Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

The lies were not the same every time though (for example: I am Uruguayan). They were in the form "in the next sentence, I will do something). So they were seperate. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 9:53 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > i copied and pasted 3,000 lies, yes. they were the same lie,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

The basis is there are some kind of violations that are truly impossible to take back. E.g. if it's against the rule to reveal some secret information, and you reveal it, you can't undo that. Once you have that base case (situation where it's impossible to take something back), it's easy to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

I have found one, linked here: https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED147/55942c3c5fa5b.jpeg A mentor of mine has added the following text when showing it: This is like my dog. He brings a smile to my face, but I have to kick him down the stairs, then he rolls down, but otherwise he does

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

Really guys? The rule says "a penalty between 1 shiny and the greater of 25 shinies and the amount the bad sport profited from the infraction". We can do it. On 2017-11-23 10:07, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: No it is not. The rule says we may levy a fine between 1 and 25 shinies.

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

You SHOULD make it a SHOULD not a SHALL. That is how other emotion things have been done. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Corona wrote: > > That was intended to be the point; you could choose

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Arguments: Blue Cards states "The person issuing a Blue Card must, in the same message, announce a penalty between 1 shiny and the greater of 25 shinies and the amount the bad sport profited from the infraction,". It is impossible to tell whether a penalty is between an amount in shinies and an

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 18:49 VJ Rada wrote: > Good, I'm glad o. This Blue Card is legal, but the penalty is not > effective. I call an urgent CFJ with the statement: A blue card can > only have a penalty imposed in shinies. > > Alexis and PSS are and should be obviously

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Why does it take me a few minutes to receive messages D: Whatever, Alexis beat Rada to the punch anyway. On 2017-11-23 10:51, Telnaior wrote: With the support of myself and ATMunn, I Levy the Fine. I then act on behalf of VJ Rada to transfer the favours according to the fine's distribution.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Because it has to go through the Agora mail server. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Madeline wrote: > > Why does it take me a few minutes to receive messages D: > Whatever, Alexis beat Rada to the punch

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

I certainly can't keep up. There are messages left and right here. On 11/22/2017 7:01 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Yes, I am supposed to be at a party tonight, but am claiming to be sick, sick with the nomic bug. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

Yes, I am supposed to be at a party tonight, but am claiming to be sick, sick with the nomic bug. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Holy frick, why is everyone on at the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

H. arbitor G., could you assign the blue card CFJ to me ASAP? It would be nice to get some closure on this. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:59 PM ATMunn wrote: > Wait nevermind, maybe e didn't. > > On 11/22/2017 6:57 PM, ATMunn wrote: > > The transfer failed, as Alexis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

The rule is pretty broken though tbh. Imagine if Alexis had decided to fine me 2 pledges (which are an asset). Are 2 pledges between 1 shiny and 3,000 favours? On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Madeline wrote: > And it's not even REMOTELY impossible to tell the relative value,

DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

On 2017-11-23 12:17, ATMunn wrote: It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. I hereby declare that this message is a scam. Proposal draft: Any player can Attempt to Scam by announcement. Only one Attempt to Scam may be ongoing at a time. After an Attempt to Scam, any player can Resolve the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

As do I. On 11/22/2017 8:51 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I support this idea. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote: On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Would this work?

>But this wouldn't work in the same way that the Registrar need not track >contract-defined switches. The reason the Registrar need not track such switches is that switches are defined as within the rules. Duties can be imposed by non-rule things. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:31 PM, VJ Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

NttPF Greetings, Ørjan. On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 16:45 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: Is it worth CFJing then? It's certainly intended to be the former, and the serial comma is only required in lists, right? -Aris

DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

Oops, sorry :_: -- Trigon On Nov 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Kerim Aydin" wrote: > > > I designate o to be next week's silly person. (week starting Nov 27th). > > > [If I missed a Silly action last week, my apologies. But I think Aris > (on Sun 12th) appointed Trigon to be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Also, I don't think they were intended to actually mislead players, which is one of the requirements for a faking violation. You could not have thought that anyone was actually going to believe them, so no violation would have occurred. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:53 PM, VJ Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Okay, thanks for the explanation, but I still say anyone who wants to bring any kind of politics into Agora in anything other than a fun, light-hearted, joking, and non-demeaning way should pack their bags and get lost. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com

DIS: Campaign proposal proto

Well, I felt uncomfortable not having a Campaign Proposal if PSS is going to have one, so... I'd rather if y'all checked it for obvious holes, since it looks like it can't be retracted once announced. The idea was that since the Herald, among other things, manages the celebrations, he could have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

Holy frick, why is everyone on at the same time and able to respond to me literally seconds after each other? Is it due to this game that's happening? On 11/22/2017 4:45 PM, Madeline wrote: Not you! >_< On 2017-11-23 10:43, Reuben Staley wrote: This entire conversation went way over my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

But what if it would? On 11/22/2017 7:08 PM, VJ Rada wrote: You know I actually have a completely legal way that may well work and be able to get infinite favours. It would be unethical to do it (I promised Cuddlebeam to keep it secret) but wouldn't it be funny if I did it? (The answer to

Re: DIS: test message please ignore

On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 11:45 +1100, Madeline wrote: > > Telnaior| > > 天火狐 | > > Trigon | > > > Telnaior| > > 天火狐 | > > Trigon | > > > Telnaior| > > 天火狐 | > > Trigon | According to the Unicode standards, the vast majority of Japanese characters

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

Yeah, I agree. I think PSS was just joking around, though. On 11/22/2017 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it looks like to me. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

In case if you're curious, if things are set up correctly, in a fixed width font a CJK character is supposed to have the width of two Latin alphabet characters. 天火狐 On 22 November 2017 at 19:54, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Isn't it possible that e was trying to

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

A timing scam is generally any sort of scam or even just a regular action which needs to be performed at a precise time to work. The purest form, I'd say, is doing something in between two other things being done in an unexpected way; Alex has a particularly great example that I can't recall. On

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

Luckily, satire is illegal. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > It is indeed an invitation to speculate. It's also satire. > > -Aris > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:18 PM, VJ Rada wrote: >> saying that there's a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Would this work?

>If you were also, Treasuror, with distributions, you could be even more >efficient Yes, yeah, I already pointed out that o could get infinite favours this way On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > If you were also,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:24 +1100, Madeline wrote: > Any player can Attempt to Scam by announcement. Only one Attempt to > Scam may be ongoing at a time. > > After an Attempt to Scam, any player can Resolve the Scam by > announcement, but not in a timely fashion. > > If the player who Resolves

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote: > Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt, > and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages > to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon. > Alternatively this may work

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

Both, and also at least one AI-attorney qualified to practice before the Interstellar Court of Millitary and Martime Law. We want to keep our options open. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:47 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > are you demanding a human attorney or a canine attorney? > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

I am firmly opposed to memes. The represent the end of morality in our society. ;) Serriously though, I have yet to find a meme that actually feels funny to me. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:05 PM VJ Rada wrote: > Character limit is good to know: means that if I ever do

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Yes, but enacting ribbons that everyone has a roughly equal chance of winning is kind of "trading wins" On 11/22/17, Aris Merchant wrote: > What about ribbons? One of those can be one by deceit, but most of > them are a matter of skill. What about victory

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

What about ribbons? One of those can be one by deceit, but most of them are a matter of skill. What about victory elections, or medals of honor? None of these are intended to be won by deceit, nor do I think the players who enacted them each expected to win by them. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

I'll concede that my argument only applies if players think them winning would be, by far, the most fun/ desirable experience. If another player has done a lot for Agora, it will be natural to say "It would be awesome if e were rewarded for eir effort". Also, of course, Imperial nomics exist,

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

Oh well. If it turns out to be unpopular, I won't submit it, and in no case will I commit to it. On 11/22/17, VJ Rada wrote: > It's a proto, correctly sent to discussion. > > I question the wisdom of imposing an obligation on anyone who reads a > particular message. It's not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

No you're good, they're talking about fining me (which I will fight tooth and nail) I pointed a finger at you, I suppose Alexis must resolve it. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > This entire conversation went way over my head. As far as I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

Step 1: be at school Step 2: don't pay attention On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, ATMunn wrote: > I certainly can't keep up. There are messages left and right here. > > > On 11/22/2017 7:01 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> >> Yes, I am supposed to be at a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

We need to create a 2d graph with amounts as an x and currency as the y to help in this assessment. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:02 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > The rule is pretty broken though tbh. Imagine if

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

lmao Yes, that's what I intended Too bad the answer is "none of the above" :V On 2017-11-23 11:54, Aris Merchant wrote: Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it looks like to me. -Aris On Wed, Nov

Re: DIS: test message please ignore

Yeah, I've noticed this as well, it happens in my text editor as well. I tend to go with the approach of having the | be in the same column. On 11/22/2017 7:56 PM, Alex Smith wrote: On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 11:45 +1100, Madeline wrote: Telnaior| 天火狐 | Trigon | Telnaior|

Re: DIS: test message please ignore

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 19:57 Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 11:45 +1100, Madeline wrote: > > > Telnaior| > > > 天火狐 | > > > Trigon | > > > > > Telnaior| > > > 天火狐 | > > > Trigon | > > > > > Telnaior| > > > 天火狐 | > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

It's only faking if it's intended to mislead. I certainly wasn't trying to mislead people into believing anything. I don't even what I'd be trying to mislead people into believing. That it could be one of those things? Any message could be any of them. Any message could theoretically be all of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt, and whoever resolves it gets a token of that letter. Someone who manages to collect a token of every letter can receive a Black Ribbon. Alternatively this may work better as a contract, but then I have no idea what kind of

SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

One idea I had is a list of "goals" that could be maintained - goals could be added through proposal, and when someone achieved a goal it was removed from the list and that player won the game. That'd allow for things like how trust tokens say the "first" player to do whatever wins. Perhaps it

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

We have consulted with our attorneys. I had absolutely nothing to do with this Telnaior person before being accused of participating in this scam with em. I don't even know who e really is, as we've never been in the same room together. We demand to be shown our accusers and presented with the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: I've actually been meaning to ask you this for a while Ørjan, and now seems like a decent time to do so (i don't mean to be rude or w/e obv). What's the story behind your watching of Agora? Because it seems like you were around in like 1993 and have been

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Yes, me neither, I don't like the idea of breaking the rules just to prevent a win. A win is a win, and if someone wins because of a scam, so what? They become the Speaker, and the game moves on. On 11/22/2017 3:44 PM, Alex Smith wrote: On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 20:39 +, Alexis Hunt wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

That's not true at all. Many meaningful win mechanics are as those in other games: the person who does best at something. For instance, we could decide to award a win to the player who votes on the most proposals in a month; no deceit is necessary for the competition. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 17:29

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

That's what I wondered: even though one annotation in the FLR says: "Players must obey the rules, even if no rule says so", which would, IMO, imply that ILLEGAL actions are IMPOSSIBLE, yet Agorans keep the distinction, as was explained to me by somebody, because an ILLEGAL action and its

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

The violations were just no faking violations, not related to the reeferee's power. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Oh, is there a finger-pointing that I should be doing something about > because of this clause: > >> When a Finger,

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

Need to TTttPF, and also you forgot Spivak pronouns. On 2017-11-23 10:17, Corona wrote: Well, I felt uncomfortable not having a Campaign Proposal if PSS is going to have one, so... I'd rather if y'all checked it for obvious holes, since it looks like it can't be retracted once announced. The

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

I think it's an interesting idea, but it's a bit too pragmatic. I haven't read anyone else's messages, but here are my comments. On 11/22/2017 6:17 PM, Corona wrote: Well, I felt uncomfortable not having a Campaign Proposal if PSS is going to have one, so... I'd rather if y'all checked it for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

You know I actually have a completely legal way that may well work and be able to get infinite favours. It would be unethical to do it (I promised Cuddlebeam to keep it secret) but wouldn't it be funny if I did it? (The answer to that question is no, rada. it wouldn't) On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Remember the way I tried to pay for the Estate? Given that economic favours are 1 shiny right now, o. could generate as many favours as e wanted if e got rid of eir shinies (e would be the earliest player to register w/ 0 shinies). E could, of course, do that for other people via contract if e got

DIS: test message please ignore

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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

I like this day. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Madeline wrote: > > On 2017-11-23 12:17, ATMunn wrote: >> It seems like Agora is in a scammy mood. >> >> I hereby declare that this message is a scam. >

DIS: Re: BUS: Would this work?

If you were also, Treasuror, with distributions, you could be even more efficient. But this wouldn't work in the same way that the Registrar need not track contract-defined switches. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:28 PM, VJ

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

Proto-contract: Emergency Attorney Services. PSS will provide Emergency Attorney Services with 12 hours notice to defend players or other persons. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Aris Merchant >

DIS: What counts as a scam?

Yesterday, I obtained a free stamp. Here's how it happened. Before I got up in the morning, o published the Treasuror's report. Then, when I got up in the morning, seeing that the FV was only 4, I bought a stamp for 1 shiny. Also before I got up, o created the ACU. E also gave all players 40

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

I support this idea. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:33 +1100, Madeline wrote: >> Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

I would not vote for such a mechanic unless I estimated, based on past experience, my proposal-voting abilities to be above these of other players. If it turns out a player is capable of voting on more proposals per month than I estimated, they have arguably commited some deceit by not correcting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

i copied and pasted 3,000 lies, yes. they were the same lie, and i suppose the cards could have been challenged as such (given messages are supposed to be taken as a whole for no faking). On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Were they all the same

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

No it is not. The rule says we may levy a fine between 1 and 25 shinies. Not all favours are equivalent, some may be more valuable than others. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 5:06 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > This

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

It's a proto. I apologise for the pronouns, here's a fixed version: I submit my Campaign Proposal for the Herald election: Create a new rule with power 1, name "Fireworks" and text as follows: All types of Fireworks are fixed assets. The Herald is the recordkeepor of all types of Fireworks. The

DIS: Anyone want to be interim Referee?

I don't actually.

Re: DIS: What counts as a scam?

On Wed, 2017-11-22 at 20:44 -0500, ATMunn wrote: > Does this count a timing scam, or just a really lucky sequence of > events? This was not something I planned, or ever could have planned. > But still, I did end up benefiting by getting a stamp for no cost, > and I did not even break the rules. >

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Corona wrote: Well, I felt uncomfortable not having a Campaign Proposal if PSS is going to have one, so... I'd rather if y'all checked it for obvious holes, since it looks like it can't be retracted once announced. Hm you CAN retract it from the Proposal Pool (rule 2350).

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Corona wrote: > Indeed, if one is not willing to participate in the questionable > practice of trading wins (I'll support your proposal to award yourself > a win if you support mine), every win in nomics must involve some > level of deceit, as one can't force a win, or offer

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

It's a proto, correctly sent to discussion. I question the wisdom of imposing an obligation on anyone who reads a particular message. It's not possible to know who reads what. Also, I'd like not to be punished for not being happy enough please. You can't tell me what to do! Finally, I voted

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

One is to just say that it is poor drafting and therefore as soon as the currencies do not match, we do not know what is within the set and therefore only the bounds are known and valid. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:03 PM,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Pledges aren't a currency and I doubt anyone would support a fine like that. On 2017-11-23 11:02, VJ Rada wrote: The rule is pretty broken though tbh. Imagine if Alexis had decided to fine me 2 pledges (which are an asset). Are 2 pledges between 1 shiny and 3,000 favours? On Thu, Nov 23, 2017

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

I'll put a solution to that in my ruling. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:02 PM VJ Rada wrote: > The rule is pretty broken though tbh. Imagine if Alexis had decided to > fine me 2 pledges (which are an asset). Are 2 pledges between 1 shiny > and 3,000 favours? > > On Thu,

DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it looks like to me. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > SCAM ALERT! ALL

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

It is indeed an invitation to speculate. It's also satire. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:18 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > saying that there's a possibility it's one of those things is > explicitly inviting others to speculate on that message's purpose, > implying that there is one

DIS: SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A scam message contains confusing contents was received at 1:20 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Were they all the same lie? If so they may just be one violation in total anyway. (by the same principle of saying "I support" on a single intent 1000 times is only 1 support). On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > The violations were just no faking violations, not related to the > reeferee's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

it is a strong expectation in every game that every player can win the game, and has a decent chance of doing so. that's just what games do. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 9:51 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > in that sense so is every game mechanic in every game ever created. > > On Thu, Nov

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

in that sense so is every game mechanic in every game ever created. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Corona wrote: > Yes, but enacting ribbons that everyone has a roughly equal chance of > winning is kind of "trading wins" > > On 11/22/17, Aris Merchant

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

Not you! >_< On 2017-11-23 10:43, Reuben Staley wrote: This entire conversation went way over my head. As far as I understand, I'm being given a blue card and a fine of 3000 favours? Do I have any favours to pay this with? On 11/22/2017 4:34 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: Oh I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

Nothing to do with you, in fact I don't really understand why this discussion is on this thread. Also, 3000 anything is excessive. For goodness sake people, pick fines that are payable. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > This entire

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: o can be silly now

Nope, this is about VJ Rada. You had the finger pointed at you for failing to be silly, but that's it. On 11/22/2017 6:43 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: This entire conversation went way over my head. As far as I understand, I'm being given a blue card and a fine of 3000 favours? Do I have any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 18:57 ATMunn wrote: > The transfer failed, as Alexis had already acted on your behalf to pay the > fine. > Assuming the Blue Card worked at all, yes.

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

The transfer failed, as Alexis had already acted on your behalf to pay the fine. On 11/22/2017 6:50 PM, VJ Rada wrote: I pay one shiny to create the following contract (destroying 10 bills and trading w/ ACU) TITLE: WHATEVER TEXT: THIS CONTRACT HOLDS RADA's Assets i transfer 3,000 justice

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

SORE WA CHIGAU YO "For each Party, there is a currency called Favours in that Party." On 2017-11-23 10:54, VJ Rada wrote: Arguments: Blue Cards states "The person issuing a Blue Card must, in the same message, announce a penalty between 1 shiny and the greater of 25 shinies and the amount the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

saying that there's a possibility it's one of those things is explicitly inviting others to speculate on that message's purpose, implying that there is one and the message does not, indeed, do nothing. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: >

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

In the future, I will. Part of the joke was the mass of emails, demonstrating the overreaction. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > OOC: pick one forum please,

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

We admit nothing. We invoke our rights to remain silent, and demand attorneys. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > You're in on it. > > I knew it. > > Traitor. > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> Isn't it possible that e was

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

OOC: pick one forum please, to avoid spamming. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at > 0:45 on November 23, 2017. This message took the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Indeed, if one is not willing to participate in the questionable practice of trading wins (I'll support your proposal to award yourself a win if you support mine), every win in nomics must involve some level of deceit, as one can't force a win, or offer anything less than a win for a win, as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

I don't really dislike memes in general, but there are some that I certainly don't like, and some are outright stupid. There are some good ones in my opinion, though. Let's not get into a big meme vs anti-meme discussion, though. :P On 11/22/2017 5:25 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: I am firmly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

Oh, is there a finger-pointing that I should be doing something about because of this clause: > When a Finger, other than the Arbitor's, is Pointed over > an allegation related to the official duties or powers of the > Referee, then the Arbitor CAN, by announcement, take

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation, favours, and pledge

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Corona wrote: > I'll concede that my argument only applies if players think them > winning would be, by far, the most fun/ desirable experience. If > another player has done a lot for Agora, it will be natural to say "It > would be awesome if e were rewarded for eir effort".

Re: DIS: Campaign proposal proto

That was intended to be the point; you could choose not to disclose that you have read the message, avoiding any punishment for not having emotion X On 11/22/17, VJ Rada wrote: > It's a proto, correctly sent to discussion. > > I question the wisdom of imposing an obligation

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

Oh, well that's plausible, but I just wanted to be safe. That could also be cover for a timing scam. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Isn't it possible that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Innocent message. Probably.

It was supposed to make people laugh, not to make them believe anything. -Aris On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:21 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > Luckily, satire is illegal. > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Aris Merchant > wrote: >> It is indeed an

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:03 +1100, Madeline wrote: > What is a "timing scam" and how do I go about performing one? It's a scam that could be trivially prevented by other players doing a particular action, and often it's obvious what the action is; but the action in question only has a very

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I have no idea what I'm doing

you just want australians to be able to easily do this while everyone else is asleep, don't you? nice try. On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Madeline wrote: > Potential expansion: They name an English letter along with the attempt, and > whoever resolves it gets a token of

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