Nice breakdown and for the most part agree. When I was doing consulting work I
had customers who were Tier1, 2 and 3. And out of those customers I seen
different approaches to exactly what you outline. The biggest underestimated
costs involved are always in “cost of operating the network”.
We saw and reported the scanning status problem on 2.4.2. They will show
scanning all the while responding to a ping on the wan side.
Steve B.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re:
I changed one to long and the key exchange drops seem to have vanished.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 9:50:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
Yes, getting stuck in FreeRun is one of the issues. The other is
AutoSync selecting the on-board GPS at boot if it has a lock when the
radio is soft rebooted. There are more related issues. Sessions drop
when AutoSync changes sources which is supposed to be hit-less. And some
other weird
Yes, you get MIMO-A and improved automatic rate adapt. Compared to 12.x
anyway. 12.1 is really old, I'm surprised anyone has held out so long.
Most of the 12.x issues were resolved in the final 12.2.2 release. So if
I wanted to stay in the stone age, that's where I'd be. No offense. :)
I'm
What if the customer can't get online because of some virus or something on
their Windows machine, is that downtime?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:
This
This discussion is one of the things that worries me greatly with respect to
the FCC and the Open Internet rules.
What is uptime? It’s not like there is a simple definition. I can’t recall
the last complete outage on our system that took every customer down, yet at
any given time I know
Uptime calculations should be tied to your service objectives which would
answer your question :)
Great question – serveral different ways to answer it …
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 9:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re:
Because SSH clients put one line of text in an appropriate size for what it
is used for. You don't use an SSH client on a roof or tower.
It would be like saying, why do you need a keyboard or multiple screens?
Why do you need a PC? Just develop WISPmon from your cell phone.
Josh Luthman
99.9
From: Christopher Gray
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Uptime Calculation?
When figuring uptime, is a partial outage normally calculated differently than
a complete outage?
For example, an outage affecting 10% of customers for 1 hour out of 100
Why not just use an ssh client I fit is just ssh?
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Work timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
SSH commands for epmp signal are
show ap
show dashboard
show rssi [n]
Just in case someone better at making a app wants to beat me to it
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Well I'm unfamiliar with the tool in general, but though if you could run
and ssh client you could do it. There are several that allow you create
connection shortcuts and run a list of commands. It wouldn't be that much
different than a traditional app. As for the last part...I'm working on it!
I have it set to both. I thought the issue was if you set it to short only.
From: David Milholen
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 9:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
Been seeing alot of this with apple devices that have issues staying
Hi George,
I suppose by AutoSync bug you meant Sync not coming back to power port when the
config is Power Port+Free Run.
If yes, then we have fixed the issue in 13.4 Official Release. Please give it a
try.
Thanks,
Chitrang Srivastava
Cambium Networks
-Original Message-
From: Af
I suppose my goal is to provide meaningful information that can be compared
to other providers. It definitely seems uptime should represent total
service time / total expected time.
A further question... do providers here consider scheduled maintenance to
be downtime?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1660632.pdf
These are what we've been buying.
Brian
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On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
does anyone have a part number and vendor for these boots or something thats
compatible?
--
I would say you really, really need to take your 450 stuff to at least 13.2.
I didn't go beyond that because of the alignment tone screwup. Which I
think is fixed in 13.4, so I will start cautiously going there. But while I
don't remember the exact issues or sequence of events, I know 13.2
Not for this at the moment.
On Jul 13, 2015 6:54 PM, Work timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
Your making the android app??
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Because SSH clients put one line
This is set to 2437, not auto.
The complaining customer called today and said the issue is 99% fixed after I
changed the group key exchange from 5m to 60m, which unfortunately is as long
as RouterOS lets you set it. I believe this is the interval for rotating the
group ciphers, not the
Besttronics is not all bulk they specialize in custom rack builds and
wire management
they also provide any length you need from a few inches to 100s of feet
with what ever
termination connectors you want on the ends along with specified break
out lengths.
I have been using these guys since
Been seeing alot of this with apple devices that have issues staying
connected or connecting in general and changing the preamble setting to
long seems to fix
most issues
On 7/13/2015 9:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
This is set to 2437, not auto.
The complaining customer called today and said the
Adam, any chance you could email tessco with your account number and an
approximate time frame you ordered these? They can look up your history and
get a part number
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
At one time Redline sold the same Gemtek
does reuse work well?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes with the included GPS antenna.
-Ty
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
wrote:
Does the airfiber 5x have GPS sync or any method for frequency reuse?
Pretty sure Redline SU-OIA is the CPE which was equivalent to the
Cambium 320.
That's a discontinued product now, so it might be a dead end. I tried
searching the legacy list archives but it doesn't seem to work. Sorry
buddy.
On 7/13/2015 2:49 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Adam, any
I've actually posted the part number on this list. It's probably in the
archives from a long time ago.
They were ordered by my previous employer, and I'm not in a position to
find that account number anymore.
On 7/13/2015 2:49 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Adam, any chance you could
These are what we use.
http://www.connectzone.com/ltwrj-00bmma-sl7005.html
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Network Manager
800-858-2399 | Office
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Hey, thats more info than I started with... thanks!!
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
Pretty sure Redline SU-OIA is the CPE which was equivalent to the Cambium
320.
That's a discontinued product now, so it might be a dead end. I tried
searching the
It would be most accurate to track the availability of every service
individually and the uptime of each connection individually. If you're
trying to calculate an aggregate systemwide uptime, what you might do is
get a median uptime of a representative sample of customers.
On 7/13/2015 9:11
While this is an interesting Math problem to figure out, the answer is very
contextual, based on the perspective one is taking... This is what I call
trying to take a 3 dimensional issue and attempting to fit it into a two
dimensional equation.
Or how does that saying go.What is
So how much is 1gbps from Cogent going for in the data center now?
Pricing also market dependent sometimes .. but generally that pricing for
Cogent is what I see.. +/-
Both HE and Cogent (as Mike mentioned) have their challenges. Both are guilty
of running their ports quite “hot” at times – seen this on many occasions.
Often they have limited redundancy
We use a ticketing system and on our selves for when crap blows up and
takes an entire site down. We start the timer on the time stuff
broke and we have a 48hr window to bring it back to life or a credit
memo can be issued if customers request one.
We have to breathe a little to otherwise Chaos
Yes, it has GPS sync.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:57:53 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti airFiber-5X AF-5X
Does the airfiber
Mastic, lol. No really I haven't found them either.
-Ty
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:56 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
does anyone have a part number and vendor for these boots or something
thats compatible?
--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you
I’ve seen plenty of iOS devices throw fits whenever the wireless access point
is set to auto frequency selection. Some iPads/iPhones/etc. get left behind
when the channel switches.
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
I am guessing it depends who else is available at the DC, and how well
you negotiate with them...
HE will do full ports only, $350 to $450 for a 1Gig port, and $3200 for 10Gig
port
I believe Cogent is between $500 to $800 for 1Gig on a 10G port (don't hold me
to it...)
But I can
100 meg: $4, 1g: $0.80, 10G: $0.50
HE is cheaper, but in fewer facilities.
Note that both have had quality issues in general, though may be just great
from a particular location on their networks. Usually it's congested peering
and usually the fault of the other party not wanting to upgrade.
Cogent was much more than $800 for a gig port in Dayton.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
wrote:
I am guessing it depends who else is available at the
One comment on the Tier3 (or any Tier really) when you reference “cost of
excess un-used commit” .. this should be built-in to your costing formulas
as an access network. There is a cost to having multiple providers
(assuming multi homed) and ensuring excess capacity is always available
Dayton is an Offnet Market for Cogent, whatever that means. It's also the
only offnet market I can find on their map. They also don't show any service
locations in Dayton. It's probably all fed on demand from their Cleveland POP.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Does the airfiber 5x have GPS sync or any method for frequency reuse?
Does anyone have several links on same tower using same frequency?
How is it performing?
Running out of 5 ghz for backhaul and ptmp use. Planning on using
Canopy PTP450 to upgrade my BH20 and PTP230 links but figured I would
does anyone have a part number and vendor for these boots or something
thats compatible?
--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
At one time Redline sold the same Gemtek thingamajigger, but they sold
the gland as a separate replacement item. I found it on Tessco. I
don't know if that's still available, but when they were, they were $5/each.
On 7/13/2015 12:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
does anyone have a part
My magic orb of reuse says NO
but I could be wrong :)
On 07/13/2015 01:50 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
does reuse work well?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ty Featherling
tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes with the included GPS antenna.
-Ty
There's a longish span with an existing phone trunk on it---probably a
50 pair. The power is on the other side of the road for reasons that
nobody understands. I would like to insert a pole in the middle of the
existing spanI would put it in line with the existing poles in the
ROW of
Nice.
On 7/13/2015 3:44 PM, Charles Boening wrote:
These are what we use.
http://www.connectzone.com/ltwrj-00bmma-sl7005.html
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/Network Manager/
800-858-2399 | Office
charl...@calore.net mailto:charl...@calore.net
www.cot.net
I'd bet...definitely. It's the Airfiber chipset line...
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On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:50 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
does reuse work well?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes with the included
Works with AF5 and AF24 just fine, so I don't see why it would be any
different. I would synchronize them even if you're not trying to use the
same channel. Co-located adjacent channel interference is just as much
of a pain in the ass and sync takes care of that. I bet there's better
filtering
Hi Bill
Is 13.4 GA? Any issues other than FSK?
Thanks
Adam
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended
We did another couple
13.4 is released. Other than the P8 thing Bill mentioned (and I
confirmed on the bench), haven't seen any issues yet. I have a very
small number of APs and SMs update so far though.
On 7/13/2015 6:20 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
Hi Bill
Is 13.4 GA? Any issues other than FSK?
Thanks
Adam
Your making the android app??
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Because SSH clients put one line of text in an appropriate size for what it
is used for. You don't use an SSH client on a roof or tower.
It would be like
Doing my network tonight. Had been planning for 13.2.1. Just saw this on
13.4? Most of my network is on 12.1. Do I need to go to an interim release or
can I safely jump to 13.2.1 (or even 13.4).
Not sure I am willing to risk 13.4 tonight. Maybe wait a month.
Adam
-Original
Not an issue for us any more. No more P8s. Guess that's not a bad thing...
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/10/2015 4:23 PM, George Skorup wrote:
So.. I remember why I had this one P8 radio in the WTF pile. It's a
5700BH20. At some point, a long, long time ago, it decided to turn
itself
Yes with the included GPS antenna.
-Ty
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
Does the airfiber 5x have GPS sync or any method for frequency reuse?
Does anyone have several links on same tower using same frequency?
How is it performing?
Running out of 5
I'd bet...definitely. It's the Airfiber chipset line...
Anyone doing reuse with these?
On Jul 13, 2015, at 2:50 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
does reuse work well?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes with the
Found what I wanted http://www.occfiber.com/products/BX002KWLS9OP
Peter Kranz
http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Am I missing something with ecablemart, they seen to make cable assemblies, not
sell bulk cable.
Peter Kranz
http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com
From: Af
Here's the part numbers you're looking for.
LTWRJ-00BMMA-S7005
RJ-00BMMA-SL7005
Steve B.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 12:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] source for 320 sm boots
does
Probably shouldn't have any issues going straight to 13.4. But Cambium
will tell you it's untested and unsupported. Some issues to watch out
for: uncalibrated 450 APs and SMs (since you're coming from 12.1); 450
APs on 2.5MHz center frequencies, SMs may get 2.5 centers deselected in
the scan
You can generally go from one major release to the next without having
to go to the point releases in between.
So if you are on 12.1, or 12.2, or 12.3, etc. Then you should be able to
go to 13.x (e.g 13.1.2 or 13.2 or 13.4).
But try it on the bench first if you have any doubts.
bp
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