Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

You get what you can from your upstreams and CGNAT all the things. Then you run IPv6 in parallel. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > Hypothetically speaking, if a new WISP wanted their own blocks of IPV4 space > what is the best route? > > Kurt

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

Reasonable projections (IMO) I have seen are $30 to $40 per IP. I have seen some projections talking $100-$200 per IP. This is a one time fee though, not including RIR transfer and annual fee (much smaller than the cost of the block, based on total allocations to you). On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

It's something that every one of you uses every day and none of your businesses would be around without it.. Most of you are younger than it. Consider when you could get a /16 without aquestion asked. Actually I just remembered another customer that has one too. He uses about a /24 of his.

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

Hypothetically speaking, if a new WISP wanted their own blocks of IPV4 space what is the best route? Kurt Fankhauser wrote: $13 per IP on a /24 wow. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Travis Johnson > wrote: He created a toaster?? LOL

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

$13 per IP on a /24 wow. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > He created a toaster?? LOL > > https://postscapes.com/internet-of-things-history/ > > Travis > > > On 8/8/2016 8:53 PM, Robert wrote: > > He can afford to wait a long time He was the

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

He created a toaster?? LOL https://postscapes.com/internet-of-things-history/ Travis On 8/8/2016 8:53 PM, Robert wrote: He can afford to wait a long time He was the developer of the first of one of the major devices on the internet. On 8/8/16 5:24 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: As in a /16

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

What is being suggested is considered to be common sense... however if one is to look at technology obsolesce for a pattern, the appropriate suggestion would be that in the short run, ipv4 increases in value, until ipv6 gains momentum (keeping in mind that the momentum is being driven by

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

There should be plenty of IPv4 to go around with increased adoption of IPv6 though... On Monday, August 8, 2016, Josh Reynolds wrote: > You're high. We're still using Fortran and Cobol, because you don't fuck > with mission critical stuff. > > Decades from now, we'll still

[AFMUG] Force 180 in action

One of 10 Force 180s at detention center... Some are nlos hidden inside SHU units where more serious detainees are kept. They link with epmp AP with 120 degree sector. One of guards took picture as we can't take cellular phones into compound

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

+1 These addresses are just going to become more and more valuable to some. And the top of the $$ pile will pay that kind of $$ without a blink, just like some domain names have sold for millions... On 8/8/16 7:58 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: You're high. We're still using Fortran and Cobol,

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

You're high. We're still using Fortran and Cobol, because you don't fuck with mission critical stuff. Decades from now, we'll still be relying on ipv4 at the highest levels of banking, government, and corporate operations. On Aug 8, 2016 9:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

per IP... On 8/8/16 5:31 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: $300 to $500K? On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Robert > wrote: A friend of mine has an unused Class B... But he's going to wait for $300-500 pricing... LOL... On 8/8/16

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

He can afford to wait a long time He was the developer of the first of one of the major devices on the internet. On 8/8/16 5:24 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: As in a /16 ? he’ll be waiting a long time in my opinion …. (could be dead wrong there) I monitor prices every so often to “check

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

I posted a link to the ARIN list of transfer agents not that long ago on TBW. I'd get it for you now, but I'm too lazy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini"

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

I'm assuming per IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 7:31:29 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

I think this is a fleeting market. Even dolts like my will be moving to IP6 within a year to some degree. Its like buying up ice plows and ice box factories when refrigerators were invented On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > How much for virgin never used IPs

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

How much for virgin never used IPs that a spammer or hacker can buy and trash? -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 8:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? When we purchased, per IP on a /20 was at $8. Per IP on a /24 was around

Re: [AFMUG] purchase offer scam

Yep... My gmail thinks the same thing On Aug 8, 2016 6:22 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Gmail thinks -your- email is a scam! > > Nice... > > Now's the time to ask for something totally unreasonable, like 300 angora > goats and an olympic sized swimming pool filled with red

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

When we purchased, per IP on a /20 was at $8. Per IP on a /24 was around $9 or $9.50. It's currently at $13 per IP on a /24. This was roughly 4 months ago. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > As in a /16 ? he’ll be waiting a long time in my opinion ….

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

$300 to $500K? On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Robert wrote: > A friend of mine has an unused Class B... But he's going to wait for > $300-500 pricing... LOL... > > On 8/8/16 3:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > > besides ip auctions.com Anyone knows of of ip address

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

I'll give him $300 for a class B. Eric Rogers www.pdsconnect.me (317) 831-3000 x200 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 7:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? A friend of mine has an unused Class B...

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

As in a /16 ? he’ll be waiting a long time in my opinion …. (could be dead wrong there) I monitor prices every so often to “check in” and see what the market is doing … seen prices drop in the past few months, not sure why – guessing that it’s because the market is slowing down and/or

Re: [AFMUG] purchase offer scam

Gmail thinks -your- email is a scam! Nice... Now's the time to ask for something totally unreasonable, like 300 angora goats and an olympic sized swimming pool filled with red wine. See what they say. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Dev wrote: > I got an email

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

Ipaddressbroker.net Ipv4marketgroup.com Prefixbroker.net V4escrow.net Iptrading.com There’s tonnes of them unless I’m misunderstanding your question ;) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: August 8, 2016 6:30 PM To: Animal Farm

[AFMUG] purchase offer scam

I got an email “offering to buy my WISP” from "YMM Group LLC”, a company with basically no discernible history and a return email address to yandex.com (a large Russian provider) and a return phone number of 203-405-9858 for someone purporting to be JC Heath, and claiming to represent an

Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

A friend of mine has an unused Class B... But he's going to wait for $300-500 pricing... LOL... On 8/8/16 3:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: besides ip auctions.com Anyone knows of of ip address sources for buying?

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

Joe's network is the case study Cambium has put out. Do you have ones without the receive antenna in the more suburban parts of your network? Okay without or does it need it? I'm looking to add some sectors to that Oswego tower that we shared and contemplating the base setup or going all out.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

We have maybe about 8 EPMP 2000 radios deployed. I think only three have the beam steer antenna on them. All new deployments that would have been 1000 are now 2000 because of the filtering and the ability to bolt on the beam steer antenna if needed later. Between elevation and azimuth, I

[AFMUG] IPv4 for sale?

besides ip auctions.com Anyone knows of of ip address sources for buying?

Re: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?

Good stuff. I changed the OSPF cost at both ends like suggested, and the path re-routed. I did not have to do anything to the LDP (Running RouterOS v6.32.4). Huge help. Is there any way to change costs on dynamic OSPF interfaces, or do they always need to be fully manually configured to change

Re: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?

I completely agree - bouncing LDP is not the solution. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Have no idea about Microtik but in other network systems there are many > options > > > > -where or not your IGP (OSPF in this case) has the ability to influence >

Re: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?

Have no idea about Microtik but in other network systems there are many options -where or not your IGP (OSPF in this case) has the ability to influence your LSP paths -flags/settings to enable recalculation of best route for an LSP to choose, how often if at all etc RSVP vs LDP (or even

Re: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?

What Adam said. Might need to disable/reenable LDP in order for the new path to "take effect." We keep having an issue where we'll make administrative changes to OSPF (i.e. link cost) and LDP won't reflect the change (i.e. update the LSP) until we bounce LDP. Haven't done much troubleshooting so I

Re: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?

Raise the cost of path A on both ends of the hop. -- Original Message -- From: "Christopher Gray" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/8/2016 4:43:30 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik? I'm running basic MPLS over OSPF in a section of my network. I

[AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?

I'm running basic MPLS over OSPF in a section of my network. I just setup a VPLS that has two path options: A: 1 hop; limited to 20 Mbps B: 2 hops; limited to 100 Mbps The system favors A (I believe since it is only 1 hop, but it is also lower cost in OSPF). Is there an easy way to send a VPLS

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

Baltic Networks' site says they're in stocksome brave soul must have bought one by now. -- Original Message -- From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 8/8/2016 3:44:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna has

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

Worst case you deploy the ePMP 2000 radio on the new sector and then you add the receive beamforming antenna when you're ready to take a drink. The better antenna and radio is ~$100 more than the existing setup. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

Re: [AFMUG] GoPro

Still having a good day... :) - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:11 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock Well did anyone take my advice and buy Fitbit stock a month ago? You could have made 8% just today...

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

has anyone actually deployed these? we ended up opting to not go with them for this round of EPMP deployments because it sounds too much like unicorns farting butterflies On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The 90*? It's been posted a bunch of

Re: [AFMUG] Console server with cellular connectivity for OOB management

Just an update for those who care: We ended up going with a used Cradlepoint 750B w/ Verizon LTE model (eBay) and an AirConsole from Get-Console [1]. [1] https://www.get-console.com/shop/en/device-servers/118-airconsole-ts-8n-port.html On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World

It was related to the economic impact of broadband via Travis's comment. This report is also skewed if you really consider the source and peaks. Many 1Gbps connections are shadowing the hordes of DSL out there. This has been discussed on several sites in depth now, and the more accurate data set

Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World

I understandbut that doesn't have any impact on average speedtest results for the country. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/8/2016 1:31:05 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only

Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World

On 8/8/16 10:31, Josh Reynolds wrote: Actually in my personal experience, access to "high speed" broadband has created jobs in our area. It has allowed multiple corporate branch offices and factories to come in. Internet of 250Mbps or greater was a requirement for development of the properties.

Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World

Actually in my personal experience, access to "high speed" broadband has created jobs in our area. It has allowed multiple corporate branch offices and factories to come in. Internet of 250Mbps or greater was a requirement for development of the properties. It's staggering the amount of large

Re: [AFMUG] Rio Olympics Traffic

This week for back to school? Our back to school traffic doesn’t start for a couple of weeks normally … We have only seen minor traffic changes due to Olympics … so far :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright Sent: August 8, 2016 1:22 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Rio Olympics Traffic

Whatever boost in traffic we see due to Olympics is probably offset by all the kids going back to school this week. Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 4:22 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World

On 8/7/16 19:35, Travis Johnson wrote: EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people. It's all marketing BS that the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

The 90*? It's been posted a bunch of times. There's really no other possibility for that product anyway - 120 can't (won't?) do frequency reuse. I'm not 100% on the number of beams. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 8,

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

That's the same spec sheet I was just looking at. No gain or beamwidth on there. Did you hear your info verbally perhaps? -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 8/8/2016 12:23:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

90* overall and I think 7x 13* individual? Dimensions are here http://www.doubleradius.com/site/stores/cambium/Cambium-ePMP-2000-Smart-Antenna-datasheet.pdf Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Adam

[AFMUG] ePMP beam forming antenna

I was noticing the spec sheet for the new ePMP 2000 beam forming antenna does not mention gain, nor does it mention beamwidth. What's the deal with that? Wind load is also not on the spec sheet, nor the polar plot of radiation pattern, but nominal gain and beamwidth would be a good place to

Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World

Reminds me of my grandma when she was diagnosed with lung cancer. She refused to wait for anything. She habitually cut in lines and bitched about being on hold. "I don't have much time left, I can't be bothered to wait in lines". What really made her mad was when her Apple password had to

Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World

I you have to wait more than 5 seconds on a download, you obviously need the next higher speed package. From: David Milholen Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 6:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World BOOYAAA! +1 on

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

Yeah! https://www.facebook.com/lukemillionmusic/videos/1174347985939829/ On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I'm watching it right now with my wife. It's fantastic so far. As a kid > from 81, it seems very homey to me :) Oh, and the soundtrack is

Re: [AFMUG] US Internet Speeds Improve But The Country Ranks Only 20thIn The World

BOOYAAA! +1 on that On 8/7/2016 9:35 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: EXACTLY. Everyone freaks out when Google fiber comes to their town... I want to know what people are doing with a 1Gbps fiber connection that is going to save the world. Or create new jobs. Or make life easier for people.