On 5/31/2020 9:33 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:08 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 5/31/2020 8:46 AM, nch wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 31, 2020 10:27:55 AM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> wrote:
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:39 AM Rebecca wrote:
On 5/31/2020 8:46 AM, nch wrote:
> On Sunday, May 31, 2020 10:27:55 AM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:39 AM Rebecca wrote:
>>> Sorry, I intend with 3 Agoran consent to host a Free Tournament with the
>>> following Regulations (i fixed a typo)
>>
>> I
On 5/31/2020 7:44 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On 5/31/2020 7:00 AM, Rebecca wrote:
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:56 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 9:47 AM Rebecca wrote:
Curiosity question, which win name do you get for winning by ribbons? I
On 5/31/2020 7:00 AM, Rebecca wrote:
> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:56 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 9:47 AM Rebecca wrote:
>>>
>>> Curiosity question, which win name do you get for winning by ribbons? I
>>> know G. won that way last year but I don't know
On 5/28/2020 10:07 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
>>
>> Well in the great majority of chess games these days, someone would be
> unable to move a knight incorrectly because the game was played online and
> therefore the program would simply not move the piece.
>
Yes, I totally agree -
On 5/28/2020 9:42 AM, Nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> If I accidentally moved a knight wrong and neither of us noticed until a move
> or two later, I broke the rules. But did I cheat? I don't think so. That's
> the distinction I'm trying to draw.
>
One of the issues is that we don't
On 5/28/2020 9:14 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> isn't law in real life exactly this though? there are plenty of things like
> littering that people often do (and attract relatively small consequences)
> that are just as illegal under law as, say, murder.
>
Sure, that's why you
On 5/27/2020 2:48 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:44 PM James Cook wrote:
>>
>>> *7831 Alexis 3.0 Vigilante Justice
>>> The full creation of the cards system of justice (many pieces of which
>>> remain in the Referee rules).
>>
>> That was an
On 5/27/2020 10:37 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> *7811 ais523 1.0 Winning by apathy
>
> *7831 Alexis 3.0 Vigilante Justice
It's interesting to reflect on these two and the context of hindsight.
Vigilante Justice was a full-fledged justice system that used the "card"
metaphor (in the
On 5/26/2020 6:51 PM, Rebecca wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 4:32 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>> lol I'm probably voting against anything R. Lee proposes for the next
>> couple months anyway because e didn't let me keep a zombie. :P
>>
>> didn't I?
>
This was you right?
On 5/24/2020 5:34 PM,
On 5/27/2020 9:04 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 1/12/2020 6:00 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> We haven’t awarded Silver Quills for any year since 2015. 2019’s awards
>>> will be dealt with in this year’s
Publius wrote:
> WILL: The person CAN once by announcing and SHALL within a week do so.
I agree that "by announcing" isn't a replacement for the "by announcement"
term of art.
Murphy wrote:
> WILL: CAN and SHALL by announcement.
For my contest, I don't think it "clearly captures the
On 5/26/2020 5:14 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Obviously, answering all of these questions is a lot of work and the
>> goal of my thesis, but if anything quickly comes to mind, I'd
>> appreciate any contributions.
One thing just occurred to me. I've never seen this option
On 5/26/2020 4:47 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> Misrepresentation is a risk but c'est la vie. I think there's even
> some risk of that in my current weekly summaries.
>
My favorite stories are when it ends up totally different from whatever my
perception of events was.
On 5/25/2020 8:14 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 10:08:54 PM CDT Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
>> I create the following proposal (we need these sometimes, 4fun)
>>
>> Title: Voltaire, Lottery Scammer
In terms of "fun", last couple times we did some actual
On 5/25/2020 6:06 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> Reenact Rule 1365, "External Opinions" at power-1.7 with the following text:
> A player CAN submit an External Concurring or Dissenting opinion
> for a given CFJ decision, decided in the past week, with 1 Support.
>
On 5/25/2020 12:41 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> I wanted to send along a small snippet of the economy thesis I'm working on
> to
> get feedback. My main questions are
>
> 1) What kind of information does everyone want for each economic system and
Your two examples are an interesting
On 5/24/2020 4:25 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> I submit the following proposal.
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Title: Backup Conservatism
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Aris
> Co-author(s): Murphy, nch, G.
>
I do not wish to be a co-author of this proposal. thanks.
On 5/22/2020 3:00 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>
> I wasn't proposing building it into the auction rules. I was saying
> that we should create a type of asset that is tied to a switch.
>
Proto: keys
Create the following rule, Keys:
If the rules associate an action with
First Proto for an auction overhaul (not really much shorter than current
version should we golf this? :) )
Auctions generally:
The Block is an entity. Any asset that CAN be owned by Agora CAN
be owned by the block. A lot is a non-empty list of assets that
belong to the block.
No problem with non-ascii - Welcome, Bögtil!
On 5/22/2020 1:14 PM, Stefan Fjellander via agora-discussion wrote:
> Bögtil, if non-ascii is ok? elsewise Bogtil
>
>
> Den fre 22 maj 2020 kl 22:00 skrev Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> agora-discussion :
>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:43
On 5/22/2020 12:09 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:08 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>>
>> Rule 2551:
>> An Auction ends 7 days after its initiation, or immediately if no
>> bid has been placed or withdrawn in the last 96 hours, or
>> immediately if it is
Rule 2551:
An Auction ends 7 days after its initiation, or immediately if no
bid has been placed or withdrawn in the last 96 hours, or
immediately if it is terminated.
Since no bid can be made until the auction starts (that's in R2550), then
on the instant after it starts, the
On 5/22/2020 7:22 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> I know I said I didn't want to get bogged down in design choice debates but
> since the auction portion has to be rewritten (and it looks like the rewrite
> might be more complex than I thought), I wanted to get some feedback.
>
> As far
On 5/21/2020 6:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 5/21/2020 5:57 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
WILL: The person CAN by announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, act
On 5/21/2020 5:57 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>> WILL: The person CAN by announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, act as
>> described.
>>
>> OR
>>
>> WILL: The person CAN and SHALL act as described.
>>
>> OR EVEN
>>
>>
On 5/21/2020 5:10 PM, grok via agora-discussion wrote:
> I'm not 100% convinced that having a hybrid keyword is necessary when two
> non-hybrid keywords effectively explain it and it only comes up in the
> rules once, but I think it makes enough sense if WILL gets further use in
> the rules
On 5/21/2020 4:55 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>
> I like the idea of having something fill this role, but I’m not sure that
> WILL is an intuitive option. Why did you choose WILL?
>
Open to any options, the shorter the better. Usage justification: if you
say to someone you
Proto: Agora Willing
Amend Rule 215 (Mother, May I?) by appending:
9. WILL: The person CAN perform the described action by
announcement once after the specified conditions occur, and
SHALL do so in a timely fashion after the specified conditions
occur.
[Sample
Ok I've been through this a few times - specifically mentioning technical
flaws only (not game-balance)...
On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> Cards are a type of asset with a corresponding Product. Products are
> also assets. The types of Cards and their
On 5/21/2020 2:42 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:23:25 PM CDT Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
>>> The Treasuror is the auctioneer for this auction, and may order the
>>> lots
>>> as e chooses. The
On 5/21/2020 2:28 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:13:43 PM CDT Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
>>> Once a week the Treasuror CAN and SHOULD initiate an auction. The
>>
>>> auction has the following lots:
>>
On 5/21/2020 2:21 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/21/20 5:18 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Not the sort of danger I prefer, it just leads to messes.
>>
>> Especially because, the way I'm reading it, the lots must include a single
>>
On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> The Treasuror is the auctioneer for this auction, and may order the lots
> as e chooses. The minimum bid for this auction is 1 coin.
I'm afraid this part *is* broken though. I'm sure Trigon isn't cool with
being the auctioneer
On 5/21/2020 2:12 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:02 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
>>> * all of any single type of asset currently own by the Lost and Found
>>> Department, if any.
>>
>>
On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> Once a week the Treasuror CAN and SHOULD initiate an auction. The
> auction has the following lots:
This means the Treasuror will frequently have multiple auctions running at
once - Trigon have you weighed in on that pacing?
On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> * all of any single type of asset currently own by the Lost and Found
> Department, if any.
I'm concerned about allowing the hijacking and auction of literally any
asset (including contract assets or whatever) that end up in
On 5/21/2020 9:32 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> Sometimes I think it'd be interesting if we more often did gamestate
> changing proposals with little to no rule changes in them. For instance
> we could do things like:
>
> "Destroy all coins in every players possession. For each player, e
On 5/21/2020 8:59 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/21/20 6:59 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>>
>> For this
>> decision, the vote collector is the Judge, the options are GUILTY,
>> NOT GUILTY, REJECT, and PRESENT, and the
On 5/20/2020 2:49 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 01:31, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>>> On May 19, 2020, at 21:27, nch wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:07:27 PM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> wrote:
I vote REMAND.
>>>
>>>
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:45 PM James Cook wrote:
> > > I had been under the impression that the current case of CFJ 3831 is
> > > sort of like that, since I don't remember people disagreeing with the
> > > judgement until somewhat later.
> >
> > Yes the main issue was there wasn't a peep of
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:07 PM James Cook via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Why the third requirement? What if someone notices a problem with a
> judgement 10 days after it's assigned, and there was no motion to
> reconsider?
The idea is a fixed progression: first you remand via a motion to give
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:06 AM grok wrote:
> I would like to be added to the judging pool
>
> -grok
The judge of the excellent CFJ 3514 is welcomed back to the bench.
On 5/19/2020 2:56 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:48:20 PM CDT you wrote:
>> I don't like this idea. The history of this provision is that I gave a CFJ
>> judgement essentially establishing something like this. Everyone
>> (especially G.) thought it was a
On 5/18/2020 2:05 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> I don't really like "Registror". Notory somehow looks nicer to me.
> Also, according to Wiktionary, it's an old word meaning "Pertaining to
> magical signs or symbols", which seems appropriate since the texts of
> Agoran contracts
On 5/19/2020 5:08 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> My biggest concern here is that the budgets will get set wrong, we'll
> run out of money for something important half way through the quarter,
> and then suddenly there will be no pay for officers or judges or
> whatever for the
On 5/19/2020 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:26 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>> 3. This far too much mess to do monthly IMO, you'd barely sort out one
>> before it was time to do the next. Might I suggest quarterly?
>
>
> I don't understand why. I think the confusion
On 5/19/2020 4:01 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> (There are also fee-based actions. I don't know if we have any right
> now other than winning under R2483. Also, Agora currently CAN transfer
> zombies to their owners, which is not done by announcement.)
Also:
Initiating Agoran
On 5/17/2020 10:38 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> The Prime Minister's Budget Regulations may set the tax rate, R,
> a rational percentage value defaulting to 0%. The Registrar's Budget
> Regulations may set the personal withholding, W, an integer defaulting to
> twice
On 5/17/2020 3:28 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>
> Karma Entity
> - --
>
> +7 Jason
Don't think this needs a CoE but you've lost the Shogun marker.
On 5/16/2020 8:59 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> Breaking a pledge is a crime. A pledge has a time window when after that
> the pledge stops existing.
>
> But a pledge exists that says "I will cause cuddlebeam to win agora within
> 90 days." That pledge is unenforceable because it
On 5/16/2020 11:13 PM, Rebecca wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 3:20 PM Aris Merchant wrote:
>> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 9:49 PM Rebecca wrote:
>>>
>>> I intend with 4 support to enter CFJ 3831 into moot
>>> Link: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3831
>>
>> I support. We don't
Proto: Sets side-game
[nch didn't name an officer for Sets I'm going to use "Dealor" here].
Enact the following Rule, "Setting the Table":
Chits are a currency tracked by the Dealor, ownable by Players.
The Jack's Hand, the Queen's Hand, and the King's Hand are each
On 5/16/2020 4:08 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> This is IRRELEVANT to the game state now and should be so judged
That would be an appropriate choice, but wanted to give the judge the
option of figuring out (for future reference) if that statement passes the
"possibility of game
On 5/15/2020 7:58 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:48 PM Edward Murphy wrote:
>> G. wrote:
>>> Well e's not using a random strange word like Quang, either. To "refer"
>>> a proposal to chamber" seems similar enough to me (in common usage terms of
>>> refer) to "set the
On 5/16/2020 1:24 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> So if this current case isn't IRRELEVANT, for reasons of being directly
> and trivially answerable from a past CFJ, then that triviality clause is
> pretty meaningless. In terms of R217 tests concerning the definition of
> "trivial" in this context,
On 5/15/2020 3:01 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> * "I create/submit/etc. a proposal, and I specify each of the
> following properties: [shorthand]" ("create" and "specifying" are
> separate verbs, so the creation is phrased as two speech acts)
I disagree with this bit.
On 5/15/2020 10:13 AM, James Cook wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:40, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant wrote:
>>>
>>> Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to set its chamber
>>> switch to that chamber.
>>
>>
>> I CFJ "In a generic Agoran
On 5/14/2020 7:39 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> If it's not too much trouble, could you link that judgement in another form
> when you distribute this CFJ (at least if you give it to me)
>
Yes no worries I was thinking that while I had it on hand I'd add it to
the database.
On 5/14/2020 12:44 PM, nch wrote:
> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:39:04 PM CDT Aris Merchant wrote:
>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 PM Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> Definition: To refer a proposal to a chamber is to set its chamber
>>> switch to that chamber.
>>
>> I CFJ "In a generic Agoran context,
On 5/14/2020 11:48 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> So, the MUD appears to have flopped. The primary reason is that I
> didn't do anything past setting it up, which is totally on me.
> Anything one else have thoughts or analyses?
>
> -Aris
>
Visited twice I think? Didn't see
On 5/14/2020 7:44 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Eh, not so much ripping off as a perennial discussion point - whether
> blots are seen as genuine cheating/taboos to be avoided, versus being
> acceptable penalties accumulated during game play, is a pendulum that's
> gone back and forth a few times I
On 5/14/2020 12:14 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/14/20 1:06 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>>
>> On 5/14/2020 12:00 AM, Reuben Staley wrote:
>>> On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch wrote:
>>>> Well that's an easy fix. We just need
On 5/14/2020 12:00 AM, Reuben Staley wrote:
> On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:42:08 PM CDT you wrote:
>>> For blog-b-gones, I'd think we'd want 1, maybe 2 a week? I mean, we only
>>> blot people like once a month anyway...?
>>>
>>> -Aris
>>
>> Well that's an easy
On 5/13/2020 10:47 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> Okay, I've been working at this in whatever time I could steal for the
> last few days, and it's finally here! Behold my draft report!
Thanks! Missing "Restraining Motions":
On 5/13/2020 3:52 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> Also interested in suggestions for other ways to receive cards. There
> shouldn't be too many, because too many different ways will reduce incentive
> to
> trade. But making different cards obtainable in different flavorful ways
>
On 5/13/2020 2:36 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:48:49 PM CDT nch via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere.
>>
>> Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset:
>> * Pending
On 5/13/2020 1:48 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere.
>
> Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset:
> * Pending Tickets
> * Extra Votes
> * Blot-B-Gone
> * Victory Points
>
> Every player starts
On 5/13/2020 1:20 PM, Reuben Staley wrote:
> On 5/13/20 2:04 PM, nch wrote:
>> The equivalent in Agora would be to have several desirable assets and either
>> 1) restrict who can generate/get each asset without trading or 2) make
>> generating/getting them an investment where players are
On 5/13/2020 6:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> Here are a few draft proposals to give coins some more uses. For now,
> they aren't particularly strong and are designed to still allow
> actions if there are bugs, but with time those protections could be
> removed.
So, we've tried
On 5/12/2020 7:21 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/12/20 10:12 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
>> I'm happy to have others do it too, but there should be some
>> coordination so we don't end up with two people working on summaries
>> for the same week. (Maybe the
On 5/11/2020 12:00 PM, Reuben Staley wrote:
> I think that there's a problem subdividing time periods in Agora.
> There's not always a clear date where a certain era started and ended.
> PAoaM, for instance, entered drafting in November 2017 and was finally
> enacted in February 2018, but was
On 5/11/2020 7:49 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On 5/11/2020 7:28 AM, nch wrote:
>> I'm going to re-arrange CB's original message a little bit because I think
>> it
>> makes more sense to respond to those points in that order.
>>
>> On Monday, May 11, 2020 3:55:24 AM CDT Cuddle Beam via
On 5/11/2020 7:28 AM, nch wrote:
> I'm going to re-arrange CB's original message a little bit because I think it
> makes more sense to respond to those points in that order.
>
> On Monday, May 11, 2020 3:55:24 AM CDT Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote:
>> To FURTHER show how a
On 5/8/2020 2:51 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/8/20 5:39 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>> The Notary CAN flip a contract's donation level to a non-default
>> value with 3 Agoran consent, provided e has not done so for any
&g
Falsifian wrote:
> So, the idea is that if there's someone good work that should be
> funded, but that shouldn't be a permanently rules-defined office, the
> Agoran public could vote to fund their venture.
Proto
-
Enact the following rule, Charities:
Donation Level is a natural switch
On 5/8/2020 9:36 AM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> On 5/8/20 12:04 PM, Rebecca wrote:
>> The problem with economic rewards of that sort, of course, is that the
>> economy has NO VALUE WHATSOEVER right now. the time i had the most fun in
>> this game and it was most active was the broken boom/bust economy
On 5/8/2020 9:13 AM, nch wrote:
> On Friday, May 8, 2020 11:01:07 AM CDT Rebecca wrote:
>>> I have never once got any value out of any form of the newspapers (well
>>
>> except the ones I intentionally published with no text to get paid lol),
>> mainly because it's actually a lot easier to catch
On 5/7/2020 6:32 AM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
> Oh yes, that in 2166 will do it. Fine, I retract my two most recent CFJs
> and destroy my most recent contract. I could just re-CFJ the original CFJ
> with slightly different magic words phrasing but that would risk
> IRRELEVANCE (for
On 5/7/2020 6:30 AM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:26 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On 5/7/20 3:32 AM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
>>> I create a contract with the following text
>>>
>>> "Any player
On 5/7/2020 12:28 AM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote:
> I create a contract with the following text
>
> "Any player may become a party to this contract. Any party to this
> contract may act on behalf of R. Lee to trasnfer one coin away from em to
> emselves. The previous sentence is void
On 5/6/2020 1:20 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 1:28 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On 4/25/2020 12:48 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> === CFJ 3828
>>
On 5/6/2020 12:46 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On 5/6/2020 12:12 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote:
>> 3. Therefore, if a rule says "a player earns a coin" but does not say who,
>> then Rule 217 calls on us to apply its four factors to answer the question
>> of who earns the coin.
>
> Ok
On 5/6/2020 12:12 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2020, 14:36 Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> Is indeterminacy a concept in mathematical logic? I've never heard of it.
>
I think the closest mathematical equivalent is whatever term you use when
you have 3 unknowns and
On 5/6/2020 12:12 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote:
> 3. Therefore, if a rule says "a player earns a coin" but does not say who,
> then Rule 217 calls on us to apply its four factors to answer the question
> of who earns the coin.
Ok - I've got another set of counter-counter
On 5/6/2020 10:44 AM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote:
> You seem to be saying that it's possible for a value to be unambiguous
> despite being indeterminate. That sounds impossible to me; that obviously
> contradicts the meaning of the word "unambiguous".
Ambiguous and indeterminate
On 5/6/2020 4:56 AM, Tanner Swett wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2020, 01:29 Rebecca wrote:
>
>> Indeterminacy is different to "ambiguity". The indeterminacy here arises
>> from the inability to determine the location of a certain game asset,
>> rather than lack of clarity in the text of the rules of
On 5/5/2020 7:04 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/5/20 7:53 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>> I can see your point too and can think of some arguments in support of
>> it... might be borderline enough for its own CFJ, or maybe up to the
&g
On 5/5/2020 6:30 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-05-05 at 19:03 -0600, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 5/5/20 6:45 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> Rule 2553: “If a CFJ about the legality or possibility of a game
>>> action”
>>>
>>> CFJ 3828: “A
On 5/4/2020 11:03 AM, Nch wrote:
>
> Any feedback is appreciated. My ultimate goal is two documents:
>
> * A description of the various economies and if feasible, a taxonomy
> based on them.
>
> * A document outlining Do's and Dont's of Agoran economies based on the
> successes and failures of
On 5/3/2020 9:39 PM, Nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Sunday, May 3, 2020 11:35 PM, Nch via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
>> I'm working on something related to economic systems in Agora. Anyone happen
>> to have records (or a good memory) of various
On 5/3/2020 3:22 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> -1 G. (I think this reaction was wildly overblown)
*sigh*
I mean, not to escalate or anything, but someone abused a rule, that
others generally hadn't abused for a good long while, which led to the
need to patch a useful Arbitor's
On 5/3/2020 12:02 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 2:31 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> I submit the following proposal, "Restraining Motions", AI-3:
>>
>>
>> Amend Rule 2496 (Rewards) by
On 4/26/2020 5:24 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> THEREFORE, LET IT BE KNOWN that we, with 2 Agoran Consent,
> hereby bestow the Patent Title Silver Quill 2019 upon G;
Thanks, all... the Ritual rule came from a discussion thread that someone
else started on collective punishment
On 5/2/2020 4:03 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote:
> For each of the following players, I intend, with notice, to flip eir
> instance of the Master switch to Agora.
> * Tcbapo (last public message February 7)
> * twg (last public message March 2)
> * Cuddle Beam (last public message March
On 4/26/2020 2:53 AM, Rebecca wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 6:28 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>> I deliver the following judgement for CFJ 3828:
>>
>
> easiest win ever
lol it was totally not the decision I was expecting to make when I started
writing (I thought I was going to end up on "it all
On 4/26/2020 8:26 AM, ais523 wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-04-25 at 22:30 -0400, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 16:55, ais523 wrote:
>>> Experience from BlogNomic is that many players apparently value
>>> causing a win to happen, even if it's some other player that
>>> actually gets the
On 4/25/2020 11:51 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 11:11 PM Alexis Hunt wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 01:43, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>
>>> [I'm attempting to replicate, as nearly as possible, the 2 Agoran
>>> Consent requirement for awarding the patent title. Unless there is
On 4/25/2020 11:51 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> Rereading the rule, it seems the Arbitor CAN make an intent for
> whoever e wants; the restriction on doing it for the judge of the CFJ
> is a should. So I guess maybe we should go that route? I'm tired and
> can't think ATM,
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