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*From: *Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:41:15 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
In my
We recently had a site where an electrician installed a panel and his own
ground (rod) for the electrical/AC ground. We then installed our equipment
at the bottom of the tower and bonded everything in the cabinet to the
tower ground. This site took a pretty bad strike and it was my
understanding
with?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
If your grounding is failing, it is because some piece somewhere isn't big
enough or connected properly
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:26:29 AM
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That’s a great answer in theory, but both buildings that we had to be
disconnected from were thoroughly checked out by a reputable and thorough
electrician.
If the tower gets
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To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:16:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
We recently had a site where an electrician installed a panel and his own
ground (rod) for the electrical/AC ground. We then installed our equipment
if
that helps at this site.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
For electrical service purposes the ground wire you have is fine. The tower
16, 2015 6:49:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
Mark,
Proposing to bond electrical ground with tower ground at the tower is the
opposite of what they are saying to do. I know, I know … we have done that
pretty regularly in the past. We had a coupe towers
Yes!!!
Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 16, 2015 9:45 AM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:
On 4/16/15 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Tower ground wasn't sufficient?
Also, fiber would help keep the surge out of your
On 4/16/15 7:49 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
Mark,
Proposing to bond electrical ground with tower ground at the tower is
the opposite of what they are saying to do. I know, I know … we have
done that pretty regularly in the past. We had a coupe towers that
got total equipment losses a several
On 4/16/15 8:16 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
We recently had a site where an electrician installed a panel and his
own ground (rod) for the electrical/AC ground. We then installed our
equipment at the bottom of the tower and bonded everything in the
cabinet to the tower ground. This site took a
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
If your grounding is failing, it is because some piece somewhere isn't big
enough or connected properly.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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On 4/16/15 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Tower ground wasn't sufficient?
Also, fiber would help keep the surge out of your data path, if only
the equipment vendors supported it.
Mike Hammett
In the spirit of Godwin's law
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law), I propose we now have
We lost a few AP's (450s, ugh) at the top, and a few SyncInjectors at the
base. The AP's were going through WB SP's at the base in our cabinet
before they went into the SyncInjectors.
Ok - so really, EVERYTHING should be tied together. It would seem that in
our scenario, the electrical ground
Nazi...
;-)
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:45:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
- Original Message -
From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:41:15 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
In my continued disposition of acknowledging that I am not a electrical
grounding expert, I lay out this scenario
.
Perhaps smaller.Of course this has nothing to do with lightening or surge
suppression.
From: Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
In my continued disposition of acknowledging that I am
For a 30 amp circuit?
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
Your ground should be at least 4 gauge, maybe even larger than that. One of the
0/x gauges is in my mind for some reason
: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
For a 30 amp circuit?
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
Your ground should be at least 4 gauge, maybe even larger than
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*From: *Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:01:06 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
For a 30 amp circuit?
*From:* Mike
. If the
only goal is to get a safe receptacle at the top of the tower I would thing
that would suffice as long as the tower itself is bonded properly. No?
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
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To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:07:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
So, you are hanging a receptacle on a tower. 30 amp 10 gauge.
You want a 4 gauge ground? I understanding bonding the tower to a common bond
point with a large
Ahhh, didn’t catch that the tower was 200’ from the service. I see...
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
I'm referring to 200' between the tower and your service. Those need to be
large
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
Ahhh, didn’t catch that the tower was 200’ from the service. I see...
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Electrical - Grounding question - long run
I'm referring
Hmmm, not an electrical person either, but quick search online
says #6 gauge highly recommended for 200' run vice the #10 you
mention.
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Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net
On Wed April 15 2015 14:41, Paul McCall wrote:
In my continued disposition of acknowledging that I am not a electrical
In my continued disposition of acknowledging that I am not a electrical
grounding expert, I lay out this scenario for review, a new tower we just built.
We installed a new tower, approximately 200ft. from the service panel that
feeds it. We will be on our own breaker (kinda irrelevant here).
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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:15:29 PM
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Ahhh, didn’t catch that the tower was 200’ from the service. I see...
From: Mike Hammettmailto:af...@ics-il.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015
For electrical service purposes the ground wire you have is fine. The tower
itself obviously needs to be well grounded.
Where is your equipment? I'm assuming it's at the tower since you talk about
driving the battery charger. All of the equipment at the tower needs to be
bonded together
Mark's answer matches what my recommendation would be.
I'd just use the same sized conductor for ground that you used for the
circuit itself, and make sure that the breaker is sized correctly (meaning
not too large) for the wire run. I would probably put a 15A breaker in
back at the panel, even
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