Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-12-01 Thread Andrew Haninger
res. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *James Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 1, 2020 11:47 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters > > > > At our last house we switched from LP to natural gas the year before we &

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-12-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
1, 2020 11:47 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters At our last house we switched from LP to natural gas the year before we moved. Our water heater was just under 20 years old and I was considering trying to convert it (apparently not an option for most

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2020-12-01 Thread Bill Prince
> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF > Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 10:14 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> > Cc: Chuck McCown &l

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-12-01 Thread Andrew Haninger
I suspect the glass is more like a baked on enamel or ceramic coating. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 10:14 AM >> > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> > Cc: C

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-12-01 Thread James Howard
1, 2020 10:14 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Cc: Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters > > > > Water heaters are steel with a heavy galvanized coating. So I presume the > anode keeps

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2020-12-01 Thread Steve Jones
d shape. > > > > > > > > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince > > Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 9:03 AM > > To: af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters > > > > > > > > Boats, outbo

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-12-01 Thread Andrew Haninger
om: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF > Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 10:14 AM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Cc: Chuck McCown > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters > > > > Water heaters are steel with a heavy galvanized coating. So I presume the > an

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-12-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters Water heaters are steel with a heavy galvanized coating. So I presume the anode keeps the inside galvanizing in good shape. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-12-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Water heaters are steel with a heavy galvanized coating. So I presume the anode keeps the inside galvanizing in good shape. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 9:03 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

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2020-12-01 Thread Bill Prince
Boats, outboard motors, water heaters. Most (all?) are made from zinc. On outboards we called them the sacrificial plate. bp On 12/1/2020 6:43 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Boat anodes are zinc.  They form a self galvanizing

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2020-12-01 Thread James Howard
Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters Boat anodes are zinc. They form a self galvanizing electrolytic cell that heal any bare steel scratches in the hull coating. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 1, 2020, at 3:39 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li

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2020-12-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Boat anodes are zinc. They form a self galvanizing electrolytic cell that heal any bare steel scratches in the hull coating. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 1, 2020, at 3:39 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > >  > There's usually a bolt looking thing on the top which is actually

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-12-01 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
There's usually a bolt looking thing on the top which is actually the end of the anode. The real purpose of the anode is to attract all the corrosive crap and corrode so your tank doesn't. Once it is fully corroded, you can either replace it, or the alternative is that your tank gets to corrode

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-11-30 Thread Erich Kaiser
both electric and gas, it may not be in the hot output it could be a separate pop off tab on top thats covered with foam, do some googling for your make/model and where your anode is located. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Mon, Nov 30,

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2020-11-30 Thread Steve Jones
I dont think Ive ever seen an anode on a water heater, inlet, outlet, popoff, burner, thermocouple, drain. Is that a new thing? I havent put in a new water heater in a long time, or is that for electric? On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:32 AM Erich Kaiser wrote: > If you are going to put a tank one

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2020-11-30 Thread Erich Kaiser
If you are going to put a tank one in again make sure to replace the Anode rod with a DC powered one. If you check your existing heater does the rod even exist or has it corroded away (It is supposed to protect the tank from corrosion)? We had two 40 gal heaters replaced about 8 months ago,

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2020-11-30 Thread Robert
Of *Chuck McCown via AF *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 9:46 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters No, the salt is used to make a brine that washe

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2020-11-30 Thread Lewis Bergman
huck McCown via AF > *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 9:46 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters > > > > No, the salt is used to make a brine that washes the hard water deposits > off the resin beads.

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2020-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-do-water-softeners-wo/ From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 9:46 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters No, the salt is used to make a brine

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2020-11-30 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
me people might want it to wash the car. > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 8:35 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters > > I'll have to look at the brand I have. I have had tankless for a

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2020-11-30 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
starts something else. You can hear the heater >>> instantly rev up when more flow is detected. Takagi were crap. Rhinni >>> have lasted much longer. Not sure I spelled those correctly. >>> >>> From: Nate Burke >>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 10:4

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2020-11-30 Thread Bill Prince
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters   I'll have to look at the brand I have. I have had tankless for about 25 years now in 2 different houses. First, the electric ones suck and I wouldn't have one. The gas ones of either type

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2020-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
with soft water, although some people might want it to wash the car. From: AF On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 8:35 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters I'll have to look at the brand I have. I have had tankless for about

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2020-11-30 Thread Lewis Bergman
ater >> instantly rev up when more flow is detected. Takagi were crap. Rhinni >> have lasted much longer. Not sure I spelled those correctly. >> >> *From:* Nate Burke >> *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2020 10:43 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group &g

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2020-11-29 Thread Colin Stanners
> instantly rev up when more flow is detected. Takagi were crap. Rhinni > have lasted much longer. Not sure I spelled those correctly. > > *From:* Nate Burke > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2020 10:43 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Water

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2020-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
heaters What is that?!?! Oh, it's just Chuck taking a shower. bp On 11/29/2020 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: So, no gas but no nuclear... From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 9:08 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters We have a gas tank

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2020-11-29 Thread Bill Prince
...    From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 9:08 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters   We have a gas tank water heater

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2020-11-29 Thread Nate Burke
:* Nate Burke *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2020 10:43 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters I have a tankless for 10 years now and love it. I would replace a tank heater with a tankless any time. We have semi-hard water. City water, combination of river

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters I have a tankless for 10 years now and love it. I would replace a tank heater with a tankless any time. We have semi-hard water. City water, combination of river/well. Wife would like a watersoftener, I think it's fine. For our 2 person

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
So, no gas but no nuclear... From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 9:08 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters We have a gas tank water heater on the south/original part of the house, and a tankless for the north/addition. Neither is ideal because of the long

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2020-11-29 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 8:41 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters On 11/28/20 10:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Tankless is looking almost comparable in price for gas, so I'm curious if any of you guys run them without major water softener

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2020-11-29 Thread Nate Burke
I have a tankless for 10 years now and love it. I would replace a tank heater with a tankless any time. We have semi-hard water. City water, combination of river/well. Wife would like a watersoftener, I think it's fine. For our 2 person household, it's been perfect. Once you are in the

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2020-11-29 Thread Colin Stanners
FYI, quick pricing example for the above 2x Eccotemp 45HI-NG ( I can't find the -NG on Amazon easily but just for reference here's the very similar but not compatible -LP version https://www.amazon.com/Eccotemp-45HI-LP-Indoor-Propane-Tankless/dp/B00K2XLJIW/ ) $530 USD each 2x Descaling/service

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2020-11-29 Thread Colin Stanners
Steve, no feces involvement here but I've been looking into water heaters quite a bit for a project. For the hard water, instead or in addition to the water softener you may want to look into putting one of these into your hot water path. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000NKETXQ/ I wouldn't put it in

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2020-11-29 Thread Bill Prince
We have a gas tank water heater on the south/original part of the house, and a tankless for the north/addition. Neither is ideal because of the long pipe runs to some of the usage places. Everything is spread out to maximize the distance from the water heater(s)

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-11-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/28/20 10:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Tankless is looking almost comparable in price for gas, so I'm curious if any of you guys run them without major water softener and filters. You'll need to de-scale a tankless with hard water or the heat exchanger will become clogged. You'd put in

Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
water will be a problem though. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 12:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Water heaters You guys all do different weird shit. Went to drain my gas heater tonite (may have put that maintenance off

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2020-11-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
In my last house with limited electricity, I ended up with a power vent Gas. Loved it. Easy to install, with PVC pipe for vent. The new place has an electric hot water heater, when it fails I might replace it with one of the new heat pump hot water heaters, although I'll need to do a bit more

[AFMUG] Water heaters

2020-11-28 Thread Steve Jones
You guys all do different weird shit. Went to drain my gas heater tonite (may have put that maintenance off longer than intended) We are quarry country so we have super hard water. Needless to say tanks full of baked in sediment and when I cleared the valve I may have cracked the liner, about