Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
What Steve Jones said... On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 3:03 PM Steve Jones wrote: > you can do ethernet between the buildings and fiber media converters on > them with a short patch, this isolates the coper. then power the remote > side media converter with an isolation transformer and youve isolated

Re: [AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

2021-08-25 Thread Steve Jones
My brother is in one in AZ. Bunch of cuckold men striving to have power because their wife karen immasculates them at home. My brother loves intimidating the main guy that's always harassing home by just walking at him the whole time they interact. On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:04 PM Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

2021-08-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
My friend purchased a home last year in an HOA neighborhoodregrets it..lots of Karens On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I view this more to tell HOAs where to stuff it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 25, 2021, at 3:30 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > > That's not

Re: [AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

2021-08-25 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
The way I read it you have to feed the customers home with one of the antennas in order to re-distribute with other antennas on the same roof. I assume this means that technically I couldn’t order up a fiber circuit to the home to use to feed other APs on the roof… unless the customer is also

Re: [AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

2021-08-25 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Yeah, more for governing entities like HOAs etc that try to regulate what the home owner can/wants to do with their own roof/property or access to broadband for their owned unit. You couldn’t just pick any random roof and install any random equipment on it under OTARD. The property owner still

Re: [AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

2021-08-25 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I view this more to tell HOAs where to stuff it. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2021, at 3:30 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > That's not the way I read it. It prevents state & local governments from > imposing restrictions, but leaves the decision making up to the people who > are

Re: [AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

2021-08-25 Thread Bill Prince
That's not the way I read it. It prevents state & local governments from imposing restrictions, but leaves the decision making up to the people who are owners/operators. bp On 8/25/2021 2:24 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Am I reading

Re: [AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

2021-08-25 Thread Steve Jones
Am I reading this shit right? Property owners can be forced to be transmit locations? On Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 4:07 PM Jacob Turner wrote: > Yes: > https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/02/25/2021-01304/fcc-modernizes-siting-rule-for-small-hub-and-relay-wireless-antennas > > -- >

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting a Jleg to a pipe

2021-08-25 Thread Steve Jones
those look like what we use On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 4:14 PM Nate Burke wrote: > I just picked up a set of these to see if they fit. > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NCBTFSW > > The problem we run into is the Force300 radio can't have the bracket > reversed, so when we mount to a steel building,

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting a Jleg to a pipe

2021-08-25 Thread Nate Burke
I just picked up a set of these to see if they fit. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NCBTFSW The problem we run into is the Force300 radio can't have the bracket reversed, so when we mount to a steel building, we have to run a vertical pipe between 2 horizontal girts, but then you sometimes can't

Re: [AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

2021-08-25 Thread Jacob Turner
Yes: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/02/25/2021-01304/fcc-modernizes-siting-rule-for-small-hub-and-relay-wireless-antennas -- Jacob Turner On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:12 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > There was a proposed modification to the FCC "blessings" for permitting >

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Steve Jones
you can do ethernet between the buildings and fiber media converters on them with a short patch, this isolates the coper. then power the remote side media converter with an isolation transformer and youve isolated the copper. On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 2:05 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Could

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting a Jleg to a pipe

2021-08-25 Thread Steve Jones
the gold ones fit most, dont remember the p/n but primus anf perfect vision carry them. all depends on your j arm foot On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 9:57 AM wrote: > If you're going to do the U-bolts, get those jagged V-clamps and put them > between the J-pipe and the tower. Might be there's an old

[AFMUG] FCC and residential antennas (OTARD)

2021-08-25 Thread Robert Andrews
There was a proposed modification to the FCC "blessings" for permitting multiple antennas on residential buildings under OTARD. Did that ever go anywhere? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Could still be on the same transformer. Power Line Carrier system might could work. At least if 10-100 Mbps is OK. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Bill Prince
Should not be. Ethernet is ethernet. With just the ethernet connection between the two switches, there would still be no ground connection. bp On 8/25/2021 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: It's going to be connected to a switch on both ends. Will that be a problem? Bill Prince wrote: Ethernet

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Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Powerbox Pro on the outside of the first house. Cat5 ether1 into first house with a power supply. Plug in customer router there. Then run fiber from Powerbox Pro to second house. I do a /32 IP for each customer so I can shut them off individually, all done in the Tik. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread castarritt
Our policy is that the most bulletproof solution is to sell a second service to the other house. On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:39 PM Jay Weekley wrote: > The first location is a house with internet and the second location > needs it. It's not the only way to get the second location on line. > I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Jay Weekley
The first location is a house with internet and the second location needs it. It's not the only way to get the second location on line. I'm just looking for the most bullet proof solution that will minimize support calls. Josh Luthman wrote: That's kind of a basic networking question,

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Josh Luthman
That's kind of a basic networking question, what's the overall topology look like? Does this second building already have internet and you're back feeding? Is this fiber connection between the two buildings the only way the second building gets online? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Adam Moffett
We put a surge protector on both ends when we did this.  Each one grounded to the ground rod on it's respective building. Before we did that we'd blow switch ports with every lightning storm.  After we did that no more blown ports.  Maybe Bill's way works too, but one SS or two SS is not that

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Jay Weekley
It's going to be connected to a switch on both ends. Will that be a problem? Bill Prince wrote: Ethernet has no ground reference. It's a differential signal. If you're using shielded cable, only ground one end (or neither end), and you'll be fine. bp On 8/25/2021 8:53 AM, Jay Weekley

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Bill Prince
Ethernet has no ground reference. It's a differential signal. If you're using shielded cable, only ground one end (or neither end), and you'll be fine. bp On 8/25/2021 8:53 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: I've got a client that needs a network line installed from their house to another building but

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Andy Trimmell
https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-accessories/products/ufiber-ac tiveethernet It merely turns the fiber into Ethernet. No need to know anything about fiber if they have someone come terminate it. No configuration required. -Original Message- From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Jay Weekley
It's an option but I'm trying to minimize my involvement in the support department. The do have an IT guy but I'm not sure how familiar he is with fiber. Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Jay, I would do a fiber run between the buildings. These are nice on both ends

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Jay, I would do a fiber run between the buildings. These are nice on both ends https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Switching-Capacity-Protection-TEG-S51SFP/dp/B019IHWSF0/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1=Teg-s51sfp=1629908139=8-2 Get some a couple of transceivers and terminated fiber. -- Best regards, Mark

Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Zach Underwood
Fiber or copper ethernet plug run a 6awg ground cable between breaker panels. On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:54 AM Jay Weekley wrote: > I've got a client that needs a network line installed from their house > to another building but they are on separate power meters. I understand > that running a

[AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

2021-08-25 Thread Jay Weekley
I've got a client that needs a network line installed from their house to another building but they are on separate power meters. I understand that running a cable between two different ground points is not advisable. Is there a way around this? A wireless link isn't an option at this

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2021-08-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Why wouldn't you trust the Marketing Executive? Such an official sounding title. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 5:22 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Tempting, but I think I will pass. > > Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting a Jleg to a pipe

2021-08-25 Thread dmmoffett
If you're going to do the U-bolts, get those jagged V-clamps and put them between the J-pipe and the tower. Might be there's an old or broken antenna somewhere you can steal them from. -Original Message- From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 10:28 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting a Jleg to a pipe

2021-08-25 Thread dmmoffett
When I did that, I just got a U-Bolt sized for the diameter of the tower leg and drilled matching holes in the footplate of the J pipe. But U-bolts don't hold that well IMO. We had a dish clamped like that which spun around in a windshear. It was still tight when the guy got up there to re-align

[AFMUG] Mounting a Jleg to a pipe

2021-08-25 Thread Nate Burke
I know they exist, but my Googlefu is failing me. There's a set of UBolts that are spaced correctly to fit in to the LAG holes on a Jleg so that you can clamp the foot of a JLeg to a pipe. The Cambium part number is SGLN6552A, but they are big UBolts for the outside LAG Holes. Does anyone