Low cost PtMP sync? *ducking*
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:16:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far
Why would they buy Cambium? What would they gain?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net
wrote:
My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare
If wishes and wants were candy and nuts...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote:
If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin
Sent
My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :)
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On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote:
If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin
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Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc
Sync that works?
Jerry
On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Why would they buy Cambium? What would they gain?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16
I suppose it would be cheaper to have the team that did Canopy sync do
Airmax sync then to buy the entire Cambium corporation...but maybe I'm
wrong.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jerry Richardson
Sync on a low cost chip for a lower end product line, maybe.
AF sync works well, and also doesn't require a bunch of external hardware and
odd pinouts and things.
On April 24, 2015 8:01:25 AM AKDT, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote:
Sync that works?
Jerry
On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:16
buy Netonix.
And UWN makes no sense.
Of course Google could buy the whole company from petty cash.
From: Jeremy
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
It feels like we are going off topic now, but UBNT announced that their 3rd
Buying the Corp would remove a competitor. Historically Cambium wasn't a
competitor to UBNT (different market focus), but once UBNT grew up a bit and
then Cambium released EPMP, that seems like a much more realistic proposition.
On April 24, 2015 8:03:12 AM AKDT, Josh Luthman
] loving these AF5X's so far!
It feels like we are going off topic now, but UBNT announced that their 3rd
quater earnings are lower than expected and the CFO has resigned. Stock has
already fallen more than 5% today. OUCH!
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I suppose it would be cheaper to have the team that did Canopy sync do Airmax
sync then to buy the entire Cambium corporation...but maybe I'm wrong.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy
Thanks for the great feedback!
More units will be arriving next week.
Regards,
Ben
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant.
34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57
Are you on 3.x firmware?
On April 23, 2015 2:52:11 PM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant.
34dbi
dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all
chains),
40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between
These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi
dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains),
40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing
260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle.
The lights don't
What channel are you running on? It will let you set it to full power, but
it should limit it(and display what it's actually doing on the main screen)
to whatever is appropriate for your antennas and the band you're using.
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
I
There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet.
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net
wrote:
Is multipoint in the future? white space?
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On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:
Thanks for
14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me.
Anyway, UBNT support has contacted me about possibilities for improving the
link. We're looking at it now (not that it needs much improvement). How
is that for customer support? They reached out to me.
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at
I have the db of the antennas entered and it was set to 54 db but it auto
sets the gain based on antenna size. Everything is set correctly, unless
there is some 'trick' to it. I was under the impression that these things
set their own gain based on antenna size and EIRP. The EIRP shows
I have another AF5X installed also. The signal levels on that one were
horrible. I got looking at the path and realized that I actually have a
LOS issue on that link that has cropped up, and it is shooting through the
treetops. It is still doing 179Mbps but has some definite issues. I need
to
No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming
from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)...
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net
wrote:
Is multipoint in the future? white space?
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On
Lights are right on for me. Blinking red would be 14db off I think.
Blinking blue is 1 off.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 23, 2015 8:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
There have been murmurs of multipoint being a
Do you have the gain set right?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 23, 2015 9:01 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me.
Anyway, UBNT support has contacted me
I do not have any cable loss set...
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
I have the db of the antennas entered and it was set to 54 db but it auto
sets the gain based on antenna size. Everything is set correctly, unless
there is some 'trick' to it. I was
: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from
AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)...
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net
wrote:
Is multipoint in the future
23, 2015 8:01:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me. Anyway, UBNT
support has contacted me about possibilities for improving the link. We're
looking at it now (not that it needs much improvement). How
if there was a good 25db dish out there that I liked i would use it...
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Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110
On Apr 19, 2015, at 1:41 AM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com wrote:
What about a 24dBi?
http://www.brinknetworks.com/jirous-jrc-24-ex-mimo-1-dual-polarity-high-performance-dish/
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com
On 04/18/2015 11:08 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
if there was a good 25db dish out there that I liked i would use it...
Sent from my
, April 18, 2015 11:22:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Hi,
The sensitivity of the DFS receiver increases as the antenna gain decreases.
The lowest gain DFS is certified for is a 23 dBi antenna gain. Setting an
antenna gain lower than 23 dBi may result in unwanted DFS
Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 11:30:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
PS. You might want to consider water proofing
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- Original Message -
From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 2:15:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
What about a 24dBi?
http://www.brinknetworks.com/jirous-jrc-24-ex-mimo-1-dual-polarity-high-performance
shipped release
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Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110
On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release?
I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote:
shipped release
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Kurt
While it the connector itself may be IP67 complaint, I have seen several crimp
jobs of the cable onto the connector where there were gaps that would allow
water to penetrate down into the connector. If this particular GPS cable
suffers from a poor crimp, the cup formed by the boot will cause
Josh,
I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference.
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
I mastic and tape all of my connectors. There's no reason not to. I know
I have never said I wish I hadn't sealed these connectors that have been
here for five years without getting water in them. I still love that the
boot makes it easier to remove the cables once it has been sealed. Anyone
:
Are you replacing Rockets? If yes, are you rotating the feed to get
dual slant?
*From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:30 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I mastic and tape all of my connectors. There's no reason
We used to put electrical tape under the mastic until we discovered fusion tape.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 9:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I mastic and tape all of my connectors
Are you replacing Rockets? If yes, are you rotating the feed to get dual slant?
From: Jeremy
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I mastic and tape all of my connectors. There's no reason not to. I know I
have never said I
Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com
wrote:
Josh,
I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference.
V/H or +45/-45?
From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 7:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends.
Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I
Did you set 23dbi gain?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote:
First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both
ends.
Initially tried to use DFS
looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's
limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference,
since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be
showing 38 on the interface.
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman
The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've
got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:
looks to me like the
Weird, it's working right for me. Did you upgrade to v3.0, or are you still
on RC7 or whatever it was they shipped with?
I'm getting 45db eirp with 30dbi dishes, which should be the correct max
for 5.2ghz. maybe it's only screwed up with smaller antennas.
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Josh
3.0
My link is only 2000 feet. 19dbi antenna give me -60 and I can see it
bounce up and down 1db. I'm not certain there's ATPC but it certainly
looks that way.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 18, 2015 9:12 PM, Mathew Howard
That would makes sense, I don't remember hearing anything about ATPC on
these, but it would be kind of surprising if they didn't have it.
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
3.0
My link is only 2000 feet. 19dbi antenna give me -60 and I can see it
There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x
firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat
on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc.
On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Ken,
This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm
limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great
so I don't think I'm going to mess with them.
Josh,
No I did not set antenna gain.
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain
exactly for DFS to work. I think they also mentioned that you couldn't use
DFS freqs for both polarities without getting detections. So I believe one
freq would have to be non-DFS and one DFS. Did I catch that correctly?
I've got 3 DFS set... No problems.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 18, 2015 11:30 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain
exactly for DFS to work. I
I thought I recalled Chuck mentioning something like that at AF. I guess I
should have taken notes.
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
I've got 3 DFS set... No problems.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
PS. You might want to consider water proofing that GPS connector as well.. They
way that boot works has always made me feel like it’s a perfect water cup.
I'm also quite confused on some people using low gain antennas for this. At
a minimum, people should be using 25 db dish antennas. We plan on using
minimum 30 db dishes on these links to improve link budget and block noise
with the narrower beam. Why all of a sudden 2-3 people are using panel
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