Re: [AFMUG] Switch Storm Control

2018-04-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I don't have a good answer for you but I really wish more devices would permit filtering such that the only broadcasts/multicasts permitted on customer facing segments were ARP and possibly DCHP if that's applicable to you. If you can exempt arp and dhcp from this, then the correct value

Re: [AFMUG] Switch Storm Control

2018-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
Exactly what I was thinking. Is it a global setting for the switch or an ingress limit per port? If you can limit it per port then something like 5pps should be plenty. They only need to ARP their default gateway and send a DHCP discover...anything else is surplus garbage. But If it's a

Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

2018-04-17 Thread Dave
Aww man I was wanting to build him an Automated Storage and Retrieval System :) Six Axis Robot Storage and Retrieval System ASRS On 04/17/2018 07:36 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I own a small storage business called 277 Storage . First I would say, there is storage business

Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

2018-04-17 Thread Lewis Bergman
I own a small storage business called 277 Storage . First I would say, there is storage business software that wraps this all up for you. For something of that scale, I would think the ROI of that software is prohibitive, but likely less so than doing it yourself with what I

Re: [AFMUG] Switch Storm Control

2018-04-17 Thread Dave
We route and segment to remove this from being an issue on the infrastructure but as with any network a customer will always figure out a way to break stuff hence the isolation that we use on the AP. If its not a routed packed then it doesnt get thru. On 04/16/2018 04:49 PM, Sterling

Re: [AFMUG] Switch Storm Control

2018-04-17 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Well, I’m using 48 port or more switches attached to each other, so I need something to limit it. The switches typically limit ingress per port, so a low limiter should only affect the devices behind that port if one of the devices storm out. I do have DHCP snooping, but that doesn’t

Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

2018-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
In my area, all the storage companies are booked solid. Yes, nice security fence. The software allows them to open the gate with their phone. Cameras, lights, DVR etc. But, I have a storage company wanting to buy the dirt right now. So I might just sell the dirt. From: Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

2018-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
$39/month And it does everything you could possibly imagine. Totally hands off, no people required, no interaction with the customer required. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg I own a small storage business

Re: [AFMUG] OT One for the borg

2018-04-17 Thread Robert
Lease them the dirt ( Obviously you have already tried that..) On 4/17/18 9:18 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: In my area, all the storage companies are booked solid. Yes, nice security fence.  The software allows them to open the gate with their phone. Cameras, lights, DVR etc. But, I have a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
Agree 100% On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:45 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > You also avoid some of the issues with questionable quality/potency, and > the related poisioning/overdose deaths. > > If one was to redirect all of the funds spent on the war on drugs

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
You also avoid some of the issues with questionable quality/potency, and the related poisioning/overdose deaths. If one was to redirect all of the funds spent on the war on drugs (law enforcement, prisons, etc) into mental health, rehabilitation and education, I think we'd be far better off.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Jay Weekley
Anything that makes me not want to eat or sleep isn't for me. I like those too much. Chuck McCown wrote: If I am going to use bath salts, they are called Epsom and they are dissolved in hot water... Not really clear what they mean by bath salts. I was prescribed Xanax once. Made me sleepy.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
Cathinones. An artificial stimulant. There was/is a loophole in some areas that it's not illegal to sell a product just because it can be misused. So if you sell aerosol cans and somebody is inhaling the propellant to catch a buzz then the seller and producer are not liable for the idiot's

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep, like a bad piece of firmware. It is a root kit for the brain. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 1:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once, permanently

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Nate Burke
I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once, permanently alters the brain chemistry. So it's not a 'recreational' drug, and why it's so addictive. On 4/17/2018 2:11 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Anything that makes me not want to eat or sleep isn't for me. I like those too much.

[AFMUG] Cradlepoint Devices or multi-cell Hotspot

2018-04-17 Thread Nate Burke
So the boss is getting ready to take a road trip, It's vital important that he remain continually connected (his words), I believe what he meant to say is, 'I want to watch netflix every night at the campground'. We have Verizon, but it doesn't work everywhere, I was in a campground in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2018-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Cheap routers plugged in here and there to announce goofy SSIDs could be a whole lot of fun/chaos/alarm... ISIS Unit 1 ANFO Detonator #1 SARAN Release Valve Controller Hello NSA, just joking around here... From: Chris Fabien Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
They released the report, they seized appox 70 grams of xanax, 16 doses od suboxone (essentially heroin) 11.8 grams of bath salts. other misch controlled substance pills as well as delivery of meth charges. fucking bath salts On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Dave wrote: > I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
If I am going to use bath salts, they are called Epsom and they are dissolved in hot water... Not really clear what they mean by bath salts. I was prescribed Xanax once. Made me sleepy. Pot was not my thing back in the 70s... (I preferred Olympia, Blitz, Rainier, Hamms, Miller, Heineken, Henry

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
yeah, can you imagine if a kid had got into that stuff On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like fun > and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows. Granted, all I know about > bath salts

[AFMUG] OT Fun

2018-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
ODD NEWS Name of Wi-Fi network prompts gym evacuation Saginaw Township, Mich. • A Michigan gym patron looking for a Wi-Fi connection found one named “remote detonator,” prompting an evacuation and precautionary search of the facility by a bomb-sniffing dog. The Saginaw News reported nothing

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2018-04-17 Thread Chris Fabien
This is about 20 min from us yea it really happened! On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > ODD NEWS > > Name of Wi-Fi network prompts gym evacuation > > Saginaw Township, Mich. > > • A Michigan gym patron looking for a Wi-Fi connection found one named >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Jay Weekley
I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like fun and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows. Granted, all I know about bath salts are the videos I've come across. Steve Jones wrote: They released the report, they seized appox 70 grams of xanax, 16 doses od suboxone

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread justsumname
some people thought voting at 18 was a good idea. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:19 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > yeah, can you imagine if a kid had got into that stuff > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Jay Weekley > wrote: > >> I understand

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
War is ok though. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 1:39 PM justsumname wrote: > some people thought voting at 18 was a good idea. > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:19 PM, Steve Jones > wrote: > >> yeah, can you imagine if a kid had got into that stuff >> >> On

Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

2018-04-17 Thread Layne Sisk
We have been using RIOT, it works much like Slack but doesn’t cost an arm and a leg to get the one function we needed (Active Directory). Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 [New logo xl] [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Switch Storm Control

2018-04-17 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Well, that’s possible I guess, but it’s a real PITA to configure and keep straight. I mean, you got to keep it tight until it hits the actual router interface, and I have at least two points of VRRP entry into each bank of switches. It’s just much simpler to do static MAC/IP assignments in the

[AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-17 Thread SmarterBroadband
We are looking to install a couple of 18GHz License Links and are restricted to 2 foot antennas. Therefore I need the best output power and Rx sensitivity available today. Both Dragonwave and Bridgewave are touting HP versions but neither will be available for months. Maybe longer. So

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Absolute highest power? I think there is an Aviat 18 GHz radio that is something like +24 Tx power before you add the dish gain. Won't be cheap. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > We are looking to install a couple of 18GHz License Links and are >

Re: [AFMUG] 18GHz Licensed Link best power and Rx Sensitivity

2018-04-17 Thread George Skorup
Have a coordinator tell you how much power you can run on the path before you decide to buy gear. You might be limited to the typical 14-20dBm Tx power due to other paths/licensees. A Radiowaves HP2-18 is 38dBi. We have a 2.5 mile Exalt ExtendAir G2-18 link with that at both ends. +19dBm Tx

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
That's Fake News. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 2:21 PM Nate Burke wrote: > I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once, permanently > alters the brain chemistry. So it's not a 'recreational' drug, and why > it's so addictive. > > On 4/17/2018 2:11 PM, Jay Weekley

[AFMUG] Chicago-Area UBNT USG

2018-04-17 Thread Mike Hammett
If any of you in the Chicago area have an available UBNT USG, let me know. I opened up mine today for a demo tomorrow and it's dead. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Switch Storm Control

2018-04-17 Thread Carl Peterson
If you are doing fiber with active ethernet, why not just run QinQ with a CVLAN for each port and an SVLAN back to wherever? On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Dave wrote: > OMG! > what a broadcast nightmare :) > > > On 04/17/2018 11:49 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > Well,

Re: [AFMUG] Switch Storm Control

2018-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
Interesting thought. -- Original Message -- From: "Carl Peterson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/17/2018 5:23:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Switch Storm Control If you are doing fiber with active ethernet, why not just run QinQ with a CVLAN for each port and an

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2018-04-17 Thread Dave
LOL dont give the bad guys any ideas plz :) On 04/17/2018 12:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Cheap routers plugged in here and there to announce goofy SSIDs could be a whole lot of fun/chaos/alarm... ISIS Unit 1 ANFO Detonator #1 SARAN Release Valve Controller Hello NSA, just joking around here...

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2018-04-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
My favorite is ChuckUFarley Jaime Solorza On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 3:53 PM Dave wrote: > LOL > dont give the bad guys any ideas plz :) > > > On 04/17/2018 12:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Cheap routers plugged in here and there to announce goofy SSIDs could be a > whole lot

Re: [AFMUG] Switch Storm Control

2018-04-17 Thread Dave
OMG!  what a broadcast nightmare :) On 04/17/2018 11:49 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Well, I’m using 48 port or more switches attached to each other, so I need something to limit it. The switches typically limit ingress per port, so a low limiter should only affect the devices behind that

Re: [AFMUG] Chicago-Area UBNT USG

2018-04-17 Thread Jon Lee
I'm not in IL but I could overnight one (too late today) I'm in AZ. -Jon Off-Grid Networks On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Yes. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
theres no shortage of criminals On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I wish we would treat drugs here like they do in Spain and Portugal, but > how would our for-profit prison system, police and federal law enforcement > get money? > > On Tue, Apr 17,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: IM Services

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
openfire has AD, for free On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Layne Sisk wrote: > We have been using RIOT, it works much like Slack but doesn’t cost an arm > and a leg to get the one function we needed (Active Directory). > > > > Layne Sisk > > ServerPlus > > 801.426.8283,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
Thats heroin that permantly alters the opoid receptors in the brain, the molecule is slightly larger than the normal brain chemical (dopamine i think) its replacing, so the receptor is enlarged. Its actually that first use that is why doing heroin is called chasing the dragon, people are seeking

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
I wish we would treat drugs here like they do in Spain and Portugal, but how would our for-profit prison system, police and federal law enforcement get money? On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:42 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Thats heroin that permantly alters the opoid receptors in

Re: [AFMUG] Chicago-Area UBNT USG

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
You talking about ye olden USG? Little square thing? On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 6:25 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > If any of you in the Chicago area have an available UBNT USG, let me know. > I opened up mine today for a demo tomorrow and it's dead. > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

Re: [AFMUG] Chicago-Area UBNT USG

2018-04-17 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:48:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Chicago-Area UBNT USG

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
Decriminalize drugs except in the event of endangering the welfare of a child, or risking life/limb of another person. Drugs are a personal choice. If Jimbo isn't hurting anybody by coming home and the end of a day and smoking a joint, or maybe using mushrooms or MDA to help overcome emotional

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
I like pissing off cartels I always preferred decriminalization to legalization, maintains a secondary effective tax to offset the byproduct cost in treatment, etc. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Decriminalize drugs except in the event of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
If you legalize but tax, there still can be room for a competitor's product that is... Ahem tax free. It's a slipper slope, because if you are taxing it, you are also regulating it. It's crazy ... We allow alcohol but ban weed. Alcohol is disasterous! You can sell homeopathic snake oil, but if

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
decriminalizing maintains the control, keeps people limited to user amounts only, doesnt turn a junkie into a felon whose life is effectively over, but the drug dealers can still be put in prison where they go. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > If

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
That's... That's not at all how it works in the models I'm talking about. You make it 100% legal, and remove the stigma. You provide safe places to get supplies and mental health care. This largely removes the drug market all together (crashes it), making it not a viable thing to sell (better

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
worked great for alcoholism and you cant even get black market moonshine now...oh wait On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:18 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > That's... That's not at all how it works in the models I'm talking about. > > You make it 100% legal, and remove the stigma. You

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
Alcohol wasn't just made 100% illegal, first driving up demand, but then it was made legal to 18 and then 21 year olds to where it became the "gateway to cool". Oh, and it's fucking advertised on everything. I'm not saying we could get rid of alcohol or any drug completely, but there are a lot