Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Rory Conaway
Not even close. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna 900mhz PTP450 doesn't give enough bandwidth? On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:15 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Jeremy
Well 50MHz will do around 400Mbps. I doubt you'll see that on 900MHz with their limited channel width. On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > 900mhz PTP450 doesn't give enough bandwidth? > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Colin Stanners
900mhz PTP450 doesn't give enough bandwidth? On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > I’d like to stay out of jail and I’m pretty sure the U.S. Forestry service > frowns on that. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RB260GS VLAN Still no worky

2017-05-15 Thread Jason McKemie
I believe it is working normally with lower VLAN numbers, I'm using 2 and 4. Having said that, I've only tested it in the lab, I don't have any in the field as of yet. On Monday, May 15, 2017, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Anyone tried VLAN web management access from a remote

[AFMUG] Mikrotik RB260GS VLAN Still no worky

2017-05-15 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Anyone tried VLAN web management access from a remote switch/device yet on the new hardware/v2.2? I can't get it to work for the life of me. It will ping, but never access the web page. I can tag another port on the RB260GS itself and get it on VLAN, but nothing else, not from the SFP where

Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server

2017-05-15 Thread Matt
Do you use Google Apps? If so there is an option to use there smtp relay service. https://support.google.com/a/answer/2956491?hl=en There are a few options to setup. I just specify the IP address of my Mikrotik device I want to allow to send the email. I usually send such alarms to a google

Re: [AFMUG] battery powered wireless test unit

2017-05-15 Thread Matt Corcoran
With the mAmp guage on our pack, it’s obvious if the path is ‘open’. We used the pigtails off old canopy POEs so the Ethernet doesn’t enter the box. From: Af on behalf of David Coudron Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Have you considered the rigging/hoisting and mounting costs of 8' dishes, vs chainsaw or doing something more creative in dish location with 2.5'/3' size dishes to get real LOS? On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > I’ve got to punch through a mile of

Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server

2017-05-15 Thread George Skorup
I have three CentOS machines on the network in an anycast config all doing DNS, SMTP and NTP. I'm old school, so it's BIND and Sendmail. All three have the same local user account/password that the MikroTik's use for SMTP auth. It's not real complicated. On 5/15/2017 2:42 PM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-15 Thread Adam Moffett
The "W" at the end stands for "weather resistant" -- Original Message -- From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/15/2017 4:06:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source I've seen cell co's use it. So... it's fine? On 5/15/2017 2:30 PM, Jason

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-15 Thread George Skorup
I've seen cell co's use it. So... it's fine? On 5/15/2017 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Does the sjoow seem to weather ok exposed on a tower? On Friday, May 12, 2017, George Skorup > wrote: We've used some regular ol' SJOOW.

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-15 Thread Brian Sullivan
Landscape lighting wire is UV rated. 14/2 is less than $.30 /ft. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Southwire-500-ft-14-2-Black-Stranded-Landscape-Lighting-Cable-55213245/202316236 On 5/15/2017 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Does the sjoow seem to weather ok exposed on a tower? On Friday, May 12,

Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server

2017-05-15 Thread Steve Jones
that's probably what ill end up doing, I just hate exposing an open relay, even with the ACL to the public side of a firewall On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:38 PM, David Kunat wrote: > What we do is run a server with postfix as a open relay, except that it is > locked down to

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

2017-05-15 Thread Jason McKemie
Does the sjoow seem to weather ok exposed on a tower? On Friday, May 12, 2017, George Skorup wrote: > We've used some regular ol' SJOOW. 16AWG would probably be fine for a > single eNB, since you can only run 100 meters of ethernet anyway. > > An alternative would be

Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server

2017-05-15 Thread David Kunat
What we do is run a server with postfix as a open relay, except that it is locked down to only accept mail from a whitelist of ip's, which we enter from a web based interface that we wrote so any of the techs can enter it. > On May 15, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server

2017-05-15 Thread Adam Moffett
I don't think you can provide a local smtp server on a Mikrotik. I think you could use a dst-nat rule to point them at another mail server. ip firewall nat add chain=dstnat protocol=tcp dst-port=25 action=dst-nat to-addresses=[your mail server of choice] to-ports=252525 -- Original

Re: [AFMUG] Mother's day fun

2017-05-15 Thread George Skorup
A trade buddy told a tale once. His wife is a total prankster. She has the 5 year-old daughter call dad. Something along the lines of, "Dad, hurry, mommy needs c*ck right now!" He's like whut!? She reiterates. Nope, he didn't hear that wrong. He gets home all ready to be like WTF is wrong

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor enclosures for WS-12-250-DC

2017-05-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Nice clean work!! On May 15, 2017 7:47 AM, "Mitch Koep" wrote: > We face them down so if we get water in the > > cat5 it runs off to the bottom of the enclosure > > and not into the switch. > > Mitch > > On 05/15/2017 08:43 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > > What is the reason for

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, what Mike said is correct - 3dbi increase in antenna gain for every 1dbm decrease in tx power for PtP. so, if you have, say a 24dbi antenna, you can run 24dbm TX power and get 48db EIRP. On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Not for PtP. > > > > - >

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Rory Conaway
There is a 3 to 1 rule on PTP. You can set your power at 29dBi with a 9dBi antenna, 28dBi, 12dBi antenna, and so forth. Since I want a 50MHz channel and the AF24 needs 60dBi or better for that, I can get up to 54dBi or so with that antenna and a little line loss. If you don’t have any

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor enclosures for WS-12-250-DC

2017-05-15 Thread Mitch Koep
We face them down so if we get water in the cat5 it runs off to the bottom of the enclosure and not into the switch. Mitch On 05/15/2017 08:43 AM, Josh Baird wrote: What is the reason for facing them down? On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Not for PtP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mitch Koep" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:44:59 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor enclosures for WS-12-250-DC

2017-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
In the event water gets in the line I'd rather it stay out of the switch. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > What is the reason for facing them down? > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor enclosures for WS-12-250-DC

2017-05-15 Thread Josh Baird
What is the reason for facing them down? On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Am I the only one that finds facing them down infuriating? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor enclosures for WS-12-250-DC

2017-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Am I the only one that finds facing them down infuriating? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: > We always face the ports down and yes, we mount in a

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mike Hammett
2.4's policy is what, every 1 dB decrease in transmit power is a 3 dB increase in allowed EIRP? Decrease Tx power 10 dB, increase EIRP 30 dB? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mitch

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Chuck McCown
That sounds futile. What kind of trees? Can you get any signal through at all with smaller dishes to gauge how well it will work with larger dishes? From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Mitch Koep
Rory Won't that be well over legal limits? Mitch On 05/15/2017 08:23 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor enclosures for WS-12-250-DC

2017-05-15 Thread Darin Steffl
We always face the ports down and yes, we mount in a similar size box like that where it is flat on the backboard. On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > You have the ports facing up? Dang. > > I'm doing similar but the ports are facing down. > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

2017-05-15 Thread Rory Conaway
I’ve got to punch through a mile of trees with AF2x radio so I’m probably going to for the 6’ or 8’ dishes. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 7:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor enclosures for WS-12-250-DC

2017-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
You have the ports facing up? Dang. I'm doing similar but the ports are facing down. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > Hard to find one that is deep enough

Re: [AFMUG] Mother's day fun

2017-05-15 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Read this to my wife. Totally can relate. LoL From: Af on behalf of Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 8:39:50 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mother's day fun Cough cough... hilarious... On May