I was told upgrades had to be made to even offer us 1g
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
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From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Date: Sun, Feb 1, 2015 8:40 PM
Depending on where you're at, 10G isn't much more than 1G
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From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 9:31:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
I was told upgrades had to be made to even offer us 1g
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply message -
From: Mike Hammett af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
yes, you are indeed spot on sir. And you know, in this area, lots of houses
actually put up towers 30-40 years ago for TV.
- Original Message -
From: cstann...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:22 PM
Subject: Re
Stanners
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Eh? When you are in a highly-treed area, you need to do towers or be quick to
send customers to a company that does. There's no other easy way to get NLOS.
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:53 PM, CBB
i think we're probably mpls but it is fiber coming in...
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Usually anything gig or less is using MPLS or CE. 10G is using waves. The
former is more
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From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 9:47:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
i think we're probably mpls but it is fiber coming in...
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, February
AWS-3.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:13:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
I saw some new blurb about $45B worth
I would think ours would be around $500 to $600 monthly
On 1/30/2015 9:52 AM, Jeremy wrote:
How many WISPs out there offer 25x3? What do you charge for it? Are
there bandwidth limits or is it unlimited? I'm trying to understand
how we could reliably provide this service without putting 5-10
to Atlanta. I feel like I got my Burger King crown
from that!!
blockquote
- Original Message -
From: David Milholen
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
We are doing 3x1, 5x5 and 10x10 anything above this turns into a custom plan.
I
me thinks if the FCC gave me 100 mhz from, oh, i don't know, 600 to 700 mhz, i
could offer 25/3. Easily.
Give me what I want FCC!
- Original Message -
From: Jeremy
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
How many WISPs out
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
The customers we have on 25Mbps barely use it to its full extent. Streaming
services are only using about 5Mbps of it. When they're browsing the web they
use anywhere from 10-20 but its seldom and its just bursting. I wouldn't try
25Mbps on UBNT sectors but there's
david, with your rolling pmp450, what plans are you offering now?
(i guess i could hit your website)
- Original Message -
From: David Milholen
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
I hope everyone here is responding
.
- Original Message -
*From:* cstann...@gmail.com mailto:cstann...@gmail.com
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:22 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
You can offer it right now in 2.4, 3.65 or 5.8, the customers just
need
...@afmug.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 18:46:59
To: af@afmug.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Ah.
So TV is important enough to put up a tower, but internet is not. Is
that the story?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 1/31/2015 10:43 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
yes, you are indeed
!
- Original Message -
From: cstann...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
That's a quite high percentage of failures. Why? Trees and those customers
didn't want to pay you to put up a residential tower
what if you setup a roku in a house on a static ip and put a mikrotik in front
of it - then controled its usage via a queue?
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
The Net Neutrality
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 18:17:46
To: af@afmug.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
me thinks if the FCC gave me 100 mhz from, oh, i don't know, 600 to 700 mhz, i
could offer 25/3. Easily.
Give me what I want FCC!
- Original Message -
From: Jeremy
To: af
yes, you are indeed spot on sir. And you know, in this area, lots of houses
actually put up towers 30-40 years ago for TV.
- Original Message -
From: cstann...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
You can
-To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
and this is REALLY annoying. Two water tanks, very close. i think 3 miles
apart.
green dots = installation successes
yellow dots = FAILURES
- Original Message -
From: cstann...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January
: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
I think if you're in a house full of people - mom, dad, 2 kids, if they're all
streaming or using the web (more than one stream, 2 or 3 streams), yes, you'd
need 25 meg.
- Original Message -
From: Andy Trimmell
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:56
The times they are a changin..
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
..
Govt should buy people in high cost areas TV towers from the USF fund. Right
off the bat that cuts how fast they need their Internet to be, because let’s
...@gmail.com
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:50 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
That's a quite high percentage of failures. Why? Trees and those customers
didn't want to pay you to put up a residential tower?
--
*From: *CBB - Jay Fuller par
)
- Original Message -
*From:* David Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 11:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
I hope everyone here is responding to the call to action so we can
be heard I am so sick
makes you wonder!!! lol
- Original Message -
From: Bill Prince
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Ah.
So TV is important enough to put up a tower, but internet is not. Is that
the story?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot
: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Govt should buy people in high cost areas TV towers from the USF fund. Right
off the bat that cuts how fast they need their Internet to be, because let’s
face it, if you have free OTA TV and a DVR, something is seriously wrong with
you if you still NEED 25 Mbps of Internet video
Stanners
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Eh? When you are in a highly-treed area, you need to do towers or be quick to
send customers to a company that does. There's no other easy way to get NLOS.
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:53 PM
like former paging spectrum?
- Original Message -
From: David Milholen
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Jay,
Keep an eye out on the upper end of 900Mhz for changes and possibilities to
license it for broadband
...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
A number of our customers in trees are willing to spend a few hundred to put up
a 30-40ft tower to get above the trees, but those who need a 68ft tower are
rarely interested in paying a few $K
I saw some new blurb about $45B worth of spectrum just being sold. ATT
got around $18B worth, another $13B to someone else.
Anyone know what spectrum they were talking about?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 1/31/2015 11:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Oh, and I think the FCC actually wants
*Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:50 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
That's a quite high percentage of failures. Why? Trees and those
customers didn't want to pay you to put up a residential tower?
*From
yes, we just completed 1gig to Atlanta. I feel like I got my Burger King crown
from that!!
- Original Message -
From: David Milholen
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
We are doing 3x1, 5x5 and 10x10 anything above
...@afmug.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 19:52:42
To: af@afmug.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
i disagree. we're over 600 customers now. very few have towers. but we have
a lot of rejections too due to weak signals. talk to other wisp companies at
wispa - the solution is more
We are seeing that now. The new mantra is stream, baby, stream.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 11:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Remember too that most video streaming services follow Parkinson’s Law
Are you talking about above 928MHz?
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Jay,
Keep an eye out on the upper end of 900Mhz for changes and possibilities to
license
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
makes you wonder!!! lol
- Original Message -
From: Bill Prince
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Ah.
So TV
AWS3 1.9 and 2.1 ghz
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Jan 31, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
I saw some new blurb about $45B worth of spectrum just being sold. ATT got
around $18B worth, another $13B to someone else.
Anyone know what spectrum they were
all of this over
dinner next week :)
- Original Message -
From: cstann...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
So you disagree when your own high number of rejections show you should be
doing it?
The advantage
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
I hope everyone here is responding to the call to action so we can be heard I
am so sick of getting pushed around by someone sitting in a cushy office not
knowing exactly what those rule sets are going
, stream.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 11:49 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Remember too that most video streaming services follow Parkinson’s Law
... they expand to fill the bandwidth available. Look
On 1/31/15 15:28, Glen Waldrop wrote:
Those that put up the towers for TV are used to having to work for
something. A huge number of the first time home owners now expect people
to do everything for free to get them as a customer.
Oh definitely. They're doing you a favor by letting you
feel like I got my Burger
King crown from that!!
- Original Message -
*From:* David Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:36 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
We are doing 3x1, 5x5 and 10x10
, DC 20554.
From: Glen Waldrop
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 5:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Well, the way I figure it three bastards voted this with a couple of million
getting pissed and the general masses going, OMG!! About time! We should have
bajillionMBPS cat
: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Do you share your burst and sustained rates with the customer? Will you share
them here? Do you offer a 25Mbps burst Paul? Your website is down.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:
Andy, but is that a SUSTAINED 25/5? Can a customer hit
: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Andy, but is that a SUSTAINED 25/5? Can a customer hit it for 3 solid hours
that way (and actually get the bandwidth) and you are OK with it? In my book,
you cant assume someone doing that is going to hit their 300gbit cap
necessarily, but they can sure mess with you other
.
http://floridabroadband.com/service-plans
Paul
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Do you share your burst and sustained rates with the customer? Will you share
them here? Do you offer
AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
The customers we have on 25Mbps barely use it to its full extent. Streaming
services are only using about 5Mbps of it. When they're browsing the web they
use anywhere from 10-20 but its seldom and its just bursting. I wouldn't try
25Mbps on UBNT
] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
thats where the 300GB comes in. If they run 25Mbps 24/7 they're going to get
overages for $1/GB
That's the mechanism for keeping the excessive use at bay.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
How many WISPs out there offer 25x3? What do you charge for it? Are there
bandwidth limits or is it unlimited? I'm trying to understand how we could
reliably provide this service without putting 5-10 customers per AP.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
well ya dedicated is a completely different monster. They pay a premium and i
dont care what they do with it.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Luckily, this particular guy
in. If they run 25Mbps 24/7 they're going
to get overages for $1/GB
That's the mechanism for keeping the excessive use at bay.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 11:07 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Andy
) of
aaa/bbb which helps a little bit with that, looks great on a speed test,
and meets customer perception issues
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Trimmell
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 10:57 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
perception issues
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Trimmell
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 10:57 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
The customers we have on 25Mbps barely use it to its full extent.
Streaming services are only using about 5Mbps
GPS timed stuff out there that would probably work for 15 customers.
We charge $80 for 25/5 with 300GB
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
How many WISPs out there offer 25x3? What
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
I don't burst anything. Too gimmicky. I'm 10/2, moving to 20/4, but I may make
it 25/5 just to be still considered a broadband provider. It would be at a $100
price
Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
Date:01-30-2015 3:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Which you may not be able to do in the future depending on how the net
neutrality argument goes.
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp
, 2015 2:48:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Really? It's not like I'm making the experience poor unless you subscribe to
the package. I'm offering unlimited data for a specific type of service at a
cost.
Cheers,
Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
1-866-727-4138 x-600
-
From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:59:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Mike,
Just curious if you have thought about this or how many customers you have that
might impact. You would be cool with someone that streams for even 24 hours
Can you control the bandwidth on a Roku?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com; Andy Trimmell
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Apple TV, on Netflix for instance, will always ignore the user account
bandwidth
/silowireless
Original message
From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
Date:01-30-2015 3:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Which you may not be able to do in the future depending on how the net
neutrality argument goes.
josh reynolds :: chief
@afmug.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
The Net Neutrality zealots rarely care about anything other than everything for
nothing.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics
, SmarterBroadband wrote:
Can you control the bandwidth on a Roku?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com; Andy Trimmell
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Apple TV, on Netflix for instance, will always ignore the user
I have customers set Netflix to Low in the My Account/Playback settings.
Limits Netflix to 0.3Gb hour.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
for netflix it uses automatic
Date:01-30-2015 3:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Mike,
Just curious if you have thought about this or how many customers you have that
might impact.You would be cool with someone that streams for even 24 hours
straight (no break) at 25Mbit? That doesn't
/service-plans
Paul
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 11:22 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Do you share your burst and sustained rates with the customer? Will you
share them here? Do you offer a 25Mbps
Hammett af...@ics-il.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:36:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
The areas this would have potential to be problems have ample bandwidth and
airtime. Just hang more sectors and put up another AF or whatever else I happen
to come up
Unlimited. $200/month
John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937
-Original Message-
From: Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:52am
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
How many WISPs out there offer 25x3
Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:35:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Which you may not be able to do in the future depending on how the net
neutrality argument goes.
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/30/2015
Blame Canada.
- Original Message -
From: Josh Reynolds
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Oh, well then... :)
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comOn 01/30/2015 11:36 AM, Mike Hammett
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Trimmell
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 10:57 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
The customers we have on 25Mbps barely use it to its full extent.
Streaming services are only using about 5Mbps of it. When they're
browsing the web
? That doesn’t put in
a crimp in your AP or BH bandwidth on any of your towers?
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 3:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
I don't burst anything. Too gimmicky. I'm 10/2, moving
Exactly... Here comes the BOOM! cable-co's
On 1/30/2015 8:42 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
Minimum definition of broadband is now 25Mbps down and 3Mbps up. My
question is, if you say up to, does that qualify? ;)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/29/fcc_sextuples_broadband_speed/
Travis
--
-PowerBurst plans going away sometime after the whole network is
upgrade to ePMP or 450 series.
Paul
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 5:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Thanks for sharing Paul! That is a ton of service plans. Do
I hope everyone here is responding to the call to action so we can be
heard I am so sick of getting pushed around by someone sitting in a
cushy office not knowing exactly what those rule sets are going to do
the little guy.
I just wonder if he knows who this is going to benefit? Besides his
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps
Thanks for sharing Paul! That is a ton of service plans. Do you find
customers getting confused with the larger number of options or do you
find that they appreciate your flexibility?
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net
mailto:pa
Minimum definition of broadband is now 25Mbps down and 3Mbps up. My
question is, if you say up to, does that qualify? ;)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/29/fcc_sextuples_broadband_speed/
Travis
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