Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor

For some reason this thread reminded me of G line... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor Local hippies will go nuts if we start drilling many dozens

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r support and > zip tie the cables to it. Better yet lash it. > > *From:* Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:21 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor > > Now to figure out how

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Squirrels will love their new superhighway. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor Aerial. Use drive hooks in trees. Run a messenger strand for support and zip tie the cables to it. Better yet

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Aerial. Use drive hooks in trees. Run a messenger strand for support and zip tie the cables to it. Better yet lash it. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor Now to figure out how

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don't want to do >>>> twice. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Use isolation transformers. And call it a speaker wire.

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..@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Use isolation transformers. And call it a speaker wire. You are >>> sending a loud 60 cycle tone. >>> >>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06,

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fg.com>> wrote: >> >> Use isolation transformers. And call it a speaker wire. You are >> sending a loud 60 cycle tone. >> >> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:10 AM >> *

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uh...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:10 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor Yeah, can't do either of those... Burying it to Canadian electrical code compliant depth through 700 meters (22

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..@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:10 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor > > Yeah, can't do either of those... Burying it to Canadian electrical code > compliant depth through 700 meters (2296 ft) of fo

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Use isolation transformers. And call it a speaker wire. You are sending a loud 60 cycle tone. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor Yeah, can't do either of those... Burying it to Canadian

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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 10:29 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor > > It's looking like $0.25/ft for the cable and the singlemode fiber is > less... Also the area is totally filled with trees, trees cannot be cut > for v

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af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor It's looking like $0.25/ft for the cable and the singlemode fiber is less... Also the area is totally filled with trees, trees cannot be cut for various reasons, it's the side of a bluff on a

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240 AC over direct burial romex. All the power you might want. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor It's looking like $0.25/ft for the cable and the singlemode fiber is less... Also the area

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It's looking like $0.25/ft for the cable and the singlemode fiber is less... Also the area is totally filled with trees, trees cannot be cut for various reasons, it's the side of a bluff on a hilltop. Branches and a few things in one particular direction (about 10 degrees of azimuth) would be cut

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I have run lotsa direct burial romex over the ground to do things like this. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 9:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor That's more in $/ft than 14-2 UF-NMC cable, which I am seeing at $0.25/ft from

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For that amount of cable, at 50 cents a foot, I would probably do a small solar setup. What is the latitude? bp On 7/5/2016 4:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Due to terrain I'm helping somebody design a network link where a PTP radio will go on the side of a tree on

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That's more in $/ft than 14-2 UF-NMC cable, which I am seeing at $0.25/ft from the local Platt electric before any discounts are applied... On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Jason Wilson wrote: > I also would go the conduit route BUT if you were to go with your >

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Who needs a permit. Just one long extension cord. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 7:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor It does need to stay "low voltage" because there is no practical/economical way to get an electri

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I also would go the conduit route BUT if you were to go with your original plan I would use landscape wire http://www.lowes.com/pd/100-ft-16-Gauge-2-Conductor-Landscape-Lighting-Cable/21006 Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.

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I would recommend conduit at least. We have trouble with exposed cat5 getting chewed on by critters when we lay it through the woods. It'd be a bit of labor to pull it through but much more protection. You could do flat drop fiber and save enough cost over armored to pay for the conduit. On Tue,

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It does need to stay "low voltage" because there is no practical/economical way to get an electrical permit to run 600-700 meters of code-compliant 240VAC through this particular section of forest. Interestingly, looking at $/ft prices for cable I have found that 3-conductor 14 gauge UF-NMC (2 +

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I would also run 240V AC out there, not DC. Unless you are needing to stay "low voltage" for permit/licensing reasons. On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: > I would use 14-2 UF cable, direct buried next to the fiber, or pulled into > conduit with the fiber

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I would use 14-2 UF cable, direct buried next to the fiber, or pulled into conduit with the fiber if you are doing conduit. That's going to be much cheaper than SOOW type rubber jacket cable, or pretty much any other options. 1000ft spool costs us about $250, and there are direct bury splice kits

[AFMUG] Practical/low-cost 18AWG copper outdoor

Due to terrain I'm helping somebody design a network link where a PTP radio will go on the side of a tree on the opposite side of a mountain from where AC power, a router and other network equipment is located. We're looking at 600 to 700 meters of singlemode fiber and a small NEMA4X junction box