Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread David Milholen
Imagine it happening in the dead of winter with ice hanging off the tower :::ARG! On 8/13/2016 6:18 PM, George Skorup wrote: I started hearing more and more thunder to the south (from home about 15 miles away). Alarms started going nuts. Whole tower down? WTF! Sure enough, looking at the

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread George Skorup
Haven't had any problems with Chuck's outdoor SS units regarding weathering or rain. But the problem we have been having with them (specifically the GIGE-SS-HV since that's all we've used) is intermittent ethernet link. I'm 99.9% sure that it's because of the way the cables enter the box.

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread David Milholen
Did you use an ISO-BLok on your Main AC Line to your gear down stairs?? On 8/13/2016 5:55 PM, George Skorup wrote: The surge suppressors we have at that site are L-com/Hyperlinks. A couple were blown top and bottom. Another radio was only the top and another only the bottom. The 900 AP board

[AFMUG] 5GHz CPE Antenna

2016-08-13 Thread Jason McKemie
Does anyone have a recommendation for a dish or panel for use with a CPE device? I'm looking to use it with the connectorized Mimosa C5 units. I see Ignitenet makes a dish, can't seem to find much in the panel arena. -Jason

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks .. I took a quick look and latest firmwares are deployed so looks like we’re ok at least on that front :) > On Aug 13, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > > Can the original Aircontrol handle configuring/monitoring/updating latest > firmwares or latest

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread George Skorup
It's not our site. But we're going to recommend a surge suppressor at the panel. If they won't do it, then we'll buy the stuff and do it ourselves. One of those and a 20A double pole breaker under $100. I forget what we normally use, probably Square D. On 8/13/2016 8:58 PM, David Milholen

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Loaded question … are folks running alternatives? Just management/provisioning … no billing or anything of that nature…. Thanks, Paul > On Aug 13, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Yep > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 >

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks everyone for your feedback .. appreciate it… This guy has 2200 subs at the moment running under original AC and having lots of challenges ;) He’s on track with some expansion to hit 6000 by next spring so sounds like moving to AC2 will be one step in the right direction at least

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
AC2 was rubbish. There is now active development and it is on a good development path. I outgrew AC1 a couple of years ago. AC2 does a great job for my 1000+ devices. Jim Bouse Owner Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com Original message From: Paul Stewart

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Yep Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 13, 2016 7:09 AM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > So last night I got a msg from a buddy who is running a Ubiquiti system .. > he is using the original AirControl software

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Jeremy
AC2 is awesome. On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: > They changed strategy and declared AC2 the winner. There is a RC which > runs quite good. Does a quite good job to keep Firmware up to date and > follow cpe signals over time. > Mapping is included but

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Jeremy
That being saidthe upgrade process from AC1 to AC2 left a lot to be desired. I followed many tutorials trying to get the database to transfer, but I lost it all. Had to rescan the network and add every device back in. If historical data in AC is important...be aware that you may lose it

[AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Paul Stewart
So last night I got a msg from a buddy who is running a Ubiquiti system .. he is using the original AirControl software and his problem was actually Linux related. All good, got it sorted out - he hadn’t done any updates or maintenance in 4 years so that can suddenly cause you issues ;) I

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Ubiquiti has severe ADD in this department. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Paul Stewart" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Stefan Englhardt
They changed strategy and declared AC2 the winner. There is a RC which runs quite good. Does a quite good job to keep Firmware up to date and follow cpe signals over time.Mapping is included but uses bing. There is only a java client at the moment which does not scale with higher resolution

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Same with UCRM Control. You have to do a fresh setup. They had a mess of development trees which seem to clear now. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jeremy Gesendet: Samstag, 13. August 2016 16:40 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] AirControl That being saidthe

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks for that note… appreciate it… Guess I should check in $$$job to see what we’re doing too .. pretty sure we utilize original AC there too … Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: August 13, 2016 10:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

2016-08-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
de-railed - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? What happened to this thread Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

[AFMUG] apple stock

2016-08-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
wow, so you went through several several splits too, did you not? Wasn't it trading $400+ before it did a 1:4 split like two years ago or something? - Original Message - From: Paul Stewart To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google

Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

2016-08-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I need a big turnaround or two like those lol - Original Message - From: Paul Stewart To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? Yup .. and I sold out after much debate….$808 a share - originally bought

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/13/16 04:09, Paul Stewart wrote: Is this common experience with their AirControl system? They get bored partway through development and start something else in a new direction or backtrack or abandon. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] apple stock

2016-08-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Yup … :) I only seen two of the splits that happened over that timeframe but the full split history is: Date Ratio 06/16/1987 2 for 1 06/21/2000 2 for 1 02/28/2005 2 for 1 06/09/2014 7 for 1 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] 24GHz Radio

2016-08-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
hahahahsnicker - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24GHz Radio Your belief is incorrect. Leave the KPP and Powercode booths. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] 24GHz Radio

2016-08-13 Thread Sean Heskett
If you only need 100mbps SAF Freemile works great. SAF Integra24 is rock solid and you can do 2+0 to get close to 1gbps Airfiber works really well too but size wise they are huge. -Sean On Friday, August 12, 2016, Ryan Ray wrote: > If you were to pick the most RELIABLE

Re: [AFMUG] 24GHz Radio

2016-08-13 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Care to define what exactly you mean by "Reliable" ? RF Side of the Link ? Hardware ? uptime ? Known / Un-known software bugs ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:

Re: [AFMUG] 24GHz Radio

2016-08-13 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I would not put up 24ghz anything without having a 5ghz backup for fade. On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Care to define what exactly you mean by "Reliable" ? > > RF Side of the Link ? > Hardware ? uptime ? > Known / Un-known software bugs ? > >

Re: [AFMUG] AirControl

2016-08-13 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Can the original Aircontrol handle configuring/monitoring/updating latest firmwares or latest devices? I thought it wasnt capable of anything past 5.5.x? In which case maybe you’re running vulnerable firmwares if you’re still on AC1? > On Aug 13, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Paul Stewart

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread George Skorup
Ended up replacing radios and surge suppressors at a tower all afternoon. Must've came in through power. Almost every breaker including the main was tripped. GFI recept with nothing plugged into it was tripped. On 8/13/2016 4:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Lake Shelbyville tells me I

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread Josh Luthman
I had to get up at 7 on a Saturday to get a good spot at Cars and Coffee =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:53 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Ended up replacing radios and surge suppressors

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread Jason McKemie
I lost a SIAE radio as well as a Mimosa A5 - both were properly grounded, the SIAE was optical with dedicated power wires as well. Also had a couple customer's routers get fried. Overall, not a fun day. I would rather be at Lake Shelbyville... On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:53 PM, George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread George Skorup
Had a 5.7 Cyclone omni and a Antel 900 omni. So we flew the Phantom up first to see if those antennas were vaporized. Surprisingly they were still there. The Cyclone still worked, but the timing port was dead. Power port timing died on it last year. 450 sectors, AF24 and a Force200 were

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread Jason McKemie
Yeah, I had a Ubiquiti Rocket and some nanobridges on the same tower, albeit lower, that didn't skip a beat. I go to all of the trouble of running dedicated power and optical, only to have some cheap Ubiquiti stuff outlive it - makes you wonder. The surge on the Mimosa went through the SS and

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread George Skorup
The surge suppressors we have at that site are L-com/Hyperlinks. A couple were blown top and bottom. Another radio was only the top and another only the bottom. The 900 AP board wasn't burned up, but dead. Lost that port on the MikroTik. Both SS's on that were dead. I'm going to rebuild

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread Jason McKemie
GIGE-APC on the Mimosa. I don't have anything SS wise up-top. I'm a bit torn on whether or not that does any good, plus manufacturers don't like recommending anything. On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:55 PM, George Skorup wrote: > The surge suppressors we have at that site are

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread Jason McKemie
This lightning storm was an oddly destructive one. I had what appeared to be a fried PoE injector at a customer's house - the power supply and RB260GS were both OK, but the customer's router had a fried WAN port as well (fiber customer). I'm going to do some testing on the PoE injector to see if

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread George Skorup
I started hearing more and more thunder to the south (from home about 15 miles away). Alarms started going nuts. Whole tower down? WTF! Sure enough, looking at the radar showed an orange/red-ish blob over the site. I want to say I've seen this before. It was raining for 4-5 hours straight so

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I don't know, but I agree. Next to no rain in June, then July and BAM! - Original Message - From: George Skorup To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down I started hearing more and more thunder to the

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/13/16 3:28 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: I lost a SIAE radio as well as a Mimosa A5 - both were properly grounded, the SIAE was optical with dedicated power wires as well. Also had a couple customer's routers get fried. Overall, not a fun day. I would rather be at Lake Shelbyville... Were

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread Jason McKemie
I haven't put any on the SIAE's DC line as of yet. Strangely, the power supply appears to be fine, the radio is what got toasted. I'll probably be putting one inside now that the APC DC version is available. Again, the manufacturer does not recommend anything outside. Maybe I'm over-analyzing,

Re: [AFMUG] Who cares if the network is down

2016-08-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
For almost a decade, I've had two cellphones in my pockets 24x7. Normally I'd offer some help for anybody near me. Just not until Wednesday On Aug 13, 2016 6:37 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > I haven't put any on the SIAE's DC line as of yet. Strangely, the