Re: [AFMUG] FS - PMP450 / AF5X

2019-02-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
yes they 10x modulation with better RX sensitivity and lower power consumption On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:50 PM Jon Langeler wrote: > AF5XHD are that much better? Are you sure you don't want to free up that > 5Ghz with 11G > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > > On Feb 15, 2019,

Re: [AFMUG] FS - PMP450 / AF5X

2019-02-15 Thread Jon Langeler
AF5XHD are that much better? Are you sure you don't want to free up that 5Ghz with 11G Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Feb 15, 2019, at 11:32 PM, Kurt Fankhauser > wrote: > > AF5XHD -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] FS - PMP450 / AF5X

2019-02-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Actually I have about 80 of the AF5X's, had a typo in the listing. On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:32 PM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > PMP450i 5ghz and AF5XHD > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:28 PM Jon Langeler > wrote: > >> I'm curious, what are you replacing all of this with? >> >> Jon Langeler >>

Re: [AFMUG] FS - PMP450 / AF5X

2019-02-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
PMP450i 5ghz and AF5XHD On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:28 PM Jon Langeler wrote: > I'm curious, what are you replacing all of this with? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > > On Feb 15, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Kurt Fankhauser > wrote: > > I have the following for sale: > > Qtyx12 -

Re: [AFMUG] FS - PMP450 / AF5X

2019-02-15 Thread Jon Langeler
I'm curious, what are you replacing all of this with? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Feb 15, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Kurt Fankhauser > wrote: > > I have the following for sale: > > Qtyx12 - 3692SM10 PMP450 3.65ghz SM's NOS $200/each OBO > Qtyx18 - 3692SM10 PMP450 3.65ghz SM's USED

[AFMUG] FS - PMP450 / AF5X

2019-02-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have the following for sale: Qtyx12 - 3692SM10 PMP450 3.65ghz SM's NOS $200/each OBO Qtyx18 - 3692SM10 PMP450 3.65ghz SM's USED $150/each OBO Qtyx40 - AF5X 5ghz radios USED, comes with all accessories $250/each (6 on the ground, more coming down in next few months) Contact k...@wavelinc.com

Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I am squinting at what he wrote, at first I thought it said “Vaseline is what I use on my poo!” But maybe it says “pool” not “poo!” I need better glasses to read Calibri 11 point. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Is that what you call it? From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings? Vaseline is what i use on my pool On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince wrote: Yeah. That was probably my brain

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Are NN licenses still selling despite CBRS coming?

2019-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Good info, Matt. One thing to consider, the various SAS vendors may offer services that make them attractive to certain WISPs. Like coordinating between adjacent WISPs, or making it easier to bond channels, or taking into consideration APs that are synced and can be on the same frequency,

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Are NN licenses still selling despite CBRS coming?

2019-02-15 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
Regarding the original question… I am not sure what they’re worth, but depending on the FCC response to the petition to extend part 90 operations beyond April 17, 2020, and what they rule regarding license expiration dates, that value could go up a bit. The whole CBRS subject is quite complex

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread chuck
As long as I cannot see the wall when viewed from the South. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois Ken, if you want pixie dust, we can sell you pixie dust, or even a wall taller

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Steve Jones
where are they targeting in IL? On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:31 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > They're a customer of mine in Indianapolis. > > They've been offering to buy WISPs in areas they won CAF funds. I think > they'll be partnering with neighboring WISPs where they can't buy them. > > > > -

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Bill Prince
Ken, if you want pixie dust, we can sell you pixie dust, or even a wall taller than Mt. Everest. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 1:27 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > There seems to be a disconnect, if supposedly the feds are going to be > very strict about making sure speed

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dni7qzxz3530g0o/AAB12nH5NaalbVInxzeLBgaEa?dl=0 I did three states last fall. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Mark Radabaugh
It’s a government program - they get paid to fail.You get paid per household in the block regardless of your managing to sell service or not. So you can price it at the absolute maximum the feds will allow and hope that nobody takes it. Of course you are screwed if the guy in the

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
If there are any farmers with grain legs still paying for Internet, a new entrant is their chance to get it free. Also towns with a WISP on their water tower who think the more the merrier. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 3:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Mike Hammett
The last time I counted, my network touched 23 other fixed wireless\microwave ISPs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
There seems to be a disconnect, if supposedly the feds are going to be very strict about making sure speed and latency requirements are met on networks funded with CAF II money. If I were very naïve and believed stuff like that, then I would believe “no customer left behind” and the CAF II

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
So is this good, bad, or meh? Honestly, I didn’t realize Frontier was eligible for CAF money by me, much less that they passed it up. I mean, it’s not like we don’t already compete with 2-3 other WISPs throughout our service area. But if they start offering/claiming 100 Mbps speeds for

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Tim Reichhart
Watchtv also have bright net under BRT North also which is benton ridge telephone co. Tim   -Original Message- From: "Joe Novak" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Date: 02/15/19 02:40 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois Watchcomm must be the subsidy of

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I guess they have 6 years to find “vertical assets”. Or someone said they might be buying or partnering with existing WISPs to accomplish that? Bidding on that much territory, I guess you can’t go and verify there are any towers available, you just have to cross your fingers. From:

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Benton Ridge is Watch. AMG is Nextlink. Look at the folder on the left side of Google Earth. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Joe Novak
Watchcomm must be the subsidy of Benton Ridge Telephone Co, if you google Benton they do have links to watchcomm. On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 1:36 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > OK, different colors, have to click on a tract to see the bidder. I see a > lot of AMG Technology Investment Group LLC, no

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, different colors, have to click on a tract to see the bidder. I see a lot of AMG Technology Investment Group LLC, no idea who that is. And I see Benton Ridge Telephone Co. in our area. I can’t find Watchcomm though in your Illinois file. Are they under an alternative name? From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Oh wait, never mind, Benton Ridge is based in Lima OH, that’s them. https://www.telecompetitor.com/biggest-telco-caf-ii-winner-will-use-the-52-million-for-fixed-wireless/ From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 1:35 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Their southern edge is our northern edge. We sort of intertwine a little bit. I know when they were starting fixed wireless they had some sort of licensed product on a massive (1500+) tower. Someone said they lost that license. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Mike Hammett
All of those areas have been awarded to the entity mentioned. Note there are multiple layers, one for each company that won funds in a given state. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2019-02-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Both? Still working on it. At the costs some of these guys want, I'll likely just be hiring dirt work. I got a quote of $3/ft just to draw lines on a map when I knew someone building the whole thing for $7. Uh, no thanks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Tim Reichhart
I used to work for there tech support years ago and I complete with them and every weekend there network will go down and from what my customers tell me when they had them they still had same issues when I worked for them for tech support about 9 years ago. Tim   -Original

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Mike Hammett
They're a customer of mine in Indianapolis. They've been offering to buy WISPs in areas they won CAF funds. I think they'll be partnering with neighboring WISPs where they can't buy them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Big provider based near Lima, Ohio. Backed by a small LEC. Has a decent presence in Ohio and large presence in Indiana. They took a significant amount of CAF money. Mark > On Feb 15, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > Has anyone run into these guys? https://watchcomm.net We've

[AFMUG] Watchcomm expansion in Illinois

2019-02-15 Thread Nate Burke
Has anyone run into these guys? https://watchcomm.net We've heard a rumor that they're going to be moving into Illinois backed by CAF money. Their website isn't giving us any reason for pause, their "Legacy network" highest plan is only 25mb/s. Looks like they're doing TV just with DISH

Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2019-02-15 Thread Steve Jones
Mike, What did you have quoted? just dirt work or project end to end? On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:33 PM Tim Cailloux wrote: > You're not obligated by GAAP to treat book value of an asset as commercial > value (i.e. "mark to market"), so it's appropriate to treat fiber as a > long-lived