Re: [AFMUG] cheap patch cables

2017-11-07 Thread Jeremy
We really like the STP patch cables from directcable4less.com. We get unshielded patch cables from Skywalker. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:36 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I use these in 1, 2 and 3 foot: https://www.monoprice.com/prod > uct?p_id=2125 Haven't had any bad

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Rory Conaway
Municipal wireless fails because they could not profitably fund all the talent and training it takes to not only start one up but to actually operate one. I haven't seen a business plan that is profitable within 2 years of startup and that's with people willing to work 60-80 hour weeks for

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
I did not know that tone contained modulated data. I just thought it was a noise you wouldn't ignore. That's a fun fact to have. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 11/7/2017 4:39:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question Monitor the line for

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook Ireland IP flooding traffic

2017-11-07 Thread Brett A Mansfield
This customer has been doing this prior to implementing the new IPs. The new subnet is for NJ, so I’ve submitted tickets to get that adjusted. Hopefully that happens soon. For some reason nobody on my new subnet can load ksl.com either. That seems to be the only url to have this issue so far.

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook Ireland IP flooding traffic

2017-11-07 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Also Brett, you might want to keep in mind geo-location for your IPv4 space. If the subnet you are using is still showing on some geo services as another state or country weird things can happen with CDN routing etc. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook Ireland IP flooding traffic

2017-11-07 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Thanks Mike. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Upload or download? Download, I assume? > > Contact their NOC, contact info here: https://peeringdb.com/net/979 > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook Ireland IP flooding traffic

2017-11-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Upload or download? Download, I assume? Contact their NOC, contact info here: https://peeringdb.com/net/979 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Brett A Mansfield"

[AFMUG] Facebook Ireland IP flooding traffic

2017-11-07 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I have a customer that is using 3x the bandwidth all my remaining customers on the same leg of the network use. The traffic is almost all from the same IP address. 31.13.70.51 I was thinking a torrent VPN service, but this shows as a Facebook IP in the RIPE region and is registered as a

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread chuck
Some ATAs don’t put out 48 volts. That could be a thing. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 3:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question Is there any chance it could be a polarity problem? If somewhere between the ATA and the PBX the 2 wires are

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/7/17 10:37 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Most water systems are municipal.  A handful of electric companies are municipal.  In principal there's no reason a municipal internet service couldn't succeed. I think municipal broadband hasn't often worked out because people involved underestimate

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread Nate Burke
Is there any chance it could be a polarity problem? If somewhere between the ATA and the PBX the 2 wires are reversed? On 11/7/2017 3:42 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I seem to remember it comes in between the first and second ring. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:39 PM

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
I seem to remember it comes in between the first and second ring. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:39 PM wrote: > Monitor the line for the data burst. It is the exact same modulation > method > as the emergency alert system you hear squawking on the TV before the beep > and

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP CnMaestro URL via Option 43

2017-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
Option 43 is only to provide a configuration server. -- Original Message -- From: "Gino A. Villarini" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 11/7/2017 4:35:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP CnMaestro URL via Option 43 What other options are available for option43?

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread chuck
Monitor the line for the data burst. It is the exact same modulation method as the emergency alert system you hear squawking on the TV before the beep and thunderstorm warning. I think it comes before the first ring or right after the first ring. Some of the original display units rectified

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP CnMaestro URL via Option 43

2017-11-07 Thread George Skorup
Of course you do have to update the SMs to 15.1+ first. On 11/7/2017 3:37 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 450 might be the only system that really nailed that. -- Original Message -- From: "George Skorup" > To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP CnMaestro URL via Option 43

2017-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
450 might be the only system that really nailed that. -- Original Message -- From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 11/7/2017 4:36:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP CnMaestro URL via Option 43 This is kinda moot to me since ePMP can't do ICC like Canopy.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP CnMaestro URL via Option 43

2017-11-07 Thread George Skorup
This is kinda moot to me since ePMP can't do ICC like Canopy. So we have to pre-config ePMP SMs anyway (so that our WPA key matches for registration), so we might as well set the cnMaestro URL while we're at it. Maybe it's useful in case you want to change the URL or something I guess. The

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP CnMaestro URL via Option 43

2017-11-07 Thread Gino A. Villarini
What other options are available for option43? From: Af > on behalf of Adam Moffett > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Tuesday, November 7,

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
That sounds like the right track. The data is sent via some simple modulation coding either before the first ring or during the first ring. I could imagine some scenario where the ATA sends it before the PBX is listeningor some crap like that. -- Original Message -- From:

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
I think he means incoming. Maybe try a different ATA. I'm positive I had one or two that failed in some way that they wouldn't the send the caller ID data anymore. Those were Motorola.not sure it ever happened to us on a Cisco. -- Original Message -- From:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP CnMaestro URL via Option 43

2017-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
It's in the User Guide. You can use option 43, or if you set a domain via option 15 (the "Domain" field in Mikrotik DHCP) then it tries "cnmaestro.domain" My problem turned out to be that if you've already set a URL for CnMaestro then it won't use the DHCP provided option. But in theory, if

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread Steve Jones
we had to adjust a wait time or something like that in the fortivoice systems when this happens On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:16 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > The outbound CID should be set in the PBX, not the ATA. > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread Nate Burke
It's the inbound caller ID (the customer is receiving a call), not the Outbound Caller ID. On 11/7/2017 3:16 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: The outbound CID should be set in the PBX, not the ATA. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP CnMaestro URL via Option 43

2017-11-07 Thread Josh Luthman
OMG this is amazing, I didn't know option 43 was a possibility! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:02 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > Yes, working fine for us: > /ip

Re: [AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread can...@believewireless.net
The outbound CID should be set in the PBX, not the ATA. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > At a customer, I just hooked up a Cisco SPA122 into an Ancient Lucent PBX > system. The customer says that caller ID is not coming through, but it > used to work with

[AFMUG] ATA CallerID question

2017-11-07 Thread Nate Burke
At a customer, I just hooked up a Cisco SPA122 into an Ancient Lucent PBX system. The customer says that caller ID is not coming through, but it used to work with his old AT Lines, and it appears to be hitting the ATA Properly. Is there a setting on the ATA that needs to be set that older

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
I understand the frustration of boot strapping your business, sacrifice and hard work.. then some one gets a grant , starts a business and undercuts you. Learned long ago , life is not fair...I do the best I can and move on.. life is too short. On Nov 7, 2017 12:43 PM, "Lewis Bergman"

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
Hippie as in commune? I just tend to view those type of endeavors as private sector space, not to start a whole flame thing. There are arguments to made on both sides. I just default to government doing less not more. There are plenty of small corporate water departments and electrical providers.

Re: [AFMUG] cheap patch cables

2017-11-07 Thread George Skorup
I use these in 1, 2 and 3 foot: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=2125 Haven't had any bad ones in >1k. The boots aren't too stiff in the cold unlike some others I've used in the past. On 11/7/2017 11:41 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Monoprice is somewhat cheaper. Lewis Bergman wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] android gps app

2017-11-07 Thread Bill Prince
I've been using GPS Essentials. The Satellites feature shows visible/tracking satellites on a compass grid. As Chuck says, you need to just evaluate visible sky. Metal & concrete be bad. Blue sky (cyan actually) be good. bp On 11/7/2017 9:37 AM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] android gps app

2017-11-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
GPS Status works very well for us. On Nov 7, 2017 10:37 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Anybody have a decent app for android to verify GPS visibility for > syncpipe placement? have some contractors hanging gear this weekend and > need them to verify where theyre putting

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
Interesting you used communist with all the Russian happenings. Hippie would have been more apropos! Lol On Nov 7, 2017 10:20 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Not intentionally. I just copied and pasted the blurb from the vendor in > the email. The RFP seems real. Ill

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Bill Prince
Palo Alto did a fiber ring that they lease out to vendors of all stripes.They didn't try to do any WiFi or the like; but they did create an environment for any and all to get onboard. It's a bit pricey, but you avoid digging up streets (and all the right of way issues) to install your private

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
Same thing as I'm saying, only different. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 11/7/2017 1:44:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network In theory So far they don’t have a good track record. I think it is due to electrons and water molecules not need

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread chuck
In theory So far they don’t have a good track record. I think it is due to electrons and water molecules not need individual routing. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 11:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network Most water systems are municipal. A

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
Most water systems are municipal. A handful of electric companies are municipal. In principal there's no reason a municipal internet service couldn't succeed. I think municipal broadband hasn't often worked out because people involved underestimate how difficult and/or expensive it's going

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Dave
Yea sure why not throw some FREE money at some non-profit network that will Cost NOTHING to work. On 11/07/2017 11:20 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Not intentionally. I just copied and pasted the blurb from the vendor in the email. The RFP seems real. Ill conceived, intended, and with poor

Re: [AFMUG] android gps app

2017-11-07 Thread chuck
More sky is better. Not sure there is any other thing to worry about. Obviously you don’t want the sky blocked by anything conductive. You don’t want it blocked by anything, but conductive materials are the worst. You don’t want the antenna to be close to tower legs or anything else. The

Re: [AFMUG] cheap patch cables

2017-11-07 Thread Jay Weekley
Monoprice is somewhat cheaper. Lewis Bergman wrote: Amazon, but I'll have to look at those others. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017, 11:37 AM Jay Weekley > wrote: Monoprice.com or Showmecables.com. I use Showmecables because they

Re: [AFMUG] cheap patch cables

2017-11-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
Amazon, but I'll have to look at those others. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017, 11:37 AM Jay Weekley wrote: > Monoprice.com or Showmecables.com. I use Showmecables because they have > historically had more length selections. > > Steve Jones wrote: > > where are people getting

Re: [AFMUG] cheap patch cables

2017-11-07 Thread Jay Weekley
Monoprice.com or Showmecables.com. I use Showmecables because they have historically had more length selections. Steve Jones wrote: where are people getting decent patch cables for enclosures at in bulk ad good prices these days?

[AFMUG] android gps app

2017-11-07 Thread Steve Jones
Anybody have a decent app for android to verify GPS visibility for syncpipe placement? have some contractors hanging gear this weekend and need them to verify where theyre putting it without having to login to the gear

[AFMUG] cheap patch cables

2017-11-07 Thread Steve Jones
where are people getting decent patch cables for enclosures at in bulk ad good prices these days?

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
Not intentionally. I just copied and pasted the blurb from the vendor in the email. The RFP seems real. Ill conceived, intended, and with poor hindsight to other results perhaps but real all the same. I am not sure what else to expect from the communist state of California though. On Tue, Nov 7,

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread chuck
fake news? From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network Yea, I just posted what some vendor spammed me with. I noticed the RFP said CA. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:53 AM Mike Hammett wrote: California, not

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yea, I just posted what some vendor spammed me with. I noticed the RFP said CA. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:53 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > California, not Virginia. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

[AFMUG] Mikrotik USB cell modems

2017-11-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
Does anyone have an idea of a known working LTE model? I have reviewed the peripherals page on the MT wiki and I think I am more confused now than I was before. I found this IoT service from Hologram that

Re: [AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Mike Hammett
California, not Virginia. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 10:47:24 AM

[AFMUG] Muni Network

2017-11-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
RFP- Richmond, Virginia Broadband Accessibility Project The Richmond Information Technology Department will acquire a community Broadband Network. The purpose of the project is to create a high-speed fiber and wireless mesh network that will provide no-cost broadband to all 8,400 households, 817