Re: [AFMUG] Trouble upgrading from 13.4 B7 to 13.4 Release

2015-07-08 Thread Wireless Admin
If you are using Dude on the same machine or any other program using port 80 kill that program before starting CNUT since it needs port 80. Verify CNUT is using the correct IP address by going into update/http server configure. I know you said 13.4 firmware which rules out ePMP1000 but that

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

2015-07-08 Thread chuck
Second mover advantage really works out well with emerging technologies. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 12:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? I completely disagree with my esteemed colleague, Mr. Webster. Being second to the

Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

2015-07-08 Thread Nate Burke
My last order was from Mouser, I can find the shielded ends (32-2098WUL) for about the same price I last paid, but the Unshielded (32-5998UL) have gone up about $0.10/end everywhere I can find them, I paid $0.34/end last time, now they start at about $0.45 On 7/6/2015 6:09 PM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

2015-07-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
Can’t you argue that is not a fair rate, take it to the FCC now ! IF they are charging 29.99 or 59.99 for residential and they want you to pay 90 bucks a month just to get the drop in?? Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.netmailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread chuck
Same parts same source in China... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 6:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni That link shows plots that sure look like 0 degrees. Identical to L-Com part? Same plots. From: TJ Trout Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 7:14 PM

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread chuck
That’s probably the max. From: TJ Trout Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 6:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni 2* is my guess On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=81Cat= Does this antenna have down

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

2015-07-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
I can agree here as well. Get the customers in via wireless, since they have a build out time, but like I said, I would either work on overbuilding it with your own fiber, or go ahead and see about transporting across there fiber, then when you know they overbuilt your wireless customers, you

[AFMUG] want to buy. 900mhz Yagi M2 Antennas

2015-07-08 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Anyone have any 900mhz yagi antennas they want to sell. We use the 15dbi M2 antenna's at all our sites so in the interest of keeping things the same for training and installing I am not interest in any other brands. I figured I would see if anyone had some sitting around before I placed an order

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread chuck
Sigh I would love to do that. But so many antennas, so little time... -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 10:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni Same parts same source in China... How about you make 3.6GHZ and 2.4GHZ

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

2015-07-08 Thread Rory Conaway
Can you be more specific? Right now you have 802.11ac with nothing coming behind it in the same price category. You have different flavors of 802.11ac technologies but the fundamentals are the same. I don’t believe being second to fiber is a good move. Rory From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

2015-07-08 Thread Rory Conaway
Did I misunderstand the goal? Was the question to put fiber in first or put in wireless first? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Second

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Radio TODAY --Jay Rohr from eVangaurd Solutions Inc

2015-07-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
Sorry everyone, wrong subject line.. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.netmailto:den...@linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 - www.linktechs.nethttp://www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 10:39 AM

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread Matt
Same parts same source in China... How about you make 3.6GHZ and 2.4GHZ versions. Some very rural pops with less then 10 subs I require other options. That link shows plots that sure look like 0 degrees. Identical to L-Com part? Same plots. 2* is my guess On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at

[AFMUG] ISP Radio TODAY -- Larry Donahue from Law 4 Small Business

2015-07-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
http://www.ispradio.com/Today Jay Rohr from eVangaurd Solutions Inc. will talk about streamlining your business mailing needs! Our call in number at 636-707-0074. Wednesday 11am CST -- Just in a bit! Don't forgot you can download the previous episodes to put on your media player and

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Telrad. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: Hey folks… Who’s making 2.5Ghz gear these days for multipoint? Thanks, Paul

[AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Hey folks. Who's making 2.5Ghz gear these days for multipoint? Thanks, Paul

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

2015-07-08 Thread Christopher Gray
Right now, I'm not installing any of my own fiber. All new expansion is wireless. They do not plan on allowing anyone other than the owner to use the network. I'm pushing for other options, but it seems unlikely they will open it. Once they are closer to lighting their service, I plan to make at

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Compared to the Arc, that lumpy pattern is really, really nice... I think most sectors are closer to 360 degrees. I think the pattern on the UBNT omni is really pretty close to the KPP/L-Com/WB, but those seem to be built a bit better, and Chuck's ePMP integration is pretty nice. On Wed, Jul 8,

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
And people call me the grammar nazi! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: I think your are confused between making something and inventing something. Or

[AFMUG] Verizon DSL for Resale?

2015-07-08 Thread Christopher Gray
Is there a Verizon DSL product that can be used for ISP bandwidth? I'm using fiber for my main service, but I do not have a second provider. Verizon DSL is the only other option for service nearby. I'm thinking about getting a DSL service at a few sites for failover if it can be done. Thanks,

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
+1 The L-com/KP/WB has quite a bit of variation, especially the horizontal. We messed with one, turned it +/- 90 degrees and found a sweet spot where the V H was nearly identical and left it facing the majority of the customers (450). The vertical would vary maybe 1-2dB while the horizontal

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
NLayer, TINet or one of their other acquisitions? ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 1:07:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen roof mounts? Where do you guys get them?

2015-07-08 Thread Jeremy
Skywalker sells them for cheap. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Nello from places like Tessco. If you want a small one with a 1.66” pipe, I have used these: http://www.aisatellite.com/files/product/pdf/NPR-18C3.pdf I’m not sure I’d put a dish on it in a

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Patrick Leary
Looking at one such base station here in Puerto Rico as we speak. It installs later today. Patrick Leary, Telrad On Jul 8, 2015 12:33 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Telrad. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread Colin Stanners
Is it just me or are a number of the higher - quality WISP antenna manufacturers loving the KBT omnis? On Jul 8, 2015 10:06 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Same parts same source in China... *From:* Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2015 6:46 PM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
What's KBT? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or are a number of the higher - quality WISP antenna manufacturers loving the KBT omnis? On Jul

[AFMUG] WTB: Powercode BMU GX226

2015-07-08 Thread Jeremy
I would like a backup BMU to have on hand but don't exactly want to spend $3K on a GX446 just to sit on my shelf. Does anyone have a used BMU that they'd like to sell? I want a GX226 at minimum. I know it is a long shot, but I figure it can't hurt to try the list before I drop three grand on a

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread chuck
Everyone seems to be buying from the same source. From: Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 10:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni Is it just me or are a number of the higher - quality WISP antenna manufacturers loving the KBT omnis? On Jul 8, 2015 10:06 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: Powercode BMU GX226

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I know someone that is still looking as well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I would like a backup BMU to have on hand but don't exactly want to spend $3K on a

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread Mathew Howard
I think I've actual only seen three different kinds of dual polarity omnis. UBNT and Arc are the only ones that seem to be different. The ones like Chuck sells seem the best, UBNT are second and Arc are complete trash. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

2015-07-08 Thread Rory Conaway
Ahh, I was thinking deploy wireless first before the fiber. I could care less if they brought the fiber in later. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal

[AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-08 Thread Rory Conaway
I was told they are pulling out of Tucson. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread chuck
They all come from the same place. The only thing we offer is a very nice integrated mechanical option for the ePMP 450 Very clean integration. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni I haven’t seen chuck’s but we have a

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Interesting.. so I hear that Huawei makes stuff too but I'm leary of them. will check out Telrad though for sure. Thanks, Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 12:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble upgrading from 13.4 B7 to 13.4 Release

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
You don't need the CNUT HTTP server if you're doing AP as file server for SM auto-update. CNUT opens an FTP session with the AP either for SM auto-update or to update the AP itself. I suspect Steve has something between his CNUT machine and the AP that won't update that's screwing up the FTP

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread Rory Conaway
I haven’t seen chuck’s but we have a lot of the UBNT ones up. They work well. The only problem we have had is the caps coming off and the screws coming off between the mount and the antenna. Have to locktite those and add silicon around the cap.. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Stewart
As in GTT - IP Transit provider? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 1:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT I was told they are pulling out of Tucson. Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO 4226 S. 37th

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Alpha might be better but AFAIK only makes 2.5 and 3.5 GHz. My experience with KPP and L-Com which are apparently from the same source as Chuck’s has been the performance is mediocre at best. The gain doesn’t seem like it is really 13 dBi, the azimuth pattern is quite lumpy, and the V/H ratio

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't think Huawei makes anything, do they? Pretty sure they just copy another manufacturer's product that's built next door. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Well they are definitely known for copying others … don’t know much about their wireless stuff though… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear I don't think Huawei makes

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
I think your are confused between making something and inventing something. Or maybe originating something. China makes lots of stuff, they just don't come up with much of it. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I don't think Huawei makes anything, do

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
A friend of mine installed a couple in an old theater for a TED or some other high-nerd level event. Performed flawlessly. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Is this the indoor panel looking unit? Make sure you set medium or full tx power. Auto tx power seems to be broken (at least for me). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:18 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
flawless at 30mbps. On Jul 8, 2015 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: A friend of mine installed a couple in an old theater for a TED or some other high-nerd level event. Performed flawlessly. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
forums seem to confirm that no one has ever done better than 30 except with a Mac doing 3x3 On Jul 8, 2015 1:32 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: flawless at 30mbps. On Jul 8, 2015 1:30 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: A friend of mine installed a couple in an old theater for a TED

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread James Craig
Hey TJ, Have you tried forcing WPA2-AES only for encryption (assuming not an open system) ? On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: and I mentioned someone that it worked great for (Yes, it was a TED conference), so they can't all be garbage. - Mike

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Patrick Leary
That would be leery. Patrick Leary, Telrad On Jul 8, 2015 2:07 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: Interesting.. so I hear that Huawei makes stuff too but I’m leary of them… will check out Telrad though for sure… Thanks, Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of

[AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
just installed some unifi uap-ac s and they perform terrible. max 30mbps when the label reads 1750 mbps, anyone else have similar results ?

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Heskett
Noise? On Wednesday, July 8, 2015, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: just installed some unifi uap-ac s and they perform terrible. max 30mbps when the label reads 1750 mbps, anyone else have similar results ?

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread Matt Hardy
Hey TJ, This isn't a known issue... what software version are you using? Thanks, Matt On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:33 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: forums seem to confirm that no one has ever done better than 30 except with a Mac doing 3x3 On Jul 8, 2015 1:32 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
and I mentioned someone that it worked great for (Yes, it was a TED conference), so they can't all be garbage. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
800 in 80 mhz on WiFi? Maybe... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 8, 2015 4:44 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: They ran at least a few hundred megabit through it. Also, it's WiFi, cut that 1750 in half. That's also

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
i was just reading that there might be a known hardware flaw in early revision uap-ac's? ubnt asked a tech review website to retest the uap after sending him a new revision of hardware? On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:07 PM, James Craig ja...@ubnt.com wrote: Hey TJ, Have you tried forcing WPA2-AES

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen roof mounts? Where do you guys get them?

2015-07-08 Thread Randy Cosby
bairdmounts.com for anything heavier than a single SM. Good prices, great quality. On 7/8/2015 11:07 AM, Jeremy wrote: Skywalker sells them for cheap. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: Nello from places like Tessco. If you

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
the latest I think 3.2.1 or something like that. not near the controller at the moment. google uap-ac slow and you will find plenty of people talking about it. seems like it might be a limitation to a single client. range is also really really poor. pretty disappointed. On Jul 8, 2015 1:41 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
I thought I was doing something wrong until I found multiple forum posts with the same problem. remove the uap from the router and can get full gig speeds on that port, plug it back in and it negotiates at 1gbps, air rate with different ac clients is max of 300 on 5 or 2.4 which should yeld 100+

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
nope, did a sa all clean. tried every channel and width. have a 9 year old tplink that gives more bandwidth. On Jul 8, 2015 1:16 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Noise? On Wednesday, July 8, 2015, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: just installed some unifi uap-ac s and they perform

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I avoid their forums unless I have to. Too many morons and fanboys. Now that said, I haven't heard of this 30 megabit limitation. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

2015-07-08 Thread Rory Conaway
I completely disagree with my esteemed colleague, Mr. Webster. Being second to the game is like trying to ask a girl to the prom who has already been asked. If you snooze, you lose. If you get the customers first, especially if you get 2 year contracts, they will have a lot harder time

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
LOL, now that's funny! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Jul 8, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote: That would be leery. Patrick Leary, Telrad On Jul 8, 2015 2:07 PM, Paul

Re: [AFMUG] Sales Person Commission

2015-07-08 Thread Darin Steffl
Just pinging members again after the holiday to see if any others have input on sales people. There has been some good feedback so far. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com wrote: Hello all, I was talking with another WISP on sales commission for a new rep

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Sales Person Commission

2015-07-08 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
One point that I would add to this discussion is that with the changes in the federal regulations proposed by the DOL (read more here: http://www.wagehourinsights.com/exemptions/the-new-flsa-regulations-what-changed-what-didnt-whats-next-for-employers/), WISPs need to carefully evaluate whether

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
- 1000 Let me clarify. Customer has subscribed to a certain speed tier, let's say 5 Mbps. So LLNW consistently sends 10 Mbps of traffic to this customer, half of which gets dumped on the floor. Actually half of the customer's traffic gets randomly dropped, not just the LLNW traffic. The

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon DSL for Resale?

2015-07-08 Thread Michael Davis
We used DSL to feed towers when we had no other option - better than nothing. But it worked only because we also sell DSL and DSL connections are terminated at our facilities. (Was Verizon, now Frontier.) We controlled the IP configuration and routing, which allowed us to handle wireless

[AFMUG] Tower abandonment

2015-07-08 Thread Rory Conaway
We found a tower that is on a private residence. The company that put it up stopped paying rent 18 months ago to the homeowner and 30 days ago, they abandoned the entire area. There is nothing in the contract about abandonment. Legally, can the property owner rent out the tower to another

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
Is this only from LLNW? I swear I've seen it from other CDNs as well. I don't see any way around this other than throwing bandwidth at it. And as you mention, this means upstream bandwidth and backhaul links between towers. On 7/8/2015 5:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: This has been discussed in

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
GTT is finally integrating their various acquisitions. There was a bit of press last month with Dan Rayburn, GTT, Free Press and M-Labs. Free Press took some M-Labs data, completely made some shit up and then blamed ATT for blowing like no one has ever blown before... except a couple problems.

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
That was probably their way of saying you're not in the cool kids club anymore. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 8:01:11 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Solar pricing

2015-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, We could never justify having to deal with all the extra BS of a solar/wind site. If $50/month for the power is a big expense at this new site, you may want to consider a new business model. :) Travis On 7/8/2015 5:55 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: Hey guys, I'm looking at a site where we

Re: [AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
I'm not really an expert by any means, but from what I've learned your can either filter it at your core/edge routers and take the bandwidth hit (assuming excess cpu and bandwidth) or block it farther upstream either manually by per incident request with your upstream or a bgp black hole

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have an L-Com omni that we replaced about a week ago because it blew its top. I took a look inside it today, there ain’t much in there. Curious if the guts of the Alpha antenna are more impressive. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] I forgot to ask, do you need paper?

2015-07-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Where are the osha-mandated straps? And hardhat probably. Don't forget the two on the ground supervisors each ready to rescue you at a moment's notice. Or at least look at each other with a what do we do now? look. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 7:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That is the

[AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation

2015-07-08 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Wondering if anyone has a magic answer to DDOS mitigation beyond “buy more bandwidth”? We a couple of attacks this evening and had to turn of block advertisements for quite some time… Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 519-449-5656 x-600

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-08 Thread Bill Prince
We did another couple groups of updates to 13.4 last night. On one sector we had a couple of very low volume users on P8 FSK. Both of them bricked. Well, not exactly bricked. We should have updated them to newer hardware a long time ago, and since they were not heavy users, it really was not

Re: [AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation

2015-07-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/8/15 7:48 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: Wondering if anyone has a magic answer to DDOS mitigation beyond “buy more bandwidth”? Other than having excess bandwidth to absorb it or null routing the target IP upstream, there's DDoS scrubbing services like Prolexic. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Denial of service mitigation

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
How's that going to work? Route all of your traffic to them first by VPN? I think that's just for websites...? On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 7/8/15 7:48 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: Wondering if anyone has a magic answer to DDOS mitigation beyond

Re: [AFMUG] Trouble upgrading from 13.4 B7 to 13.4 Release

2015-07-08 Thread Steve Utick
I don't know, this is the same machine that I've been using for the past two years updating things. I was on a support session with Cambium today, same machine I was using yesterday, same config and everything and it all of a sudden worked. Nothing changed... :-| But, at least that A/P is

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Darin Steffl
Find a way to shape bandwidth at your edge/core routers instead of at the tower? Powercode, Azotel, and possibly others will do this. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 7:15 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Is this only from LLNW? I swear I've seen it from other CDNs as well. I don't see any way

Re: [AFMUG] Flush mount wifi jack

2015-07-08 Thread Daniel White
Nothing really new. Ruckus and Meru have had them for a long time (these are the recent models) and I’m sure there are more out there: Ruckus: http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/access-points/zoneflex-indoor/zoneflex-h500 Meru:

[AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
This has been discussed in previous threads, but I just got off a call with a customer where I was able to identify what content was being distributed via LLNW and causing problems. Customer had bought a new Xbox and it was downloading game updates. He was complaining that the game update

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
You can push it all the way to the border(s) and have the same problem. You'll still need more upstream bandwidth. Because some CDNs think bandwidth is unlimited. We should start sending them a bill for 50% of our upstream costs. On 7/8/2015 7:21 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: Find a way to shape

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Stewart
ROFL .. don’t know whether to laugh right now or apologize :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear LOL, now that's funny! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies,

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah ... just think of whack a mole here.. you slow down CDN network X this may force the traffic (depending on who is involved here) to come from a different node or even a completely different CDN network .. not sure why LLNW are considered dicks here - their job is to deliver the content

Re: [AFMUG] I forgot to ask, do you need paper?

2015-07-08 Thread TJ Trout
I like how you custom made a seat for the 30 seconds you were up on the pole! On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:57 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Typically we are at Wispapalloza. Frequently sharing a gooth with Last Mile Gear/Cascade Networks. Jason Petrillo is our booth babe. Trying to get him into

Re: [AFMUG] 5GHZ WBMFG Omni

2015-07-08 Thread Bill Prince
We have exactly one Alpha Wireless 2.4 GHz dual slant omni. Looks like a very tall coke can. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 7/8/2015 11:10 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Alpha might be better but AFAIK only makes 2.5 and 3.5 GHz. My experience with KPP and L-Com which are apparently from the same

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Bill Prince
What about lowering the priority of stuff coming from LLNW? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 7/8/2015 5:15 PM, George Skorup wrote: Is this only from LLNW? I swear I've seen it from other CDNs as well. I don't see any way around this other than throwing bandwidth at it. And as you mention,

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I hope they keep the great BGP community support that N-Layer had. I'm pretty sure they had a community for redirecting your FTP requests through Mars. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz

[AFMUG] Flush mount wifi jack

2015-07-08 Thread Steve D
Anyone used this company's gear? This looks like a really neat little unit for motels and stuff. I can think of a few places where we installed a wifi node right beside the jack... could have used this for an even cleaner appearance. http://www.newworldtelecom.com/NW-IW100GX-N Question I'd

Re: [AFMUG] I forgot to ask, do you need paper?

2015-07-08 Thread chuck
That is the employee restroom! From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I forgot to ask, do you need paper? I like how you custom made a seat for the 30 seconds you were up on the pole! On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:57 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Ron Marosko
In the spirit of true net neutrality, I have a policy-map on our border router that strips almost all QoS bits regardless of source. Netflix like to send all their stuff with the AF41 DSCP bit set, for example, and that one gets terminated with extreme prejudice. I do try to at least consider the

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Man I miss TiNet … those were great years :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT NLayer, TINet or one of their other acquisitions? ;-) - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] I forgot to ask, do you need paper?

2015-07-08 Thread chuck
Typically we are at Wispapalloza. Frequently sharing a gooth with Last Mile Gear/Cascade Networks. Jason Petrillo is our booth babe. Trying to get him into a bikini this year!!! And of course, AnimalFarm is THE premier show for all wispdom. See www.amfug.com We don’t have next years

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-08 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
FYI, GTT is collapsing their network (nlayer AS4436 ) into Tinet ASN 3257. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
No-advertise. Best community evar. On 7/8/2015 7:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I hope they keep the great BGP community support that N-Layer had. I'm pretty sure they had a community for redirecting your FTP requests through Mars. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] 2.5Ghz Gear

2015-07-08 Thread Patrick Leary
Laugh. Patrick Leary, Telrad On Jul 8, 2015 8:24 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: ROFL .. don’t know whether to laugh right now or apologize :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 3:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] I forgot to ask, do you need paper?

2015-07-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Few restrooms have a view like that, I'm sure your employees love it! On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 8:01 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That is the employee restroom! *From:* TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] I forgot to ask,

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
Well thanks for being the guinea pig Bill. I have a sector with a couple P8 SMs. Awesome. I haven't started updating anything to 13.4 yet though. Sure will be fun getting the P9s on that AP to update since P7, P8 and P9 is a one-shot deal. On 7/8/2015 10:06 PM, Bill Prince wrote: We did

Re: [AFMUG] uap-ac big junk?

2015-07-08 Thread Mike Hammett
They ran at least a few hundred megabit through it. Also, it's WiFi, cut that 1750 in half. That's also likely including 300 or 450 of N in 2.4, so cut that out as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: TJ

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
+100brazillon On 7/8/2015 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: - 1000 Let me clarify. Customer has subscribed to a certain speed tier, let's say 5 Mbps. So LLNW consistently sends 10 Mbps of traffic to this customer, half of which gets dumped on the floor. Actually half of the customer's traffic

Re: [AFMUG] Is that a Siklu

2015-07-08 Thread Stefan Englhardt
You are kidding? This is a cheap Mikrotik SXT. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com Datum: 09.07.2015 06:53 (GMT+01:00) An: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Betreff: [AFMUG] Is that a Siklu

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