m too busy with summer, and being away
and doing other things, but I'm saving it all for when I have time to
think (if ever). There's all kinds of ideas I hadn't met before, that look
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and the millions of
other people who use MSN Explorer
'struth.
Me, I use pine and SMTP. Can't MSN Explorer users exchange mail with me ?
Goody, if that's the standard.
What's happened to moderation ? This has been nothing to do with the abc
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. ;-)
;-)
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So when does the Svenska Laatar Project begin? (How many volumes of
that were there?)
24 :)
You know the books have recently been re-published ?
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c.uk.music/Info/RRTuneBk
finished a few days ago. It's been in the works since August of last year.
And I'm not going to make it obsolete by typing up anything else for ...
ooh, days, I hope :)
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like:
[impressive list]
Two letters isn't going to do it, we need something extensible. Putting
keywords in N: fields is a stopgap you can use meanwhile.
Yes.
Or invent your own
%%private_keyword:
fields, is another way round it.
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haven't been using abc2mtex very intensively for a
while, but it seems to work ok - no really obvious breakages, anyway.
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On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Frank Nordberg wrote:
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...
There is something like that with my stuff,
http://www,leeds.ac.uk/music/Info/RRTuneBk/
A typo there, Richard:
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Info/RRTuneBk/
Oops. Ta :)
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things mostly do so because
they want that behaviour to use in their abc, no ?
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1"end/beam
/note
Have you ever looked at raw musixtex, as, eg, hint hint, output from
abc2mtex ? It's *far* nastier than that :)
ie, if xml gives access to worthwhile stuff, how about an abc2xml
converter ?
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aying some of theirs. If only in self-defence.
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, John Chambers wrote:
Richard Robinson [w]rites:
| On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Wendy Galovich wrote:
|
|Really?? What do the Dead Sea Scrolls sound like in abc?? :-)
| (Sorry John, I couldn't resist!)
|
| Quite right too - it's the best bit of bait I've seen in ages
ry string of 3 or
4 consonants is a word, so you can "read" most sequences of random
letters. Whether this is sensible is another question.
Every 3 or 4 consonants, huh ? Coud we drag the idea of dna sequencing s/w
in here too ?
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nyone
else, but it's nice not to be "non-standard", when I can.
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to dislike everyone else. I don't think I'd want
to work with you either.
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'%%' lines is to make sure
that I keep identifiers within a namespace that won't conflict with
anything else, unless-or-until there is an agreed standard usage. If there
was such, I'd gladly convert to it.
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you've contacted the copyright holder and obtained their
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of the Village Music Project's more complete version of the earliest
stuff, or is it a third thing (_was_ it. Damn. perhaps we'll never know)
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I'm intrigued. There are Winders with manuscripts in Wyresdale, just down
the way from Lancaster. Is this a copy of the one I typed up
(http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Info/RRTuneBk/Winder/Winder.abc)...
That's the one. I
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Johnny Adams wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Frank Nordberg wrote:
Richard Robinson wrote:
I'm intrigued. There are Winders with manuscripts in Wyresdale, just down
the way from Lancaster. Is this a copy of the one I typed up
(http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Info
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Frank Nordberg wrote:
I can't write a perl script to save my life, though.
Curious thought. save_franks_life.pl
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of it). Hornpipe isn't exactly a
unitary construct, though, there's a range of different weightings between
the notepairs in different sub-styles.
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,
the R: field conveys this information (in fact that's about the only
real use for that field).
Doesn't follow.
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the standard and appears to argue
for accepting it from abc2win.
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.
I hope this was not to mercyless, I still look foreward to every usefull
addition to the standards.
Hear hear.
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Modern GUIs are very well designed, for people with three hands. The
real problem has been how slow customers have been to make necessary
hardware upgrades to meet the requirements of the software.
Quite ;-)
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, of course, but if we can agree on something more generally
useful, that would be better.
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that I can use it to generate a URL that will stay the
same regardless of how I might re-organise the files, add in new tunes,
etc. Obviously, I'd like that to stay with the tune rather than getting
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addition unless the writers of the software in use
choose to incorporate it. Even then there's always the John Chambers
Case - people who read ABC directly and can't even be bothered to include
an X: line :- but we can't do anything about that :)
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, John Chambers wrote:
Richard Robinson writes:
| On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Laurie Griffiths wrote:
|
| %This is more subtle - Message 5 is encoded in the line breaks of the
| source.
| G | ABcd | e \
| fg
|
| I think I'll stop before the CIA try to extradite me
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Taral wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 08:56:15PM +0100, Richard Robinson wrote:
|F2A2BcF2c2bc|
Is this the same syntax that abc2mtex used to use ? And, is there much abc
out there that uses it ? I used to have a few, I _think_ I've migrated
them all to use
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Taral wrote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 01:30:30AM +0100, Richard Robinson wrote:
Which, doesn't your abc2ps produce dotted notes ?
Odd thing, though. My (a.b.c.d.) above ought, surely, to produce
staccato notes with a slur over them ? In fact, the first note doesn't
by anybody that cares to take part, linked into
your front-end code, might make your life easier too ?
I'm sorry, as a non-VB programmer I don't know how VB links to a C
library, but I imagine it must be possible by now.
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Consider the possibility that a separately-maintained ABC library,
open-source bug-fixed by anybody that cares to take part, linked into
your front-end code, might make your life easier too ?
I'm sorry, as a non-VB
of the same association of
standard and software project and used my now notorious outlaw
reference. She then said that she was simply making two separate points
in the same email and I (if you recall) apologised. I may have been a
little premature in doing so as, since then, Richard Robinson
actually contributing something constructive, I'll consider removing my
filter.
If anybody's left reading them, to notice it.
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to build a full read-write
interface to an abc collection via http (possibly via a perl::DBI module
or somesuch) but it would require any user to install a raft of software,
and is likely to be more trouble all round than it's worth.
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_lots_ of characters before the colon, so long as the first
2 are '%%'.
Well, only the first one, strictly, but 2 has become conventional for
things that at least one program expects to parse.
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the little scraps all gathered together, could save some time, and
might draw a few peoples' attention to ABC as well.
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) as a translation for chalumeau,
which is also said to have been a forerunner of the clarinet
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), but it may go
back further than that.
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of blowing up rest-of-the-world tunes is quite remarkable, and is wasting
whole days out of my life. Has anybody succeeded in writing a translator ?
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I want to do some fiddling about with the body of VMP
tunes, most of which come from abc2win. The number of ways this output has
of blowing up rest-of-the-world tunes is quite remarkable, and is wasting
whole days out
be necessary to have the use of a browser to access a mailing
list ?) is there anything to stop them going Oh, sorry, we did it again
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into a wave
Depending on your machine, of course; that would be for what, Windows ?
If you're on a linux box, timidity is what you need.
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, and would like to check (or improve
on) my hand-edited/perl-mangled versions.
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the parameters the program's working with so that
everything will fit on one page.
I've just played around with sizes in abc2ps's format file, and I get
PS output exceeds reserved space per staff -- increase BUFFSZ1. Which
means recompiling. Bleargh.
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, John Chambers wrote:
Richard Robinson wrote:
| On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, John Chambers wrote:
| if I could digress a little for a minute (without altogether dropping the
| topic of standards) ... your Tune Finder, if asked for midi :- is this
| equivalent to doing abc2midi
from my own Tunebook (Aird, Winder, a few other scraps).
First results are at
http://www.beulah.demon.co.uk/tunecomparisons.html
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? Circularity alert ... !
Also pdfTeX.
The usual free suspects, in fact.
I originally took up Linux because it seemed simpler than getting TeX
running on DOS.
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What has this got to do with ABC?
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The junkmailers have got hold of the address. There will be more of this
...
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I vote for only allowing subscribers to post here.
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? That can't be right.
But, it can be used to *notate* it, sure. Just, abc2midi won't playback
right unless that's what you happen to want. yaps, using the same parser,
will _display_ it fine.
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should be ready for the web before long).
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to hear a strathspey played like
a strathspey once in a while), but as a default, it's wrong.
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it uses -
and which made this possible, I really didn't want to write my own :)
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Yes. And since GIF is supported within a browser, it reduces the
supporting software that's needed.
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the
antialias setting, wondered what it was, flipped the setting, and
saw some very nice music notation suddenly appear on the screen.
I hadn't realised this until you just mentioned it.
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and asking around
convinced me that there were just too many browsers that wouldn't do it.
Newer versions might, but that doesn't mean older ones have disappeared.
When does the Unisys LZW patent run out, anyway ? It can't be long now,
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came in.)
I came in around 1.4 ... I rather think major/minor came first, and modes
were added on a bit after that. Not that it makes much difference.
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would
be for one of the authors to include a little file listing what their
conversion routine knows about ?
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Lists have been posted here, once or twice,
...
Don't be modest, Richard. *You* have posted a very useful list here at
the list a couple of times. I've taken the liberty to include it in the
abcyclopedia at:
http
chord he was
improvinsing harmonies apparently unfazed by playing in seven sharps).
I cheated ... it's an A clarinet. But, thanks anyway :)
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was working on the tunes-comparison program, I
was glad I had.
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an answer to the questions that I
have at the moment.
I've had a look at the sourceforge ABC pages a few times, but find it
really confusing to get around. I'm not sure I've even managed to ever get
to any of the software.
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could check
the notes of Dowland's Mistress Winters' Jump, which I've been learning
from a local melodeon player (!!). Intriguing title, good tune.
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notes on either side, unlike the flat symbol.
You get a similar situation with grace notes, so abc{g}d and abc{g}d
are equivalent to one another.
Except in which of them causes errors in which program.
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for abc2mtex.
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laugh even without a punchline.
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. :-)
Yes ... I have 3 brothers. All 4 of us are musicians of some sort, and 3
of us are involved to some extent in persuading computers to do what we want
them to.
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. EPS is
typically many times bigger.
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That's a big gig. I hope it turns out well for all concerned.
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Though, after 25 years of doing that it still slows me down when I'm
writing a tune down. Out-by-a-3rd errors everywhere (A clt).
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except the GUI-ness ?
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anything in there ... if you wanted to
search for it, as you might, it would be nice to have something more
specific.
I use %%Copyright:
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Incidentally, I've just realised that my messages to this list haven't
been making it through for the last few months, following major
reorganisations here. I _hope_ this is now fixed. We shall see ...
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On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 10:04:12AM -0700, Toby Rider wrote:
Wow this is the most active I've seen this list in months..
New blood, eh ?
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developers are willing to implement m: in their
programs, that't fine. Otherwise, abcpp will do the job for them.
Which is nice :)
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... you're going to want non-127 accented
characters. If you don't write lyrics you'll want them for a tune
title.
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be nice to have the option ...
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to the why write Free Software ? question -
Eric Raymond's Many eyeballs make any bugs shallow.
Which seems to lead to the conclusion that programs that need paying for
don't work as well, which is distinctly perverse and I'm sure it ain't
necessarily so ... runs away, fast
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, which plays a semitone higher
than this (ish ...)
A mix, D maj, B minor, E dor ...
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something like stylesheets these could recommend
a suitable one ...
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calculus and therefore might not have been a general-purpose
pronunciation.
I've heard pling used, but it's not usual (I know nothing about the
pi calculus, btw. Maybe this is relevant). Most commonly in the UK, I
think we'd call it an exclamation mark.
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as abc, to other peoples' machines ?
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, but are they, or are they ad-hoc-ery that just look the
same ?
I needed a 'c' with an inverted caret, a while back, and had a foul time
trying to find someting that worked, so this looks like something I
could get to like ...
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of a text line we might as well stick with a
text CR/LF linebreak. The only value to an explicit linebreak would be if
it could occur anywhere in a text line.
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' abc2win files and make them compatible
with bang-less applications.
What about :|: ? I think this is another abc2win-ism (?) which not all
programs seem to cope with.
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of stating them just as
accents instead, \v \ etc, and saying that they apply to whatever the
following character is. Rather easier for a user to get a grip on, I
think. Though the a-ring doesn't work like that in TeX ...
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| What about :|: ? I think this is another abc2win-ism (?) which not all
| programs seem to cope with.
...
You might be impressed by the variety of inventive bar lines that are
in use in abc
list)
Is there still another ABC list?
It's all right, the developer's list died a long time ago.
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On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 11:41:37AM +0100, Jack Campin wrote:
After meeting Richard Robinson at the Newcastleton festival the
weekend before last and playing a few tunes in the same sessions
(there can't have been many Scottish tune sessions featuring two
clarinets before)
No, there have been
as a Banjo Hitter... So, thanks to you, maybe I'll
rename the instrument Hammer Banjo.
Phil
PS What made you guess at dulcimer?
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And, while I think of it ... Phil
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