Re: [abcusers] how well supported is the overlay operator

2004-11-12 Thread Richard Robinson
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 10:35:11AM +, Phil Taylor wrote: On 12 Nov 2004, at 02:16, Richard Robinson wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 11:23:59PM +, Phil Taylor wrote: On 11 Nov 2004, at 20:32, Atte André Jensen wrote: Hi I'm wondering how standard the overlay operator is? Which

Re: [abcusers] how well supported is the overlay operator

2004-11-12 Thread Richard Robinson
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:53:21PM +, Phil Taylor wrote: On 12 Nov 2004, at 14:07, Richard Robinson wrote: the character is carried straight through to the TeX output and the characters produce a \enotes\notes pair. Thus the input DEFG ABcd A4 e2 c2| produces [2 staves] To explain

Re: [abcusers] how well supported is the overlay operator

2004-11-11 Thread Richard Robinson
it at the moment. I intend to support it in BarFly in due course. abc2mtex did something with it, didn't it ? But I forget the details. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] abc2xml

2004-10-29 Thread Richard Robinson
, but don't have the impression it's being actively maintained. It's buggy, too. Strikes me as one of those little projects that would be more sensible under an open-source license ... -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe

Re: [abcusers] Is the list back again?

2004-10-27 Thread Richard Robinson
to be a nuisance. Much appreciated. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABCp output data structure

2004-09-11 Thread Richard Robinson
person who tries to use this won't be frustrated. Perhaps different folk-musics are simple in different ways ? (if at all). -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] spam

2004-08-29 Thread Richard Robinson
getting lots of spam (apparently) coming thru the abcusers list? I haven't heard any other complaints yet, but the score this morning when I opened my email was two genuine emails, one spam directly sent to me, and four with headers mentioning abcusers, like this: Yes. Same here. -- Richard

Re: [abcusers] ABC parser output data structure.

2004-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
format the output of a general purpose parser. It defeats the entire purpose of there *being* a parser in the first place. Of course, one of the things you could use a parser for, would be in an application that would generate, say, MusicXML, or other ascii, output ... -- Richard Robinson The whole

Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues ... One More Kick At The Can

2004-07-28 Thread Richard Robinson
, the performance rights people. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)

2004-07-23 Thread Richard Robinson
. impressed Are you ? Mind you, its the exact same mindset that ... Oi ! NO !! It was tedious enough, there. Please don't export it. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] reusable parser

2004-04-27 Thread Richard Robinson
tunes. Forbidding this may make life easier for simple parsers, but I don't think it's desirable for users. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] reusable parser

2004-04-27 Thread Richard Robinson
of producing whatever behaviour they want from their executables. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] reusable parser

2004-04-25 Thread Richard Robinson
with this ? And, lastly, I note that the abc-ps family are GPL'ed already. Do any of their people have comments about this ? I think Jeff suggested once that abcm2ps might be a suitable starting point ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem

Re: [abcusers] ANOUNCEMENT

2004-04-15 Thread Richard Robinson
with the never-ending battle to prevent spammers from squeezing messages onto the lists. That'll be nice. Thanks. Just at the moment, the only spam I'm receiving is via the abc list. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-04-01 Thread Richard Robinson
a toy language with next to no storage ? The only variable type is a scalar, and they can only be assiged to on creation; nor can functions return values. Odd. I think I must be missing some sort of mindset thing. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-04-01 Thread Richard Robinson
generate it, even ABC. But things are usually easier to read if they're written by hand - html is, for certain. MusicXML needs to be read along with the DTD. ?? Try looking inside one, it's not often hard to see what things mean. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-03-27 Thread Richard Robinson
the reverse case would be harder, preserving all xml information that ABC doesn't represent inside an ABC file for xml-abc-xml. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-03-26 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 11:14:45PM +0100, I. Oppenheim wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Richard Robinson wrote: I concur: musicxml is a wondeful development, which will finally make it feasible to exchange scores between different music processing software, without loosing too much information

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-03-26 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:24:58PM +, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Is anybody else here looking much at MusicXML ? I've been having a look over the last few days, and I must say, I'm rather impressed. It seems to me

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-03-26 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 04:31:56PM -0500, Steven Bennett wrote: Richard Robinson wrote: Is anybody else here looking much at MusicXML ? I've been having a look over the last few days, and I must say, I'm rather impressed. It seems to me that this could all be tremendously useful to us

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-03-26 Thread Richard Robinson
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 05:41:01PM +, Phil Taylor wrote: On 26 Mar 2004, at 16:23, Richard Robinson wrote: There's a small error in the example files on your webpage: the DOCTYPE tags refer to local file:// URLS, which won't work on other computers. That's be the file:/c:/Program

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-03-26 Thread Richard Robinson
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 09:48:11PM +, Richard Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 05:41:01PM +, Phil Taylor wrote: On 26 Mar 2004, at 16:23, Richard Robinson wrote: There's a small error in the example files on your webpage: the DOCTYPE tags refer to local file:// URLS

[abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-03-25 Thread Richard Robinson
of generating MusicXML ? There's a command-line Windows/Linux abc2xml (it's incomplete, it's buggy, it's closed-source and email to the author bounces, but apart from that it's great. It exists, for a start), what other ways are there to turn abc into xml ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon

Re: [abcusers] smaller notes among others

2004-03-15 Thread Richard Robinson
, there is %%scale. I've just tested this in abcm2ps, and it can be applied to a whole staff, but not to less than that. And then there's %%multicol ... -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

[abcusers] multicol alignment (margin units) in abcm2ps

2004-03-15 Thread Richard Robinson
to do this ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Converting accented characters

2004-02-10 Thread Richard Robinson
/tex-archive/support/charconv/ -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] abc2mtex newbie problems

2004-01-18 Thread Richard Robinson
at the end of ABC lines ? They caused justification when using the (older) musictex). So you may need to comment out the right blocks - musicnft seems be called from the musictex stuff. Good grief, it's a long time since I've looked at that. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps questions

2004-01-02 Thread Richard Robinson
local/personal paper size, it's their problem, not mine.) It's another argument for providing the source as well ... -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps questions

2003-12-19 Thread Richard Robinson
people print sheet music using standard 8 1/2 x 11 inch paper? (I do realize that many of us are not in the US, so this may be pure ignorance here as well). Certainly, A4 seems more-or-less standard in Britain. I have the impression it is for (at least a lot of) Europe. -- Richard Robinson

Re: [abcusers] Bar Lengths

2003-12-02 Thread Richard Robinson
or subtly diferent meaning. Or you could pick up Barry's proposal for I: , something like I:PH barstructure: ?? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Re: Tune identification

2003-10-13 Thread Richard Robinson
;-) I can't remember what song we (as residents at the Llandudno Folk Club) used to follow with the Rakes of Mallow Winster Gallop is its usual pairing here. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser

Re: [abcusers] Tune identification

2003-10-11 Thread Richard Robinson
/|D7.F.A.F.A .F.A d/c/B/A/|\ G.G.B.G.B .G.B d3/B/|Cc/B/A/G/ D7FA/c/ GB.GG2:| |:Ggf/e/ .d.c B.cd2|Ggf/e/ .d.c D7B.cA2|\ Ggf/e/ .d.c B.c d3/B/|Cc/B/A/G/ D7FA/c/ GB.GG2:| I have it as Rakes of Mallow. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem

Re: [abcusers] Clarification wanted on abc draft standard 2.0 (fwd)

2003-10-11 Thread Richard Robinson
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 02:17:14AM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 03:11:33PM +, John Chambers wrote: | | In general, it seems that rests should almost always be treated as | notes. The only way they're different is that a rest

Re: [abcusers] Clarification wanted on abc draft standard 2.0 (fwd)

2003-10-04 Thread Richard Robinson
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 03:11:33PM +, John Chambers wrote: In general, it seems that rests should almost always be treated as notes. The only way they're different is that a rest doesn't have a pitch. And is tricky to play staccato ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon

Re: [abcusers] suggested modifications to the ABC standard

2003-09-26 Thread Richard Robinson
:, CAPTION is indeed the 1st word of the title. If it was T:CAPTION, without the space, then that's the field an my snippet would be the value. No ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] suggested modifications to the ABC standard

2003-09-19 Thread Richard Robinson
be interesting to see a new abc2mtex, after all these years :) -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Uppity typesetting (was: gchordfont and alternate repeats)

2003-08-27 Thread Richard Robinson
of these ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-15 Thread Richard Robinson
easier for programs to parse, which is an invisible advantage for users, but might still exist. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 05:08:55PM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | | usual rant | I really _wish_ the layout/typesetting command could have been marked, | with, eg %%abc2ps newpage, in the same way as the original midi ones | were. It might have at least made issues

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Robinson
is extracted as part of the tune. I'm not sure this is desirable behaviour ? It runs into a much more general question, actually - if you re-order tunes in an ABc file, how do you handle any interposed non-ABC text, where should it go ? I don't think there's a clean answer to this. -- Richard

Re: [abcusers] gchordfont and alternate repeats

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Robinson
] necessary ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Robinson
, Letter ... ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Robinson
over to the typesetter. Like I said before, keep things separate. And I think lilypond-book is like that too ? I suppose the abc2ps equivalent would be to drop all the directives except the %%postscript pass-through. Which makes me feel much more kindly towards LaTeX. -- Richard Robinson The whole

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 02:29:19PM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | | X:1 | T:What ? | K:C | aaa aaa|] | %%newpage | | and the parser stops on the blank line, the %%newpage is extracted as part | of the tune. I'm not sure this is desirable behaviour ? Very good

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Robinson
structure of the original becomes meaningless. Like the example given - start a new page before the first of a bunch of reels and print a page-heading. If this has to be attached to a particular tune, what happens when you sort them in a different order and that one's no longer the first ? -- Richard

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 03:32:03PM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote: Richard Robinson wrote: It runs into a much more general question, actually - if you re-order tunes in an ABc file, how do you handle any interposed non-ABC text, where should it go ? I don't think there's a clean answer

Re: [abcusers] chords accidental semantics

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Robinson
). Deliberates ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] expandable information field

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Robinson
people to keep the volume down while someone's away. The traditional response, of course, is for everyone else to up their posting rate by a factor of largenumber. So, have fun, don't do anything I wouldn't do chorus: bwahahaa. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
not to, but just to throw %%papersize, %%loudness, %%staves, %%continueall, %%infoline, for example, all into the same space ? Is it clear and simple, for either humans or applications ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe

Re: [abcusers] ABC20-draft review

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
that, eg, Finale doesn't. Like the ability to _handle_ an explosion of content. I had getting on for a thousand tunes typed up in Finale, once, before I discovered ABC. It needed a separate database app to keep track of filenames and header info. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:42:15AM -0400, Laura Conrad wrote: Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Though, yes, the use of the existing %%midi namespace Richard would be a clue - helpful in general (since it gives a Richard rough idea of what sort

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: Current state of ABC online

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
that's a definition we could tie it to ? G:You are not expected to understand this Um, rephrased, of course. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABC standard changelog

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
just how difficult it really is. The main parsing problem is distinguishing the '(' it from the start of a slur. It would be nice to be able to do them, somehow. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:01:34AM -0400, Laura Conrad wrote: Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard If so, maybe what we're actually talking about is a Richard distinction between 2 parsing methods - unroll into a Richard stream and then re-parse, vs do

Re: [abcusers] ABC 2.0 Compatibility with ABC2MTEX

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
. can do instead. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Revising the ABC standard.

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
to update to software that conforms to it, if/when anybody changes the code to do so. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Higher notation anyone?

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
. I was appalled! ;-) laughter. I suppose the bug will have to be fixed, now it's been mentioned ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] 8.3. Accidental directives

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
, steal it (and claim it's part of your tradition). Though, of course, it doesn't matter whether the tunes are traditional or not, because really the tradition is not a matter of which tunes you steal - just so long as some get stolen. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural

Re: [abcusers] Re: 8.3. Accidental directives

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
to all the notes of the same pitch in the same octave up to the end of the bar. When set to pitch, accidentals also apply to all the notes of the same pitch in all octaves up to the end of the bar. The default value is pitch. but as Richard Robinson points our elsewhere - All

Re: [abcusers] Revising the ABC standard.

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:51:53PM -0400, Laura Conrad wrote: Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Increasingly, I begin to wonder if this should be seen as Richard a fork. I've been arguing the toss over a lot of these Richard new proposals

Re: [abcusers] musicXML

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 08:13:59PM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote: I. Oppenheim wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote: Has anybody seen any of the XMLish schemes do anything useful, yet ? I haven't had a look round recently, ibut whenever I have it's all looks kind of maybe one

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:03:03AM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | What about the cases where notes in different octaves | have different accidentals ? I don't see why notes in the key | signature couldn't take the full normal ABC value, with uppercase | and lowercase

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:22:12AM +0100, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Is K:D exp _b _e ^f different from K:D _b _e ^f ? Where does this come from, has it been mentioned before ? As I have always understood the standard

Re: [abcusers] Higher notation anyone?

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
believe this has already happened, to borrow from Douglas Adams. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Let's move on

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
can get it by saying, explicitly, K:Dmaj _b_e^f, which will get the c# -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Let's move on

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:36:17PM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote: K:D _b _e ^f actuall leaves also a c^. The point of the exp is to *override* the normal key sig of D. [1] The given example actually produces 1 sharp and 2 flats, ie

Re: [abcusers] Let's move on

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 10:16:37AM -0400, Wil Macaulay wrote: I agree with Richard wil Richard Robinson wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:19:44AM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote: If I could have a couple of meta-whatsits, for a moment ? All Wil's messages appear in my mailer as above

Re: [abcusers] ABC20-draft review

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
an Irish Roll is ... I think the long roll is currently deprecated, in favour of the baguette. Though this may be a regional usage. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] Added starter...

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
, Johnny Yak. aside I'll keep him talking, right, while youNO CARRIER -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Let's move on

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:42PM +0100, Phil Taylor wrote: Richard Robinson wrote: All Wil's messages appear in my mailer as above (though without the quote marks, you pedants) - very spaced out vertically. At least 2 0x0a newlines, sometimes more, sometimes interspersed with 0x20s. Do

Re: [abcusers] Let's move on

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 02:26:03PM -0400, Wil Macaulay wrote: hopefully this fixes the problem (text only, no html in netscape mailer) wil Looks good here. Thanks, you just became a lot easier to read. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S

Re: [abcusers] (no subject)

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 02:45:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Robinson wrote - The standard says It is also possible to specify a complex meter. Bwahaha. jcabc2ps will accept both 4i/4 and 4/4i without complaint, but only displays the 1st of these correctly. Interesting. I

Re: [abcusers] (no subject)

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:49:33PM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 02:45:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Technically, since neither of these has a real component, they are not | really complex but completely imaginary. | | *sigh*. So

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
notice none of them accept that A dotted bar line can be notated by preceding it with a dot, e.g. `.|') -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
of complication that makes me wonder if it's really the right way to go. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
. Thanks. But what does it mean? What would say an autoharp make of it, say perhaps to make it a tremolo. It means play any ornamentation here. The exact meaning is unspecified. I rather like ~ - play a squiggle. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
either) -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
of symbols which apply to a single note, then treat this as a note in an ordering of larger constructs ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
for K:tonic to find all tunes that sit on tonic. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 03:17:52PM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 01:15:54PM +0100, Bernard Hill wrote: | | And from the abc source you have written | | K:A_b^f^c | | shouldn't that have a G# also since you've written K:A

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 04:12:38PM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | The only solution would be to write this: |K:Ephr^G | | Or K:E=f=c^G=d ? Longer, but maybe clearer. Actually, I do include accidentals with this scale at times. The main reason

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 05:11:44PM +0100, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes And from the abc source you have written K:A_b^f^c shouldn't that have a G# also since you've written K:A? It definitely shouldn't have a G

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 05:20:26PM +, John Chambers wrote: Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | | Or K:E=f=c^G=d ? Longer, but maybe clearer. | | K:C ^g looks fine to me. Well, it looks fine, but it has the wrong

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
of how a group of musicians would be expected to read such notation. ROFL! (Also known as Hey, let's play it as a round! ;-) Another fine product for abc international. Reminds me, I still haven't got round to that random pipe-march generator. This is probably a Good Thing. -- Richard

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 06:26:21PM +0100, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson Now I don't really mind having minor keys as they are well established, and maybe even the modes Very tolerant of you ;) Well

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
no tonic, but a signature, which is _B. Maybe it's F or Dm. This last has the potential to be misunderstood, I think. The key signature would be K:Bb ? Easy to mis-type, or misunderstand. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
, or are considering using ABC, for music where non-standard signatures are less non-standard, they might make the same discovery. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:19:17PM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 05:32:51PM +, John Chambers wrote: | | K:_Bhas no tonic, but a signature, which is _B. Maybe it's F or Dm. | | This last has the potential to be misunderstood, I think

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 06:07:16PM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | | Of course, such searches are always prone to failure | because people just give the wrong key. It's common to see | K:G for tunes in E minor or A dorian. There's not a lot we | can do

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
to remember non-standard groupings of notes, but if people want to play music that uses them, why shouldn't it be possible to describe them ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
%? but nobody does. People who get the mode wrong are mostly not aware of their errors, and don't question their mode decisions as long as it gets the right key signature. True. But what about us pedants who aren't sure they've got it right ? grin -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
? Where does this come from, has it been mentioned before ? -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] expandable information field

2003-07-26 Thread Richard Robinson
. And then there's the multi-language-support issues. :-) -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Robinson
. And they seem to be headed in different directions - which is where we came in. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Installing abcm2ps on OS X

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Robinson
to, eg, edit .wav files via a cli. But _full-time_ GUI use, of course not. Stick with the best of both worlds. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Robinson
|] $ abc2mtex test.abc error in input file test.abc: line no. 4 - syntax error - note cannot follow justification -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] asterisks (and obelisks :-)

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Robinson
... I'd completely forgotten what it meant. Cor, it's ages since I played any hopsas. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Help - getting ABC files on BarFly

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Robinson
to be learnt. The only intuitive user interface is the nipple. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] About the choice of '!'

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 07:55:50AM +0200, Jean-Francois Moine wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:27:39 +0100, Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] AB cd ef | fe dc BA | ! !trill! AB cd ef | fe dc BA |] complains Decoration not terminated and loses the last 2 bars. This seems

Re: [abcusers] About the choice of '!'

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Robinson
., etc, in guitar chords, as the only alternative, and that's not good either, so I may well start using !decorations!. In which case the 2 different ! constructions will be mixed together in the same line wherever they have to be. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural

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