Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Yes it was ePTP. Keep in mind the TDD will add a few ms of latency as long as you flexible ratio. Doing 75/25 obviously would be another difference. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:58 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > What was it before? ePTP? > > On 12/10/2018 9:30 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > > Wanted to follow up on this one as well. Changing to TDD PTP appears to > have done the trick its been up for 5 days now with no issues. > > Thanks for all the idea’s everyone. > > > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz > *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 7:26 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > Steve, > > I don’t think I said. Sorry about that. Its 2.4 on 20mhz channel. > > > > Upgrading to 3.5.2 did not work. However, changed it to TDD PTP and its > going on 20 hours stable so far. > > > > As with most things time will tell. > > > > Thanks everyone. > > > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 5:17 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > I may mave missed it, but what freq/channel are you on at what size? > > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman > wrote: > > My eptp link was 2.4.3 with the issue for sure > > > > I had a ptmp AP (flexible) 2.5.1 that had an issue where no one could > associate until I rebooted > > > > I would think in 2.6.x it was resolved. I haven't seen any issues myself > since 2.6.x. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > > Josh, > > Was the bug in 2.6.1.x? I will certainly upgrade but just wondering how > long this has been around. > > > > Thanks everyone. > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2018 9:11 AM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > There was a bug that caused it to hang way back in the day (when the Force > 200 and eptp came out). They patched my link and it quit dying entirely, > but I think it was some quick reset. > > There's a known bug in 3.5.1 that's semi-resolved in 3.5.2 relating to > this, but it is not 100% fixed from what I'm told. Upgrade to 3.5.2 and > when there's a new release you'll want to upgrade when you can. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM Mathew Howard > wrote: > > I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember what we did to fix > it... I think we may have had to replace the radio. I can't remember if it > was a PTP or PTMP situation, either... it was a while ago. > > > > It might be worth switching it to TDD PTP mode instead, and see if that > helps. > > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:14 PM Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > > Yes de-registering the link does make the link start passing traffic again > although it seems a lot shorter lived so far. Only lasted an hour. > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > I don’t know. I will report back after trying it. > > Thanks for the idea. > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > Does it start working again if you just de-register the link, instead of > rebooting the radio(s)? > > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > > Dave, > > I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in > tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these > odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am > trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
What was it before? ePTP?
On 12/10/2018 9:30 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
Wanted to follow up on this one as well. Changing to TDD PTP appears
to have done the trick its been up for 5 days now with no issues.
Thanks for all the idea’s everyone.
Brandon
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
*Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 7:26 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Steve,
I don’t think I said. Sorry about that. Its 2.4 on 20mhz channel.
Upgrading to 3.5.2 did not work. However, changed it to TDD PTP and
its going on 20 hours stable so far.
As with most things time will tell.
Thanks everyone.
Brandon
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 5:17 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
I may mave missed it, but what freq/channel are you on at what size?
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
My eptp link was 2.4.3 with the issue for sure
I had a ptmp AP (flexible) 2.5.1 that had an issue where no one
could associate until I rebooted
I would think in 2.6.x it was resolved. I haven't seen any issues
myself since 2.6.x.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM Brandon Yuchasz
mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>> wrote:
Josh,
Was the bug in 2.6.1.x? I will certainly upgrade but just
wondering how long this has been around.
Thanks everyone.
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2018 9:11 AM
*To:* AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
There was a bug that caused it to hang way back in the day
(when the Force 200 and eptp came out). They patched my link
and it quit dying entirely, but I think it was some quick reset.
There's a known bug in 3.5.1 that's semi-resolved in 3.5.2
relating to this, but it is not 100% fixed from what I'm
told. Upgrade to 3.5.2 and when there's a new release you'll
want to upgrade when you can.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM Mathew Howard
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember what we
did to fix it... I think we may have had to replace the
radio. I can't remember if it was a PTP or PTMP situation,
either... it was a while ago.
It might be worth switching it to TDD PTP mode instead,
and see if that helps.
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:14 PM Brandon Yuchasz
mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>>
wrote:
Yes de-registering the link does make the link start
passing traffic again although it seems a lot shorter
lived so far. Only lasted an hour.
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of
*Brandon Yuchasz
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
I don’t know. I will report back after trying it.
Thanks for the idea.
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of
*Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM
*To:* AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Does it start working again if you just de-register
the link, instead of rebooting the radio(s)?
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz
mailto:li...@gogebicrange.net>> wrote:
Dave,
I have not seems like such a strange issue I
didn’t have much faith in tech support. My
experience is the list seems to have better info
on these odd issues. One side of this link
requires snow shoes to get to so I am trying to
avoid replacement if at all possible.
Thanks,
Brandon
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Steve, I don’t think I said. Sorry about that. Its 2.4 on 20mhz channel. Upgrading to 3.5.2 did not work. However, changed it to TDD PTP and its going on 20 hours stable so far. As with most things time will tell. Thanks everyone. Brandon From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 5:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. I may mave missed it, but what freq/channel are you on at what size? On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman wrote: My eptp link was 2.4.3 with the issue for sure I had a ptmp AP (flexible) 2.5.1 that had an issue where no one could associate until I rebooted I would think in 2.6.x it was resolved. I haven't seen any issues myself since 2.6.x. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Josh, Was the bug in 2.6.1.x? I will certainly upgrade but just wondering how long this has been around. Thanks everyone. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 9:11 AM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. There was a bug that caused it to hang way back in the day (when the Force 200 and eptp came out). They patched my link and it quit dying entirely, but I think it was some quick reset. There's a known bug in 3.5.1 that's semi-resolved in 3.5.2 relating to this, but it is not 100% fixed from what I'm told. Upgrade to 3.5.2 and when there's a new release you'll want to upgrade when you can. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM Mathew Howard wrote: I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember what we did to fix it... I think we may have had to replace the radio. I can't remember if it was a PTP or PTMP situation, either... it was a while ago. It might be worth switching it to TDD PTP mode instead, and see if that helps. On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:14 PM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Yes de-registering the link does make the link start passing traffic again although it seems a lot shorter lived so far. Only lasted an hour. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. I don’t know. I will report back after trying it. Thanks for the idea. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. Does it start working again if you just de-register the link, instead of rebooting the radio(s)? On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Dave, I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. Thanks, Brandon From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download and less than 1mbps upload. Downlink RSSI -65 dBm Downlink SRN 30 dB Uplink MCS MCS 14 Downlink MCS MCS15 All remains constant during this time. The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is brought online around 40% at times. At this point I would assume noise is the issue. But here is the odd part I would like some help with. Rebooting the link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works perfectly for a time and falls apart again. Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with similar results. Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. Best Regards. Brandon Yuchasz -- Error! Filename not specified. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
I may mave missed it, but what freq/channel are you on at what size? On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > My eptp link was 2.4.3 with the issue for sure > > I had a ptmp AP (flexible) 2.5.1 that had an issue where no one could > associate until I rebooted > > I would think in 2.6.x it was resolved. I haven't seen any issues myself > since 2.6.x. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > >> Josh, >> >> Was the bug in 2.6.1.x? I will certainly upgrade but just wondering how >> long this has been around. >> >> >> >> Thanks everyone. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2018 9:11 AM >> *To:* AFMUG >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. >> >> >> >> There was a bug that caused it to hang way back in the day (when the >> Force 200 and eptp came out). They patched my link and it quit dying >> entirely, but I think it was some quick reset. >> >> There's a known bug in 3.5.1 that's semi-resolved in 3.5.2 relating to >> this, but it is not 100% fixed from what I'm told. Upgrade to 3.5.2 and >> when there's a new release you'll want to upgrade when you can. >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM Mathew Howard >> wrote: >> >> I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember what we did to fix >> it... I think we may have had to replace the radio. I can't remember if it >> was a PTP or PTMP situation, either... it was a while ago. >> >> >> >> It might be worth switching it to TDD PTP mode instead, and see if that >> helps. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:14 PM Brandon Yuchasz >> wrote: >> >> Yes de-registering the link does make the link start passing traffic >> again although it seems a lot shorter lived so far. Only lasted an hour. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon >> Yuchasz >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM >> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. >> >> >> >> I don’t know. I will report back after trying it. >> >> Thanks for the idea. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM >> *To:* AFMUG >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. >> >> >> >> Does it start working again if you just de-register the link, instead of >> rebooting the radio(s)? >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz >> wrote: >> >> Dave, >> >> I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in >> tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these >> odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am >> trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. >> >> >> >> Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? >> https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ >> >> On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: >> >> Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: >> >> We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. >> >> Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming >> along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download >> and less than 1mbps upload. >> >> Downlink RSSI -65 dBm >> >> Downlink SRN 30 dB >> >> Uplink MCS MCS 14 >> >> Downlink MCS MCS15 >> >> All remains constant during this time. >> >> >> >> The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although >> pings through the network to the SM or through the netw
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
My eptp link was 2.4.3 with the issue for sure I had a ptmp AP (flexible) 2.5.1 that had an issue where no one could associate until I rebooted I would think in 2.6.x it was resolved. I haven't seen any issues myself since 2.6.x. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > Josh, > > Was the bug in 2.6.1.x? I will certainly upgrade but just wondering how > long this has been around. > > > > Thanks everyone. > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2018 9:11 AM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > There was a bug that caused it to hang way back in the day (when the Force > 200 and eptp came out). They patched my link and it quit dying entirely, > but I think it was some quick reset. > > There's a known bug in 3.5.1 that's semi-resolved in 3.5.2 relating to > this, but it is not 100% fixed from what I'm told. Upgrade to 3.5.2 and > when there's a new release you'll want to upgrade when you can. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM Mathew Howard > wrote: > > I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember what we did to fix > it... I think we may have had to replace the radio. I can't remember if it > was a PTP or PTMP situation, either... it was a while ago. > > > > It might be worth switching it to TDD PTP mode instead, and see if that > helps. > > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:14 PM Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > > Yes de-registering the link does make the link start passing traffic again > although it seems a lot shorter lived so far. Only lasted an hour. > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > I don’t know. I will report back after trying it. > > Thanks for the idea. > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > Does it start working again if you just de-register the link, instead of > rebooting the radio(s)? > > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > > Dave, > > I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in > tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these > odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am > trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? > https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ > > On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > > Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: > > We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. > > Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming > along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download > and less than 1mbps upload. > > Downlink RSSI -65 dBm > > Downlink SRN 30 dB > > Uplink MCS MCS 14 > > Downlink MCS MCS15 > > All remains constant during this time. > > > > The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although > pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are > both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. > > > > The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is > brought online around 40% at times. > > > > At this point I would assume noise is the issue. > > > > *But here is the odd part I would like some help with*. Rebooting the > link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay > “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works > perfectly for a time and falls apart again. > > > > Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with > similar results. > > > > > > Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. > >
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Josh, Was the bug in 2.6.1.x? I will certainly upgrade but just wondering how long this has been around. Thanks everyone. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 9:11 AM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. There was a bug that caused it to hang way back in the day (when the Force 200 and eptp came out). They patched my link and it quit dying entirely, but I think it was some quick reset. There's a known bug in 3.5.1 that's semi-resolved in 3.5.2 relating to this, but it is not 100% fixed from what I'm told. Upgrade to 3.5.2 and when there's a new release you'll want to upgrade when you can. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM Mathew Howard wrote: I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember what we did to fix it... I think we may have had to replace the radio. I can't remember if it was a PTP or PTMP situation, either... it was a while ago. It might be worth switching it to TDD PTP mode instead, and see if that helps. On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:14 PM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Yes de-registering the link does make the link start passing traffic again although it seems a lot shorter lived so far. Only lasted an hour. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. I don’t know. I will report back after trying it. Thanks for the idea. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. Does it start working again if you just de-register the link, instead of rebooting the radio(s)? On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Dave, I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. Thanks, Brandon From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download and less than 1mbps upload. Downlink RSSI -65 dBm Downlink SRN 30 dB Uplink MCS MCS 14 Downlink MCS MCS15 All remains constant during this time. The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is brought online around 40% at times. At this point I would assume noise is the issue. But here is the odd part I would like some help with. Rebooting the link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works perfectly for a time and falls apart again. Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with similar results. Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. Best Regards. Brandon Yuchasz -- Error! Filename not specified. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
There was a bug that caused it to hang way back in the day (when the Force 200 and eptp came out). They patched my link and it quit dying entirely, but I think it was some quick reset. There's a known bug in 3.5.1 that's semi-resolved in 3.5.2 relating to this, but it is not 100% fixed from what I'm told. Upgrade to 3.5.2 and when there's a new release you'll want to upgrade when you can. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:58 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember what we did to fix > it... I think we may have had to replace the radio. I can't remember if it > was a PTP or PTMP situation, either... it was a while ago. > > It might be worth switching it to TDD PTP mode instead, and see if that > helps. > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:14 PM Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > >> Yes de-registering the link does make the link start passing traffic >> again although it seems a lot shorter lived so far. Only lasted an hour. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon >> Yuchasz >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM >> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. >> >> >> >> I don’t know. I will report back after trying it. >> >> Thanks for the idea. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM >> *To:* AFMUG >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. >> >> >> >> Does it start working again if you just de-register the link, instead of >> rebooting the radio(s)? >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz >> wrote: >> >> Dave, >> >> I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in >> tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these >> odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am >> trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. >> >> >> >> Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? >> https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ >> >> On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: >> >> Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: >> >> We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. >> >> Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming >> along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download >> and less than 1mbps upload. >> >> Downlink RSSI -65 dBm >> >> Downlink SRN 30 dB >> >> Uplink MCS MCS 14 >> >> Downlink MCS MCS15 >> >> All remains constant during this time. >> >> >> >> The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although >> pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are >> both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. >> >> >> >> The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is >> brought online around 40% at times. >> >> >> >> At this point I would assume noise is the issue. >> >> >> >> *But here is the odd part I would like some help with*. Rebooting the >> link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay >> “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works >> perfectly for a time and falls apart again. >> >> >> >> Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with >> similar results. >> >> >> >> >> >> Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. >> >> >> >> Best Regards. >> >> Brandon Yuchasz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
I've seen that happen before, but I can't remember what we did to fix it... I think we may have had to replace the radio. I can't remember if it was a PTP or PTMP situation, either... it was a while ago. It might be worth switching it to TDD PTP mode instead, and see if that helps. On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:14 PM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > Yes de-registering the link does make the link start passing traffic again > although it seems a lot shorter lived so far. Only lasted an hour. > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > I don’t know. I will report back after trying it. > > Thanks for the idea. > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > Does it start working again if you just de-register the link, instead of > rebooting the radio(s)? > > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > > Dave, > > I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in > tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these > odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am > trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? > https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ > > On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > > Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: > > We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. > > Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming > along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download > and less than 1mbps upload. > > Downlink RSSI -65 dBm > > Downlink SRN 30 dB > > Uplink MCS MCS 14 > > Downlink MCS MCS15 > > All remains constant during this time. > > > > The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although > pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are > both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. > > > > The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is > brought online around 40% at times. > > > > At this point I would assume noise is the issue. > > > > *But here is the odd part I would like some help with*. Rebooting the > link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay > “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works > perfectly for a time and falls apart again. > > > > Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with > similar results. > > > > > > Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. > > > > Best Regards. > > Brandon Yuchasz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Yes de-registering the link does make the link start passing traffic again although it seems a lot shorter lived so far. Only lasted an hour. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:56 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. I don’t know. I will report back after trying it. Thanks for the idea. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 4:02 PM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. Does it start working again if you just de-register the link, instead of rebooting the radio(s)? On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Dave, I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. Thanks, Brandon From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download and less than 1mbps upload. Downlink RSSI -65 dBm Downlink SRN 30 dB Uplink MCS MCS 14 Downlink MCS MCS15 All remains constant during this time. The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is brought online around 40% at times. At this point I would assume noise is the issue. But here is the odd part I would like some help with. Rebooting the link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works perfectly for a time and falls apart again. Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with similar results. Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. Best Regards. Brandon Yuchasz -- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
eptp From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 10:45 AM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. Are you running in eptp mode or TDD PTP? Or ptmp/wifi Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Dave, I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. Thanks, Brandon From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download and less than 1mbps upload. Downlink RSSI -65 dBm Downlink SRN 30 dB Uplink MCS MCS 14 Downlink MCS MCS15 All remains constant during this time. The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is brought online around 40% at times. At this point I would assume noise is the issue. But here is the odd part I would like some help with. Rebooting the link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works perfectly for a time and falls apart again. Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with similar results. Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. Best Regards. Brandon Yuchasz -- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Does it start working again if you just de-register the link, instead of rebooting the radio(s)? On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > Dave, > > I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in > tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these > odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am > trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? > https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ > > On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > > Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: > > We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. > > Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming > along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download > and less than 1mbps upload. > > Downlink RSSI -65 dBm > > Downlink SRN 30 dB > > Uplink MCS MCS 14 > > Downlink MCS MCS15 > > All remains constant during this time. > > > > The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although > pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are > both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. > > > > The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is > brought online around 40% at times. > > > > At this point I would assume noise is the issue. > > > > *But here is the odd part I would like some help with*. Rebooting the > link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay > “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works > perfectly for a time and falls apart again. > > > > Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with > similar results. > > > > > > Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. > > > > Best Regards. > > Brandon Yuchasz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
You may be surprised at what you may learn once making contact with them. There are alot of unknowns here so the more you can elaborate on the details of config and such would help the list to define what may be the issue. Also, The cambium forum is a good place to open up for discussion. I learned tons about the Epmp2000 and ptp550 while on there. On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download and less than 1mbps upload. Downlink RSSI -65 dBm Downlink SRN 30 dB Uplink MCS MCS 14 Downlink MCS MCS15 All remains constant during this time. The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is brought online around 40% at times. At this point I would assume noise is the issue. *_But here is the odd part I would like some help with_*. Rebooting the link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works perfectly for a time and falls apart again. Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with similar results. Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. Best Regards. Brandon Yuchasz -- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Try latest firmware as well 3.5.2 On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 8:46 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > Are you running in eptp mode or TDD PTP? Or ptmp/wifi > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz > wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in >> tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these >> odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am >> trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. >> >> >> >> Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? >> https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ >> >> On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: >> >> Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: >> >> We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. >> >> Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming >> along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download >> and less than 1mbps upload. >> >> Downlink RSSI -65 dBm >> >> Downlink SRN 30 dB >> >> Uplink MCS MCS 14 >> >> Downlink MCS MCS15 >> >> All remains constant during this time. >> >> >> >> The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although >> pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are >> both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. >> >> >> >> The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is >> brought online around 40% at times. >> >> >> >> At this point I would assume noise is the issue. >> >> >> >> *But here is the odd part I would like some help with*. Rebooting the >> link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay >> “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works >> perfectly for a time and falls apart again. >> >> >> >> Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with >> similar results. >> >> >> >> >> >> Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. >> >> >> >> Best Regards. >> >> Brandon Yuchasz >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Are you running in eptp mode or TDD PTP? Or ptmp/wifi Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:33 AM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > Dave, > > I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn’t have much faith in > tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these > odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am > trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. > > > > Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? > https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ > > On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > > Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: > > We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. > > Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming > along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download > and less than 1mbps upload. > > Downlink RSSI -65 dBm > > Downlink SRN 30 dB > > Uplink MCS MCS 14 > > Downlink MCS MCS15 > > All remains constant during this time. > > > > The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although > pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are > both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. > > > > The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is > brought online around 40% at times. > > > > At this point I would assume noise is the issue. > > > > *But here is the odd part I would like some help with*. Rebooting the > link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay > “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works > perfectly for a time and falls apart again. > > > > Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with > similar results. > > > > > > Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. > > > > Best Regards. > > Brandon Yuchasz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Dave, I have not seems like such a strange issue I didn't have much faith in tech support. My experience is the list seems to have better info on these odd issues. One side of this link requires snow shoes to get to so I am trying to avoid replacement if at all possible. Thanks, Brandon From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:01 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues. Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download and less than 1mbps upload. Downlink RSSI -65 dBm Downlink SRN 30 dB Uplink MCS MCS 14 Downlink MCS MCS15 All remains constant during this time. The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are both fine it's just between them that starts to drop packets. The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is brought online around 40% at times. At this point I would assume noise is the issue. But here is the odd part I would like some help with. Rebooting the link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay "broken" until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works perfectly for a time and falls apart again. Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with similar results. Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. Best Regards. Brandon Yuchasz -- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Have you placed a support request to cambium yet? https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/ On 12/3/18 7:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download and less than 1mbps upload. Downlink RSSI -65 dBm Downlink SRN 30 dB Uplink MCS MCS 14 Downlink MCS MCS15 All remains constant during this time. The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are both fine it’s just between them that starts to drop packets. The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is brought online around 40% at times. At this point I would assume noise is the issue. *_But here is the odd part I would like some help with_*. Rebooting the link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay “broken” until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works perfectly for a time and falls apart again. Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with similar results. Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. Best Regards. Brandon Yuchasz -- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] odd Force 200 backhaul issues.
Looking to see if anyone has experienced a similar issue to this: We have a force 200 backhaul on a small bridged network. Several times a day now it stops passing most traffic. It can be humming along at 25mbps down and 5mbps upload and then drop down to 2mbps download and less than 1mbps upload. Downlink RSSI -65 dBm Downlink SRN 30 dB Uplink MCS MCS 14 Downlink MCS MCS15 All remains constant during this time. The ping falls apart during this time between the AP and the SM although pings through the network to the SM or through the network from the AM are both fine it's just between them that starts to drop packets. The units show heavy retransmission packets from the moment the link is brought online around 40% at times. At this point I would assume noise is the issue. But here is the odd part I would like some help with. Rebooting the link fixes the issue but leaving the link alone does not. It will stay "broken" until one or both sides of the link are rebooted. Then it works perfectly for a time and falls apart again. Current firmware is 3.5.1 but we have run it on 2.6.1.1 and 3.3 with similar results. Any thoughts on how to troubleshot this one would be awesome. Best Regards. Brandon Yuchasz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
