Re: [AFMUG] OT: Obtaining a Failed Business Phone Number

2015-04-01 Thread Paul Stewart
Catching up on email this morning and that song was just playing on XM radio ….. great song…. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Obtaining a Failed Business Phone Number Maybe I

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
What does Adam Armstrong’s Linkedin profile say “Wispa Connoisseur”? He likes Wispa candy bars? It seems ironic if he looks down on WISPs. From: David Milholen Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread David Milholen
Some folks in the coding world think they have the million dollar code and is above everyone else when in reality they suck at everything else and only have a decent piece of code nothing more. This is where open source gets versatile and ugly at times because someone that is willing to build

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Baird
A lot of the products that WISPs use have historically had sketchy (and ever changing) SNMP support which is probably one reason he is acting the way that he is. I am -not- making an excuse for his behavior or attitude; just stating a fact. Josh On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:44 AM, WaveDirect

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Baird
Ha, that is funny. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: What does Adam Armstrong’s Linkedin profile say “Wispa Connoisseur”? He likes Wispa candy bars? It seems ironic if he looks down on WISPs. *From:* David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread WaveDirect
Just shows you what sort person this guy is. Let him rot in his own cesspool of hate. He just saw a bunch of work ahead of him that would benefit a great deal of people, took a half assed stab at it and then said naw I'm too lazy I don't want to do it. Its a classic case of cognitive

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Paul Stewart
That’s the same in a lot of the telco world as well… DSLAM’s, DS3 Mux gear, DWDM gear .. various stuff.. they all have “weird” SNMP support at times…;) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Bill Prince
Just different volumes. Tens of millions of units versus a million, or maybe a few hundred thousand. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/1/2015 7:01 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: That’s the same in a lot of the telco world as well… DSLAM’s, DS3 Mux gear, DWDM gear .. various stuff.. they all have

Re: [AFMUG] ePmP FW 2.4 bug?

2015-04-01 Thread Shayne Lebrun
They do. Better to just remove the non-gigE options from the list of things it’ll autonegotiate. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 6:33 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePmP FW 2.4 bug? That's what I've always heard... I

[AFMUG] ePMP router mode?

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Baird
Is it possible yet to put a ePMP SM in router mode? No NAT, no bridge. Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa ??

2015-04-01 Thread TJ Trout
wait a year and ask again On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Hola vatos locos! Any one install these yet? http://mimosa.co/home/Products/Backhaul/B5-Lite.html How they working? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa ??

2015-04-01 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't think they're available yet... I think they're supposed to be shipping in June. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Hola vatos locos! Any one install these yet? http://mimosa.co/home/Products/Backhaul/B5-Lite.html How they working? Jaime

[AFMUG] Mimosa ??

2015-04-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hola vatos locos! Any one install these yet? http://mimosa.co/home/Products/Backhaul/B5-Lite.html How they working? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa ??

2015-04-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Orale...cool! Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think they're available yet... I think they're supposed to be shipping in June. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie

2015-04-01 Thread Peter Kranz
Kurt, you can't take a selflie which shows insufficient waterproofing on the N-connectors and expect us not to say something.. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Rory Conaway
Matt, the usual reason for not releasing information is that you don’t want your competitors to know what you are doing. I get that. At this point though, Mimosa is sharing it’s release schedules almost a year in advance, and both they and Cambium have had DFS on their WiFi chipsets since

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Carl Peterson
For Google, more like a raindrop. On Apr 1, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I’m thinking Google just took a bath on their 60GHz company purchase if this product works well. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie

2015-04-01 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm okay with N connectors... it's not that bog of a deal to just seal them, I haven't had one leak in years. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You mean other than what I already said? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Josh can only apparently read one sentence. The second sentence of that e-mail explains why. Screw the connector on and call it a day. Ain't nobody got time for weatherproofing... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] C3VoIP-150

2015-04-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
I swear these must be OEM from Zhone or they used the same industrial design consultant that Zhone/Paradyne used in the past. See for example: http://www.zhone.com/products/6211/ From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Luthman
For 1/2 or 1 mile shots? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I would be so afraid of rain with 60 GHz. *From:* Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 1,

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Matt Hardy
v5.6 is getting close, there are rumors of RC/Final release coming soon ... ;) For NanoBeam, we did just receive some good news from the lab this week, so it appears there is light at the end of the tunnel. I wish I had more I could share, but we'll definitely keep you updated as we get more

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Rory Conaway
I’m thinking Google just took a bath on their 60GHz company purchase if this product works well. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 6:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Mathew Howard
It's also slightly too believable to be a proper April fools joke... Now I just need to figure out where to use these things. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: It must be pretty elaborate because I talked to Hal for quote some time about the product,

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Matt Hardy
I have to admit Ubiquiti doesn't have a great track record of SNMP support (I know I know) ;) -- but we're working on it. Trying to get it right in v5.6 with our new / custom MIB. If you guys need devices to test with, we'll be glad to donate a few... Thanks, Matt On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread chuck
Quarter wavelength at 60 GHz is .049” Drops of rain are that size or larger. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 6:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP For 1/2 or 1 mile shots? Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Cool Jaime Solorza On Apr 1, 2015 7:56 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: It must be pretty elaborate because I talked to Hal for quote some time about the product, roadmaps, engineering, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Luthman
You said down with them, I don't see why. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 9:49 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You mean other than what I already said? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

[AFMUG] C3VoIP-150

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Is it just me or is the C3VoIP-150 missing WiFi? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread chuck
I would be so afraid of rain with 60 GHz. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 5:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP wow!!! Game changer! Gino A. Villarini President From: Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
What if this is an April Fools joke Jaime Solorza On Apr 1, 2015 7:28 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: All of our AirFiber deployments with any distance got PowerBridges as backups. It’s time had come. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I like the daily e-mail report I get on the number of messaged blocked by what methods. IIRC, I've got AMAVIS, SPAMAssassin, Pyzor, Razor and some RBLs. Works well enough. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie

2015-04-01 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Because he can't stick an SFP in it? ;) On 4/1/2015 9:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You said down with them, I don't see why. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 9:49 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
So much spam now comes from accounts with compromised credentials (via SMTP AUTH or webmail), I think both RBLs and greylisting are somewhat outdated techniques, don’t expect them to be as effective as in 1995 or 2005. Use them if you wish to reduce the load on your mail filter, but you aren’t

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
UBNT should take some notes. 24GHz FDD with a built-in 5GHz TDD hot-standby backup would be killer. When the 24GHz is faded and its capacity drops below the 5GHz capacity, switch the data path internally, instantly. On 4/1/2015 7:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: For 1/2 or 1 mile shots? Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
That would be a pretty awesome product! AF24+AF5X On April 1, 2015 4:10:47 PM AKDT, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: UBNT should take some notes. 24GHz FDD with a built-in 5GHz TDD hot-standby backup would be killer. When the 24GHz is faded and its capacity drops

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad Webinar

2015-04-01 Thread Trevor Bough
Yeah the longer webinar is what I'm asking about here. Does Patrick have any info on this? On Mar 31, 2015 8:58 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Probably so, telrad did about a two hour webinar a few weeks ago - Original Message - *From:* Zack Deveaux

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Bill Prince
Would work out to maybe a kilometer... bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/1/2015 5:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I would be so afraid of rain with 60 GHz. *From:* Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 1, 2015 5:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
TTI was so ahead on some things We installed several 23Ghz and 31GHz licensed links with 2.4GHz back up built in. We even installed Karlnet 5Ghz RadioLAN with 2.4GHz back. Aironet and NCR wavelan cards. Back in the 90s Jaime Solorza On Apr 1, 2015 6:23 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I've asked a few vendors for dual 24/5, but other things were higher on my priority list. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Rory Conaway
All of our AirFiber deployments with any distance got PowerBridges as backups. It’s time had come. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 6:12 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq -

Re: [AFMUG] Better Drawing

2015-04-01 Thread David Milholen
Me LIKEY! On 4/1/2015 1:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: So you can mount all your intertubes on the tilty towers. --

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
It must be pretty elaborate because I talked to Hal for quote some time about the product, roadmaps, engineering, etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com To: Animal Farm

Re: [AFMUG] C3VoIP-150

2015-04-01 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
FlyingVoice On 4/1/2015 10:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I swear these must be OEM from Zhone or they used the same industrial design consultant that Zhone/Paradyne used in the past. See for example: http://www.zhone.com/products/6211/ *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net *Sent:* Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt
I was at their roadshow in Prague. Talked to Hal regarding this product. Looks very promising. Their other solutions look very elaborated so I guess they can do it. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net Datum: 02.04.2015 03:55 (GMT+01:00) An:

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Brett A Mansfield
As you all probably know I've been looking for cost effective very short range 60GHz for some time now. This is exactly what I'm looking for. I can use it to deploy smaller cells with decent speeds to cover holes in my network. And without using up more of my precious 5GHz spectrum that is

Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie

2015-04-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
That is an awesome Beatnik look. Copacetic man Cue in the bongos. Yeah Jaime Solorza On Apr 1, 2015 4:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: New link Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel.

Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I haven't had leaks either, but I've also largely left them behind. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com To: af af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:02:08 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] C3VoIP-150

2015-04-01 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Yes which is why they're working on something new. On 4/1/2015 9:36 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Is it just me or is the C3VoIP-150 missing WiFi? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Peter Kranz
Amavisd-new is the normal solution that covers all this.. wraps all the various opensource solutions together. http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/ Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-

Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Lewis Bergman
Most cell carriers I have on my towers have 12x12. 12 1 5/8 lines to 12 antenna that are 72x 8. Those are quickly being replaced by 12 antenna with 12 RDU and one or two hybrid cables that are about 1. The biggest difference is likely the coaxial line's weight and wind load. With that many

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
People use 60 GHz all the time, but as Luthman pointed out, for short shots. 60 GHz is actually the preferred band for urban deployments given that oxygen takes care of interference. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Daniel White
+1. 60GHz is probably the best RF band for high density deployments period. Most people will have a hard time past 500m with 60GHz… but this product is missing a critical field, RX sensitivity (datasheet says TBD). I deployed a lot of 60GHz at BridgeWave personally… even had a BridgeWave

Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Down with N connectors! Since UBNT started with the IP67 rated RPSMA, that's all I've wanted to deal with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
That seems pretty reasonable. I've only ever used Proxmox's virtualization stuff. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 4:50:25 PM

Re: [AFMUG] cambium selfie

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Luthman
What's wrong with N? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 9:38 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Down with N connectors! Since UBNT started with the IP67 rated RPSMA, that's all I've wanted to deal with.

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread David Milholen
Mike, Look into Spamdyke. We have used it for years and has great logging with a neat feature called Greylisting. Unlike SA it sits right in front of the TCP connections coming into the Server which gives you a little more power to manipulate ALL sorts of Lists for whitelist,blacklist,DNSBL or

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Mathew Howard
I think the reason for not releasing information in this case is that they don't actually know... On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Matt, the usual reason for not releasing information is that you don’t want your competitors to know what you are doing.

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Lewis Bergman
Don't. Just shut your mail server of and tell them to go to Google or hotmail or something. Is they are a businesses, charge them a few hundred bucks to set the whole thing up and wash your hands of it. Not very helpful I know but that it's my trite opinion. On Apr 1, 2015 3:53 PM, Tim Reichhart

Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Valmont SDF1U is 310 lbs without any antennas or radios. 500 lbs easy. From: Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 12:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$ We have an ideal tower location with nothing else really close that we can use.

Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Ask on the tower Facebook group. I bet most would know real quick. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 2:29 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: We have an ideal tower location with nothing else really close that we

Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Caleb Knauer
They may also be thinking they can make a lot more money with cell stuff being added later, so maybe find some info relaying how not much cell gear will go that high in your area. Basically, the top section is not a big money maker for them. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Paul McCall

Re: [AFMUG] accessing router behind canopy NAT

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Gawlowski
If you deleted all of your firewall rules then the MT won’t pass any traffic. You still have the 4 accept rules (2 forward and 2 input) in there right? Mike From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

[AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Paul McCall
We have an ideal tower location with nothing else really close that we can use. 500+ guyed tower, with the upper 150 feet and lower 100 feet basically clear. It has 4 ½ levels of cell gear between 100 ft. and 180 feet, so has a decent wind load on it. It's the only tower this family owns

Re: [AFMUG] accessing router behind canopy NAT

2015-04-01 Thread Bill Prince
If you delete all the rules, then there are no rules. It will accept anything from anywhere forward them as well. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/1/2015 10:59 AM, Michael Gawlowski wrote: If you deleted /all /of your firewall rules then the MT won’t pass any traffic. You still have the

Re: [AFMUG] Better Drawing

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Neat! Like the sliding idea Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 2:16 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So you can mount all your intertubes on the tilty towers.

Re: [AFMUG] New product in the pipeline

2015-04-01 Thread Ty Featherling
I like it and I have the perfect place to use it. -Ty On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Better Drawing

2015-04-01 Thread Ty Featherling
Adjustable is very handy. -Ty On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Neat! Like the sliding idea Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 2:16 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP router mode?

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Not yet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 11:37 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible yet to put a ePMP SM in router mode? No NAT, no bridge. Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Bill Prince
Also point out the different power demand. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/1/2015 11:39 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote: They may also be thinking they can make a lot more money with cell stuff being added later, so maybe find some info relaying how not much cell gear will go that high in your area.

Re: [AFMUG] accessing router behind canopy NAT

2015-04-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
only rule in it is masquerade for NAT Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 1, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Michael Gawlowski m...@triadwireless.net wrote: If you deleted all of your

Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe they could hire these guys: http://www.steelintheair.com/ From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$ Well and if there's already four cell carriers on it... who else is there? -

Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Chuck McCown
What the hell is paging... -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$ Exactly, cellular is cellular, laid out in cells, they want to be 100 to 250 feet above ground, no

Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Exactly, cellular is cellular, laid out in cells, they want to be 100 to 250 feet above ground, no higher or all you accomplish is to overshoot your cell and interfere with the next cell. 100-250 feet is the prime real estate. Then paging and 2way at the top. Maybe backhaul dishes around 100

Re: [AFMUG] Tower owner new to the business - wants $$

2015-04-01 Thread Paul McCall
We would be responsible for pulling own electrical service no matter what... not a biggie cost... some towers already make us do that -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

[AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Announcing MetroLinq - world's first low-cost 60GHz PTP

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
FYI New company to me, but I've known of Hal for a few companies now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Forwarded Message - From: Harold Bledsoe hbled...@ignitenet.com To: advertiseme...@wispa.org Cc: a...@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I was just suggesting you can use your same client but connect to Gmail via IMAP or pop. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 5:26 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: Josh As I already stated I don’t like gmail

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Adam Moffett
Really? 5.99 Euros /Month / CPU socket They use commas where we would use decimal points, which is sometimes confusing at first glance. For a four CPU server that's around $260/year. If Barracuda is that cheap then I'd better give Barracuda another look! Adam That is just as bad as

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa ??

2015-04-01 Thread Jaime Fink
+1 Rory. All correct. On Apr 1, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I don’t think it will be that long. There are a lot of B5’s out there and they work well. The B5-Lite is the same processor with a couple of snips. No reason to expect much difference except

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Gmail on pop/imap Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2015 5:06 PM, Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com wrote: I have tried gmail before and I didn’t like it… Tim *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Tim Reichhart
Josh As I already stated I don’t like gmail and I already have an email server setup. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 5:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter Gmail on pop/imap

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Mike Hammett
My environment just uses SPAMAssassin with a few plugins. No cost. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tim Reichhart t...@nwohiobb.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 4:26:47 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
It seems to me as simple as he doesn't want to support anything beyond the standard MIBs, no enterprise MIBs. Ooo, interface statistics and system uptime, that's everything you need to know! On 4/1/2015 9:49 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Just different volumes. Tens of millions of units versus a

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Chuck McCown
gmail... From: Tim Reichhart Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter Hey Guys Who do you guys use for spam filter like barracuda but in open source for your email server? Tim

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Adam Moffett
The proxmox spam filter is surprisingly good for what it costs. Hey Guys Who do you guys use for spam filter like barracuda but in open source for your email server? Tim

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Tim Reichhart
Adam That is just as bad as barracuda pricing…. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 5:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter The proxmox spam filter is surprisingly good for what it

Re: [AFMUG] accessing router behind canopy NAT

2015-04-01 Thread Michael Gawlowski
You’re right, Bill. The filter rules I mentioned are not necessary. I was thinking of the NAT masquerade rule. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] accessing router behind canopy NAT If

Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-01 Thread Shayne Lebrun
To be fair, there are a lot of ‘standard’ mibs that companies either don’t implement (I wish Mikrotik would implement the OSPF mib, for example) or reimplement for no good reason (countless devices that ignore the Interfaces mib, and roll their own interface counters in their enterprise tree.)

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Tim Reichhart
Adam I am trying to stay way per year license. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 5:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter Really? 5.99 Euros /Month / CPU socket They use commas

Re: [AFMUG] open source email spam filter

2015-04-01 Thread Paul Stewart
Spamassassin combined with RBL's and greylisting . if you implement greylisting you'll want to whitelist some systems (like Amazon EWS for example where this list originates from) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 5:04 PM To: