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2006-12-09 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on No sir, though, you have not proven your point at all, but i still think personal comments should be avoided, If i like, i can start to think

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2006-12-09 Thread Ketan Kothari
VERMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on where is the original topic? should we roll back to that topic, or it is awated for a week or two

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2006-12-09 Thread P. Subramani
, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on At least my friends have realized that this topic is a deviation from the central focus of this group. I hope in future they would find a legitimate forum to raise such issues. As far as my friend who suggested

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2006-12-09 Thread Ram
, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on No sir, though, you have not proven your point at all, but i still think personal comments should be avoided, If i like, i can start to think that earth is flat and nobody will object it as long as i don't argue

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2006-12-09 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
Dear Mr. Ram, I respect your feelings! - Original Message - From: Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:46 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Dear Dr. Vipin, I am

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2006-12-08 Thread B.V.
there cannot be any trouble in it. BV - Original Message - From: Hari Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi friends

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2006-12-08 Thread P. Subramani
: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Illicit people are mostly violent! If I raised some lawful issue I don't know why you people united yourself so

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2006-12-08 Thread Taraprakash
- From: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on At least my friends have realized that this topic is a deviation from the central focus of this group. I hope

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2006-12-08 Thread Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Dear sir. Talking about sex and sexual harassment are two different things. If the mail I am responding to was written by a college lecturer, I

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2006-12-08 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
- From: Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on That's indeed very true. But my another concern is that those poor students who have to listen

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2006-12-08 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
Message - From: Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on That's indeed very true. But my another concern is that those poor students who have to listen

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2006-12-08 Thread Chetan Sharma
- From: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on I have proved my point beyond doubt. These personal remarks in no way going to either hurt me nor I would like

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2006-12-07 Thread P. Subramani
: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on I am putting the things in clear words again! Emphasis added it is not a question of discussing matters pertaining to sexual harassment or some thing else and their relevance for VCs. Question

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2006-12-07 Thread P. Subramani
: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Thanks for clarity but the motive is not yet clear. I do respect your respect for the law of the list. I however, regret your insensitivity towards the socially relevant issues concerning blind men and women and also that of the conventions

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2006-12-07 Thread Harish Kotian
discussing on this thread ceases. Harish. - Original Message - From: P. Subramani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on What is wrong in discussing issues of sexual

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2006-12-07 Thread Hari Raghavan
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chetan Sharma Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:29 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi list, I am not able to understand, why this group can not or should

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2006-12-07 Thread P. Subramani
06, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on For the kind information of those insisting that this group is only for 'technology-related-discussion', BPO's in Bangalore today spend a lot of their time overseeing protection of their women employees, because one

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2006-12-07 Thread Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam
Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi friends, Frankly I have always felt that topics not central to our charter attract the maximum

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2006-12-07 Thread Taraprakash
with in the conventions of the list. Regards - Original Message - From: Hari Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi friends

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2006-12-07 Thread Subramani L
. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rajesh Parakh Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:52 PM To: Chetan Sharma; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on We must realize that we are first

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2006-12-07 Thread Subramani L
. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 1:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on I don't

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2006-12-07 Thread Subramani L
] On Behalf Of P. Subramani Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:44 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on that particular rape by a cab driver is a different issue as you and others know the reasons as to why such a thing happened, pre-requisites

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2006-12-07 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
, December 07, 2006 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on What is wrong in discussing issues of sexual harassment particularly those raised Smirthi Singh? Although our group is for discussing accessibility, once a while there could be a deviation. This topic does really

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2006-12-07 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on I simply gave it as an example of how even those so technologically orientated among us can't afford to ignore personal safety issues and simply call danger

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2006-12-07 Thread K Ramkrishna
7:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Illicit people are mostly violent! If I raised some lawful issue I don't know why you people united yourself so tightly. Let us read the objectives of this group again and again and remind yourself. What we should discuss

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2006-12-06 Thread Subramani L
@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on For heaven's sake! Dream romance and sexual harassment! It shows what is the value of discussion on issues of academic and social interest for you. I wish you apologise, or may be explain how is the said issue fit

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2006-12-06 Thread Subramani L
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taraprakash Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:32 PM To: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Thanks for clarity but the motive is not yet clear. I do respect your respect for the law

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2006-12-06 Thread B.V.
I also accept the suggestion.BV. - Original Message - From: Sanjay Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi listers, Instead of creating a separate group why

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2006-12-05 Thread rajesh asudani
: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on I am putting the things in clear words again! Emphasis added it is not a question of discussing matters pertaining

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2006-12-05 Thread Divyanshu Ganatra
06, 2006 3:14 AM To: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Well, I sincerely doubt the validity of absolute legal metaphor about the scope of this group! To take the psychological perspective, may I call the emphasis

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2006-12-05 Thread Taraprakash
- From: Neeraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on yes that is write, we can discus these type of issues on different groupe also, like sayeverything, and dreamromance

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2006-12-05 Thread Taraprakash
beg to ask you for that sacrifice when it concerns such an important issue. - Original Message - From: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on I am

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2006-12-05 Thread Dattu Agarwal Agarwal
become a home? Rajesh - Original Message - From: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra To: Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on I am putting the things in clear words again! Emphasis added it is not a question of discussing matters

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2006-12-05 Thread Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam
Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on I am putting the things in clear words again! Emphasis added it is not a question of discussing matters pertaining to sexual harassment or some thing else and their relevance for VCs. Question is since we have disowned several members

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2006-12-05 Thread rakesh kumar gupta
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi list, I am not able to understand, why this group can not or should not discuss the sexual harassment of Blind women. If an extended discussion on stray dogs is relevant, if we can

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2006-12-05 Thread Dattu Agarwal Agarwal
To: Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on I am putting the things in clear words again! Emphasis added it is not a question of discussing matters pertaining to sexual harassment or some thing else and their relevance for VCs. Question

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2006-12-05 Thread K Ramkrishna
- From: Taraprakash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on For heaven's sake! Dream romance and sexual harassment! It shows what is the value of discussion on issues of academic

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2006-12-05 Thread Chetan Sharma
sake! apply some rational before making such comments. Regards, Chetan Sharma - Original Message - From: K Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Dear

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2006-12-04 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
Dear Members, I think this group is purpose specific. However, WE have reduced it in to a forum for general discussion. When we started the group there was a specific purpose behind it. There are so many things which could be discussed about the problems of VCs. I think we should have group

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2006-12-04 Thread Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam
, December 04, 2006 9:15 AM Subject: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Dear Members, I think this group is purpose specific. However, WE have reduced it in to a forum for general discussion. When we started the group there was a specific purpose behind it. There are so many

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2006-12-04 Thread rakesh kumar gupta
] - Original Message - From: Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi everyone, I certainly understand the concerns

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2006-12-04 Thread Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam
Definitely - Original Message - From: rakesh kumar gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hello to all, Yes Vetri! I agree with you. Being a member

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2006-12-04 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
. Thanks, Rakesh. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group

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2006-12-04 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
for starting a separate group on Definitely - Original Message - From: rakesh kumar gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hello to all, Yes Vetri! I

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2006-12-04 Thread Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam
@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Patience for what my dear friends! Everyone knows what is the basic purpose of this group. I did not say that there should be voting on the issue! Realism should not be set aside

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2006-12-04 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
Message - From: Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi Rakesh, I think that we have made our points very clear and there is no reason to bother about

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2006-12-04 Thread Subramani L
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:41 AM To: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi everyone, I certainly understand the concerns of the member who finds lack

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2006-12-04 Thread Neeraj
- From: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Noone can appreciate that in PC or technology related group, issues related to rape or sexual harassment

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2006-12-04 Thread Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam
men on women's issues. - Original Message - From: Chetan Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on Hi list, I am not able to understand, why this group can

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2006-12-04 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
I am putting the things in clear words again! Emphasis added it is not a question of discussing matters pertaining to sexual harassment or some thing else and their relevance for VCs. Question is since we have disowned several members from this list already. Why to just pick and choose. It is a