Re: [AFMUG] B11 copper v fiber

Be careful what you wish for. You can't butt together unpolished fibers, and you can't polish until you put the fiber into a ferrule. You'd have to have a mechanical splice built into the unit. On 10/24/2015 7:57 PM, George Skorup wrote: Someone should design an SFP module where you just

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting antenna from UBNT

Datasheet is for both M and AC versions, the AC version is clearly dual pol, 2x2 MIMO. But the antenna patterns are butt ugly. Also I don’t care how light the unit is, I wouldn’t trust that mount here with the winds we get. And the 3-part design with wings on the sides reminds me of the old

[AFMUG] Chicago Equinix

Due to problems (6+ weeks of delays thus far) with one of our vendors, we're looking to get our own space in Chicago, direct with Equinix. If anyone is looking for a place to stash a couple servers, routers, switches, etc. let me know. Not looking to do a ton of colo, just recover our costs for

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Bandwdith Omni

VGA cable??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 25, 2015 1:13 AM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Just saw this on L-Com website. > > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] B11 copper v fiber

I want a unicorn in every box I order. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jaime Fink" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] B11 copper v fiber

Remember, only a virgin can tame a unicorn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn#/media/File:DomenichinounicornPalFarnese.jpg From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 4:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B11 copper v fiber I want a unicorn in every box I order. -

[AFMUG] Interesting data chart on bandwidth usage

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Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Franklin system... Jaime Solorza On Oct 25, 2015 8:46 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" wrote: > I see the big telcos build a kind of shield above/around their > installations. Big poles connected with thick grounding cables on the edges. > > > Ursprüngliche Nachricht >

Re: [AFMUG] Bad day?

Is this really a thread from 5/13/2015? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 4:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bad day? There were a bunch of outages. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

http://www.copper.org/applications/electrical/pq/casestudy/orange_county_A6088.html Sincerely, Joshaven Potter MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Well, not necessarily. It is possible to turn grounding and shielding into a religion and lose track of what they are accomplishing. For example, the power company guy in up in the bucket doesn’t rely on grounding to protect him from high voltage, and neither do the birds sitting on the

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

I see the big telcos build a kind of shield above/around their installations. Big poles connected with thick grounding cables on the edges. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Ken Hohhof Datum: 25.10.2015 23:37 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Photos of SpaceX launches from launch complex 39 at Kennedy Space Center show 4 towers topped with white insulators topped topped with lightning rods grounded by catenary wires, that form a cage around the launch pads. For example:

Re: [AFMUG] Any interesting multi-gigabit backhauls at wispalooza..

AFAIK, the IP-20c still is the performance king. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Peter Kranz" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:01:41 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Any

Re: [AFMUG] Bad day?

On 5/13/2015 3:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Having a bad day? You could be the owner of that conduit. No it isn't that bad there is no cable in it just a pull string... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Any interesting multi-gigabit backhauls at wispalooza..

According to my research, yes. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any interesting multi-gigabit backhauls at wispalooza.. Mimosa B11 On 10/14/2015 4:01 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Bad day?

There were a bunch of outages. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Trey Scarborough" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 4:25:30 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bad day? On 5/13/2015 3:12

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

If what you've done isn't working, then it isn't enough, not that it's too much. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 5:04:32 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Gino, Try not grounding at all? On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:39 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I have no doubt it's the SS clamping that's blowing the fuse. If there was > no fuse, I bet the SS would continue clamping and start smoking if there's > enough current to supply it. I

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

The rubber mat under the equipment racks is interesting, I had never considered that. From: Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 8:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Bandwdith Omni

Looked at it on your phone, eh? I did that too... scroll down. I thought it looked pretty good until I saw that it's only 6dbi at 2.4ghz... On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > VGA cable??? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Bandwdith Omni

Huh that's a weird bug! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 25, 2015 10:15 AM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Looked at it on your phone, eh? I did that too... scroll down. > > I thought it looked pretty good

[AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

What has been found as a successful option for attaching to the connectorized 3.65 SMs? Paul, PDMNet

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

I’ve used this panel: https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=578935 $220 From: Paul McCall Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options What has been found as a successful option for attaching to

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium epmp on Ubiquiti sector

Depends what you mean by fitting... RF elements makes an adapter for the epmp so it will snap right into a Ubiquiti antenna and the connectors are the same. On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Does the epmp fit on Ubiquiti sector? Someone for

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Gino We used to loose a lot of equipment as well. Daniel White gave me some advice 10 years ago and we started immediately noticing a difference. The suggestions was good shielded cable with a ground strap every 75' minimum. Since then we have changed a lot but still lose very little. The main

Re: [AFMUG] more powerful 900 Dual Slant antenna for Cambium 450 series SMs ??

Seems like 12 dBi should be possible in 15 inches. But I guess it depends on other specs like sidelobes and F/B ratio. This (expensive) MTI single pol panel has very nice patterns and specs, and it’s 18 inches: http://www.mtiwe.com/?CategoryID=281=318 Personally I’d prefer 10 dBi and a

[AFMUG] Cambium epmp on Ubiquiti sector

Does the epmp fit on Ubiquiti sector? Someone for Chihuahua asking me Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Put surge suppressors within 3' of the radio on the tower as well. Motorola recommended that forever and more recently UBNT started recommending that. On 10/25/2015 12:13 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Yes On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

I still do not understand why 3.65 GHz = NLOS. We are using it very successfully for LOS. That does mean however that anyone who comes into this area expecting –110 noise floors will probably be disappointed. Things should be better however once 3550-3650 and PALs become available. Same as

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Speaking of fuses, I know sometimes we get overcurrent trips on CTMs and SyncInjectors and have to reset them. Very rare, but always during storms. It is possible this is saving radios, I can't say for sure. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Bandwdith Omni

Judging from the size of it, I'm guessing it's pretty much just a 5ghz omni standing on top of a 2.4ghz omni. On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I had one of the 5 GHz omnis hit by lightning that popped the top off, so > I got a look at the innards.

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

I have a couple of those if you need some more. Stainless steel type. On Sun, Oct 25, 2015, 12:06 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > We used to get hits on UV treatment plant with plc gear, switches, cameras > and radios next to it. I installed an air terminal five feet

Re: [AFMUG] more powerful 900 Dual Slant antenna for Cambium 450 series SMs ??

Integrated panel would be nice. Like Ken said before, 36dBm EIRP cap applies to both the AP and SMs. So more gain at the SM means less Tx power. 12dBi is a good compromise. On 10/25/2015 10:45 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: There have been talks about a 12dbi dual slant 18" panel. -Sean On

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Are you loosing Ethernet ports ? or are the radios burning up (scorch marks ?) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Gino Villarini"

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Shielded cable to the SS for sure... Have you looked at doing fiber/DC up the tower and then distribute it out that way? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

We used to get hits on UV treatment plant with plc gear, switches, cameras and radios next to it. I installed an air terminal five feet above tower on 1 1/2 inch emt secured to Tower top but isolated by thick rubber...then ran 6 gauge ground directly to 3/4 inch 10 ft rodtower has its own

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Try shielded jumpers between the patch panel and wbmfg ss. Make sure everything grounds to the same point so you're not creating a ground loop. -Sean On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Gino Villarini wrote: > So we are loosing radios left and right due to lightning! > >

[AFMUG] Grounding or isolating

I remember not having many issues with Classic Canopy units that were isolated from the tower metal... A proper discussion should be : isolation vs grounding?

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Yes. We use one from Citel, very happy with their products. Tushar > On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > > Tushar, when you say ground block you mean a surge suppressor? > >> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Tushar Patel wrote: >> We used

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Mostly radios On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Are you loosing Ethernet ports ? or are the radios burning up (scorch > marks ?) > > Regards. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Yes On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Josh Luthman wrote: > Shielded cable to the SS for sure... > > Have you looked at doing fiber/DC up the tower and then distribute it out > that way? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St >

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding or isolating

Yepwe use allot of isolation in our cabinets for SCADA applications...that's why you see two or three different grounding busses which are isolated from cabinet. Jaime Solorza On Oct 25, 2015 11:10 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > I remember not having many issues with

Re: [AFMUG] more powerful 900 Dual Slant antenna for Cambium 450 series SMs ??

220... 221. On 10/25/2015 12:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Seems like 12 dBi should be possible in 15 inches. But I guess it depends on other specs like sidelobes and F/B ratio. This (expensive) MTI single pol panel has very nice patterns and specs, and it’s 18 inches:

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

What radios, specifically Gino? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong? Gino We used to loose a lot of equipment as well. Daniel White gave me some

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

I have no doubt it's the SS clamping that's blowing the fuse. If there was no fuse, I bet the SS would continue clamping and start smoking if there's enough current to supply it. I don't know if it helps save things, but I'm leaning towards yes. Just getting all of the radios on the same DC

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Bandwdith Omni

I had one of the 5 GHz omnis hit by lightning that popped the top off, so I got a look at the innards. Surprisingly little in there for the size and price. It would be interesting to see inside the dual frequency model. It would also be interesting to see inside one of the Alpha Antennas

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

I've used the WB 25dbi dish with wimax SU's. I got 10db better than the 14.5 dbi integrated so it worked as advertised. Sorry I don't have a direct answer as far as the 450. What has been found as a successful option for attaching to the connectorized 3.65 SMs? Paul, PDMNet

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

Sean, You have the Compact wimax right? I'm curious how you'd rate that side by side with the PMP450 in 3.65. Cambium sales said the Compact would give you better NLOS, but where the 450 connected it would be faster. Would you say that was accurate? Thanks, Adam Nothing really. We

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

That was the other issue, all the antennas were expensive! -Sean On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’ve used this panel: > https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=578935 > > $220 > > > *From:* Paul McCall

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

We used to loose lot of radios too. We do following now and it seems to help (loosing less). At top on the tower: We put all AP on stand off (MTOW-p), then we have grounding block mounted on the stand off at same level as AP, then less then 2 feet of cable going from grounding block to AP. All

Re: [AFMUG] Dual Bandwdith Omni

To watch the signals dude Jaime Solorza On Oct 25, 2015 7:44 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > VGA cable??? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Oct 25, 2015 1:13 AM, "Rory Conaway"

Re: [AFMUG] more powerful 900 Dual Slant antenna for Cambium 450 series SMs ??

There have been talks about a 12dbi dual slant 18" panel. -Sean On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Paul McCall wrote: > Anything better in the pipeline for a 900 SM 450 series other than the 12 > dBi dual slant yagi from Cambium? > > Paul >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

Cambium was promising to make the pigtails longer, not sure when that will happen, and how long it will take to flush out old stock. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options Nothing

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

We have telrad lte on a few towers, and we did a side by side comparison with telrad and canopy. Cambium 450 3.65ghz can go thru a tree or two at close range (less than 1 mile). But it only modulates at 1x mimo-a Telrad lte is able to blast thru a thicket of trees no problem. We've been

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

What kind of antennas? Have you tried coax surge protector(s) like Polyphasers inline between antenna and radio? I only do this on omnis, but I’ve had several omnis blasted to smithereens while the radios survived. http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AL%2DLSXM%2DMA===0 Do you think the

Re: [AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

Tushar, when you say ground block you mean a surge suppressor? On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Tushar Patel wrote: > We used to loose lot of radios too. > > We do following now and it seems to help (loosing less). > > At top on the tower: > We put all AP on stand off (MTOW-p),

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

Nothing really. We tried a few and found either a bare SM or SM+dish was the best solution. Everything else was a PITA because the pig tails that come with the SM are too short, so you either need to do surgery and replace the cables or put the SM in an odd location/orientation to get it

[AFMUG] more powerful 900 Dual Slant antenna for Cambium 450 series SMs ??

Anything better in the pipeline for a 900 SM 450 series other than the 12 dBi dual slant yagi from Cambium? Paul

[AFMUG] Site Grounding - what we are doing wrong?

So we are loosing radios left and right due to lightning! Typical site setup: Radios on tower grounded to tower Shielded cable Shielded patch panel - grounded Regular cat5 jumpers Wbmfg SS - grounded Regular cat5 jumpers Poe device What's wrong?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

ITElite for slant panels are decent if you want to mount on tall poles. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > > What has been found as a successful option for attaching to the connectorized > 3.65 SMs? > > Paul, PDMNet

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium epmp on Ubiquiti sector

And they're cheap!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 25, 2015 2:12 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Depends what you mean by fitting... RF elements makes an adapter for the > epmp so it will snap right into

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium epmp on Ubiquiti sector

If you plan on back-to-back frequency reuse (with sync), be sure to compare F/B ratios on sectors. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium epmp on Ubiquiti sector And they're cheap!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium epmp on Ubiquiti sector

I will pass info on. Thx Jaime Solorza On Oct 25, 2015 1:36 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" wrote: > The RF-Element CC Sectors are even cheaper. Look like the Cambium ePMP > Sectors but have wider angles/lower gain. > > Mounted one to cover 100 degrees. I guess with 3 of them a cheap

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

It doesn’t mean “NLOS” inherently. It’s all about the gear that enables NLOS, as Sean just mentioned. Patrick Leary, Telrad 727-501-3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 1:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65

Re: [AFMUG] more powerful 900 Dual Slant antenna for Cambium 450 series SMs ??

So there Jaime Solorza On Oct 25, 2015 1:40 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Could do a stinger but not gonna. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2015 11:27 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] more powerful

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium epmp on Ubiquiti sector

The RF-Element CC Sectors are even cheaper. Look like the Cambium ePMP Sectors but have wider angles/lower gain. Mounted one to cover 100 degrees. I guess with 3 of them a cheap 360 Degree coverage for mid range can be done. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] more powerful 900 Dual Slant antenna for Cambium 450 series SMs ??

Could do a stinger but not gonna. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 11:27 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] more powerful 900 Dual Slant antenna for Cambium 450 series SMs ?? I guess Chuck is busy in Vegas sipping mimosas at the fiber show..not a peep from him Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450SM 3.65 connectorized antenna options

Yeah, the first wave was the people expecting Ubiquiti 3.65 GHz to work miracles through trees. All that did was create interference and force the WiMAX and LTE people to use the upper part of the band where the UBNT stuff was not approved to operate. At least AFAIK Redline never pitched its