Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
youre in violation of the AUP is the primary point, sales pitch being secondary. Normally I would prefer to say "We have your service address, you let us into your business, you are bothering us, we have pictures from the install to identify the flammable shit, our operations manager happens to

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I would make that whole thing about 1/3 the length, and not put a sales pitch in the same email as a "You are in violation of AUP" stuff. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > is it too obvious this is a sales pitch for a managed

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
is it too obvious this is a sales pitch for a managed Fortigate? Since installation of your internet service, we, as an Internet Service Provider, have received an abnormal number of reports of abusive activity emanating from your service connection. The complaints are primarily spam emails and

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
yeah, its a bar. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Did the OP state the customer was a bar? I missed that. > > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:19 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] abuse

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
Did the OP state the customer was a bar? I missed that. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs It'll break basic functionality. At least in the Pacific Northwest I haven't run into an open coffee shop

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
It'll break basic functionality. At least in the Pacific Northwest I haven't run into an open coffee shop wifi (Blenz, McDonalds, Starbucks, Waves Coffee, and a dozen other competitors) that operates a default-deny filter as you describe. In fact it's even possible to torrent through 95% of them

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
If this is an open WiFi hotspot, why can’t you allow basic web browsing, POP/IMAP, and SMTP port 587 but not 25, and block everything else? I often find that at hotpots I can’t use telnet, SSH, Winbox, etc. Probably can’t connect to destination port 25 either. Heck, most regular ISPs block

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Create like a /26, SWIP it as a description for your same ISP entity, but "Free coffee shop wifi - unauthenticated access" in the description with its own abuse address or whatever, and give the customers /30s inside that. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:17 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
isnt SWIP a minimum /29 though? On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > If it is a customer that operates a open public wifi AP like a coffee > shop, bar, restaurant, there is not a lot that you can do. Customer won't > stop running open wifi, people won't

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If it is a customer that operates a open public wifi AP like a coffee shop, bar, restaurant, there is not a lot that you can do. Customer won't stop running open wifi, people won't stop bringing in infected laptops. No way to find out who has the infected laptops/devices. One possible solution if

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I know its bad practice, I normally enjoy turning customers off, it makes me feel godlike and powerful, alot of times when i get to shut one off i go upstairs and drag mu woman from her bed by her hair to the kitchen to make me a sammich. but for whatever reason i like this customer On Wed, Apr

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding Mimosa backhauls

2016-04-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
Define "NID" On Apr 27, 2016 5:47 PM, "Jaime Fink" wrote: > Our Mimosa Gigabit NID should be out soon too (few weeks). > > For backhaul we don't recommend a separate surge suppressor up on the > tower, there's a surge suppressor GDT circuit inside the B5/B5c (as well as > in our

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3af/at PoE lighting

2016-04-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
Plus you don't need a certified electrician in most jurisdictions, but in some they may have to be low voltage qualified On Apr 27, 2016 8:42 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > well, you only need to put 1 AC outlet wherever the 48-port PoE switch is, > vs running 120VAC

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3af/at PoE lighting

2016-04-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
well, you only need to put 1 AC outlet wherever the 48-port PoE switch is, vs running 120VAC everywhere around a ceiling. So that's a 48:1 ratio at least. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Since you still need AC outlets I can't imagine the

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
we had lost power by the time i got home from the towerand so had the rest of north alabama. i still plan to watch that eight hours of footage starting at 3 pm at some point i mean, i didn't "see" any of it. i was too busy going to downtown trying to find out if my dad's office had

Re: [AFMUG] 802.3af/at PoE lighting

2016-04-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
Since you still need AC outlets I can't imagine the savings would be all that significant. The industry seems to be headed to figuring out how to get the enormous installed base to LED. Since electricians are the Obrien pulling the CAT5 now I can't see how you get the cost down. On Wed, Apr 27,

[AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?

2016-04-27 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
I built a CMM for 2016! Highlights: * Gigabit everything * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices * Sync/Power up to 24 devices * Power 24v and 48v devices * Temperature monitoring * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor *

[AFMUG] 802.3af/at PoE lighting

2016-04-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://www2.cree.com/smartcast-landing-page Would you build it? Seems to make sense, considering the low cost of midspan PoE injectors these days. Or even old 802.3af 100Mbps switches you can get used (Cisco 3560, 3750). One of the neat things about doing PoE lighting is that you could control

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding Mimosa backhauls

2016-04-27 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm using the GigE-PoE with ours (we run almost everything on DC)... which is a better way to go, in my opinion. On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > The Gig-E HV works just fine with Mimosa gear. > > > On Wednesday, April 27, 2016, Jay

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Site Monitor Switch

2016-04-27 Thread George Skorup
Above my pay grade. I'm sure Forrest can tell you why. Probably an internal ground path thing. On 4/27/2016 5:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: George- I understand what you're saying, that's not the issue. Please see attached photo, basically I'm asking why switching the wires on the Site

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding Mimosa backhauls

2016-04-27 Thread Jaime Fink
Our Mimosa Gigabit NID should be out soon too (few weeks). For backhaul we don't recommend a separate surge suppressor up on the tower, there's a surge suppressor GDT circuit inside the B5/B5c (as well as in our PoE if it's being utilized). Definitely attach a proper ground directly to the

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding Mimosa backhauls

2016-04-27 Thread Sean Heskett
+1 On Wednesday, April 27, 2016, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > The Gig-E HV works just fine with Mimosa gear. > > On Wednesday, April 27, 2016, Jay Weekley > wrote: > >> What is a

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread Glen Waldrop
I was south of all of the really bad stuff, north of some of the moderately bad stuff. Damn near lost two family members in that storm. One’s apartment complex survived and the neighbor’s didn’t, the other had moved just a few days prior to her apartment complex being erased. A third was just

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Spam and botnet activity is far more harmful to the health of your network and the IP reputation of your netblocks than anything DMCA related. torrents and DMCA notifications don't hurt the network. Knowingly leaving something that is a repository of virii/worms/trojans online is just bad

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Site Monitor Switch

2016-04-27 Thread George Skorup
C=common NC=normally closed (connected to common when the coil is not energized) NO=normally open (opposite of NC) The SiteMonitor base currently has no internal automatic logic control to toggle the on-board relay when the switch contact is closed. I'm guessing that was your assumption. That

Re: [AFMUG] Grounding Mimosa backhauls

2016-04-27 Thread Jason McKemie
The Gig-E HV works just fine with Mimosa gear. On Wednesday, April 27, 2016, Jay Weekley wrote: > What is a good surge suppression unit for the Mimosa backhauls? Will the > Wireless Beehive Gig-E product work? >

[AFMUG] Grounding Mimosa backhauls

2016-04-27 Thread Jay Weekley
What is a good surge suppression unit for the Mimosa backhauls? Will the Wireless Beehive Gig-E product work?

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Site Monitor Switch

2016-04-27 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Weird, stripped off my PNG attachment? Here's the link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/sitemonitor.png `S -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 2:11 PM To: 'AF Cambium List

[AFMUG] PacketFlux Site Monitor Switch

2016-04-27 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Enclosure with a door relay switch. When the door is open the relay switch turns on a light, and trips the site monitor's switch input to send an alert that the door is open. When the circuit is connected as show in the attached PNG the site monitor always reads the switch input as 1 or

[AFMUG] Beloit

2016-04-27 Thread George Skorup
If anyone can hit the Beloit, WI / South Beloit, IL area, please hit me up off list.

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread Jay Weekley
Or aimed at the sky to hit the satellite. Brian Sullivan wrote: My favorite is when they NAIL the mount back onto the roof (out of alignment).� Or when they re-hang the surge suppressor upside down. On 4/27/2016 12:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Then weeks and months after the storms, people have

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread Jay Weekley
We've paid our dues. George Skorup wrote: We had a very mild winter and a very early spring. I hope it's not like last year all over again. You guys keep all that tornado shit down there. I will have no more of it. On 4/27/2016 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: So I guess the forecast last week

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed spectrum for utility companies

2016-04-27 Thread Wireless Administrator
Here’s more information from one of the major water meter manufacturers: https://www.neptunetg.com/globalassets/products/literature/12-ntg-242-faq-r450-system-09.12.pdf Steve B. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:20 PM

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Its a business, I believe a bar. The connection was for their gaming machines, which have their own fortigate VPN solution behind their router which is a mikrotik. I had to get them set up because their tech screwed up the mikrotik, I told them all I was doing was getting their masquerade and

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread Matt Corcoran
And mount the tripod 120 degrees from how the feet are suppose to lay. From: Af > on behalf of Brian Sullivan > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread Brian Sullivan
My favorite is when they NAIL the mount back onto the roof (out of alignment). Or when they re-hang the surge suppressor upside down. On 4/27/2016 12:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Then weeks and months after the storms, people have roofers and siding contractors come out to do repairs, and: 90% of

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
Then weeks and months after the storms, people have roofers and siding contractors come out to do repairs, and: 90% of the time they call AFTER the roofers have moved or damaged our equipment 10% of the time they call when the roofers show up and want us to come out right now this minute,

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread George Skorup
We had a very mild winter and a very early spring. I hope it's not like last year all over again. You guys keep all that tornado shit down there. I will have no more of it. On 4/27/2016 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: So I guess the forecast last week was accurate? *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller

[AFMUG] Fw: Lifeline Consumer Recertification: Elect USAC by May 2

2016-04-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Not sure if WISPs qualify, but it might be worth trying for since the lifeline program is being expanded to pay for broadband. You may as well get a piece of that action if you can. From: Lifeline Program Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:17 AM To: ch...@directcom.com Subject: Lifeline

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Chuck McCown
We have been renting them out for $8/mo Nice thing is we can totally get in and troubleshoot anything. And the parents can control which devices and which services they allow their kids to use. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
How much is “Compass” to manage it? Any APIs available? Is there a monthly fee per device for Compass? > On Apr 27, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Under $140. Not exactly sure. > > From: Gino Villarini > Sent: Wednesday, April 27,

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Gino Villarini
thanks! ill reach out to Calix or do they have disti? On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > Best router ever! Highly recommend them. > > We sell it as a managed wifi service instead of selling just the router. > Customer pays $99 "setup fee" and $12/mo.

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Sean Heskett
Best router ever! Highly recommend them. We sell it as a managed wifi service instead of selling just the router. Customer pays $99 "setup fee" and $12/mo. Clients love them and so do our support staff. -Sean On Wednesday, April 27, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > We are

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
yep tis the season...hey Lewis B...how you hanging out in your area? winds left but headed back to usold trees are a falling... Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > This is what was

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Under $140. Not exactly sure. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:15 AM To: Animal Farm ; af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways what is the cost of them? Sent from Outlook Mobile On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:04 AM -0700, "Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Gino Villarini
what is the cost of them? Sent from Outlook Mobile On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:04 AM -0700, "Chuck McCown" wrote: I have a pretty large home with aluminum sheeting on the subfloor to help with the hydronic heating.  I have one GigaCenter 844E on the middle

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed spectrum for utility companies

2016-04-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
I believe public utilities do not have to pay for their licenses like commercial two way radio operators and others but I am not sure if that still holds. I think there is a fee for license search and process but it should not be hat expensive for public utilities. I remember a "discussion" I

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I have a pretty large home with aluminum sheeting on the subfloor to help with the hydronic heating. I have one GigaCenter 844E on the middle floor and it covers the whole house. We repeatedly sell out of the things at the office. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:48

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Larry Smith
On Wed April 27 2016 10:48, Gino Villarini wrote: > We are looking for a Home Gateway / Router that supports 802.11AC wifi and > gigabit speeds on the LAN. > I have read that Calix is a good option, what is the cost? Experience with > them or others? All of our fiber is pretty much Calix. Their

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Jesse DuPont
I have an Ethernet GigaCenter I'm about to do some testing with, but a colleague of mine said the GUI of it isn't as mature as traditional residential AC/GigE routers because Calix really wants you to manage it via Consumer Connect - their cloud-based ACS system (TR069).

[AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

2016-04-27 Thread Gino Villarini
We are looking for a Home Gateway / Router that supports 802.11AC wifi and gigabit speeds on the LAN. I have read that Calix is a good option, what is the cost? Experience with them or others?

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed spectrum for utility companies

2016-04-27 Thread Sean Heskett
Cool thanks for all the tips and resources guys. They are amicable to working with us (they don't want any bad press either) so we should be able to work out a solution. I've also forwarded some contacts for license coordinators. Thanks guys! Luckily 900mhz is less than 1% of our customer

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread Chuck McCown
So I guess the forecast last week was accurate? From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today. This is what was happening in my home town..

Re: [AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
this was the morning link, i posted the afternoon link below... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftz5UL8S2Ms - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:24 AM Subject: 5 years ago today. This is what was happening

[AFMUG] 5 years ago today.....

2016-04-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
This is what was happening in my home town.. http://abc3340.com/news/videos/april-27-2011-tornado-touches-down-in-cullman What many people do not know is we had massive straight line winds early that morning (in addition to other tornadoes) and many parts of our state were without power

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-27 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Years ago my mom had internet service from her cableco. She told me the deal was a phone (VoIP) and Internet. I was trying to support her remotely and it was terrible. I called the cableco and she was getting the basic triple play: Basic Cable Phone Internet... 80kbps! I wanted mom to

Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this?

2016-04-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Any local telco that does not provide FTTH has one foot in the grave. From: D. Ryan Spott Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How would you address this? Years ago my mom had internet service from her cableco. She told me the deal was a phone (VoIP)

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
More info please. Is this a business or residential customer? Do they run their own mailserver? And is the static IP at their request or your convenience? (I’m assuming they are not using your mailserver to send their spam.) If it’s a business with their own mailserver, they may

Re: [AFMUG] Tales from the Towers - Chapter 59 Posted

2016-04-27 Thread Rory Conaway
I just write what the voices in my head say…. Seriously, most of the political ranting is about stuff that affects us and if I didn’t let it out, I’d probably go WISPal. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:53 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Rory Conaway
We have them run Malwarebytes and get Symantec Internet Security. If they do that, the problem goes away. If not, we disconnect them until they clean it up. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:10 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Reach out and let them know. Tell them you have been informed that someone is trying to steal their identity, looking to use their debit cards, rapists are viewing pics of the lady of the house online and pedophiles have been interested in molesting their kids. But, hey, you are just letting them

Re: [AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread Jason Wilson
My opinion on it, I am not a lawyer and I have not played one on TV, I am not the internet police. Once the warrant is served then I will worry about it. At which point I will turn over anything addressed in the warrant. Jason. On Apr 27, 2016 7:09 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"

[AFMUG] abuse reports on customer IPs

2016-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We have a particular customer, We have been getting tons of abuse reports on their static IP, I assume we will never be able to wash this sullied IP clean. Theyre not really doing any harm to our network, or impacting others on the network, they are in full breach of our TOS, thats for sure.

Re: [AFMUG] Tales from the Towers - Chapter 59 Posted

2016-04-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
“Grab a Diet Coke and a HoHo”. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 11:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tales from the Towers - Chapter 59 Posted I've got to be honest... It's been awhile since you weren't going on a rant about the FCC or did something that was IMO