DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: Informal Reportor Report (per contract)

2017-11-20 Thread Owen Jacobson

> On Nov 20, 2017, at 7:09 PM, Josh T  wrote:
> 
> I collect a reward of 5 Shinies for the quoted report, and if I
> successfully had collected said reward, pay VJ Rada 5 Shinies as per
> contract.

Unfortunately, you did not, and therefore did not. My apologies for this 
heinous lapse.

-o



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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7973-7880

2017-11-20 Thread VJ Rada
Ya I was just going to give myself a win and put Smash Mouth All Star
in the ruleset for a while for that exact reason: an absurd
dictatorship would be disastrous at this point.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
>
>> On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:42 AM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>>
>>> AGAINST. By my read, this would change the restriction
>>
>>>6. The voter has no other valid ballots on the same decision.
>>
>>> to
>>
>>>6. The voter has no other invalid ballots on the same decision.
>>
>>> which is obvious nonsense.
>>
>> DARN. Knew I should have bribed you again.
>> Alright show's over boys vote against this proposal.
>
> Wouldn’t have helped.
>
> The last voting scam is how Alexis got eir Princess title, and a Dictatorship 
> that heralded a multi-month lapse in the game. I wouldn’t have taken that 
> bribe - I like playing too much.
>
> Looking at the votes, though, you came impressively close to sneaking this in.
>
> -o
>



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DIS: Re: BUS: Rewards

2017-11-20 Thread Owen Jacobson

> On Nov 19, 2017, at 11:40 PM, Aris Merchant 
>  wrote:
> 
> On the off chance that this works, I claim a 5 shiny reward from Agora
> for my Promotor report.

Close! But Agora had four shinies, not five.

-o



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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7973-7880

2017-11-20 Thread Owen Jacobson

> On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:42 AM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> 
>> AGAINST. By my read, this would change the restriction
> 
>>6. The voter has no other valid ballots on the same decision.
> 
>> to
> 
>>6. The voter has no other invalid ballots on the same decision.
> 
>> which is obvious nonsense.
> 
> DARN. Knew I should have bribed you again.
> Alright show's over boys vote against this proposal.

Wouldn’t have helped.

The last voting scam is how Alexis got eir Princess title, and a Dictatorship 
that heralded a multi-month lapse in the game. I wouldn’t have taken that bribe 
- I like playing too much.

Looking at the votes, though, you came impressively close to sneaking this in.

-o



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DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7973-7880

2017-11-20 Thread VJ Rada
>AGAINST. By my read, this would change the restriction

> 6. The voter has no other valid ballots on the same decision.

>to

> 6. The voter has no other invalid ballots on the same decision.

>which is obvious nonsense.

DARN. Knew I should have bribed you again.
Alright show's over boys vote against this proposal.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> I vote as follows:
>
>> ID Author(s)AI   TitlePender  Pend 
>> fee
>> ---
>> 7973*  Aris 1.0  Sky Pillars  ArisOP [1]
>
> AGAINST. A permanent monument to every departed player is a cute idea, but 
> probably impractical.
>
> Besides, it should be the Herald, not the Registrar.
>
>> 7974*  V.J. Rada3.0 [2]  Really minor fixes   V.J. Rada   1 AP
>
> AGAINST. By my read, this would change the restriction
>
>  6. The voter has no other valid ballots on the same decision.
>
> to
>
>  6. The voter has no other invalid ballots on the same decision.
>
> which is obvious nonsense.
>
> The portion amending Agoran Satisfaction should also be a bit more thorough; 
> that list of clauses is a mess.
>
> Sorry for the late review. I had initially thought this proposal was much 
> less substantial than it actually is. There are a number of worthwhile and 
> important fixes in it; I’ll likely resubmit it as several separate proposals 
> to help get the changes to the less-risky rules through.
>
>> 7975*  ATMunn, [3]  2.0  Auctions v6  ATMunn  1 AP
>
> FOR.
>
>> 7976*  Alexis, [4]  1.7  A Mostest Ingenious Paradox  Alexis  2 sh.
>
> PRESENT.
>
>> 7977*  ATMunn   3.0  Silver Ribbons   ATMunn  1 AP
>
> FOR, why not.
>
>> 7978*  G.   3.0  Gotta allow a win sometime   Corona  1 AP
>
> FOR. Pegging the already-high difficulty of a ribbon win is a reasonable idea.
>
>> 7979*  G.   1.0  Plain Old BriberyG.  1 AP
>
> FOR, to the surprise of absolutely nobody.
>
>> 7980*  ATMunn, [5]  1.0  [6]  Alexis  1 AP
>
> FOR.
>
> -o
>



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DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJs 3599-3601 assigned to o

2017-11-20 Thread Owen Jacobson

On Nov 19, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>> AP-CFJ: "If a proposal specifies an amendment to a rule consisting of
>> multiple parts, one of which is a title change, then the entire amendment
>> fails."
> 
> This is CFJ 3599.
> 
> 
>> Shiny-CFJ: "If a proposal specifies to "amend" a rule by changing its
>> title (and no other change), it succeeds in retitling the rule."
> 
> This is CFJ 3600.
> 
> 
>> shiny-CFJ: "Proposal 7924 succeeded in amending Rule 1023".
> 
> This is CFJ 3601.
> 
> I assign all three of the above CFJs to o.  (sorry, o!)

Not at all. I’m looking forward to this one: this is the kind of gritty 
mechanical CFJ (series, but they’re effectively a single giant CFJ) that I 
enjoy.

-o



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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (Unofficial) FLR COE

2017-11-20 Thread Alexis Hunt
I missed it :(

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 at 21:07 Madeline  wrote:

> I said this ages ago and no one believed me!
>
>
> On 2017-11-21 12:33, VJ Rada wrote:
> > "Rule 2531/0 (Power=1.0)
> > Referee Accountability
> > History:
> > Enacted by Proposal 7934 "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ" (天火狐), Nov 06,
> >2017"
> >
> > Obviously, it was not enacted by that proposal. The actual rule
> > "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ" is listed nowhere in the FLR.
>
>
>


DIS: Re: BUS: (Unofficial) FLR COE

2017-11-20 Thread Madeline

I said this ages ago and no one believed me!


On 2017-11-21 12:33, VJ Rada wrote:

"Rule 2531/0 (Power=1.0)
Referee Accountability
History:
Enacted by Proposal 7934 "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ" (天火狐), Nov 06,
   2017"

Obviously, it was not enacted by that proposal. The actual rule
"Poetry Duel Challenge Writ" is listed nowhere in the FLR.





DIS: Re: BUS: (Unofficial) FLR COE

2017-11-20 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 at 20:33 VJ Rada  wrote:

> "Rule 2531/0 (Power=1.0)
> Referee Accountability
> History:
> Enacted by Proposal 7934 "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ" (天火狐), Nov 06,
>   2017"
>
> Obviously, it was not enacted by that proposal. The actual rule
> "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ" is listed nowhere in the FLR.
>

Huh. I'll dig into that one.


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2017-11-20 Thread VJ Rada
You shouldn't feel ashamed, it's just the rules.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:07 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> Nope! The fine has to be levied. E can pay the money if e wants to pay
> it, but that doesn't satisfy any obligation. There's only an
> obligation to pay if the fine is levied.
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Aris Merchant
>  wrote:
>> If you want to pay it, you certainly can. V.J., you would mark it as paid
>> then, right?
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:04 PM ATMunn  wrote:
>>
>>> Huh. I somewhat feel like maybe players just missed it, but I guess I
>>> shouldn't complain about not having to pay a fine. I just don't like seeing
>>> it there in the Referee's report...
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2017 8:01 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
>>> > Yes, the fines are forever unpaid. If Agora doesn't want you to pay
>>> > the fine, you won't pay it.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:54 AM, ATMunn 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> (I forgot to mention that only one player supported the intent, me)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/20/2017 7:53 PM, ATMunn wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2 things:
>>> >>> first of all, in my next ADoP report, should I just note this as one
>>> >>> report or a report and a revision?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Also, 14 days have passed since your intent to levy fines on me and
>>> >>> Alexis.
>>> >>> Here's the problem: Rule 2506 states that
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "When a Blue Card is issued, as a penalty, within the next 7 days, any
>>> >>> player CAN once, with 2 Support, Levy a Fine upon the bad sport."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It has been far more than 7 days since the blue card was issued. So,
>>> will
>>> >>> these fines be forever left unpaid?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 11/20/2017 7:46 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
>>> 
>>>  This is the (better formatted) Referee's Weekly Report. Referee's
>>>  notes are obviously not part of the text of pledges.
>>> 
>>>  Really slow week.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Date of this report: 21 Nov 2017
>>>  Date of last report: 14 Nov 2017
>>> 
>>>  Recent events:
>>>  Sat, 4 Nov 2017: nichdel pointed a finger at emself for breaking a
>>>  pledge.
>>>  Sat, 4 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at nichdel found SHENANIGANS
>>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Yellow Card issued to nichdel for Broken Pledge
>>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: PSS[1] pointed a finger at ATMunn for Quorum Not
>>> Stated
>>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to ATMunn for Quorum Not
>>>  Stated
>>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Trigon made a pledge
>>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Aris pointed a finger at Alexis for Quorum Not Stated
>>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to Alexis for Quorum Not
>>>  Stated
>>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: ATMunn made a pledge
>>>  Tue, 7 Nov 2017: Two pledges owned by o destroyed
>>>  Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
>>>  Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
>>>  Previous Report
>>>  Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
>>>  Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
>>>  Wed,  8 Nov 2017: Aris made 18 pledges (thanks a bunch, Aris)
>>>  Thu,  9 Nov 2017: Cuddlebeam pointed a finger at o. for abuse of power
>>>  Sat, 11 Nov 2017: Alexis made a pledge
>>>  Mon, 13 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at o. found SHENANIGANS#
>>>  Time of Last Report
>>>  Fri, 17 Nov 2017: Corona made a pledge.
>>>  Sun, 19 Nov 2017: Aris withdrew 18 pledges.
>>>  Mon, 20 Nov 2017: Red Card issued by Summary Judgement to V.J. Rada
>>> for
>>>  breaking R2491
>>>  Tue, 21 Nov 2017: OscarMeyr made a pledge (yes, non-players can own
>>> them)
>>>  Tue, 21 Nov 2017: Green Card issued by Summary Judgement to 天火狐
>>>  for Tardiness
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> 
>>>  Green Cards:
>>>  Player   On Reason
>>>  ---
>>>  P.S.S.[1]May 16, 2017   Tardiness
>>>  P.S.S.[1]May 20, 2017   Ambiguity
>>>  Murphy   Jun 22, 2017   Faking
>>>  Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
>>>  Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
>>>  oJul 11, 2017   Tardiness
>>>  V.J Rada Jul 14, 2017   Making My Eyes Bleed
>>>  oJul 18, 2017   Tardiness
>>>  oJul 29, 2017   Tardiness
>>>  Gaelan   Jul 29, 2017   Late Judgement
>>>  oSep  4, 2017   Rule 2498
>>>  Quazie   Sep  7, 2017   Rule 2201
>>>  天火狐Sep 12, 2017   No reason
>>>  oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2426
>>>  oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2478
>>>  V.J Rada Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2496
>>>  nichdel  Sep 20, 2017   Rule 2450
>>>  oSep 20, 2017   Rule 2478
>>>  oSep 22, 2017   Rule 2426
>>>  V.J Rada Sep 24, 2017   Rule 2143
>>>  CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
>>>  

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2017-11-20 Thread VJ Rada
Nope! The fine has to be levied. E can pay the money if e wants to pay
it, but that doesn't satisfy any obligation. There's only an
obligation to pay if the fine is levied.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:
> If you want to pay it, you certainly can. V.J., you would mark it as paid
> then, right?
>
> -Aris
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:04 PM ATMunn  wrote:
>
>> Huh. I somewhat feel like maybe players just missed it, but I guess I
>> shouldn't complain about not having to pay a fine. I just don't like seeing
>> it there in the Referee's report...
>>
>> On 11/20/2017 8:01 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
>> > Yes, the fines are forever unpaid. If Agora doesn't want you to pay
>> > the fine, you won't pay it.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:54 AM, ATMunn 
>> wrote:
>> >> (I forgot to mention that only one player supported the intent, me)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 11/20/2017 7:53 PM, ATMunn wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 2 things:
>> >>> first of all, in my next ADoP report, should I just note this as one
>> >>> report or a report and a revision?
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, 14 days have passed since your intent to levy fines on me and
>> >>> Alexis.
>> >>> Here's the problem: Rule 2506 states that
>> >>>
>> >>> "When a Blue Card is issued, as a penalty, within the next 7 days, any
>> >>> player CAN once, with 2 Support, Levy a Fine upon the bad sport."
>> >>>
>> >>> It has been far more than 7 days since the blue card was issued. So,
>> will
>> >>> these fines be forever left unpaid?
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11/20/2017 7:46 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
>> 
>>  This is the (better formatted) Referee's Weekly Report. Referee's
>>  notes are obviously not part of the text of pledges.
>> 
>>  Really slow week.
>> 
>> 
>>  Date of this report: 21 Nov 2017
>>  Date of last report: 14 Nov 2017
>> 
>>  Recent events:
>>  Sat, 4 Nov 2017: nichdel pointed a finger at emself for breaking a
>>  pledge.
>>  Sat, 4 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at nichdel found SHENANIGANS
>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Yellow Card issued to nichdel for Broken Pledge
>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: PSS[1] pointed a finger at ATMunn for Quorum Not
>> Stated
>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to ATMunn for Quorum Not
>>  Stated
>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Trigon made a pledge
>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Aris pointed a finger at Alexis for Quorum Not Stated
>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to Alexis for Quorum Not
>>  Stated
>>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: ATMunn made a pledge
>>  Tue, 7 Nov 2017: Two pledges owned by o destroyed
>>  Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
>>  Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
>>  Previous Report
>>  Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
>>  Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
>>  Wed,  8 Nov 2017: Aris made 18 pledges (thanks a bunch, Aris)
>>  Thu,  9 Nov 2017: Cuddlebeam pointed a finger at o. for abuse of power
>>  Sat, 11 Nov 2017: Alexis made a pledge
>>  Mon, 13 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at o. found SHENANIGANS#
>>  Time of Last Report
>>  Fri, 17 Nov 2017: Corona made a pledge.
>>  Sun, 19 Nov 2017: Aris withdrew 18 pledges.
>>  Mon, 20 Nov 2017: Red Card issued by Summary Judgement to V.J. Rada
>> for
>>  breaking R2491
>>  Tue, 21 Nov 2017: OscarMeyr made a pledge (yes, non-players can own
>> them)
>>  Tue, 21 Nov 2017: Green Card issued by Summary Judgement to 天火狐
>>  for Tardiness
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> 
>>  Green Cards:
>>  Player   On Reason
>>  ---
>>  P.S.S.[1]May 16, 2017   Tardiness
>>  P.S.S.[1]May 20, 2017   Ambiguity
>>  Murphy   Jun 22, 2017   Faking
>>  Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
>>  Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
>>  oJul 11, 2017   Tardiness
>>  V.J Rada Jul 14, 2017   Making My Eyes Bleed
>>  oJul 18, 2017   Tardiness
>>  oJul 29, 2017   Tardiness
>>  Gaelan   Jul 29, 2017   Late Judgement
>>  oSep  4, 2017   Rule 2498
>>  Quazie   Sep  7, 2017   Rule 2201
>>  天火狐Sep 12, 2017   No reason
>>  oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2426
>>  oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2478
>>  V.J Rada Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2496
>>  nichdel  Sep 20, 2017   Rule 2450
>>  oSep 20, 2017   Rule 2478
>>  oSep 22, 2017   Rule 2426
>>  V.J Rada Sep 24, 2017   Rule 2143
>>  CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
>>  CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
>>  oSep 26, 2017   Rule 2426
>>  P.S.S.[1]Sep 27, 2017   Rule 2143
>>  V.J Rada Oct  3, 2017   Rule 2471
>>  oOct  4, 2017   Rule 2479
>>  Aris Oct 

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2017-11-20 Thread Aris Merchant
If you want to pay it, you certainly can. V.J., you would mark it as paid
then, right?

-Aris

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:04 PM ATMunn  wrote:

> Huh. I somewhat feel like maybe players just missed it, but I guess I
> shouldn't complain about not having to pay a fine. I just don't like seeing
> it there in the Referee's report...
>
> On 11/20/2017 8:01 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
> > Yes, the fines are forever unpaid. If Agora doesn't want you to pay
> > the fine, you won't pay it.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:54 AM, ATMunn 
> wrote:
> >> (I forgot to mention that only one player supported the intent, me)
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/20/2017 7:53 PM, ATMunn wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 2 things:
> >>> first of all, in my next ADoP report, should I just note this as one
> >>> report or a report and a revision?
> >>>
> >>> Also, 14 days have passed since your intent to levy fines on me and
> >>> Alexis.
> >>> Here's the problem: Rule 2506 states that
> >>>
> >>> "When a Blue Card is issued, as a penalty, within the next 7 days, any
> >>> player CAN once, with 2 Support, Levy a Fine upon the bad sport."
> >>>
> >>> It has been far more than 7 days since the blue card was issued. So,
> will
> >>> these fines be forever left unpaid?
> >>>
> >>> On 11/20/2017 7:46 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
> 
>  This is the (better formatted) Referee's Weekly Report. Referee's
>  notes are obviously not part of the text of pledges.
> 
>  Really slow week.
> 
> 
>  Date of this report: 21 Nov 2017
>  Date of last report: 14 Nov 2017
> 
>  Recent events:
>  Sat, 4 Nov 2017: nichdel pointed a finger at emself for breaking a
>  pledge.
>  Sat, 4 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at nichdel found SHENANIGANS
>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Yellow Card issued to nichdel for Broken Pledge
>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: PSS[1] pointed a finger at ATMunn for Quorum Not
> Stated
>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to ATMunn for Quorum Not
>  Stated
>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Trigon made a pledge
>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Aris pointed a finger at Alexis for Quorum Not Stated
>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to Alexis for Quorum Not
>  Stated
>  Mon, 6 Nov 2017: ATMunn made a pledge
>  Tue, 7 Nov 2017: Two pledges owned by o destroyed
>  Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
>  Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
>  Previous Report
>  Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
>  Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
>  Wed,  8 Nov 2017: Aris made 18 pledges (thanks a bunch, Aris)
>  Thu,  9 Nov 2017: Cuddlebeam pointed a finger at o. for abuse of power
>  Sat, 11 Nov 2017: Alexis made a pledge
>  Mon, 13 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at o. found SHENANIGANS#
>  Time of Last Report
>  Fri, 17 Nov 2017: Corona made a pledge.
>  Sun, 19 Nov 2017: Aris withdrew 18 pledges.
>  Mon, 20 Nov 2017: Red Card issued by Summary Judgement to V.J. Rada
> for
>  breaking R2491
>  Tue, 21 Nov 2017: OscarMeyr made a pledge (yes, non-players can own
> them)
>  Tue, 21 Nov 2017: Green Card issued by Summary Judgement to 天火狐
>  for Tardiness
> 
> 
> 
>  [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> 
>  Green Cards:
>  Player   On Reason
>  ---
>  P.S.S.[1]May 16, 2017   Tardiness
>  P.S.S.[1]May 20, 2017   Ambiguity
>  Murphy   Jun 22, 2017   Faking
>  Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
>  Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
>  oJul 11, 2017   Tardiness
>  V.J Rada Jul 14, 2017   Making My Eyes Bleed
>  oJul 18, 2017   Tardiness
>  oJul 29, 2017   Tardiness
>  Gaelan   Jul 29, 2017   Late Judgement
>  oSep  4, 2017   Rule 2498
>  Quazie   Sep  7, 2017   Rule 2201
>  天火狐Sep 12, 2017   No reason
>  oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2426
>  oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2478
>  V.J Rada Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2496
>  nichdel  Sep 20, 2017   Rule 2450
>  oSep 20, 2017   Rule 2478
>  oSep 22, 2017   Rule 2426
>  V.J Rada Sep 24, 2017   Rule 2143
>  CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
>  CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
>  oSep 26, 2017   Rule 2426
>  P.S.S.[1]Sep 27, 2017   Rule 2143
>  V.J Rada Oct  3, 2017   Rule 2471
>  oOct  4, 2017   Rule 2479
>  Aris Oct 11, 2017   Rule 2143
>  oOct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
>  oOct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
>  oOct 24, 2017   Tardiness
>  V.J. RadaOct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
>  V.J. RadaOct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
>  oOct 31, 2017   R2156 Lateness
>  天火狐
>   Nov 21, 2017:   Tardiness
> 
> 
> 

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2017-11-20 Thread ATMunn

Huh. I somewhat feel like maybe players just missed it, but I guess I shouldn't 
complain about not having to pay a fine. I just don't like seeing it there in 
the Referee's report...

On 11/20/2017 8:01 PM, VJ Rada wrote:

Yes, the fines are forever unpaid. If Agora doesn't want you to pay
the fine, you won't pay it.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:54 AM, ATMunn  wrote:

(I forgot to mention that only one player supported the intent, me)


On 11/20/2017 7:53 PM, ATMunn wrote:


2 things:
first of all, in my next ADoP report, should I just note this as one
report or a report and a revision?

Also, 14 days have passed since your intent to levy fines on me and
Alexis.
Here's the problem: Rule 2506 states that

"When a Blue Card is issued, as a penalty, within the next 7 days, any
player CAN once, with 2 Support, Levy a Fine upon the bad sport."

It has been far more than 7 days since the blue card was issued. So, will
these fines be forever left unpaid?

On 11/20/2017 7:46 PM, VJ Rada wrote:


This is the (better formatted) Referee's Weekly Report. Referee's
notes are obviously not part of the text of pledges.

Really slow week.


Date of this report: 21 Nov 2017
Date of last report: 14 Nov 2017

Recent events:
Sat, 4 Nov 2017: nichdel pointed a finger at emself for breaking a
pledge.
Sat, 4 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at nichdel found SHENANIGANS
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Yellow Card issued to nichdel for Broken Pledge
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: PSS[1] pointed a finger at ATMunn for Quorum Not Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to ATMunn for Quorum Not
Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Trigon made a pledge
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Aris pointed a finger at Alexis for Quorum Not Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to Alexis for Quorum Not
Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: ATMunn made a pledge
Tue, 7 Nov 2017: Two pledges owned by o destroyed
Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
Previous Report
Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
Wed,  8 Nov 2017: Aris made 18 pledges (thanks a bunch, Aris)
Thu,  9 Nov 2017: Cuddlebeam pointed a finger at o. for abuse of power
Sat, 11 Nov 2017: Alexis made a pledge
Mon, 13 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at o. found SHENANIGANS#
Time of Last Report
Fri, 17 Nov 2017: Corona made a pledge.
Sun, 19 Nov 2017: Aris withdrew 18 pledges.
Mon, 20 Nov 2017: Red Card issued by Summary Judgement to V.J. Rada for
breaking R2491
Tue, 21 Nov 2017: OscarMeyr made a pledge (yes, non-players can own them)
Tue, 21 Nov 2017: Green Card issued by Summary Judgement to 天火狐
for Tardiness



[1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Green Cards:
Player   On Reason
---
P.S.S.[1]May 16, 2017   Tardiness
P.S.S.[1]May 20, 2017   Ambiguity
Murphy   Jun 22, 2017   Faking
Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
oJul 11, 2017   Tardiness
V.J Rada Jul 14, 2017   Making My Eyes Bleed
oJul 18, 2017   Tardiness
oJul 29, 2017   Tardiness
Gaelan   Jul 29, 2017   Late Judgement
oSep  4, 2017   Rule 2498
Quazie   Sep  7, 2017   Rule 2201
天火狐Sep 12, 2017   No reason
oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2426
oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2478
V.J Rada Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2496
nichdel  Sep 20, 2017   Rule 2450
oSep 20, 2017   Rule 2478
oSep 22, 2017   Rule 2426
V.J Rada Sep 24, 2017   Rule 2143
CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
oSep 26, 2017   Rule 2426
P.S.S.[1]Sep 27, 2017   Rule 2143
V.J Rada Oct  3, 2017   Rule 2471
oOct  4, 2017   Rule 2479
Aris Oct 11, 2017   Rule 2143
oOct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
oOct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
oOct 24, 2017   Tardiness
V.J. RadaOct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
V.J. RadaOct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
oOct 31, 2017   R2156 Lateness
天火狐
 Nov 21, 2017:   Tardiness



[1] Named, in full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.


Blue Cards

PlayerOn ReasonFine
---
ATMunnNov 6, 2017Quorum Not Stated {2sh}
AlexisNov 6, 2017Quorum Not Stated {2sh}

Fines in {} indicate no Fine Levied. Fines in [] indicate Fine Levied,
but not paid

Yellow Cards:


PlayerUntil  Reason   Apology Words
---
Quazie   (Apr 26, 2017)  Bankruptcy
o(Apr 22, 2017)  Tardiness
o(Jul 15, 2017)  Tardiness
o(Jul 15, 2017)  Tardiness
CuddleBeamJul 16, 2017   Tardiness
P.S.S.[1] Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2143
o(Aug 23, 2017)  Rule 2491
Quazie   (Sep 13, 2017)  Rule 2450
V.J Rada (Sep 15, 2017)  Being bad
GaelanNov 24, 2017   Tardiness
Nichdel   

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2017-11-20 Thread VJ Rada
Yes, the fines are forever unpaid. If Agora doesn't want you to pay
the fine, you won't pay it.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:54 AM, ATMunn  wrote:
> (I forgot to mention that only one player supported the intent, me)
>
>
> On 11/20/2017 7:53 PM, ATMunn wrote:
>>
>> 2 things:
>> first of all, in my next ADoP report, should I just note this as one
>> report or a report and a revision?
>>
>> Also, 14 days have passed since your intent to levy fines on me and
>> Alexis.
>> Here's the problem: Rule 2506 states that
>>
>> "When a Blue Card is issued, as a penalty, within the next 7 days, any
>> player CAN once, with 2 Support, Levy a Fine upon the bad sport."
>>
>> It has been far more than 7 days since the blue card was issued. So, will
>> these fines be forever left unpaid?
>>
>> On 11/20/2017 7:46 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
>>>
>>> This is the (better formatted) Referee's Weekly Report. Referee's
>>> notes are obviously not part of the text of pledges.
>>>
>>> Really slow week.
>>>
>>>
>>> Date of this report: 21 Nov 2017
>>> Date of last report: 14 Nov 2017
>>>
>>> Recent events:
>>> Sat, 4 Nov 2017: nichdel pointed a finger at emself for breaking a
>>> pledge.
>>> Sat, 4 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at nichdel found SHENANIGANS
>>> Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Yellow Card issued to nichdel for Broken Pledge
>>> Mon, 6 Nov 2017: PSS[1] pointed a finger at ATMunn for Quorum Not Stated
>>> Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to ATMunn for Quorum Not
>>> Stated
>>> Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Trigon made a pledge
>>> Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Aris pointed a finger at Alexis for Quorum Not Stated
>>> Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to Alexis for Quorum Not
>>> Stated
>>> Mon, 6 Nov 2017: ATMunn made a pledge
>>> Tue, 7 Nov 2017: Two pledges owned by o destroyed
>>> Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
>>> Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
>>> Previous Report
>>> Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
>>> Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
>>> Wed,  8 Nov 2017: Aris made 18 pledges (thanks a bunch, Aris)
>>> Thu,  9 Nov 2017: Cuddlebeam pointed a finger at o. for abuse of power
>>> Sat, 11 Nov 2017: Alexis made a pledge
>>> Mon, 13 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at o. found SHENANIGANS#
>>> Time of Last Report
>>> Fri, 17 Nov 2017: Corona made a pledge.
>>> Sun, 19 Nov 2017: Aris withdrew 18 pledges.
>>> Mon, 20 Nov 2017: Red Card issued by Summary Judgement to V.J. Rada for
>>> breaking R2491
>>> Tue, 21 Nov 2017: OscarMeyr made a pledge (yes, non-players can own them)
>>> Tue, 21 Nov 2017: Green Card issued by Summary Judgement to 天火狐
>>> for Tardiness
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>>
>>> Green Cards:
>>> Player   On Reason
>>> ---
>>> P.S.S.[1]May 16, 2017   Tardiness
>>> P.S.S.[1]May 20, 2017   Ambiguity
>>> Murphy   Jun 22, 2017   Faking
>>> Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
>>> Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
>>> oJul 11, 2017   Tardiness
>>> V.J Rada Jul 14, 2017   Making My Eyes Bleed
>>> oJul 18, 2017   Tardiness
>>> oJul 29, 2017   Tardiness
>>> Gaelan   Jul 29, 2017   Late Judgement
>>> oSep  4, 2017   Rule 2498
>>> Quazie   Sep  7, 2017   Rule 2201
>>> 天火狐Sep 12, 2017   No reason
>>> oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2426
>>> oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2478
>>> V.J Rada Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2496
>>> nichdel  Sep 20, 2017   Rule 2450
>>> oSep 20, 2017   Rule 2478
>>> oSep 22, 2017   Rule 2426
>>> V.J Rada Sep 24, 2017   Rule 2143
>>> CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
>>> CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
>>> oSep 26, 2017   Rule 2426
>>> P.S.S.[1]Sep 27, 2017   Rule 2143
>>> V.J Rada Oct  3, 2017   Rule 2471
>>> oOct  4, 2017   Rule 2479
>>> Aris Oct 11, 2017   Rule 2143
>>> oOct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
>>> oOct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
>>> oOct 24, 2017   Tardiness
>>> V.J. RadaOct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
>>> V.J. RadaOct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
>>> oOct 31, 2017   R2156 Lateness
>>> 天火狐
>>> Nov 21, 2017:   Tardiness
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] Named, in full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
>>>
>>>
>>> Blue Cards
>>>
>>> PlayerOn ReasonFine
>>> ---
>>> ATMunnNov 6, 2017Quorum Not Stated {2sh}
>>> AlexisNov 6, 2017Quorum Not Stated {2sh}
>>>
>>> Fines in {} indicate no Fine Levied. Fines in [] indicate Fine Levied,
>>> but not paid
>>>
>>> Yellow Cards:
>>>
>>>
>>> PlayerUntil  Reason   Apology Words
>>> ---
>>> Quazie   (Apr 26, 2017)  Bankruptcy
>>> o(Apr 22, 2017)  Tardiness
>>> o(Jul 15, 2017)  Tardiness
>>> o(Jul 15, 2017)  Tardiness
>>> 

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2017-11-20 Thread ATMunn

(I forgot to mention that only one player supported the intent, me)

On 11/20/2017 7:53 PM, ATMunn wrote:

2 things:
first of all, in my next ADoP report, should I just note this as one report or 
a report and a revision?

Also, 14 days have passed since your intent to levy fines on me and Alexis.
Here's the problem: Rule 2506 states that

"When a Blue Card is issued, as a penalty, within the next 7 days, any player CAN 
once, with 2 Support, Levy a Fine upon the bad sport."

It has been far more than 7 days since the blue card was issued. So, will these 
fines be forever left unpaid?

On 11/20/2017 7:46 PM, VJ Rada wrote:

This is the (better formatted) Referee's Weekly Report. Referee's
notes are obviously not part of the text of pledges.

Really slow week.


Date of this report: 21 Nov 2017
Date of last report: 14 Nov 2017

Recent events:
Sat, 4 Nov 2017: nichdel pointed a finger at emself for breaking a pledge.
Sat, 4 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at nichdel found SHENANIGANS
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Yellow Card issued to nichdel for Broken Pledge
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: PSS[1] pointed a finger at ATMunn for Quorum Not Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to ATMunn for Quorum Not
Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Trigon made a pledge
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Aris pointed a finger at Alexis for Quorum Not Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to Alexis for Quorum Not
Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: ATMunn made a pledge
Tue, 7 Nov 2017: Two pledges owned by o destroyed
Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
Previous Report
Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
Wed,  8 Nov 2017: Aris made 18 pledges (thanks a bunch, Aris)
Thu,  9 Nov 2017: Cuddlebeam pointed a finger at o. for abuse of power
Sat, 11 Nov 2017: Alexis made a pledge
Mon, 13 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at o. found SHENANIGANS#
Time of Last Report
Fri, 17 Nov 2017: Corona made a pledge.
Sun, 19 Nov 2017: Aris withdrew 18 pledges.
Mon, 20 Nov 2017: Red Card issued by Summary Judgement to V.J. Rada for
breaking R2491
Tue, 21 Nov 2017: OscarMeyr made a pledge (yes, non-players can own them)
Tue, 21 Nov 2017: Green Card issued by Summary Judgement to 天火狐
for Tardiness



[1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Green Cards:
Player   On Reason
---
P.S.S.[1]    May 16, 2017   Tardiness
P.S.S.[1]    May 20, 2017   Ambiguity
Murphy   Jun 22, 2017   Faking
Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
o    Jul 11, 2017   Tardiness
V.J Rada Jul 14, 2017   Making My Eyes Bleed
o    Jul 18, 2017   Tardiness
o    Jul 29, 2017   Tardiness
Gaelan   Jul 29, 2017   Late Judgement
o    Sep  4, 2017   Rule 2498
Quazie   Sep  7, 2017   Rule 2201
天火狐    Sep 12, 2017   No reason
o    Sep 12, 2017   Rule 2426
o    Sep 12, 2017   Rule 2478
V.J Rada Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2496
nichdel  Sep 20, 2017   Rule 2450
o    Sep 20, 2017   Rule 2478
o    Sep 22, 2017   Rule 2426
V.J Rada Sep 24, 2017   Rule 2143
CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
o    Sep 26, 2017   Rule 2426
P.S.S.[1]    Sep 27, 2017   Rule 2143
V.J Rada Oct  3, 2017   Rule 2471
o    Oct  4, 2017   Rule 2479
Aris Oct 11, 2017   Rule 2143
o    Oct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
o    Oct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
o    Oct 24, 2017   Tardiness
V.J. Rada    Oct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
V.J. Rada    Oct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
o    Oct 31, 2017   R2156 Lateness
天火狐
    Nov 21, 2017:   Tardiness



[1] Named, in full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.


Blue Cards

Player    On Reason    Fine
---
ATMunn    Nov 6, 2017    Quorum Not Stated {2sh}
Alexis    Nov 6, 2017    Quorum Not Stated {2sh}

Fines in {} indicate no Fine Levied. Fines in [] indicate Fine Levied,
but not paid

Yellow Cards:


Player    Until  Reason   Apology Words
---
Quazie   (Apr 26, 2017)  Bankruptcy
o    (Apr 22, 2017)  Tardiness
o    (Jul 15, 2017)  Tardiness
o    (Jul 15, 2017)  Tardiness
CuddleBeam    Jul 16, 2017   Tardiness
P.S.S.[1] Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2143
o    (Aug 23, 2017)  Rule 2491
Quazie   (Sep 13, 2017)  Rule 2450
V.J Rada (Sep 15, 2017)  Being bad
Gaelan    Nov 24, 2017   Tardiness
Nichdel   Dec  6, 2017   PCI[2]    [3]

[1] Named, in full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
[2] Pledge Called In
[3] nichdel's apology words are: "I, will, not, break, any, pledges,
or, be, untimely, sorry."
Dates in () indicate completed apology.

Red Cards:

Player   On Reason
--
Cuddlebeam   Jul 21, 2017   Faking
V.J. Rada    Nov 20, 2017   R2491



DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2017-11-20 Thread ATMunn

2 things:
first of all, in my next ADoP report, should I just note this as one report or 
a report and a revision?

Also, 14 days have passed since your intent to levy fines on me and Alexis.
Here's the problem: Rule 2506 states that

"When a Blue Card is issued, as a penalty, within the next 7 days, any player CAN 
once, with 2 Support, Levy a Fine upon the bad sport."

It has been far more than 7 days since the blue card was issued. So, will these 
fines be forever left unpaid?

On 11/20/2017 7:46 PM, VJ Rada wrote:

This is the (better formatted) Referee's Weekly Report. Referee's
notes are obviously not part of the text of pledges.

Really slow week.


Date of this report: 21 Nov 2017
Date of last report: 14 Nov 2017

Recent events:
Sat, 4 Nov 2017: nichdel pointed a finger at emself for breaking a pledge.
Sat, 4 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at nichdel found SHENANIGANS
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Yellow Card issued to nichdel for Broken Pledge
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: PSS[1] pointed a finger at ATMunn for Quorum Not Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to ATMunn for Quorum Not
Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Trigon made a pledge
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Aris pointed a finger at Alexis for Quorum Not Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: Blue Card (2 shinies) issued to Alexis for Quorum Not
Stated
Mon, 6 Nov 2017: ATMunn made a pledge
Tue, 7 Nov 2017: Two pledges owned by o destroyed
Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
Tue, 7 Nov 2017: o made a pledge
Previous Report
Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
Tue   7 Nov 2017: V.J. Rada made a pledge
Wed,  8 Nov 2017: Aris made 18 pledges (thanks a bunch, Aris)
Thu,  9 Nov 2017: Cuddlebeam pointed a finger at o. for abuse of power
Sat, 11 Nov 2017: Alexis made a pledge
Mon, 13 Nov 2017: Finger pointed at o. found SHENANIGANS#
Time of Last Report
Fri, 17 Nov 2017: Corona made a pledge.
Sun, 19 Nov 2017: Aris withdrew 18 pledges.
Mon, 20 Nov 2017: Red Card issued by Summary Judgement to V.J. Rada for
breaking R2491
Tue, 21 Nov 2017: OscarMeyr made a pledge (yes, non-players can own them)
Tue, 21 Nov 2017: Green Card issued by Summary Judgement to 天火狐
for Tardiness



[1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Green Cards:
Player   On Reason
---
P.S.S.[1]May 16, 2017   Tardiness
P.S.S.[1]May 20, 2017   Ambiguity
Murphy   Jun 22, 2017   Faking
Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
Gaelan   Jun 23, 2017   Tardiness
oJul 11, 2017   Tardiness
V.J Rada Jul 14, 2017   Making My Eyes Bleed
oJul 18, 2017   Tardiness
oJul 29, 2017   Tardiness
Gaelan   Jul 29, 2017   Late Judgement
oSep  4, 2017   Rule 2498
Quazie   Sep  7, 2017   Rule 2201
天火狐Sep 12, 2017   No reason
oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2426
oSep 12, 2017   Rule 2478
V.J Rada Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2496
nichdel  Sep 20, 2017   Rule 2450
oSep 20, 2017   Rule 2478
oSep 22, 2017   Rule 2426
V.J Rada Sep 24, 2017   Rule 2143
CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
CuddleBeam   Sep 26, 2017   No reason
oSep 26, 2017   Rule 2426
P.S.S.[1]Sep 27, 2017   Rule 2143
V.J Rada Oct  3, 2017   Rule 2471
oOct  4, 2017   Rule 2479
Aris Oct 11, 2017   Rule 2143
oOct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
oOct 11, 2017   Rule 2456
oOct 24, 2017   Tardiness
V.J. RadaOct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
V.J. RadaOct 24, 2017   No Finger Response
oOct 31, 2017   R2156 Lateness
天火狐
Nov 21, 2017:   Tardiness



[1] Named, in full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.


Blue Cards

PlayerOn ReasonFine
---
ATMunnNov 6, 2017Quorum Not Stated {2sh}
AlexisNov 6, 2017Quorum Not Stated {2sh}

Fines in {} indicate no Fine Levied. Fines in [] indicate Fine Levied,
but not paid

Yellow Cards:


PlayerUntil  Reason   Apology Words
---
Quazie   (Apr 26, 2017)  Bankruptcy
o(Apr 22, 2017)  Tardiness
o(Jul 15, 2017)  Tardiness
o(Jul 15, 2017)  Tardiness
CuddleBeamJul 16, 2017   Tardiness
P.S.S.[1] Sep 15, 2017   Rule 2143
o(Aug 23, 2017)  Rule 2491
Quazie   (Sep 13, 2017)  Rule 2450
V.J Rada (Sep 15, 2017)  Being bad
GaelanNov 24, 2017   Tardiness
Nichdel   Dec  6, 2017   PCI[2][3]

[1] Named, in full, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
[2] Pledge Called In
[3] nichdel's apology words are: "I, will, not, break, any, pledges,
or, be, untimely, sorry."
Dates in () indicate completed apology.

Red Cards:

Player   On Reason
--
Cuddlebeam   Jul 21, 2017   Faking
V.J. RadaNov 20, 2017   R2491


Pink Slips:

Player   On Office   Reason


DIS: Re: BUS: Herald election

2017-11-20 Thread Kerim Aydin


Really nice to finally put back a requirement to track theses!  (even
if it's just a SHOULD)  It's nobody's job now, a long time ago it used 
to be the Rulekeepor funnily enough:
>  The Rulekeepor shall retain a copy of each Thesis approved by
>  its Thesis Committee.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> I submit the below campaign proposal, but remain uncommitted:
> Title: History by Force
> AI: 1
> Enact a new Rule "Miscellaneous Herald Duties", with the following text:
> {
>     The Herald SHALL in eir weekly report include an interesting Agoran
>     fact and SHALL in eir monthly report include a short essay of any
>     authorship, regarding an aspect of Agoran history. Any player
>     publishing a thesis for a degree, related to Agoran history SHOULD
>     offer a summary for publication in the Herald's monthly report.
> 
>     The Herald SHALL in eir monthly report publish, with reasonable
>     effort, a summary of all theses written for the purpose of
>     receiving degrees, regardless of whether a degree was awarded.
>     The Herald SHOULD attempt to make theses available for reading.
> }
> On 11/20/2017 12:32 PM, Corona wrote:
> > I nominate myself for Herald, as, if what G. said about that office
> > being best for new players is true, surely I, the newest player, am
> > the best choice for Herald! (I should point a finger at myself for
> > that logic)
> >
> > Also, I don't hold any office, so no consolidation of offices here
> 
> -- 
> 
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> 
> 
>


DIS: Re: BUS: Green Card to 天火狐

2017-11-20 Thread ATMunn

darnit, I was just about to point my finger at em. :P

On 11/20/2017 7:13 PM, VJ Rada wrote:

I issue 天火狐 a Green Card by Summary Judgement for not publishing a Reportor
report last week. This would be a green card anyway, but note the
mitigating circumstance: I agreed to write eir reports.



Re: DIS: Become Herald!

2017-11-20 Thread Madeline
I was honestly pretty tempted to, but about to become Clork and that 
seems hectic enough :P



On 2017-11-21 03:10, Kerim Aydin wrote:


On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, ATMunn wrote:

Office Holder   Since Last Election
-
Herald VACANT   2017-11-17[4] Ongoing
-

Herald is a great office for a first-time officeholder.  Easy
to track, and fun to find creative ways to add color to the game.

Nominate for Herald Today!







Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report: 2017-11-20 (now with event logs!)

2017-11-20 Thread VJ Rada
I contracted to do it (or not to do it, but to informally do it and have
Fire-Fox publish it).

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:50 AM, ATMunn  wrote:

> How is it your fault?
>
>
> On 11/20/2017 3:08 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
>
>> Reportor   天火狐  8 Days 2017-11-19
>>>
>>
>> ​Oh god this is my fault isn't it. Oh dear.​
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 1:39 AM, ATMunn  wrote:
>>
>> You may notice that this week's ADoP report looks a bit different!
>>>
>>> This is because I've done a little bit of reformatting, and added 3 new
>>> sections to the report:
>>> - Report warnings. This will warn people when their next report needs to
>>> be published soon.
>>> - Upcoming elections. This section will the top 5 offices that have had
>>> the longest since their last election, and how long until the next
>>> election
>>> can be started for them.
>>> - Recent events. This is the most major section of all. This section is
>>> similar to that of reports of some other offices. It shows all the
>>> office-related events since the last ADoP report (as well as the events
>>> from 2 previous reports, but I didn't go that far back for this one)
>>> I may still tweak with the reports for a while, but this is roughly the
>>> extent I expect them to be.
>>>
>>> My goal as ADoP is to provide Agora with as much useful info as possible.
>>> For now, anyways, I don't plan to run for any other offices; I instead
>>> plan
>>> to give the ADoP my full attention (as far as offices go) rather than
>>> dividing it between multiple offices. Quality > quantity.
>>>
>>> Ok, enough talk, here's the report.
>>>
>>> As per my weekly duties as ADoP, I hereby publish the following report.
>>>
>>> =Metareport=
>>> You can find all my most recent reports online at
>>> https://agoranomic.org/ADoP/
>>>
>>> This report is effective as of the time of its publishing.
>>>
>>> Date of last report: 2017-11-14
>>> Date of this report: 2017-11-20
>>>
>>>
>>> MISCELLANIOUS INFO
>>>
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Filled offices: 16/17 (94.11%)
>>> Total officers: 9
>>> Consolidation[1]: 1.78
>>> Late reports: 0%
>>> 
>>> -
>>> [1] This is the number of filled offices divided by the number of
>>> officers. At 1, this means that all offices are filled by different
>>> players, and if it ever reaches the current number of offices, all
>>> offices are filled by one player.
>>>
>>>
>>> REPORT WARNINGS[1]
>>>
>>> Office Holder   Days Since[2]  Deadline
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Reportor   天火狐  8 Days 2017-11-19
>>> RefereeV.J. Rada7 Days 2017-11-26
>>> 
>>> -
>>> [1] This is a warning to any officeholders that have had at least 7 days
>>> since eir last weekly report, or at least 30 days since eir last monthly
>>> report, along with the deadline of the absolute latest day eir report
>>> could be published on before e could receive a card.
>>> [2] Days since last report
>>>
>>>
>>> OFFICES
>>>
>>> Office Holder   Since Last Election
>>>   Interim?[3]
>>> 
>>> -
>>> ADoP[1]ATMunn   2017-10-202017-10-20
>>> Agronomist o2017-11-062017-11-06
>>> ArbitorG.   2017-09-152017-09-21
>>> Assessor   PSS[2]   2017-10-122017-10-12
>>> Herald VACANT   2017-11-17[4] Ongoing   Y
>>> Notary o2017-10-222017-10-30
>>> Prime Minister Alexis   2017-10-202017-10-20
>>> Promotor   Aris 2016-10-212017-09-21
>>> RefereeV.J. Rada2017-10-242017-11-07
>>> Registrar  PSS[2]   2017-04-182017-09-21
>>> Regkeepor  Aris 2017-07-062017-09-13
>>> Reportor   天火狐  2017-09-132017-09-13
>>> Rulekeepor Alexis   2017-11-062017-11-06
>>> SpeakerQuazie   2017-10-092014-04-21
>>> Surveyor   o2017-05-082017-11-06
>>> Tailor Alexis   2017-10-012017-10-12
>>> Treasuror  o2016-10-222017-09-21
>>> 
>>> -
>>> [1] Associate Director of Personnel
>>> [2] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> [3] Interim offices are offices that are either vacant, or the holder 

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report: 2017-11-20 (now with event logs!)

2017-11-20 Thread ATMunn

How is it your fault?

On 11/20/2017 3:08 PM, VJ Rada wrote:

Reportor   天火狐  8 Days 2017-11-19


​Oh god this is my fault isn't it. Oh dear.​


On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 1:39 AM, ATMunn  wrote:


You may notice that this week's ADoP report looks a bit different!

This is because I've done a little bit of reformatting, and added 3 new
sections to the report:
- Report warnings. This will warn people when their next report needs to
be published soon.
- Upcoming elections. This section will the top 5 offices that have had
the longest since their last election, and how long until the next election
can be started for them.
- Recent events. This is the most major section of all. This section is
similar to that of reports of some other offices. It shows all the
office-related events since the last ADoP report (as well as the events
from 2 previous reports, but I didn't go that far back for this one)
I may still tweak with the reports for a while, but this is roughly the
extent I expect them to be.

My goal as ADoP is to provide Agora with as much useful info as possible.
For now, anyways, I don't plan to run for any other offices; I instead plan
to give the ADoP my full attention (as far as offices go) rather than
dividing it between multiple offices. Quality > quantity.

Ok, enough talk, here's the report.

As per my weekly duties as ADoP, I hereby publish the following report.

=Metareport=
You can find all my most recent reports online at
https://agoranomic.org/ADoP/

This report is effective as of the time of its publishing.

Date of last report: 2017-11-14
Date of this report: 2017-11-20


MISCELLANIOUS INFO


-
Filled offices: 16/17 (94.11%)
Total officers: 9
Consolidation[1]: 1.78
Late reports: 0%

-
[1] This is the number of filled offices divided by the number of
officers. At 1, this means that all offices are filled by different
players, and if it ever reaches the current number of offices, all
offices are filled by one player.


REPORT WARNINGS[1]

Office Holder   Days Since[2]  Deadline

-
Reportor   天火狐  8 Days 2017-11-19
RefereeV.J. Rada7 Days 2017-11-26

-
[1] This is a warning to any officeholders that have had at least 7 days
since eir last weekly report, or at least 30 days since eir last monthly
report, along with the deadline of the absolute latest day eir report
could be published on before e could receive a card.
[2] Days since last report


OFFICES

Office Holder   Since Last Election
  Interim?[3]

-
ADoP[1]ATMunn   2017-10-202017-10-20
Agronomist o2017-11-062017-11-06
ArbitorG.   2017-09-152017-09-21
Assessor   PSS[2]   2017-10-122017-10-12
Herald VACANT   2017-11-17[4] Ongoing   Y
Notary o2017-10-222017-10-30
Prime Minister Alexis   2017-10-202017-10-20
Promotor   Aris 2016-10-212017-09-21
RefereeV.J. Rada2017-10-242017-11-07
Registrar  PSS[2]   2017-04-182017-09-21
Regkeepor  Aris 2017-07-062017-09-13
Reportor   天火狐  2017-09-132017-09-13
Rulekeepor Alexis   2017-11-062017-11-06
SpeakerQuazie   2017-10-092014-04-21
Surveyor   o2017-05-082017-11-06
Tailor Alexis   2017-10-012017-10-12
Treasuror  o2016-10-222017-09-21

-
[1] Associate Director of Personnel
[2] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
[3] Interim offices are offices that are either vacant, or the holder of
the office was not elected to that office.
[4] The office has been vacant since this date.


REPORTS

Office Monthly? ReportLast Published
   Late[1]

-
ADoP[2] Offices   2017-11-20
Agronomist  Farms 2017-11-17
Arbitor Judicial matters  2017-11-19
Herald YPatent titles 

Re: DIS: Become Herald!

2017-11-20 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I concur. It is easy to track and you get to dive into history.

On 11/20/2017 11:10 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, ATMunn wrote:
>> Office Holder   Since Last Election
>> -
>> Herald VACANT   2017-11-17[4] Ongoing   
>> -
> Herald is a great office for a first-time officeholder.  Easy 
> to track, and fun to find creative ways to add color to the game.
>
> Nominate for Herald Today!
>
>
>

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus




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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Herald election

2017-11-20 Thread VJ Rada
I made great use of my campaign proposal. IDK what all these other scrubs
are doing haha.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Alex Smith wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-11-20 at 09:48 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > > You can see how it would work better for hard-coded matters of
> > > economic policy:  "if elected, I'll double the supply of land/halve
> > > the cost of pending proposals" or whatever (though if most of the
> > > campaign proposals are like that, there was a lightweight version
> > > called 'budgets' that we used to do).
> >
> > That sounds a lot like a Regulation to me. If we decided to make more
> > use of them (and I'm still pretty iffy on the current implementation),
> > we could perhaps have Campaign Regulations (which get promulgated
> > automatically) rather than needing them to be Proposals.
> >
> > (For what it's worth, my preferred version of a Regulation would be a
> > tracked statement that has no Power, but that can define values that
> > rules are capable of inspecting.)
>
> Regulations could work.  The old system was sort-of like this:
>
>   A Budget is a document maintained by an Officer that contains
>   the values of certain switches defined as being part of that
>   Officer's Budget.  The Budget is part of that Officer's Report.
>
>   The Officer maintaining that Budget CAN flip its switches
>   [subject to whatever per-item constraints] Without Objection.
>   [i.e. things can be adjusted at any time, but only with
>full consensus]
>
>   A nominee SHOULD submit a Prototype Budget with legal values
>   for all the budget's switches.  These are included in the
>   Election Decision initiation.   When the winner is installed
>   in office, the switches are all flipped to the values in the
>   winner's Prototype. [no separate voting process needed]
>
> In the current system, the Treasuror's Budget would include
> Supply Level, Pend Cost, CFJ Cost, Officer Rewards, etc. instead
> of them being hard-coded in Rules.
>
> In a decentralized system, you split this among Officers, so
> the Treasuror controls the Supply Level, the Arbitor the CFJ cost,
> the Promotor the Pend cost, the ADoP the Officer salary, etc.,
> all as part of their separate Budgets.
>
>
>
>


-- 
>From V.J. Rada


DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report: 2017-11-20 (now with event logs!)

2017-11-20 Thread VJ Rada
>Reportor   天火狐  8 Days 2017-11-19

​Oh god this is my fault isn't it. Oh dear.​


On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 1:39 AM, ATMunn  wrote:

> You may notice that this week's ADoP report looks a bit different!
>
> This is because I've done a little bit of reformatting, and added 3 new
> sections to the report:
> - Report warnings. This will warn people when their next report needs to
> be published soon.
> - Upcoming elections. This section will the top 5 offices that have had
> the longest since their last election, and how long until the next election
> can be started for them.
> - Recent events. This is the most major section of all. This section is
> similar to that of reports of some other offices. It shows all the
> office-related events since the last ADoP report (as well as the events
> from 2 previous reports, but I didn't go that far back for this one)
> I may still tweak with the reports for a while, but this is roughly the
> extent I expect them to be.
>
> My goal as ADoP is to provide Agora with as much useful info as possible.
> For now, anyways, I don't plan to run for any other offices; I instead plan
> to give the ADoP my full attention (as far as offices go) rather than
> dividing it between multiple offices. Quality > quantity.
>
> Ok, enough talk, here's the report.
>
> As per my weekly duties as ADoP, I hereby publish the following report.
>
> =Metareport=
> You can find all my most recent reports online at
> https://agoranomic.org/ADoP/
>
> This report is effective as of the time of its publishing.
>
> Date of last report: 2017-11-14
> Date of this report: 2017-11-20
>
>
> MISCELLANIOUS INFO
>
> 
> -
> Filled offices: 16/17 (94.11%)
> Total officers: 9
> Consolidation[1]: 1.78
> Late reports: 0%
> 
> -
> [1] This is the number of filled offices divided by the number of
> officers. At 1, this means that all offices are filled by different
> players, and if it ever reaches the current number of offices, all
> offices are filled by one player.
>
>
> REPORT WARNINGS[1]
>
> Office Holder   Days Since[2]  Deadline
> 
> -
> Reportor   天火狐  8 Days 2017-11-19
> RefereeV.J. Rada7 Days 2017-11-26
> 
> -
> [1] This is a warning to any officeholders that have had at least 7 days
> since eir last weekly report, or at least 30 days since eir last monthly
> report, along with the deadline of the absolute latest day eir report
> could be published on before e could receive a card.
> [2] Days since last report
>
>
> OFFICES
>
> Office Holder   Since Last Election
>  Interim?[3]
> 
> -
> ADoP[1]ATMunn   2017-10-202017-10-20
> Agronomist o2017-11-062017-11-06
> ArbitorG.   2017-09-152017-09-21
> Assessor   PSS[2]   2017-10-122017-10-12
> Herald VACANT   2017-11-17[4] Ongoing   Y
> Notary o2017-10-222017-10-30
> Prime Minister Alexis   2017-10-202017-10-20
> Promotor   Aris 2016-10-212017-09-21
> RefereeV.J. Rada2017-10-242017-11-07
> Registrar  PSS[2]   2017-04-182017-09-21
> Regkeepor  Aris 2017-07-062017-09-13
> Reportor   天火狐  2017-09-132017-09-13
> Rulekeepor Alexis   2017-11-062017-11-06
> SpeakerQuazie   2017-10-092014-04-21
> Surveyor   o2017-05-082017-11-06
> Tailor Alexis   2017-10-012017-10-12
> Treasuror  o2016-10-222017-09-21
> 
> -
> [1] Associate Director of Personnel
> [2] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> [3] Interim offices are offices that are either vacant, or the holder of
> the office was not elected to that office.
> [4] The office has been vacant since this date.
>
>
> REPORTS
>
> Office Monthly? ReportLast Published
>   Late[1]
> 
> -
> ADoP[2] Offices   2017-11-20
> Agronomist  Farms 2017-11-17
> 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Herald election

2017-11-20 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-11-20 at 09:48 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > You can see how it would work better for hard-coded matters of 
> > economic policy:  "if elected, I'll double the supply of land/halve
> > the cost of pending proposals" or whatever (though if most of the
> > campaign proposals are like that, there was a lightweight version
> > called 'budgets' that we used to do).
> 
> That sounds a lot like a Regulation to me. If we decided to make more
> use of them (and I'm still pretty iffy on the current implementation),
> we could perhaps have Campaign Regulations (which get promulgated
> automatically) rather than needing them to be Proposals.
> 
> (For what it's worth, my preferred version of a Regulation would be a
> tracked statement that has no Power, but that can define values that
> rules are capable of inspecting.)

Regulations could work.  The old system was sort-of like this:

  A Budget is a document maintained by an Officer that contains
  the values of certain switches defined as being part of that
  Officer's Budget.  The Budget is part of that Officer's Report.

  The Officer maintaining that Budget CAN flip its switches
  [subject to whatever per-item constraints] Without Objection.
  [i.e. things can be adjusted at any time, but only with
   full consensus]

  A nominee SHOULD submit a Prototype Budget with legal values
  for all the budget's switches.  These are included in the
  Election Decision initiation.   When the winner is installed
  in office, the switches are all flipped to the values in the
  winner's Prototype. [no separate voting process needed]

In the current system, the Treasuror's Budget would include
Supply Level, Pend Cost, CFJ Cost, Officer Rewards, etc. instead
of them being hard-coded in Rules.

In a decentralized system, you split this among Officers, so
the Treasuror controls the Supply Level, the Arbitor the CFJ cost,
the Promotor the Pend cost, the ADoP the Officer salary, etc.,
all as part of their separate Budgets.





Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Herald election

2017-11-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-11-20 at 09:48 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> You can see how it would work better for hard-coded matters of 
> economic policy:  "if elected, I'll double the supply of land/halve
> the cost of pending proposals" or whatever (though if most of the
> campaign proposals are like that, there was a lightweight version
> called 'budgets' that we used to do).

That sounds a lot like a Regulation to me. If we decided to make more
use of them (and I'm still pretty iffy on the current implementation),
we could perhaps have Campaign Regulations (which get promulgated
automatically) rather than needing them to be Proposals.

(For what it's worth, my preferred version of a Regulation would be a
tracked statement that has no Power, but that can define values that
rules are capable of inspecting.)

-- 
ais523


DIS: Re: BUS: Herald election

2017-11-20 Thread Corona
Also, what is the point of campaign proposals? (Except for proposing
overpowered powers for yourself and ensuring nobody else gets them)
Seems like tying a proposal coming into force to your being elected
will lower the chances of either happening; players who like one, but
not the other are IMO more likely to vote against both than if you ran
for an election and submitted a proposal separately.

On 11/20/17, Corona  wrote:
> I nominate myself for Herald, as, if what G. said about that office
> being best for new players is true, surely I, the newest player, am
> the best choice for Herald! (I should point a finger at myself for
> that logic)
>
> Also, I don't hold any office, so no consolidation of offices here
>


Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Become Herald!

2017-11-20 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> By announcement I make all players candidates.

(this fails and does nothing)





Re: DIS: Become Herald!

2017-11-20 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Kerim Aydin 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, ATMunn wrote:
> > Office Holder   Since Last Election
> > 
> -
> > Herald VACANT   2017-11-17[4] Ongoing
> > 
> -
>
> Herald is a great office for a first-time officeholder.  Easy
> to track, and fun to find creative ways to add color to the game.
>
> Nominate for Herald Today!
>

If nominated, I pledge not to qualify.

OscarMeyr, still having enough time to kibitz but not enough to play.


DIS: Become Herald!

2017-11-20 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, ATMunn wrote:
> Office Holder   Since Last Election
> -
> Herald VACANT   2017-11-17[4] Ongoing   
> -

Herald is a great office for a first-time officeholder.  Easy 
to track, and fun to find creative ways to add color to the game.

Nominate for Herald Today!





Re: DIS: PAoaM v3: Not rushed this time and also better in general

2017-11-20 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Sun, 19 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Reuben Staley  
> wrote:
> >   1. every player with an amount of papers less than 2 an amount of
> >  papers so that eir paper balance is equal to 2.
> >
> > [ This makes it so that impoverished players can move a little each week
> >   and make some proposals. ]
> 
> I now present the Aris Asset Holding Contract (AAHC):
> 
> {Aris CAN amend, repeal, or retitle this contract by announcement.
> This contract accepts all assets. Aris can cause this contract to
> transfer any asset in its possession by announcement.}
> 
> Then I transfer all of my papers and apples to the AAHC every week.
> I'm not really sure how to get around this problem without using
> something along the lines of effective control (see the blue cards
> rule).

Needs-based supply for the "poor" is one of the big failings of the
current system, to get rid of.  Just give everyone something each X,
but less (e.g. 2/month, not 2/week).

Even without the hole you mention, this ends the economy in terms 
of playing it.  2 paper/week is more than I need, you give it back
when I use it, I never have to participate.  Give everyone 2/month,
regardless of need, and they need to budget, and then to earn
more they need to participate.







Re: DIS: PAoaM v3: Not rushed this time and also better in general

2017-11-20 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Sun, 19 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> > My main motivation - we've literally spent the last few months on shiny
> > bugs, ironed many out, and I'm just paranoid about going through such
> > a thing again.  It's *really* good to run through some cycles and
> > say "yep, it all works" before you trust Pending and CFJing.  (That's
> > what AP were meant to be, the temporary "we know it works" kludge while
> > we were testing shinies - my shinies proposal basically finishes that
> > phase off by repealing AP).
> >
> 
> I'm not sure shinies are a good or fair starting point. I just go a
> bunch of money, partly because I invested in a stamp, but partly
> because I happened to be around and able to respond quickly to the
> situation before money ran out.

Not arguing against a shiny reset - I think the current holdings are
all over the place.  Main thing is they exist and can kickstart things
quickly.

> Also, keeping shinies around as a way to pay for things might
> discourage people from investing in the new economy, because what's
> the point in getting paper if you can do everything it can more
> cheaply with shinies?

The proto currently keeps AP which is the biggest brake of all.

> Another random late night thought: why not give everyone a free piece
> of unoccupied land in the welcome package? It would give them a way to
> start participating in the new economy, rather than having to wait to
> win an auction.

I think we should start with competitive gameplay to get people bought
in.  A massive auction to drain current shinies, selling pretty much
enough land to everyone who participates gets one.  If you hand one 
thing to everyone for free, people will shrug/ignore and not value it.
If you have slow-paced auctions (like current land), then a few will
get lucky and things will then stagnate.

But hold a huge buy-in auction?  With shinies to go away if not used
in the auction?  That's actual gameplay and people are far more likely 
to jump in and then value their purchases.





Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report: 2017-11-20 (now with event logs!)

2017-11-20 Thread ATMunn

I think that's what I had it at before, but a few people said they preferred 
this way. I'm not sure what the majority of people actually want. :P

On 11/20/2017 9:44 AM, Madeline wrote:

This looks pretty cool :D
I think I prefer the consolidation number as a "diversity" percentage, but 
that's just a minor quibble.


On 2017-11-21 01:39, ATMunn wrote:

You may notice that this week's ADoP report looks a bit different!

This is because I've done a little bit of reformatting, and added 3 new 
sections to the report:
- Report warnings. This will warn people when their next report needs to be 
published soon.
- Upcoming elections. This section will the top 5 offices that have had the 
longest since their last election, and how long until the next election can be 
started for them.
- Recent events. This is the most major section of all. This section is similar 
to that of reports of some other offices. It shows all the office-related 
events since the last ADoP report (as well as the events from 2 previous 
reports, but I didn't go that far back for this one)
I may still tweak with the reports for a while, but this is roughly the extent 
I expect them to be.

My goal as ADoP is to provide Agora with as much useful info as possible. For now, 
anyways, I don't plan to run for any other offices; I instead plan to give the 
ADoP my full attention (as far as offices go) rather than dividing it between 
multiple offices. Quality > quantity.

Ok, enough talk, here's the report.

As per my weekly duties as ADoP, I hereby publish the following report.

=Metareport=
You can find all my most recent reports online at https://agoranomic.org/ADoP/

This report is effective as of the time of its publishing.

Date of last report: 2017-11-14
Date of this report: 2017-11-20


MISCELLANIOUS INFO

-
Filled offices: 16/17 (94.11%)
Total officers: 9
Consolidation[1]: 1.78
Late reports: 0%
-
[1] This is the number of filled offices divided by the number of
officers. At 1, this means that all offices are filled by different
players, and if it ever reaches the current number of offices, all
offices are filled by one player.


REPORT WARNINGS[1]

Office Holder   Days Since[2]  Deadline
-
Reportor   天火狐  8 Days 2017-11-19
Referee    V.J. Rada    7 Days 2017-11-26
-
[1] This is a warning to any officeholders that have had at least 7 days
since eir last weekly report, or at least 30 days since eir last monthly
report, along with the deadline of the absolute latest day eir report
could be published on before e could receive a card.
[2] Days since last report


OFFICES

Office Holder   Since Last Election Interim?[3]
-
ADoP[1]    ATMunn   2017-10-20    2017-10-20
Agronomist o    2017-11-06    2017-11-06
Arbitor    G.   2017-09-15    2017-09-21
Assessor   PSS[2]   2017-10-12    2017-10-12
Herald VACANT   2017-11-17[4] Ongoing   Y
Notary o    2017-10-22    2017-10-30
Prime Minister Alexis   2017-10-20    2017-10-20
Promotor   Aris 2016-10-21    2017-09-21
Referee    V.J. Rada    2017-10-24    2017-11-07
Registrar  PSS[2]   2017-04-18    2017-09-21
Regkeepor  Aris 2017-07-06    2017-09-13
Reportor   天火狐  2017-09-13    2017-09-13
Rulekeepor Alexis   2017-11-06    2017-11-06
Speaker    Quazie   2017-10-09    2014-04-21
Surveyor   o    2017-05-08    2017-11-06
Tailor Alexis   2017-10-01    2017-10-12
Treasuror  o    2016-10-22    2017-09-21
-
[1] Associate Director of Personnel
[2] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
[3] Interim offices are offices that are either vacant, or the holder of
the office was not elected to that office.
[4] The office has been vacant since this date.


REPORTS

Office Monthly? Report    Last Published    
Late[1]
-
ADoP[2] Offices 2017-11-20
Agronomist  Farms 2017-11-17
Arbitor Judicial matters 2017-11-19

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report: 2017-11-20 (now with event logs!)

2017-11-20 Thread Madeline

This looks pretty cool :D
I think I prefer the consolidation number as a "diversity" percentage, 
but that's just a minor quibble.



On 2017-11-21 01:39, ATMunn wrote:

You may notice that this week's ADoP report looks a bit different!

This is because I've done a little bit of reformatting, and added 3 
new sections to the report:
- Report warnings. This will warn people when their next report needs 
to be published soon.
- Upcoming elections. This section will the top 5 offices that have 
had the longest since their last election, and how long until the next 
election can be started for them.
- Recent events. This is the most major section of all. This section 
is similar to that of reports of some other offices. It shows all the 
office-related events since the last ADoP report (as well as the 
events from 2 previous reports, but I didn't go that far back for this 
one)
I may still tweak with the reports for a while, but this is roughly 
the extent I expect them to be.


My goal as ADoP is to provide Agora with as much useful info as 
possible. For now, anyways, I don't plan to run for any other offices; 
I instead plan to give the ADoP my full attention (as far as offices 
go) rather than dividing it between multiple offices. Quality > quantity.


Ok, enough talk, here's the report.

As per my weekly duties as ADoP, I hereby publish the following report.

=Metareport=
You can find all my most recent reports online at 
https://agoranomic.org/ADoP/


This report is effective as of the time of its publishing.

Date of last report: 2017-11-14
Date of this report: 2017-11-20


MISCELLANIOUS INFO

- 


Filled offices: 16/17 (94.11%)
Total officers: 9
Consolidation[1]: 1.78
Late reports: 0%
- 


[1] This is the number of filled offices divided by the number of
officers. At 1, this means that all offices are filled by different
players, and if it ever reaches the current number of offices, all
offices are filled by one player.


REPORT WARNINGS[1]

Office Holder   Days Since[2]  Deadline
- 


Reportor   天火狐  8 Days 2017-11-19
Referee    V.J. Rada    7 Days 2017-11-26
- 


[1] This is a warning to any officeholders that have had at least 7 days
since eir last weekly report, or at least 30 days since eir last monthly
report, along with the deadline of the absolute latest day eir report
could be published on before e could receive a card.
[2] Days since last report


OFFICES

Office Holder   Since Last Election 
Interim?[3]
- 


ADoP[1]    ATMunn   2017-10-20    2017-10-20
Agronomist o    2017-11-06    2017-11-06
Arbitor    G.   2017-09-15    2017-09-21
Assessor   PSS[2]   2017-10-12    2017-10-12
Herald VACANT   2017-11-17[4] Ongoing   Y
Notary o    2017-10-22    2017-10-30
Prime Minister Alexis   2017-10-20    2017-10-20
Promotor   Aris 2016-10-21    2017-09-21
Referee    V.J. Rada    2017-10-24    2017-11-07
Registrar  PSS[2]   2017-04-18    2017-09-21
Regkeepor  Aris 2017-07-06    2017-09-13
Reportor   天火狐  2017-09-13    2017-09-13
Rulekeepor Alexis   2017-11-06    2017-11-06
Speaker    Quazie   2017-10-09    2014-04-21
Surveyor   o    2017-05-08    2017-11-06
Tailor Alexis   2017-10-01    2017-10-12
Treasuror  o    2016-10-22    2017-09-21
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[1] Associate Director of Personnel
[2] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
[3] Interim offices are offices that are either vacant, or the holder of
the office was not elected to that office.
[4] The office has been vacant since this date.


REPORTS

Office Monthly? Report    Last 
Published    Late[1]
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ADoP[2] Offices 2017-11-20
Agronomist  Farms 2017-11-17
Arbitor Judicial matters 2017-11-19
Herald Y    Patent titles 2017-10-27
Herald  Matters of Honour 2017-11-12
Notary