Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions

2020-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 8:24 PM wrote: > >> A bit of choke can mean that it is starved for fuel. The choke makes it >> a richer mixture. >> >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2020 5:36 PM

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2020-09-22 Thread Robert
Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:07 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions So a likely problem is the fuel is old/stabil isn't working or the generator really doesn't like corn? Would premium fuel help or just skip straight to 0

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2020-09-22 Thread Bill Prince
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions   So a likely problem is the fuel is old/stabil isn't

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2020-09-22 Thread Adam Moffett
Josh's new generator: https://youtu.be/bvyeA7xHABo?t=48 On 9/22/2020 10:55 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Nitromethane. *From:* Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:07 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions So a likely

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2020-09-22 Thread chuck
Drag chute too. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:23 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions You'd better give that genny a hot rod paint job and put some huge exhaust stacks on it. Your UPS might still not work, but you'll feel like

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2020-09-22 Thread Adam Moffett
Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions So a likely problem is the fuel is old/stabil isn't working or the generator really doesn't like corn? Would premium fuel help or just skip straight to 0% ethanol? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937

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2020-09-22 Thread Robert
h Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:07 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions So a likely problem is the fuel is old/stabil isn't working or the generator really doesn't like corn? Would premium fuel hel

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2020-09-22 Thread Bill Prince
alFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions   Well it starts no problem, it just

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2020-09-22 Thread Jason Wilson
>> a richer mixture. >> >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2020 5:36 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions >> >> Well it starts no problem, it just doe

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2020-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions > > So a likely problem is the fuel is old/stabil isn't working or the > generator really doesn't like corn? > > Would premium fuel help or just skip straight to 0% ethanol? > > Josh Luthman >

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2020-09-22 Thread chuck
Nitromethane. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:07 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions So a likely problem is the fuel is old/stabil isn't working or the generator really doesn't like corn? Would premium fuel help

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2020-09-22 Thread Josh Luthman
:24 PM wrote: > A bit of choke can mean that it is starved for fuel. The choke makes it a > richer mixture. > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2020 5:36 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply ques

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2020-09-21 Thread chuck
A bit of choke can mean that it is starved for fuel. The choke makes it a richer mixture. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions Well it starts no problem, it just doesn't like

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2020-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Well it starts no problem, it just doesn't like running the UPS without a bit of choke =/ Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:15 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > I heart Sta-BIL... Ski boat, untouched for

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2020-09-21 Thread Robert Andrews
... -Original Message- From: Larry Smith Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions I have learned to almost love Sta-BIL 360 Marine fuel stabilizer. Use it in our golf cart, boat, motorcycles, lawn mowers, anything

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2020-09-21 Thread Robert Andrews
I heart Sta-BIL... Ski boat, untouched for 5 years. Full tank, Sta-BIL in a little extra proportion. Connected new battery, Jumped in, turned key, started. That doesn't happen with untreated gas... On 09/21/2020 12:36 PM, Larry Smith wrote: I have learned to almost love Sta-BIL 360 Marine

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2020-09-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
, September 21, 2020 3:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions back when gas wasn't cut with corn and it didn't go bad anyway =) all of the stabilization products worked great On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:39 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com

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2020-09-21 Thread Bill Prince
tember 21, 2020 10:13 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply

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2020-09-21 Thread Larry Smith
irplanes. Prist or something like that. > >> Supposedly the best. But that was back in the 1970s... > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Larry Smith > >> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:36 PM > >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users

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2020-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
This particular generator is probably 2 years old. The other ones are probably closer to 12 years old and have 0 problems =/ Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:31 PM Bill Prince wrote: > How long

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2020-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
te: >> >>> Sounds like you have a carburetor issue. Maybe some plugged up metering >>> jets due to varnish. >>> >>> *From:* Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2020 10:13 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>&g

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2020-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
; From: Larry Smith >> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:36 PM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions >> >> I have learned to almost love Sta-BIL 360 Marine fuel stabilizer. >> Use it in our golf car

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2020-09-21 Thread TJ Trout
1970s... > > -Original Message- > From: Larry Smith > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:36 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions > > I have learned to almost love Sta-BIL 360 Marine fuel stabilizer. > Use it in our g

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2020-09-21 Thread Larry Smith
I have learned to almost love Sta-BIL 360 Marine fuel stabilizer. Use it in our golf cart, boat, motorcycles, lawn mowers, anything that can (and likely) does sit for any period of time with ethanol fuel in it. It seems to actually work. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon September 21

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2020-09-21 Thread Bill Prince
How long have you had the generator? The first thing to have problems on a gas generator is usually the carburetor (and/or the fuel system). The only thing we've had to service on our gas generators is carbs, filters, and oil changes. bp On 9/21/2020

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2020-09-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeahengine maintenance on a generator is skipped more often than not.  Go ahead and pay extra for the synthetic oil because you have to admit to yourself that you're not going to remember to change it.  Also after the outage just let it run until the tank is empty because realistically you

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2020-09-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 12:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions So you're thinking the 110v is probably its output and not relevant? Carb issue could be causing it to bog down like that and it gets resolved

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2020-09-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Our emergency generator now is a 20KW diesel.  The UPS's like that one just fine. I've wondered sometimes if it's not about how many Watts it could make, but about the number of cylinders.  If you have a 2 cylinder engine then it seems like all the power for one side of the stator would end

Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions

2020-09-21 Thread Jason Wilson
Some UPS don't care for an unregulated AC. Either run your current generator through a line conditioner or go with inverter generators. The latter would be my choice and is what I use. Way back in the day I had cisco t1 routers that would not run on a 6kw portable generator. I had to use my truck

Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions

2020-09-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Ken's answer of "use an inverter generator" is probably the simplest thing.  You'll have way fewer problems than with any other portable generator.  Also "dramatically oversize the generator" would be a good solution too. Half the windings on the generator give you a 110v phase.  The other

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2020-09-21 Thread Mark Radabaugh
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:22 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> > wrote: > Sounds like you have a carburetor issue. Maybe some plugged up metering jets > due to varnish. > > From: Josh Luthman <> > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:13 AM > To: AnimalFarm Micr

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2020-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
a carburetor issue. Maybe some plugged up metering >> jets due to varnish. >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2020 10:13 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions >> >> No

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2020-09-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
or propane. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:04 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions Before the UPS units were plugged in, it ran just fine. Once they were plugged in it sounded like it was struggling

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2020-09-21 Thread TJ Trout
; *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions > > None of our generators or any one I've seen let's you adjust voltage. The > ones we have are all TroyBilt-ish with Briggs engines. > > The UPS did switch to the generator when I low

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2020-09-21 Thread chuck
Sounds like you have a carburetor issue. Maybe some plugged up metering jets due to varnish. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:13 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions None of our generators or any one I've seen

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2020-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
y, September 21, 2020 9:40 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions > > Not sure what the generator is but most have the ability to adjust the > output voltage and frequency. If you have the option you could just > crank

Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions

2020-09-21 Thread chuck
But engine speed will affect voltage. At least on older units. -Original Message- From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 9:40 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator power supply questions Not sure what the generator is but most have

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2020-09-21 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Not sure what the generator is but most have the ability to adjust the output voltage and frequency. If you have the option you could just crank the generator output voltage up enough to make the UPS happy. Note that is done by adjusting the excitation voltage, not the speed of the engine.

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2020-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
I set mine to low when I install them due to that same post I've seen over the years. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 11:00 AM Larry Smith wrote: > We had to set the sensitivity (sp?) setting on all

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2020-09-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Before the UPS units were plugged in, it ran just fine. Once they were plugged in it sounded like it was struggling/running out of gas - this was resolved by closing the choke a little bit. Do you think that's a frequency problem? 110vac at the UPS. I didn't measure what was coming out of the

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2020-09-21 Thread Larry Smith
We had to set the sensitivity (sp?) setting on all our APC UPS to medium (drop from default of HIGH) or they would not accept the generator current (would stay on battery). -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon September 21 2020 09:43, Ken Hohhof wrote: > 110v at the generator or the other

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2020-09-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
110v at the generator or the other end of the 175 feet of 10 AWG wire? And total load is 5-6 amps each including the UPS charging the batteries? What kind of UPS? Something like an APC will have a relatively low charging current, other setups may be quite a bit higher. I know our Alpha

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2020-09-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I would guess your frequency was high and that may have bothered the ups. Dropping it lowered the freq and the voltage both. 110 volts is ok. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >  > So Friday we have another 3 phase go down in the building. They

Re: [AFMUG] Generator for office

2020-02-10 Thread Sterling Jacobson
: Re: [AFMUG] Generator for office These are 12Kw and look to be smaller than the Generac? https://www.nationwidegenerators.com/briggs-stratton-40517-12kw-generator/ https://www.nationwidegenerators.com/kohler-12resv-120-240v-1ph-generator-with-oncue-generator-management-system/ From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Generator for office

2020-02-10 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/10/20 15:58, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Still, need a small form factor due to the building owner being obtuse about having a Gen on the back sidewalk. Ask if you can put it inside. Mine (Cummins diesel) are inside. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

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2020-02-10 Thread chuck
Going from a 7.5 to a 15 kW is not physically that much larger. How about in the tree strip behind your building? Or sacrifice a parking space. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 5:13 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator for office

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2020-02-10 Thread SmarterBroadband
...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 3:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator for office Good points. Still, need a small form factor due to the building owner being obtuse about having a Gen on the back sidewalk. So

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2020-02-10 Thread Sterling Jacobson
They said no for roof installation. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 5:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator for office Roof? From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users

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2020-02-10 Thread chuck
Roof? From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator for office Good points. Still, need a small form factor due to the building owner being obtuse about having a Gen on the back sidewalk. So I’ll

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2020-02-10 Thread Sterling Jacobson
: [AFMUG] Generator for office If your HVAC is 240 then you have more HVAC load than that generator can pull on just that one load. 40 amps x 240 Volts is 9600 Watts. 7.5 kW generac will only deliver 31 amps at 240 VAC And you really don’t want to load a generator up that much. 50% is a good

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2020-02-10 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm asking out of curiosity. My house is gas heat, so it's on a 15 amp breaker (for the control board/thermostat). My parents are on a mini split and pellet stove. Haven't seen a 40A hvac in a ~1300 sqft space. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

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2020-02-10 Thread Adam Moffett
It's likely that there isn't 40A load on the 40A breaker.  The A/C installer would have sized it high if they had any brains. However, the full picture here is that a bigger generator might cost a few thousand more, but buying it too small means buying it twice. If you cut it too close you

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2020-02-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Is that 40A HVAC an electric heater or something? That's massive. I have a 30A two ton mini split that only pulls about 9 amps (110) at full throttle heat. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 9:04 AM wrote: >

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2020-02-09 Thread chuck
If your HVAC is 240 then you have more HVAC load than that generator can pull on just that one load. 40 amps x 240 Volts is 9600 Watts. 7.5 kW generac will only deliver 31 amps at 240 VAC And you really don’t want to load a generator up that much. 50% is a good derating factor. Also,

Re: [AFMUG] Generator advice..

2020-01-31 Thread Josh Baird
Same as the one that I posted about? The 7043? On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:09 AM can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > We are using the same generator and it is working just fine for our > office. It handles our servers, heat and A/C without issues. > > On Fri, Jan 31,

Re: [AFMUG] Generator advice..

2020-01-31 Thread Adam Moffett
I should have thought of that. On 1/31/2020 10:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That is why I remote the battery inside to a heated area and put a better charger on it than comes with the generator. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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2020-01-31 Thread Nate Burke
. There are tri fuel generator carburetors that will take gasoline, natural gas and propane. To me that is the ultimate in redundant backups. *From:* Nate Burke *Sent:* Friday, January 31, 2020 8:14 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generator advice.. What brand Diesel

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2020-01-31 Thread chuck
, January 31, 2020 8:14 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator advice.. What brand Diesel generator are you using? Are they permanent or portable? On 1/31/2020 2:51 AM, Mike Meluskey wrote: In the islands we get lots of power outages. Our go-to generator

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2020-01-31 Thread Mike Meluskey
We were buying Hardy Diesel, with Perkins engines. Permanent. Two at our main hub tower. On 31 Jan 2020, at 11:14, Nate Burke wrote: What brand Diesel generator are you using? Are they permanent or portable? On 1/31/2020 2:51 AM, Mike Meluskey wrote: In the islands we get lots of power

Re: [AFMUG] Generator advice..

2020-01-31 Thread Nate Burke
What brand Diesel generator are you using? Are they permanent or portable? On 1/31/2020 2:51 AM, Mike Meluskey wrote: In the islands we get lots of power outages. Our go-to generator for a site like you described is a 12.5kw diesel generator. Diesel is much easier to re-fuel after a

Re: [AFMUG] Generator advice..

2020-01-31 Thread can...@believewireless.net
We are using the same generator and it is working just fine for our office. It handles our servers, heat and A/C without issues. On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:52 AM Mike Meluskey wrote: > In the islands we get lots of power outages. > Our go-to generator for a site like you described is a 12.5kw

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2020-01-31 Thread Mike Meluskey
In the islands we get lots of power outages. Our go-to generator for a site like you described is a 12.5kw diesel generator. Diesel is much easier to re-fuel after a disaster (ie. Cat5 Hurricane). I became an expert at re-fueling, oil changes, priming, clogged fuel filters, etc. after

Re: [AFMUG] Generator advice..

2020-01-30 Thread Nate Burke
We've seen that too, running an (industrial) 120v garage door opener, pulled one leg out of phase/voltage enough with the starting current that the control board shutdown the generator (15kw diesel). It ran a 5ton 240v AC unit cycling on and off just fine. On 1/30/2020 4:49 PM, Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] Generator advice..

2020-01-30 Thread Adam Moffett
Using 240V AC may help with that. We had trouble where the generator had way more load on one hot leg than the other.  It ran rough and stalled often. On 1/30/2020 5:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The only reason you might have trouble is the air conditioning starting load.  I have seen them

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2020-01-30 Thread Chuck McCown
The only reason you might have trouble is the air conditioning starting load. I have seen them cause a generator to stall and die before. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > >  > We're shopping for a generator for one of our larger POP's. The electrical

Re: [AFMUG] Generator advice.

2020-01-30 Thread Ryan McAfee
I have this 22kw on LP (no wifi), 3 years old, running the whole house. So far I love it. It's also running my tower a few hundred feet from the house. No issues with the servers I run on it. My mini-split is fine with it as is my big whole-house heat-pump (never tried it with the heat strips on,

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-11 Thread Sean Heskett
> af...@zirkel.us> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Date: *Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 11:19 AM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions > > > > called the guy, he said ~$20k but considerin

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-11 Thread Gino A. Villarini
$20k for a single 250W unit? From: AF on behalf of Sean Heskett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 11:19 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions called the guy, he said ~$20k but considering that we

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-11 Thread chuck
, 2019 9:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions yes thank you for bringing up the carbon monoxide risks. that's why i'm looking for a generator that's deigned to be installed inside. when i call generac they say no, can't be done unless you order

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2019-09-11 Thread Sean Heskett
;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> > www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > *From: *AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof < > af...@kwisp.com> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Date: *Monday, September 9, 2

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-11 Thread Sean Heskett
yes thank you for bringing up the carbon monoxide risks. that's why i'm looking for a generator that's deigned to be installed inside. when i call generac they say no, can't be done unless you order the generator that can literally power a small city. we are working with an architect to design

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-10 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:09 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions I seem to remember there was discussion here about

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-10 Thread chuck
In snow country I have mounted outdoor rated generators on an 8’ tall pedestal. From: Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions Every indoor generator I've ever seen has been in a separate

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-10 Thread Daniel White
get stranded on mountaintops.  I have had carbon monoxide poisoning twice and did not notice it coming on. Obviously I was lucky both times. I guess a good CO detector would be a must. *From:* Robert *Sent:* Monday, September 09, 2019 6:51 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] gener

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/9/19 6:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: That’s horrible.  We always had the generators in a separate room.  One end of the shelter was walled off just for the generator. But good point, sometimes you get stranded on mountaintops.  I have had carbon monoxide poisoning twice and did not notice it

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown
times. I guess a good CO detector would be a must. From: Robert Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 6:51 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions Please don't put it in an area that any personnel are likely to take shelter in. We lost two good radio techs out

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-09 Thread Robert
Please don't put it in an area that any personnel are likely to take shelter in.   We lost two good radio techs out this way last year due to that.  Was supposed to be safe for them.  Killed them before they could drink 1/2 cup of coffee... On 9/9/19 4:58 PM, Daniel White wrote: The Long

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-09 Thread chuck
Last time I looked in to them they are not suitable for super cold sites. They make copious amounts of water which tends to freeze them up. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 6:08 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions I seem

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions The Long Lines sites I've visited in Colorado at that altitude had diesel generators but they were also not off-grid. I know the comm site at Almagre Mountain was a huge remediation issue with the diesel tanks there. Check out

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I haven't had a chance to use one of these in production, but several customers I've talked to at packetflux have reported using a RV generator with good success. You'll need to arrange for sufficient ventilation through louvers, etc.. The exhaust can be through an extended tailpipe. -forrest

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-09 Thread Daniel White
The Long Lines sites I've visited in Colorado at that altitude had diesel generators but they were also not off-grid.  I know the comm site at Almagre Mountain was a huge remediation issue with the diesel tanks there. Check out the Cummins Onan 5.5HGJAE-2144.  Since it is designed for RV

Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions

2019-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Most of the larger sites with very large gensets, including all of Verizon's and AT"s LATA switching sites have generators indoors. It sounds like you better put the exhaust and intake pretty high on the building. I think most with transfer switches, exercise and such are 7kw to 10kw. I would

Re: [AFMUG] Generator

2019-08-13 Thread Lewis Bergman
That was definitely the case On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 12:58 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Maybe the private power generator was better quality than the public > government run service? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Generator

2019-08-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Maybe the private power generator was better quality than the public government run service? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 11:15 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > The typical standard is a generator should be

Re: [AFMUG] Generator

2019-08-13 Thread Lewis Bergman
The typical standard is a generator should be able to produce twice the amperage of the load you expect. Maybe thats because genset guys like selling bigger generators but all the docs I have seen from UPS manufacturers state the same thing. They all produce cleaner power at the mid range of what

Re: [AFMUG] Generator

2019-08-13 Thread Chuck McCown
It will run cooler too. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I might be a weirdo, but I figure a 50amp subpanel is 12kva, so I got a 16kva > generator for the 50 amp sub-panel fed by a 50 amp breaker from the main > panel. > > The reason for the

Re: [AFMUG] Generator

2019-08-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I might be a weirdo, but I figure a 50amp subpanel is 12kva, so I got a 16kva generator for the 50 amp sub-panel fed by a 50 amp breaker from the main panel. The reason for the generator being bigger than the sub-panel is that you can't put 12kva on the 12kva generator unless you perfectly

Re: [AFMUG] Generator

2019-08-12 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe IT)
Thanks for the responses. So looks like just a basic avr generator will be fine as long as it’s sized correctly Thanks again Rhys Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Aug 2019, at 11:36 pm, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I would get the one larger than you need with an automatic transfer switch. > I

Re: [AFMUG] Generator

2019-08-12 Thread Josh Luthman
This is what I do, 5-6kva generator per 2200va UPS. There are two generators and two UPS in my case. I'm not worried about cooling since there's not enough output (the size is mostly for large battery capacity). It's in the bottom middle of the building, the heat just rises right out. Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Generator

2019-08-12 Thread Chuck McCown
I would get the one larger than you need with an automatic transfer switch. I have had ok luck with geneac units. You want it large enough to be able to start the hvac system, Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe IT) > wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Generator

2019-08-12 Thread can...@believewireless.net
You don't need an inverter generator but you may need to adjust the sensitivity in the UPS. Our Tripplites work fine but APC needs to be adjusted. On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 11:51 PM Rhys Cuff (Latrobe IT) < r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote: > Hi Guys > > > > I’m after a small 5kva generator for the