Re: [AFMUG] Semi-OT: Line of Credit interest rates

Didn’t look but I think it’s about $150 in fees, 4% interest and no maint. fees for 150k line Mark

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

We've used some regular ol' SJOOW. 16AWG would probably be fine for a single eNB, since you can only run 100 meters of ethernet anyway. An alternative would be Shireen DFP-1246 that comes in 500' spools. If Baicells comes up with a new eNB later with a SFP slot, then you're all set. Then the

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

Delcity.net but I font usually buy wire there On Fri, May 12, 2017, 6:16 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Border States or Summit Electric.. > > On May 12, 2017 5:12 PM, "Jason McKemie" > wrote: > >> Does anyone have a good source for 14

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

Screwed by whose definition? If he put all that money that he would have paid as taxes under his bed/cabin/lean-to, he may be way... Way.. WAY better off... On 05/12/2017 01:51 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: I believe that he is. On 5/12/17 1:44 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That's right. I

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

Border States or Summit Electric.. On May 12, 2017 5:12 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable? The stuff that > Baicells is trying to push is really over priced. >

[AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable? The stuff that Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

It’s on the radar but no solid plan yet. We will likely pursue it in a number of ways - one will likely be a ‘model legislation’ to exempt communication provider that can be taken to the state legislatures similar to what Blair is working on in Michigan.I expect it will also be addressed

Re: [AFMUG] Semi-OT: Line of Credit interest rates

Well, the first data point seems to confirm my suspicion This is prime + 6% (aka around 10%), $175/year for 70K. That isn't actually what I was paying up until now - the initial rate was 4% (same fees), but the "first 24 month" offer is ending. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Mark

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Is the janitor storing a mop bucket in the phone closet? Is it still "exclusively for such installations" then? -- Original Message -- From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "af" Sent: 5/12/2017 3:42:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Is there an exception for bringing a drop cable into a structure? Surely they're not going to require every cable guy to become an electician -- Original Message -- From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "af" Sent: 5/12/2017 3:42:47 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450x 15.1 Code

Hi Kurt, The SM's are hanging for ~ 60 seconds when you attempt to login (data appears to pass, just management) due to Accounts > User Authentication And Access Tracking > User Authentication Mode being set to remote then local. Setting this to Local resolves the issue for us. The same

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Doesn't the note only apply to this exemption: "(4) Installations of communications equipment under the exclusive control of communications utilities located outdoors or in building spaces used exclusively for such installations." So your CO or NOC would be fine. Probably a phone room as well.

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

The whole company and everything we do is not covered. That is how I read it. Not covered: Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may include those entities that are typically designated or recognized by governmental law or regulation by public service/utility commissions

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

Yeah, I would never recommend going it alone on the first one, or really any. My wife had an extremely easy time with the first three in the hospital. I mean, after the first she said: “That was it? I would rather do that than go to the dentist”. #4 a midwife was hired but she got stuck in

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450x 15.1 Code

Does this consistently happen every single time you try to login to an SM or is it sporadic? On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Tim Alexander wrote: > Hi Kurt, > > The SM's are hanging for ~ 60 seconds when you attempt to login (data > appears to pass, just management) due to

Re: [AFMUG] NAT and CDN Services

If you can avoid NAT (goes without saying) then take that route for sure…. But I’d suggest a pool of IP addresses at a minimum for NAT … for 1000 users, at least a /27 to avoid running into issues with, not just CDN, but other things as well … Also, if possible, consider IPv6 for the event -

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

We use a small 5” inch box with a belt clip. Inside is a tiny 12V lead acid battery because it is forgiving and easy to charge in the car. It has a 48volt dc/dc converter with a switch that lets us choose between 12v and 48V so that we can power either Ubiquiti or wimax CPEs. We have a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

A customer of mine has 8 kids and and least 5 of them were delivered at their house. They hired a midwife for like $500 each time. It definitely is a lot cheaper than hospitals around here are charging at least 8k-10k for deliveries which I think is bull since childbirth is a naturally occurring

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

Go to the county health department. They will record the birth and get you a birth certificate (in Illinois). From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 8:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance we had the existing 2 in the hospital, the first one had a heart

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Are any WISPA representatives on this issue to get clarification of impact, maybe some resources by region On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 9:39 AM, wrote: > The whole company and everything we do is not covered. That is how I read > it. > > Not covered: > *Informational Note to (4)

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

AirGateway and 20V DeWalt flashlight (modified) On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Matt Corcoran wrote: > We use a small 5” inch box with a belt clip. Inside is a tiny 12V lead > acid battery because it is forgiving and easy to charge in the car. It has > a 48volt dc/dc

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

Powerlink as well. Only complaint was the old units have shitty Ethernet ports that don't hold the cable and zip ties aren't enough. I sent mine in for repair and happy since. I've tried tons of home made options... This is the best solution. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc.

+1000 From: Jeremy Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc. Unless you are looking for an FLSA lawsuit, I'd stay away from comp time as reimbursement for overtime hours worked. It is 100% explicitly illegal.

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

We used a CCR1036 to do full routes on dual gigabit BGP peers. Turning up IPv6 with full routes did not seem to change the load at all. I really like the CCR routers. On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > We are running OSPF and an EOIP tunnel.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450x 15.1 Code

Mark, can you let us know what is the default values for the new Brigde Filter option? From: Af > on behalf of Mark Radabaugh > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

If your kid becomes un-documented and never gets a SSN can they just fly under the radar of society and never pay taxes, get a drivers license, etc? That would be awesome. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:02 AM, wrote: > Go to the county health department. They will record the birth

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

When I was growing up and still making allowance ( $5/month ) I had dreams of doing exactly that, having land up in the Sierras and being completely off the gov't radar with the land in someone else's name. Then my dad made me get a ssn ( I didn't realize one had been assigned at birth )...

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

Crossover cable is 100% useless for Cambium. Unless you're referring to the power polarity being reversed (those are two different things)? Force180/200 will accept normal power just like Ubnt. This is what we use for the most part. The only hassle is a wrong cable (denoted with electrical

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

72,73,74 On May 12, 2017 10:08 AM, wrote: Until ICE deports them to Syria. *From:* Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance If your kid becomes un-documented and never gets a SSN can they just fly

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450x 15.1 Code

Why havn't you updated the AP's firmware to what the SM's are running? Isn't that just asking for issues? I thought Cambium always said to update the AP prior to SM's anyway? On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Tim Alexander wrote: > Hi Kurt, > > Every single time, in all test

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

That's because the BGP core was already maxed out. Once it's maxed, more load is still maxed, just now you have longer and longer delays. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

Social Security didn't have any linkage with the county health department. We had to send the birth certificate to them to get the SSN number. Sometimes that was years later. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

I thought the ssn was assigned even if the card isn't sent... On 5/12/17 9:16 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yep, separate process. At least back in the day when my kids were born. *From:* Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 10:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

Yep, separate process. At least back in the day when my kids were born. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance can you get a birth certificate without having to get the SSN registered? On Fri, May 12, 2017 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

I've heard tell of a local man working in the construction trades who was born at home and has no documentation. Apparently he likes it that way. He works for cash and lives in a cabin on his parents' land. I'm not saying it's the right way, but it's apparently an option. -- Original

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc.

Unless you are looking for an FLSA lawsuit, I'd stay away from comp time as reimbursement for overtime hours worked. It is 100% explicitly illegal. However, the Trump administration is trying to push it through right now. It already passed the House but is unlikely to pass the Senate. In the

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

So looking at options with our contractor on this, BGP appear to be flapping occasionally, I dont know alot, about BGP, but I know its poor etiquette If we stay on the mikrotik we are going to get the CCR1072 solution unless there a better routerboard for this not listed Cisco is still on the

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

We have the same issue with the Ethernet ports. We piggybacked off the Ethernet port with a cable that was more permanently held into the Ethernet port with tape and it goes to an affixed external Ethernet port. We can still use crossover cables for Cambium and straight through for Ubiquiti

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

As far as I know WISPA has not been talking about it. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn Are any WISPA representatives on this issue to get clarification of impact, maybe some resources by region On Fri, May 12, 2017 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

Until ICE deports them to Syria. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance If your kid becomes un-documented and never gets a SSN can they just fly under the radar of society and never pay taxes, get a drivers

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

can you get a birth certificate without having to get the SSN registered? On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > 72,73,74 > > On May 12, 2017 10:08 AM, wrote: > > Until ICE deports them to Syria. > > *From:* Kurt Fankhauser >

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

I think the key phrase is this one: "located outdoors or in building spaces used exclusively for such installations". I do prefer your interpretation, and I hope you're correct. If you're not correct, then does the inside of the wall count as a space used only for utilities? So maybe if the

Re: [AFMUG] Employee Retention - Benefits, Insurance, etc.

I hate rules like this. I dont like my options as an employee to be taken away from me, I have always preferred to trade OT for comp time, but some asshole employers abused somebody so now gubment has to step in. They cant even do vultary waivers for employees to sign because "voluntary" can be a

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

My fix for that was to gorilla glue the ethernet cable in. So far so good. I have a second that will not power anything. Need to get it back to them. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

the 1072 allows alot of other stuff to be going on now and in the future we "just enoughed" with the rb1100ahx2 for simplicity and choked out of the gate On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > That's because the BGP core was already maxed out. Once it's maxed,

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Most of the electricians I know don't know much about low voltage cabling. They treat the cable like it's Romex. Steve Jones wrote: It sounds like this would be worth a WISPA look, considering worst case scenario it could price out the bulk of the membership On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:35

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Yeah, stuff like that. Bill Prince wrote: Many of my experiences with electricians running cat5 have wound up with bundles of cat5 strapped to romex. :-( bp On 5/12/2017 11:20 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Most of the electricians I know don't know much about low

Re: [AFMUG] rb1100ahx2 bgp load

Going with one of the pre-built Mikrotik x86 routers (like the PowerRouter, or one of the others, whose names escape me at the moment...) is the best way to go for BGP on Mikrotik at this point, in my opinion. You could just use any generic x86 box, but then there's always the chance you'll run

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

Sorry, when I say crossover cable, I am talking about the reversed polarity. ( I know it is different that the data pairs being reversed, but we never build the data crossover cable, so we have started using the crossover term for reversing the polarity as the techs have latched on to that

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

We also have problems with the not powering anything issue. It was difficult as we never saw with our own eyes, but we think it was combination of the ethernet cable being loose enough in the ethernet jack (thus the eventual taping the thing in, we’ll try the Gorilla glue you mentioned) and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

My nephews grandfather is a Saudi, there apparently is some government program over there that pays for saudi kids to attend college here, his mother is doing something in that regard. I wonder if I could register this kid there and get in on that On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Just got off the phone with our local State Inspector His take is if the device is outside and NOT getting power from inside the property it is located at then it is exempt (such as telco and CATV). If the outdoor device gets power from inside the property then it is NOT exempt. Mitch On

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

It sounds like this would be worth a WISPA look, considering worst case scenario it could price out the bulk of the membership On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Mitch Koep wrote: > Just got off the phone with our local State Inspector > > His take is if the device is outside

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Many of my experiences with electricians running cat5 have wound up with bundles of cat5 strapped to romex. :-( bp On 5/12/2017 11:20 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Most of the electricians I know don't know much about low voltage cabling. They treat the cable like

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

I am also using the Linktechs Powerlink unit as well. It works well for 5ghz and 3.65ghz SM's but with 2.4ghz SM's someimtes I get weird self interference issues from the wifi on the powerlink with the radio. Linktests on 450 and FSK equipment can be squirrely. On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:32 PM,

[AFMUG] IPv4 Market

I was searching around for something and came across this article (in light of discussions around IPv4 etc and CGNAT recently) http://www.trefor.net/2017/05/12/ipv4-address-market/

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

we had the existing 2 in the hospital, the first one had a heart murmur because the doctor in all hi knowledge decided to induce a month early, little runt guy my son was, but his hole in his heart closed up and he outgrew his runtness. the second one had an OB who was a man hating believer in

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450x 15.1 Code

Hi Kurt, Every single time, in all test cases I've run so far. The AP itself is still running old 14.x and 13.x code so I've yet to test the AP on 15.x. */Timothy Alexander/* *Amplex Internet* E-mail: t...@amplex.net Office: 419-837-5015 Mailing Address: 22690 Pemberville Rd Luckey, OH 43443

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

next question ... Does this mean each install, new tower, and/or colo require an electrical permit as well? On 05/12/2017 01:24 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Yeah, stuff like that. Bill Prince wrote: Many of my experiences with electricians running cat5 have wound up with bundles of cat5

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

When it comes time to collect social security, they take your highest 35 years of pay to do the calculation. If you never put anything in, I wonder if you get any out? -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

Slovenia has free college tuition for everyone irrespective of nationality. Just send the kid there. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 11:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance My nephews grandfather is a Saudi, there apparently is some government

Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn

Mr. McCown found a clause excluding any outside plant stuff. -- Original Message -- From: "Mitch Koep" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/12/2017 4:29:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NEC heartburn next question ... Does this mean each install, new tower, and/or colo

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

No, you don't. You have to contribute for at least 20 (if I remember) quarters to get benefits. And many public employees, such as my wife (University professor) don't pay into social security at all - they have an alternative plan that has the same contribution requirements, but the money

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

That's right. I remember that now because we had to go to a little extra effort to ensure my wife had 20 quarters, but then we learned she gets half my benefit if it is larger. So it really was not an emergency after all. But for the undocumented guy in the woods, if he doesn't have 20

Re: [AFMUG] OT: firewall maintenance

I believe that he is. On 5/12/17 1:44 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That's right. I remember that now because we had to go to a little extra effort to ensure my wife had 20 quarters, but then we learned she gets half my benefit if it is larger. So it really was not an emergency after all.

[AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server

Is there a way to get the mikrotik to just send emails without having to configure an smtp server/relay? I dont directly have issue with setting up authentication to a mail relay, it just seems unneccessary if I have good SPF

[AFMUG] Source for Fortigate reseller

Need a quote for 30 FortiWifi-30E units Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Source for Fortigate reseller

Sent u contact off list On May 12, 2017 2:18 PM, "Gino A. Villarini" wrote: > > > Need a quote for 30 FortiWifi-30E units > > > > > *Gino A. Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450x 15.1 Code

Hello, The setting BEFORE the update was "remote then local" the setting did not change due to the update. Only the behavior when this is set changed. On 14.x and 13.x our SM's were set "remote then local" and you can log in via the management IP without any delay. This setting on the 15.1

Re: [AFMUG] Source for Fortigate reseller

we are a reseller, ill forward On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > > > Need a quote for 30 FortiWifi-30E units > > > > > *Gino A. Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > >

Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server

I think you are getting confused with some aspect of how the Mail gets sent (SMTP Process). in MT lingo... smtp server = it can be your mail server (the one that has the receiving email account) which can also be a 'Relay' server if it does not have the receiving email account and it is

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450x 15.1 Code

I updated a 900 cluster last night. ~25 SMs on 15.0.2, 15.0.2.1 or 15.0.3 to 15.1 first. Then the APs from 15.0.2.1 to 15.1. None of the SMs nor the APs got set to remote-then-local. So it's just you guys? :| On 5/12/2017 11:12 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Why havn't you updated the AP's