Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-04-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
in general? Just curious… Thanks, Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Steve…. Do you trust me? Mikrotik all the way, just

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-04-17 Thread Lewis Bergman
*To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Steve…. Do you trust me? Mikrotik all the way, just DO IT! … routerboard.com has all the models. slicker than owl-snot on linoleum floor JOne of the best things we ever did for our network *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-04-17 Thread Josh Luthman
:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Steve…. Do you trust me? Mikrotik all the way, just DO IT! … routerboard.com has all the models. slicker

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-04-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
in general? Just curious… Thanks, Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Steve…. Do you trust me? Mikrotik all the way, just DO

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Steve…. Do you trust me? Mikrotik all the way, just DO IT! … routerboard.com has all the models. slicker than owl-snot on linoleum floor JOne of the best things we ever did for our

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:22:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Now Im thoroughly confused, do you happen to have a link

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations We have a Mikrotik friendly consultant lined up for the BGP implementation. Our purpose in BGP right now is to have versatility among our /24 and our extremely mismatched bandwidth between providers. because we are currently statically routed

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Level 4 does pretty much everything. Level 5 and 6 enable 500/unlimited (from 200) tunnels and more user manager sessions. http://wiki.mikrotik.com/index.php?title=Manual:Licenseredirect=no#License_Levels Is this 2008 or something? I thought everyone had been using Mikrotik for many years. MT

[AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers Is there a sizing chart on these? Is the interface similar between the router models and the switch models? Are the mikrotik switches

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Bill Prince
We do 99% of what we need on MT level 4. You only need level 5 or 6 if you have a bunch of tunnels. Get what you need mainly based on throughput and simultaneous connections. A lowly RB493 easily handles tens of thousands simultaneous connections, and a X86 router probably another order of

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Gabriel Pike
gabrielp...@dmcibb.net 877.936.2422 Ext. 103 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Generally you use x86 for the purchase of a license. That's

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Paul McCall
3:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers Is there a sizing chart on these? Is the interface similar

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers Is there a sizing chart on these? Is the interface similar between

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Generally you use x86 for the purchase of a license. That's where they started their business. Baltic/Titan/etc have their suggested models which are just x86 machines with RouterOS on them already. I'd use these 1000x before I touched ImageStream at tower sites. Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Baltic's x86: http://www.balticnetworks.com/manufacturers/maxxwave/routermaxx-routers-powered-by-mikrotik.html Search MikroNOC here: www.titanwirelessonline.com/category-s/232.htm They have boards and cases ala cate and of course the rb2011 has a board, indoor, rack option - a great product

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
Are you guys saying, you purchase the router OS and put it on third party hardware over using their hardware? What hardware do you find yourselves using, if not routerboard? On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: We do 99% of what we need on MT level 4. You

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Butch Evans
On 03/30/2015 02:26 PM, That One Guy wrote: After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. LOTS of good questions here. My thoughts inline. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers For the most part, if you are purchasing

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
and Engineering MTCNA DMCI Broadband, LLC http://dmcibb.net/ gabrielp...@dmcibb.net 877.936.2422 Ext. 103 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 4:04 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Gabriel Pike
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Generally you use x86 for the purchase of a license. That's where they started their business. Baltic/Titan/etc have their suggested models which are just x86 machines with RouterOS on them already. I'd use these 1000x

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Dennis Burgess
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
and all gigabit, if you are using it as a 1U tower router and don’t need WiFi. RB2011 is smaller and less expensive. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 4:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations My last employer was providing AIrRouters

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Gilbert Gutierrez
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 2:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. I dont fully

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Ty Featherling
Pros/Cons and recomendations Generally you use x86 for the purchase of a license. That's where they started their business. Baltic/Titan/etc have their suggested models which are just x86 machines with RouterOS on them already. I'd use these 1000x before I touched ImageStream at tower sites

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
tel:314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 2:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Baird
: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Generally you use x86 for the purchase of a license. That's where they started their business. Baltic/Titan/etc have their suggested models which are just x86 machines with RouterOS on them already. I'd use these 1000x before I touched

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Adam Moffett
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 4:04 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Generally you use x86

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Mathew Howard
] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Generally you use x86 for the purchase of a license. That's where they started their business. Baltic/Titan/etc have their suggested models which are just x86 machines with RouterOS on them already. I'd use these 1000x before I touched ImageStream

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
877.936.2422 Ext. 103 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 4:04 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Generally you use x86 for the purchase of a license. That's where

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Ty Featherling
*Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 4:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations My last employer was providing AIrRouters for customer premesis. This employer is using RB951. I think there are more DOA's and early failures with the RB951, or at least

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 2:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After poking

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
*Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 2:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers Is there a sizing

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Baird
...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 2:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After poking around at many different

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread That One Guy
to try it yet. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Seems like the RB850Gx2 gets no love? *From:* Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 6:57 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations We have

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Luthman
, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 2:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Baird
: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations We have a ton of 450G's out in the field at towers for smaller sites. We also typically use the 450G as a 'managed router' solution for dedicated business customers. Backhauls go

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Erich Kaiser
:* Monday, March 30, 2015 6:57 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations We have a ton of 450G's out in the field at towers for smaller sites. We also typically use the 450G as a 'managed router' solution for dedicated business customers. Backhauls go

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Seems like the RB850Gx2 gets no love? From: Josh Baird Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations We have a ton of 450G's out in the field at towers for smaller sites. We also typically use the 450G as a 'managed router

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
a performance boost. From: That One Guy Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 7:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Now, see this leads back to confusion for me, that product is listed as just a routerboard. I assume this is so you can use your own

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Baird
Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 2:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-03-30 Thread Butch Evans
On 03/30/2015 06:06 PM, That One Guy wrote: Regarding their line of switches, Im conflicted here, if I stick to using them as a switch is the consensus that they are good or bad? CRS as a switch, is good. CRS with VLANs is good, but truly a convoluted configuration, but is not too far from