Re: [AFMUG] QoS with PPPoE? Where does PPPoE upstream queue reside?

Depeonds on the DSL system, in some cases, it passes the speed information to the CPE device (dsl modem) and it can do the limiting right there, but that usually requires same CPE/DSLAM intergration type thing vs just let the DSL be a bridge and then a normal PPPoE server. Dennis Burgess, CTO,

Re: [AFMUG] CentOS 6.7 or 7?

Yeah, systemd is really the 'biggest' change for many users. You can also disable the 'consistent device naming' for network interfaces if you so desire. Josh On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > The opinions from the list were about evenly divided, so I

Re: [AFMUG] CentOS 6.7 or 7?

Just set it to permissive. It disables the functionality but logs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Justin Wilson - MTIN wrote: > I yank that sucker out of there and disable it.

Re: [AFMUG] CentOS 6.7 or 7?

I yank that sucker out of there and disable it. :-) Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric > On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:29 AM,

[AFMUG] Rocket M365 Intermittent Ping Issue

Hi, I have a Rocket M365 (XM) link (used as a backhaul) that pings very intermittent unless the link is actually being used. Pings are intermittent on the AP side from the router. It would seem like an Ethernet issue, but if I shut off the main link to the tower and actually utilize this

Re: [AFMUG] CentOS 6.7 or 7?

Let's be honest we all set it to permissive... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > Selinux is a PITA. But I think that it's pretty much the same on 6.7 and >

Re: [AFMUG] CentOS 6.7 or 7?

Selinux is a PITA. But I think that it's pretty much the same on 6.7 and 7. bp On 11/16/2015 8:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: The opinions from the list were about evenly divided, so I burned DVDs of both and flipped a coin which came up 7. So far I don’t see what all

[AFMUG] Upgrading SyncPipe Firmware

Apparently I have too much free time on my hands and am going to be updating my syncpipe firmware at our tower sites. I am reading through the packetflux upgrade instructions and am a little confused as to what the process is. Can someone who has done it tell me if this process below is still

Re: [AFMUG] MikroTik Tools for Mac

I do the same. You don't need to include the wine bottler files if you have it installed already. That will cut down your file size quite a bit. Also, the new winbox 3 will upgrade versions for you even if it's bottled up. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 9:01 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Upgrading SyncPipe Firmware

That is only for Rev C pipes. Are you sure that's what you have? But you do not need to do this anymore. 1.10 fixed the Motorola binary message checksum that Canopy version 9 enforced. Shortly after that, they added the option to disable message verification which made the GPS data show up

Re: [AFMUG] all you can eat, not all y'all can eat

I think Jim Gaffigan’s second most famous routine after Hot Pockets is Waffle House: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz1cfwFmv1w From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:14 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] all you can eat, not all y'all can eat I like the hash browns at

Re: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders

I came across a house with 3 of them. Amped Wireless. WiFi was so hosed up it didn’t work at all. Your instincts are correct. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:42 PM To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders Any of you ever

[AFMUG] Anyone cover Lumberton, NC?

Need service for a temporary event.

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

I've had one that tried to tell us how to install the radio -Original Message- From: "Mathew Howard" Sent: ‎11/‎17/‎2015 4:17 PM To: "af" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers Yeah, but what if they're already on the roof? I think

Re: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders

I never recommend them. The only acceptable ‘extender’ scenario I’ve encountered was with Apple router and extender, but the extender was wired back to the router. Can’t see how a wirelessly connected extender is going to help much with speed. Maybe it’s antenna is better than the client

Re: [AFMUG] Question

It is a matter of PCB real estate. From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Question Why not both? On 11/17/2015 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Media converters: Rather have POE or a power connector?

Re: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders

The only situation where I suggest they try a range extender is trying to reach a metal garage or shop building, where they can put the extender in a window facing the house. The upsell from that is a Nanostation PTP link. From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:55 PM To:

[AFMUG] Question

Media converters: Rather have POE or a power connector?

[AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders

Any of you ever come across a house with this many extenders. Sounds like trouble lurking to me. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

I remember one like that. Said it’s not going to work there, the Direct TV guy put a dish there and it didn’t work. Everything I did was wrong, just like every other stupid “contractor” that came out to his house. I was doing it myself on a day that was like zero degrees and the roads were a

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Nope. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 6:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers Did you ever go back and get them going? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

For the definitive commentary, go here (or Google John Oliver Paris Attacks): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glxh9ZgP7kc for “a moment of premium cable profanity”. (NSFW, in case that was not already clear) From: Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 6:11 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders

How big is this house ? I honestly hate the extenders -Original Message- From: "Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc" Sent: ‎11/‎17/‎2015 4:42 PM To: "memb...@wispa.org" ; "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders

Re: [AFMUG] Question

Why not both? On 11/17/2015 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Media converters: Rather have POE or a power connector?

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Did you ever go back and get them going? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers I remember one like that. Said it’s not going to work there, the Direct TV guy put a dish there and it didn’t work.

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*****, Re: 5 Wifi Extenders

6000 sq. I've never seen anything like it. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > I never recommend them. > > The only acceptable ‘extender’ scenario I’ve encountered was with Apple > router and extender, but the extender was

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Yes, I do know…and corrected myself a few moments later. Patrick Leary, Telrad 727-501-3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 4:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français ummm...

Re: [AFMUG] Question

So you're gonna make a fiber to copper media converter in the APC SS card format? :) That would be pretty cool. In that case, I think I'd rather just have a DC input block. On 11/17/2015 6:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: It is a matter of PCB real estate. *From:* George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Some of them will just follow you around no matter what you do... not a lot you can do other than just deal with it. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > hand the customer paperwork or documents to sign or a welcome pamphlet etc. > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Good idea. We had one worry my installer to the point that he was distracted, making mistakes and just about slipped on a loose shingle on the second story roof. Just tell them very matter of fact that they can't do the job with the distraction. It isn't safe. - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

hand the customer paperwork or documents to sign or a welcome pamphlet etc. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Ryan wrote: > Hey everyone, > > > > This past couple of weeks a couple of our installers have been having > issues with installing equipment at a customer’s

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Wait for them to get up on the peak of the roof with you then go back down and "program the radio" in the vehicle until they get back down and then go back up. If they come up again do it all over again. they will get tired of it. Craig - Original Message - From: "Jeremy"

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

I always hated that. I never did anything but deal with it. On 11/17/2015 2:57 PM, Ryan wrote: Hey everyone, This past couple of weeks a couple of our installers have been having issues with installing equipment at a customer�s location (not because it didn�t work, but because the

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Start debating creationism with them. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Some of them will just follow you around no matter what you do... not a > lot you can do other than just deal with it. > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Sean Heskett

Re: [AFMUG] 5 Wifi Extenders

Total trouble. I had one with that many, at least. Their WiFi was so hosed, it wasn't funny. In their defense, they had a difficult U-shaped house that was all stucco (chicken wire embedded). They just didn't know better. When we were done, they were using two APs, and zero extenders. bp

Re: [AFMUG] BitTorrent is not piracy

That is an excellent article! And as much as I hate BitTorrent because of the resources it uses on my network, I am completely in Cox side here. The customer pays for their service, they should be allowed to do what they want with it. Disclaimer: the only time I've heard anything about either

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Wost time is when the caps follows you up into an attic on a 110 degree day. My first thought was what a Stupid cat. My second thought was what the heck am I doing up here today LOL On 11/17/2015 4:13 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I had a cat follow me up the ladder once. *From:* Josh Luthman

[AFMUG] BitTorrent is not piracy

https://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-usage-doesnt-equal-piracy-cox-tells-court-151115/ Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net "If you get

Re: [AFMUG] Upgrading SyncPipe Firmware

To answer your question yes I have some Rev C pipes out there. Can you elaborate on the 1.10 fix I am not following. I do know I have several APs that are not displaying GPS data. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net From:

Re: [AFMUG] Question

I use the router board FTC 11 for fiber to home installs. Nice package. Prefer the POE. Whatever you are doing, make it a switch so it can do 10/100/gigE not strictly a gig media converter. On Nov 17, 2015 6:21 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Media converters: > Rather have POE or

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

try mule tape. fairly cheap & light. we've put a bunch on a extension cord reel. you will need a small weight so when you drop the tape, it doesn't blow in the wind too much. roland > On some towers, water towers and buildings it's a real pain to bring the rope up. I'm wondering if there's some

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

+1. Mule tape used to be pretty expensive. But these days you can get a reel of 500' or even longer very cheaply. And even the "light" versions of it can pull ~~ 2500 lbs. bp On 11/17/2015 7:39 PM, Roland Houin wrote: try mule tape. fairly cheap & light. we've

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

How about this? The last time I read the label I think it said it had a 250 pound test. Josh Luthman wrote: On some towers, water towers and buildings it's a real pain to bring the rope up. I'm wondering if there's some sort of really light rope that would enable us to bring the whole

Re: [AFMUG] BitTorrent is not piracy

Cox is legally right. The problem is that analysis of BitTorrent is that 85% of the traffic on BitTorrent is copyrighted material. If it was a couple percent, it wouldn’t be an issue. However, if you know that 85% of the people in an area are going to commit a crime, the government is saying

Re: [AFMUG] Question

I think it depends on the application. If it is for something that is going to be used at a customer site I think I'd prefer poe, but if it is closer to the core I'd probably prefer a DC input block in most situations. On Tuesday, November 17, 2015, George Skorup wrote: > So

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

Rock climbing ropes...light strong and you can carry them easily. I use them to pull up the heavier work ropes... On Nov 17, 2015 8:39 PM, "Roland Houin" wrote: > try mule tape. > fairly cheap & light. > we've put a bunch on a extension cord reel. > you will need a small

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

How much weight is too much? I have 200 feet of Sterling 3/8 inch diameter Superstatic2 in a small PMI rope bag. According to specs the rope weighs 8.4 lbs and the bag weighs 9 oz, so the total is 9 lbs. The bag has a carrying handle, and at the top you just tie off the rope and toss the

[AFMUG] Mailing list issue.

I'll join the club with mailing list issues. In my case, I had a dns event which made my domain appear not valid for a few hours Tuesday morning. I resolved that issue, and mail has been flowing since then, but nothing from the afmug list. Is there a possibility that amazon saw a bounce and

[AFMUG] Pull line

On some towers, water towers and buildings it's a real pain to bring the rope up. I'm wondering if there's some sort of really light rope that would enable us to bring the whole thing up, drop it, and then pull up a real load rope. My main concern would be weight and size of 200+ feet of even

Re: [AFMUG] Question

And in a cool blue. On Nov 17, 2015 5:35 PM, "Chris Fabien" wrote: > I use the router board FTC 11 for fiber to home installs. Nice package. > Prefer the POE. > > Whatever you are doing, make it a switch so it can do 10/100/gigE not > strictly a gig media converter. > On

Re: [AFMUG] Pull line

We do this all the time. We have cheap-o 200' of white 3/8" from Home Depot or something like that. NOT nylon sheath, that shit sucks. Fits in a regular size climbers canvas bucket. Climber throws it over/down, hook up the block keeping both ends of the load rope on the ground, he pulls it up.

Re: [AFMUG] Upgrading SyncPipe Firmware

Verify GPS Message Checksum. If you have a Rev C pipe on 1.03, just set this to disabled and the GPS data will work again. Assuming you have at least pins 1, 3 & 6 wired on your timing cable. On 11/17/2015 8:38 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: To answer your question yes I have some Rev C pipes

[AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Hey everyone, This past couple of weeks a couple of our installers have been having issues with installing equipment at a customer's location (not because it didn't work, but because the customer is following them absolutely everywhere they go) and it is adding a lot of time/frustration to

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

I often told customers that they were prohibited from using my ladder as it was a liability concern. I welcomed them to put up their own ladder if they wanted to follow on the roof. Typically at least kept them on the ground. Never had anyone challenge me on it. Thank you, Daniel White

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

In some instances ...maybe On Nov 17, 2015 3:17 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Yeah, but what if they're already on the roof? I think pushing them off > would be frowned upon. > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >> I'll stop

Re: [AFMUG] all you can eat, not all y'all can eat

Pseudo-cheese. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > With cheese! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Nov 17, 2015 5:14 PM, "Jaime Solorza" >

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

If they're the type to follow you around, that's very likely to backfire :P On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Jeremy wrote: > Start debating creationism with them. > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> Some of them

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

I've had it happen... they usually don't even bother to ask, they just come up while your back is turned and start annoying you. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Never heard of a customer going up the ladder...that's so weird... > > > Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

I'll stop them...tell them my insurance won't allow it. It might even be true. On 11/17/2015 4:44 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I've had it happen... they usually don't even bother to ask, they just come up while your back is turned and start annoying you. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Yeah, that was bad advice. Don't do that. In reality, I try to remain as amicable as possible, while doing a lot of the up and down the ladder thing. I knock it out fast and move to the next job as quickly as I can. If they are really talkative (as I am), then it starts to take excessive time.

Re: [AFMUG] all you can eat, not all y'all can eat

http://www.mindofachef.com/videos/watch-anthony-bourdains-mind-get-blown-eating-at-the-waffle-house-with-sean-brock/ On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Somehow this seems relevant to sharing your unlimited Internet. (watch > video) > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Never heard of a customer going up the ladder...that's so weird... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Daniel White wrote: > I often told customers that they were prohibited from

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

I had a cat follow me up the ladder once. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers Never heard of a customer going up the ladder...that's so weird... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] all you can eat, not all y'all can eat

I like the hash browns at Waffle House On Nov 17, 2015 2:37 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > > http://www.mindofachef.com/videos/watch-anthony-bourdains-mind-get-blown-eating-at-the-waffle-house-with-sean-brock/ > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

ummm... The Peshmerga is a Kurdish fighting force. There's plenty of armed anti-Taliban / anti-Daesh grous in Afghanistan (Uzbek militias, Panjshiris, etc) but the Peshmerga are not an Afghan group. Very different geographic location, culture and language. On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 4:58 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Installer Issue With Helpers

Yeah, but what if they're already on the roof? I think pushing them off would be frowned upon. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I'll stop them...tell them my insurance won't allow it. It might even be > true. > > On 11/17/2015 4:44 PM, Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] all you can eat, not all y'all can eat

With cheese! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 17, 2015 5:14 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > I like the hash browns at Waffle House > On Nov 17, 2015 2:37 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: