy

Re: [9fans] FORTRAN and tools [was: Modern development language for Plan 9

2011-02-05 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
unless your memory confused that with the fact that I can run Blue Gene binaries produced by XLC/XLF, I don't recall what you mean ... ron Haha, yes, that's it. My memory indeed got confused. Sorry for the noise!

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-22 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
There's a good chance your /tmp issue is not permissions, but a lack of /tmp being mounted. If your hostowner doesn't have a lib/profile or its lib/profile doesn't mount /tmp, then you won't be able to write anything to it. That was definitely it. I had been logging into the hostowner profile

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
there is a pull script in glenda's bin. use that. - erik I was giving that a shot, but get a few errors. Looks like it's not pulling new files: ! sys/src/cmd/ratrace.c: not replicated; will not update ! sys/src/9/kw/devtwsi.c: not replicated; will not update ! sys/src/9/omap/screen.c: not

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
this is almost certainly incorrect. (you don't mention you're using 9vx' #Z.) plan 9 fileservers that store files on disk (fossil, kfs, kenfs, cwfs, etc) do maintain their own groups. you may wish to put your fs into allow mode for pull. it's plan 9 file servers living in the local kernel, e.g.

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I don't believe you can simply switch fossil into and out of allow mode, you can specify -P to open to disable permission checking (enable allow) see fossilcons(8) but that would require a reboot. As I described before, this should not be necessary, and is not for me. just run bull as hostowner,

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
There's a good chance your /tmp issue is not permissions, but a lack of /tmp being mounted. If your hostowner doesn't have a lib/profile or its lib/profile doesn't mount /tmp, then you won't be able to write anything to it. Ah! That's probably it. My hostowner definitely doesn't have a

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug port available

2010-10-20 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Speaking of which, what is the official method of staying up to date these days, especially on a combined CPU/auth server? I keep getting various permission errors if I do 'replica/pull /dist/replica network', even on freshly-installed systems... Thanks much!! -Ben winmail.dat

Re: [9fans] permissions

2010-10-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
to elaborate: group permission is not implemented by any kernel file servers in the standard distribution. And yet, it honors others permissions? I can set the r bit on others, and the cat then works... -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net on behalf of erik quanstrom Sent:

Re: [9fans] permissions

2010-10-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Right. Aside from the persistent data file servers, like kfs, kenfs, and fossil (as Erik mentioned), there's not much that treats groups in the expected way. So if you'll continue to pardon my asking, who exactly tells a given file server what constitutes a user or a group? In this particular

Re: [9fans] permissions

2010-10-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
...Plus, there's a chicken and egg problem. The server which gives you /dev/sd00/nvram has to approve of the attach when fossil wants to open its /dev/sd00/fossil, but until fossil has opened it, there's no way of knowing what's in /adm/users on that particular fossil. So for in-kernel file

Re: [9fans] permissions

2010-10-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
That starts to get into almost philosophical security issues. To some extent I consider this a good thing. Physical access is the ultimate privilige, so you need to physically protect your data to the extent that it's worth to you. If you've got physical protection anyway, then making physical

[9fans] permissions

2010-10-16 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I probably need to go read the papers regarding permissions 10 more times, but this just doesn't seem right to me. I'm logged in as 'ben' via drawterm: cpu% cat /adm/users adm:adm:adm:sys,bootes,ben ben:ben::adm,sys bootes:bootes::ben glenda:glenda:glenda: none:none:: noworld:noworld::

[9fans] latest plan9.iso

2010-09-04 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Anyone tried to install from a very recent plan9.iso? I just downloaded the latest one this morning. I'm trying to install into a VMware ESXi virtual machine. I installed another just about a week ago, and did not encounter any trouble. I frequently have to plug in the correct SCSI device

Re: [9fans] latest plan9.iso

2010-09-04 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
apologies for the noise... please disregard. Thought I had the lsilogic controller working once before, but guess not. buslogic it is. -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net on behalf of Benjamin Huntsman Sent: Sat 9/4/2010 3:37 PM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: [9fans] latest

Re: [9fans] DNS... don't ask

2010-04-13 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Also, what do you make of this? svr hostname= dc1\.testdom\.test\.local._kpasswd._udp.testdom.test.local *** Error: record size incorrect (39 != 37) *** ns2.test.local can't find _kpasswd._udp.testdom.test.local: server failed The query should return an svr hostname of

[9fans] DNS dynamic update

2010-03-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Hi! I'm trying to set up an application(don't ask :) ) on my LAN that more-or-less requires the ability to perform dynamic updates of DNS. I'm currently using a Plan 9 system to serve DNS, but DHCP is being served by a FreeBSD machine (because it supplies the correct info for non-Plan 9

Re: [9fans] DNS dynamic update

2010-03-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
(because it supplies the correct info for non-Plan 9 hosts). What info did your hosts need that Plan 9's dhcpd didn't supply? Specifically, Plan 9's dhcpd does not supply a context-specific DNS suffix (ie, default domain name), which Windows systems need in order to resolve hosts by short

[9fans] Plan 9 as local DHCP/DNS server

2010-03-07 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I'm trying to get a Plan 9 system set up to serve as a DHCP/DNS server on my local LAN. The clients are mostly Windows systems, with some Macs, etc, thrown in. Here are the relevant bits from /lib/ndb/local: ipnet=internal ip=10.0.0.0 ipmask 255.255.0.0 ipsubmask=255.255.255.0

Re: [9fans] evoluent mouse review

2010-01-04 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Anyone remember or still use the Depraz red mouse? I thought I had heard someone figured out how to convert them to USB... I've got three brand-new-in-box, so at least one of them is itching to be usb-ifyed. I am planning to play with an Apple Magic Mouse using Paul Lalonde's patch (soon to

[9fans] stripe fossil?

2009-12-11 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
is it possible to make a filesystem (fossil or kfs) span (stripe or cat) multiple disks, on a cpu or terminal, or is that only possible with the old fs kernel? Or, is the only way to accomplish this through a hardware RAID controller? Thanks much!! -Ben

Re: [9fans] stripe fossil?

2009-12-11 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
see fs(3). - erik Exactly what I was after. Thanks much!! -Ben winmail.dat

Re: [9fans] original cpu server

2009-11-02 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
does anyone know what hardware the first (or even proto-) cpu server ran on? I thought the original CPU server was the SGI Power 4D, with the i960-based optical connection. ...unless there was something older? -Ben winmail.dat

[9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Does anyone here know if it's possible to obtain printed copies of nemo's book if you live in the United States? Dykinson's website doesn't seem to offer overseas shipping... Thanks in advance! -Ben

Re: [9fans] nemo book

2009-08-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I'am intrigued, you have a weblink to where I could buy a printed copy (in europe)? I'm not sure you can order it online, but here is the link: http://www.dykinson.com/book--Notes_on_the_plan_9tm_3rd_edition_kernel_source--232471.html winmail.dat

Re: [9fans] Dell E4300?

2009-08-16 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
there's a new ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other/9atom.iso.bz2 The second part of your reply appears to not be directed to this issue, but something similar. I don't remember writing that. Anyway, we're getting much further, but the boot process still dies: ... pat: 0107040600070406 ELCR: 0C08

Re: [9fans] Dell E4300?

2009-08-16 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I'm installing now and will post the results. Okay, the install works perfectly, and I'm up and running! Many thanks! I recall reading that the CD is otherwise identical to the stock version. So, if I recompile the kernel, it'll break, right? What utterances do I need to enter in order to

[9fans] Dell E4300?

2009-08-15 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Anyone here had a chance to try a Dell E4300? It's a nice, compact system, but it really refuses to boot Plan 9: It has on-board SATA hd, SATA cd-rom, etc. I tried quanstro's 9atom.iso, and with the SATA controller in AHCI mode, it'll start booting, but hangs at: 4 =

Re: [9fans] Dell E4300?

2009-08-15 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
i'll add this southbridge to my cd. this will definately not hurt. could you send me pci output? if you use lspci from linux make sure to use -vn so the vid/did appear. the descriptive strings are fairly useless. Sorry, I don't use Linux much. This machine currently runs OpenSolaris. Below

[9fans] file server?

2009-08-13 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Since the how-to's are being discussed recently, I thought it would be a good time to ask: Once, it used to be the standard configuration to have one machine as a CPU/auth server, one machine as a file server, and one machine as a terminal, for a total of three systems, if one had the

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
anyway, to ron's question, for those keeping score: Sun: released their stuff; recently acquired by Oracle. NeXT: acquired by Apple, ate it from within. MIPS: acquired by SGI. a smaller MIPS was then spit out when SGI realized Itanium was their future (oops). SGI: went backrupt, twice, then

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-07 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
And the floppy is available at http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/2nd_edition/plan9.att.com/pcdist/ but I have not tested it, if you do I would love to hear about it. I had found that about a year ago, and was able to get the floppy set up and running in Virtual PC without much trouble. It'll only work

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 manuals

2009-08-07 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Silly question: is there any way of buying 3d edition (or better yet 2nd edition) original manuals? I had always thought it was a bit taboo to say hey, anyone want to sell their 2nd Edition copy?, though I'm sure there there would be several eager buyers on this list... I'm one of them, but

Re: [9fans] iso experiment

2009-08-03 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Oops... looks like I forgot to finish my thought: I was one of those people, and I must say, the sd drivers work great and seem to offer a degree of flexibility that the stock driver does not. Why not just incorporate them into the official distribution? -Ben winmail.dat

Re: [9fans] iso experiment

2009-08-03 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
i've suggested using my contrib/sd to a few people who are having trouble with sd devices I was one of those people, and I must say, the sd drivers work great and seem to offer a degree of flexibility that the Why not just incorporate them into the official distribution? -Ben winmail.dat

[9fans] off topic: manual sets

2009-07-30 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Sorry for the off-topic post, but I'm striking out on google, and I'm virtually certain that someone here will know... Does anyone happen to have the ISBN's for the 7th Edition manual set? Volume I is 0-03-061742-1, but I can't seem to find the others... Thanks in advance! -Ben

Re: [9fans] off topic: manual sets

2009-07-30 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I sure do, but I'm looking for the printed copies. Thanks though!! -Ben -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net on behalf of Steve Simon Sent: Thu 7/30/2009 2:32 PM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] off topic: manual sets also, do you know about:

Re: [9fans] Google finally announces their lightweight OS

2009-07-08 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Without this getting into a holy war, what Geoff told me was that the amd64 work was for headless CPU servers, which is only mildly useful to me anyway. If it was released perhaps somebody would add the missing drivers, who knows... As things stand, we will never know. Speaking of the amd64

Re: [9fans] Google finally announces their lightweight OS

2009-07-08 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Before my signature, I'd really like to reiterate that I did not bring up amd64 to open a can of worms. -dho I just thought I'd ask the question since it came up, as I've been wondering also. However, I don't think it needs to be a can of worms if we as a community don't make it into one.

Re: [9fans] Plan9 - the next 20 years

2009-04-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Speaking of NUMA and such though, is there even any support for it in the kernel? I know we have a 10gb Ethernet driver, but what about cluster interconnects such as InfiniBand, Quadrics, or Myrinet? Are such things even desired in Plan 9? I'm glad see process migration has been mentioned

[9fans] sources browser script?

2009-04-16 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Speaking of web servers... Is the script that creates the pages for the source browsing on plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/ included in the distribution or otherwise available? It's pretty neat, and may be useful... Thanks in advance! -Ben

Re: [9fans] sources browser script?

2009-04-16 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/ip/httpd/webls.c That looks to be useful too, though that's not the script that sources is using to generate the pages. The HTML source produced by webls.c looks different than what is produced by the pages. Looks like the script in question

Re: [9fans] way OT but shocking none the less

2009-04-06 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
...SGI... was purchased for just $25M by Rackable Systems I saw that. It's a sad day when such an icon of the computer industry gets bought by some company I've never heard of for a (relatively) piddly little sum... winmail.dat

Re: [9fans] Virtual PC + Win64 = i/o errors

2009-04-06 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
do you have a way of compiling kernels? Sure do! The original copy of the same VM in question still runs fine on it's original host... Thanks much!! -Ben winmail.dat

[9fans] Virtual PC + Win64 = i/o errors

2009-04-05 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I recently switched to Windows XP x64 Edition on my two 64-Bit x86 systems. Ever since, I've had trouble with Virtual PC, where I run a couple of Plan 9 VMs. I was wondering if anyone has seen similar issues: I copied over a virtual machine from a 32-bit host, where it was running happily.

Re: [9fans] Virtual PC + Win64 = i/o errors

2009-04-05 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
fossil(#S/sdC0/fossil)...version...time... command 30 data f0caaaf8 limit f0cab8f8 dlen 8291 status 0 error 0 lba 605536 - 605536, count 16 - 16 (16) 0x00 0x06 0x6A 0x3D 0x09 0xE0 0x58 0x40: E307 0x42: Cx48: 00 0x4A: fossil: diskWriteRaw failed: /dev/sdC0/fossil: score

[9fans] drawterm font

2009-03-24 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Not a big issue, but is it possible to change the default font in drawterm? I imagine once logged in successfully, it could be changed via arguments to rio, but I'm talking about during the text-only login. I ask because my 'bootes' account's profile doesn't start rio, so I occasionally use it

Re: [9fans] drawterm font

2009-03-24 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
the bitmaps for the ascii characters are embedded in the drawterm binary. That's libdraw/defont.c, right? I'll see about swapping that around for latin1.7, my personal favorite, just for the heck of it, though for now, doing the single large window is more-or-less what I was after anyway.

Re: [9fans] Visual font viewer

2009-02-27 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
You know, this brings up a good question, which I've been pondering for some time but never asked... Does anyone remember how the Plan 9 font files came to be? I'm going to go out on a limb here and bet that some poor soul didn't enter them by hand... I'd also wager that they weren't created

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-07 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Just one line in plan9.ini and I was rocking. I'll have to break out my amber-screen vt420 and give it a try. Probably not terribly useful w/o a mouse, though! :) winmail.dat

[9fans] Itanium

2009-01-05 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I know most everyone here hates the Itanium, but it is in some pretty large and fast systems, and it's on the Top500 list. So out of curiosity, has anyone looked at putting together a compiler for Itanium, or otherwise looked at a Plan 9 port?

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-18 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I wouldn't usually do this, as I know this isn't e-bay, :) but since access to non-x86 hardware is being discussed... would anyone be interested in an IBM p630 (POWER4+)? -Ben winmail.dat

[9fans] bitsy anyone?

2008-10-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Does anyone happen to have a working bitsy kernel and paqdisk? I've tried both compiling myself and the kernel/paqdisk that used to be on nemo's contrib, both to no avail. Either way, I get a kernel panic on the iPaq. The various instructions around on the wiki and such have the user

Re: [9fans] bitsy anyone?

2008-10-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
add ramdisk0x020 0x080, I believe the command in question is: partition define ramdisk 0x20 0x60 0 I had changed it to 0x80 too, but still got the kernel panic... I'll take a look in paq.c and see if I can fix the hard-coded sizes. Thanks!! -Ben -Original

[9fans] Plan 9 on IBM hardware

2008-09-03 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
just a quick question... Has anyone managed to run Plan 9 on a pSeries system? winmail.dat

Re: [9fans] Anyone handy with Alpha assembler?

2008-08-26 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I think trap.c would be easier to work with or extend to other instructions, l.s might give better performance. That was my concern as well. The Alpha compiler doesn't optimize much. Not that optimization is going to matter much on an EV4. The problem I'm running into now is that by the time

Re: [9fans] aquarela only uses /rc/bin/9fs?

2008-08-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
The trick you want is in /rc/bin/service/startcifs - this may not be exactly the code you want but it demonstrates the technique you need. -Steve startcifs didn't work quite like what I had in mind, so I ended up modifying /rc/bin/9fs. The excerpt below gives me exactly what I wanted: ...

Re: [9fans] aquarela only uses /rc/bin/9fs?

2008-08-20 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
The trick you want is in /rc/bin/service/startcifs - this may not be exactly the code you want but it demonstrates the technique you need. -Steve That gets me a hair closer. \\myplan9server\local is still empty after using startcfs, though executing 9fs local ls /n/local gives me a listing

Re: [9fans] aquarela only uses /rc/bin/9fs?

2008-08-20 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
the correct namespace I would guess, you did do the import before you started cifs? What is there to import? I did this from the cpu/auth/fs server console: /rc/bin/service/startcifs I think you should be able to connect to \\myplan9server\root implying 9fs root, though this is just your

Re: [9fans] aquarela only uses /rc/bin/9fs?

2008-08-20 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
the correct namespace I would guess, you did do the import before you started cifs? Hmm... I used consolefs to the /srv/fscons to add srv -A test then as my user I could do \\myplan9server\test and get the root of the drive. Looks like a namespace issue after all. However, might this prevent

Re: [9fans] 2nd Edition

2008-08-19 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
this setup reminds me of the story about the priest who, playing golf against the orders of his superiors on sunday morning, hits a hole in one. ouch. supposing you're successful in getting a licence and you do great things with the next port. who are you going to tell? - erik Does the

Re: [9fans] Using the Acme Editor

2008-08-19 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
You might give Sam a try. I'm still working my way up to Acme too, but Sam has an edge over vi for me... ...Might be nice if there was an option to open a document in a default window though, but if it were a big enough concern, I've got the source and could make the change... :) -Ben

Re: [9fans] file ownership on /srv

2008-08-15 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
The third is to use consolefs, as Charles suggested, to moderate access to /srv/fscons. This has many benefits over the previous two ideas: the set of console users is defined in one easy place (the consolefs config), consolefs will multiplex output to multiple connections (unlike /srv/fscons,

[9fans] file ownership on /srv

2008-08-14 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I have a CPU/Auth server set up. I'd like to be able to add users remotely (via drawterm), rather than at the system's console. However, normally, I can't attach to /srv/fscons, and as I found, can't start another fscons and open the filesystem under it. /srv/fscons gets created at startup,

Re: [9fans] file ownership on /srv

2008-08-14 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
When you drawterm, authenticate as 'bootes' instead of your usual id. Yes that works, but isn't that similar to logging in as root to a unix box over the wire? If I were delegating add user abilities to another user, that'd mean I'd have to give them the password for bootes... Is there no way

Re: [9fans] file ownership on /srv

2008-08-14 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
(instead of drawterm, i usually just use telnet as bootes to a file/cpu/auth server for admin work.) Isn't that one of those proverbially bad admin practices? :) I know I'm guilty of it too, but I'm trying to cure myself of the habit. I did just find that if on the console I do chmod ugo+rw

Re: [9fans] Source for reading Notes on the Plan 9 3rd edition KernelSource

2008-08-12 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
From the wiki page: http://netlib.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/papers/ You can obtain the sources documented in this book from: http://plan9.escet.urjc.es/plan9jun.tgz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Michaelian Ennis Sent: Tue 8/12/2008 1:46 PM To: 9fans@9fans.net

[9fans] nextstation

2008-08-11 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I just remembered, I've got an old Nextstation Turbo Color under my desk... I know there was a port for it at one time... Does anyone still have the sources? I didn't see them on the kernel history site. Thanks in advance! winmail.dat

[9fans] plan9.ini

2008-08-07 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I had some trouble with permissions while setting up my CPU server, but thanks to the kind help of a few people here, got it running. However, I can't get it to boot up entirely without my intevention, as it always hangs on: root is from (tcp, local)[local!#S/sdC0/fossil]: I'm sure there's

[9fans] fossil permission checking

2008-08-06 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I'm having some trouble setting up a terminal (which will become a cpu/auth server). I've gotten the 9pccpuf kernel booted, and is running as the user bootes, but even from the server's console, if I type something as simple as echo hi /foo I receive the message: mounted directory forbids

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Blue Gene

2008-07-30 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
What is XLC and where can I find more information on the standard? XLC is IBM's POWER/PowerPC compiler. It produces great code, but is expensive. So, does that mean that you guys have a version of XLC that can produce Plan 9 binaries, or are you using some other method to convert it's output?

[9fans] Sam on 9pm or plan9port

2008-07-22 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
As far as I could find, there isn't a newer version of sam for Windows then the one from 9pm, so I started trying to port the plan9port version. So far, I got all of the stuff in the sam/ directory to compile. I'm stuck on lib9, though, since it doesn't compile on Windows in its current form.

Re: [9fans] Sam on 9pm or plan9port

2008-07-22 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
could p9p possibly compile and run under Cygwin? Might be an easier port... MinGW might be preferable, as drawterm uses it, and again might be easier... Neither would work out of the box, though. An extra of indirection may not be the most efficient thing, but... My approach thus far has been

[9fans] Sam

2008-07-21 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
the 9pm version is still the latest Sam for Windows, right? Thanks! winmail.dat

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-16 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
i can't agree with this label research os if you mean to imply that it's not stable or somehow unfinished. Not at all. Just meant that one doesn't run their company's Oracle database on it. Not because it's not worthy of doing so, but such things just aren't compiled for it. ...you mean

[9fans] venti + Nt

2008-07-16 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Has anyone gotten Nt to read/write from Venti on a Plan 9 or Linux system? I figure one could set up something with SAMBA, but there's no native 9p for Nt, right?

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-15 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
coming as no suprise, the pc port of plan 9 does work just fine with 8 cores. Just out of interest, what's the machine? winmail.dat

Re: [9fans] 8 cores

2008-07-15 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
I'd like to ask a question, but before I do, feel I should say, I've been on this list long enough to understand that Plan 9 is a research vessel, not an OS that's targeted at commercial deployment... That being said, while huge scalability is certainly research-worthy, does anyone actually