Old Vyatta on a Dell R710 with Intel GE NICs has
been rock solid (OSPF and full BGP tables) up to
~ 4Gb/s or 300kpps. Vyos does pretty well too.
$ show version
Version: VSE6.1-2010.08.20
Description: Vyatta Subscription Edition 6.1 2010.08.20
Copyright:2006-2010 Vyatta, Inc.
Built
I think Im just going to try my luck at a 2u pentium II bare metal with
some nice old nic cards and run native linux os for routing LOL :)
This should be fun
On 1/18/21 11:11 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
e7-2
e7 is the platform, the -2 is how many cards it holds. It's a 1U box.
There's also the e
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ave it configured so
> networks are more stable.
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Where have you seen it be not stable?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
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>
>
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ars or 10 years will I be happy I went with Juniper over MT?
> Will be unhappy I went with MT vs Juniper?
> That is the decision I am trying to make.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:20 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* R
x27;m running big iron instead of Mikrotik.
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From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Cc: "Chuck M
trying to make.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
While I haven't seen that myself, it sure sounds like you're comparing the
hardware reliability of a $50 hex versus a $10,000 Junipe
hers WISP
From: "Cassidy B. Larson" < c...@infowest.com >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com >
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:59:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
It’s like playing Jenga. It’s stable until you start
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> *From: *"Cassidy B. Larson"
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:59:40 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> It’s like playing Jenga. It’s stable until y
gt;
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Cassidy B. Larson"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:59:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> It’s like playing Je
19, 2021 12:59:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
It’s like playing Jenga. It’s stable until you start making changes. You keep
running the risk of it toppling over after every change, or it could continue
to be stable until the next change :)
On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:56, Chuck
Less stable than others perhaps.
>
> From: Ryan Ray
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:20 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:48 AM Mike
Not a binary thing. Less stable than others perhaps.
From: Ryan Ray
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:48 AM Mike Hammett wrote:
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vironments.
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From: "Ryan Ray"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:44:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router progr
;>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
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- Original Message -
From: "Josh Luthman"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 10:21:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
My only comment about that uptime...does tha
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lt;https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
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> *From: *"Ryan Ray"
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nuary 18, 2021 4:21:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
Dont reboot it. It might not come back up. We’ve had that on occasion with
Mikrotik.
I’ve lost more Mikrotik on reboot than any other device.. ever.
On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wr
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> Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, Janua
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] r
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> From: "Mark Radabaugh"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:45:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> Wimpy.
>
>
>
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Radabaugh"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:45:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
Wimpy.
Of course it locked up today :-)
Mark
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January 18, 2021 3:19:36 PM
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[AFMUG] router programming
Anything that doesn't stay
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> From: "Ryan Ray" mailto:ryan...@gmail.com>>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021
ry 18, 2021 3:19:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
Anything that doesn't stay up pretty much constantly without needing reboots or
services reset I would consider not stable.
Our OSPF and BGP on Mikrotik has not been flawless, but it has been flawless on
our juniper mx204 edge
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:20:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
Even used Juniper gear will lead to far less sleepless
nights than MT, a lot easier to find experts too. And
they’re jus
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> ----------
> *From: *"Ryan Ray"
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> *Sent: *Monday, January 18, 2021 3:03:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> Ca
- Original Message -
From: "Ryan Ray"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:03:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
Cause it's not a stable platform.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics
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> ------
> *From: *"Dev"
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> *Sent: *Monday, January 18, 2021 2:20:23 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> Even used Juniper gear will lead to far less sl
2:20:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
Even used Juniper gear will lead to far less sleepless nights than MT, a lot
easier to find experts too. And they’re just…less Mikrotiky. People are
surprised when Mikrotik works, people are surprised when Juniper doesn’t,
that’s the differe
Even used Juniper gear will lead to far less sleepless nights than MT, a lot
easier to find experts too. And they’re just…less Mikrotiky. People are
surprised when Mikrotik works, people are surprised when Juniper doesn’t,
that’s the difference.
> On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Chuck McCown via A
e7-2
e7 is the platform, the -2 is how many cards it holds. It's a 1U box.
There's also the e7-20 which is a big like 8u or something.
e7 holds cards.
The cards are AE ports (like 12 or 16?) or GPON4/GPON8 which hold 4/8 GPON
plugs (look like SFP but I don't think they're technically SFP). They
I use it for my FTTH delivery system. GPON.
From: Josh Baird
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 9:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
As someone who is Calix-stupid, can you tell me the E7-2 is doing for you?
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh
As someone who is Calix-stupid, can you tell me the E7-2 is doing for you?
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Luthman
wrote:
> I'm 12 months into running a Calix e7-2 with Mikrotik with no problems.
> Using Powercode to manage it.
>
> DHCP and NAT are something so damn simple I can't imagine w
> NAT are something so damn simple I can't imagine why you'd do Juniper for
> those. Be way cheaper to run a Pi.
You are a braver man than I.
Jared
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On 1/18/21 8:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'm 12 months into running a Calix e7-2 with Mikrotik with no
problems. Using Powercode to manage it.
DHCP and NAT are something so damn simple I can't imagine why you'd do
Juniper for those. Be way cheaper to run a Pi.
Chuck I'd comfortably say
I'm 12 months into running a Calix e7-2 with Mikrotik with no problems.
Using Powercode to manage it.
DHCP and NAT are something so damn simple I can't imagine why you'd do
Juniper for those. Be way cheaper to run a Pi.
Chuck I'd comfortably say you'll be fine with rb4011 or CCR passing traffic
With that list of specs I would be comfortable using a Tik CCR. If you want
to start doing multiple upstream with full tables BGP I would go to
Juniper. We just finally switched our edge routing to Juniper and it really
should have been a couple years ago.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 5:52 PM Chuck McCow
Last I heard, Table Of Contents.
Probably means something different here.
bp
On 1/15/2021 9:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Tnx. Phone translated that to TOC. What is TOC?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
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If i had it to do over again with my incompetence and lack of motivation, i
probably would have learned something more robust than mt. I learned what
little i know around mt because i was too lazy to do the legwork in talking
the boss into dropping coin and mt was too user friendly with "everything
Tnx. Phone translated that to TOC. What is TOC?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:10 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
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TOC
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 15, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Lincs Chel (AFMug) wrote:
>
>
> Hi Chuck;
>
> Sure. I know of someone. You can reach out to him. Really good. ecbethel
> at yahoo.com. He can set you on the right path to a very simple, reliable
> and cost effective solution. In
El Paso Water Utilities is migrating from Crisco Oil routers to
Juniper...you will fine
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 3:52 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP. DIA on fiber.
> Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.
>
> Router(s) fe
Hi Chuck;
Sure. I know of someone. You can reach out to him. Really good.
ecbethel at yahoo.com. He can set you on the right path to a very
simple, reliable and cost effective solution. In NC right now.
Lincs
On 15/01/2021 5:51 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
It is looking like I may b
rom: TJ Trout
>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:31 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>>
>> traffic levels?
>>
>> RB4011 x 2 with the 3rd party HA script will give you active-backup
>> redundancy w
T. Watch dog timer issues etc
> discussed here make me not want to go that direction.
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2021 4:31 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] router programming
>
> traffic levels?
>
> RB4011 x 2
1-2 Gig to start with. I am gun shy about MT. Watch dog timer issues etc
discussed here make me not want to go that direction.
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
traffic levels?
RB4011 x 2
I am lazy.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming
"Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me."
Sounds like Mike Anderson's network when I too
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>> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF"
>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
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> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
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> --
> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF"
>
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- Original Message -
From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: "Chuck McCown"
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:51:21 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] router programming
It is looking like I may be starting yea
It is looking like I may be starting yea another new ISP. DIA on fiber.
Upstream provider announcing my IPs and doing BGP for me.
Router(s) feeding Calix E7-20
DHCP
DNS
What else do I need?
Router based NAT or server based NAT?
Server based router?
Like to keep it simple but fully redundant.
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