, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now,
I was asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the
star's
Great, it's cool to see the ccards alive and kicking :).
2007/1/20, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
btw, you can now do a :
::config::setKey spacesinfo ccard
then start clicking on those ugly large stars to see the ccard in action. It
could help in choosing.
If we go with option 3
croping text in replies is a good idea I think, it's becoming incredibly long,
lol
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 10:13:54AM +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote:
2007/1/20, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[cut]
actually, dualdisplaypic is aimed to be one of the core plugins, I remember
we discussed it
how do you like them ? I removed the animation that makes the ccard expand, but
it's not important right, it's
just eye candy, and it already got enough eye candy :p
now all it needs is some code cleaning so we know how many lines it will take,
and where to place each
thumbnail, etc.. also,
well, you're wrong, it has nothing to do with the tooltip, a tooltip is a
tooltip, a ccard is a ccard. and we
won't replace one with another. About clicking, sorry but if you don't want to
click anywhere to display
anything, then you don't know how to use a pc :p j/k, seriously though, it's
Youness Alaoui wrote:
how do you like them ? I removed the animation that makes the ccard
expand,
nnnoouuuhhh, I used to like that :P
make sure
the nickname is truncated (WLM truncates it in the ccard) to one
line, and enhance it a bit.
If you truncate the nick I'd like at least
Title: FirmaEmail
NoWhereMan escribi:
look at what Gus did for the ccard :
http://amsn.lnxteam.org/downloads/draft/aMSN-ccard_Plugin.png
it looks nice right? :D
nice one. the decoration is a bit too tick for my tastes, though
Yeah well, that was the first test...
as I said in the commit log and I also sent a mail to specifically say how to
do it.
Open the console (Ctrl-C) and type :
::config::setKey spacesinfo ccard
KKRT
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 03:49:38PM -0300, Gustavo A. Diaz wrote:
NoWhereMan escribio':
look at what Gus did for the ccard :
- Original Message -
From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I THOUGHT I ASKED FOR A POLL!
So now
, 2007 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I THOUGHT I ASKED FOR A POLL!
So now, everyone, stop slacking off, stop being inactive for just once and
vote in the damn poll :
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using
ok sorry
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
Karel
Yoda (second choice)
3 - having both with either one as default
NoWhereMan
Yoda (first choice), inline as default
4 - having both with the popup window asking the
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
Karel
Yoda (second choice)
3 - having both with either one as default
NoWhereMan
Yoda (first choice), inline as default
Vivia, ccard as default
4 - having both with the popup
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
Karel
Yoda (second choice)
Tjikkun (1st)
3 - having both with either one as default
NoWhereMan
Yoda (first choice), inline as default
Tjikkun (2nd), inline default
4 - having both
Vivia's vote skipped by Tjikkun, readding entry
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
Karel
Yoda (second choice)
Tjikkun (1st)
3 - having both with either one as default
NoWhereMan
Yoda (first choice), inline as
I really have lots of mail problems, now i will switch ISP and I hope it
will be better after that. The switch will happen in about 3-4 weeks.
At the moment i receive about 25% mail right away, another 50% with
delay, and the rest... I don't know what happens to it.
On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 10:05
I THOUGHT I ASKED FOR A POLL!
So now, everyone, stop slacking off, stop being inactive for just once and vote
in the damn poll :
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
3 - having both with either one as default
4 -
- Original Message -
From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
ok, Yoday/NWM you don't know our
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Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was
asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the star's
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
Karel
Yoda (second choice)
Tjikkun (1st)
3 - having both with either one as default
NoWhereMan
Yoda (first choice), inline as default
Vivia, ccard as default
Tjikkun (2nd), inline
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
Karel(1st)
Yoda(2nd)
Tjikkun (1st)
3 - having both with either one as default
NoWhereMan (inline)
Yoda(inline) (1st)
Tjikkun (inline) (2nd)
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
Karel(1st)
Yoda(2nd)
Tjikkun (1st)
3 - having both with either one as default
NoWhereMan (inline)
Yoda(inline) (1st)
Tjikkun (inline) (2nd)
Vivia
Hi,
First, I think you should calm down...
Second, you said to stop being inactive... I think I had been clear : I
proposed to start this week end... Is it too slow for you ?
Phil
PS By the way I had been removing all the text widget stuff from the code for
3 days... Just some fixes and it will
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
Karel(1st)
Yoda(2nd)
Tjikkun (1st)
3 - having both with either one as default
NoWhereMan (inline)
Yoda(inline) (1st)
Tjikkun (inline) (2nd)
Vivia
I am calm, I was yelling at myself for forgetting to put up the poll, secondly,
about the 'stop being inactive', you should
read the whole sentence, I said for just once and vote in other words, I
didn't want the poll to stay unanswered or get only
2 votes or whatever, that's what I meant by
5-, if you have another idea, tell us, but
outside the poll (still vote in it, just add a seaprate mail for explaining
the other alternative), BUT make sure to ALSO vote for one of the 4
suggestions you like best because if your 'other' idea is rejected, you
would have lost your vote and I
Seems like that message was not pointed at me, disregard this
2007/1/19, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I was not talking about that. Did you say you were going to implement
Contactcards ? I don't think so as you said you disliked 'm.
Second, you said to stop being inactive... I think I had
- Original Message -
From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
5-, if you have another idea, tell us
Nothing...
Phil
Le Friday 19 January 2007 18:45, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
5-, if you have another idea, tell us, but
outside the poll (still vote in it, just add a seaprate mail for
explaining the other alternative), BUT make sure to ALSO vote for one of
the 4 suggestions you like best
lol, I knew you'd say that:p you really hate spaces, right ?;)
KKRT
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 06:56:12PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
Nothing...
Phil
Le Friday 19 January 2007 18:45, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
5-, if you have another idea, tell us, but
outside the poll
They get bounced off, many of the amsn-project.net server emails gett bounced.
I hope you fix your ISP soon! good luck.
KKRT
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 05:48:12PM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote:
I really have lots of mail problems, now i will switch ISP and I hope it
will be better after that.
, 2007 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
5-, if you have another idea, tell us, but
outside the poll (still vote in it, just add a seaprate mail for
explaining
the other alternative), BUT make sure to ALSO vote for one of the 4
suggestions you like best
- Original Message -
From: NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BTW I kind of liked his idea of keeping them all as a plugin and just
providing the reading procs in the core.
The ccard can then stay a plugin as it is, but what about th inline
thingie?
You should then provide a graphical
-
From: Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
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Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I
, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I
was asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the star's
appearance
(Sorry for my inactivity on the subject, we've had internet outages
for a few days due to winds blowing over some cabling near my house.)
* How would you like the spaces to be displayed
1 - using a ccard like WLM
2 - using the inline thing as Karel did
Karel(1st)
Yoda(2nd)
Tjikkun
I'll change my vote if you allow me.. well not change, but actually add a
second choice.
Now that you see what everyone thinks, it is obvious that choice 3 is the
preferred, but inline or ccard as
default is not clear, although inline seems to be winning. If anyone wants to
change his vote,
btw, you can now do a :
::config::setKey spacesinfo ccard
then start clicking on those ugly large stars to see the ccard in action. It
could help in choosing.
If we go with option 3 (probably), we should decide also on how to put that
option available to the user..
KKRT
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at
I noticed that the WLM DP can be accessed when you click on the user's buddy
icon, which itself becomes raised
when you hover it as a sign that when you click on it the ccard will open, I
wonder if we can do this with the
new CL too, no ? I also noticed every user (whether he has a space or
If i'm right (i didn't use msn since a while), in msn what you call ccard
are just what you actually use as tooltips in amsn, so why don't just
replace tooltips by ccard ?
That's a pita to have to click somewhere to display it, and having both
tooltips and ccard is somehow useless and confusing.
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the star's appearance
?
When do we know the blog is read ? When our user clicks the star
Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event
Hi,
I'm replying to you over this thread because you replied to the one concerning
Cristofaro's commit on custom DP
and it's unrelated.
I totally forgot about the fact that we need to login, and I'm not sure on how
to do it either, but here's a
hint, maybe it can help you :
when we connect to
@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was
asking myself ... how do we know when we can unset the
star's
This was a quick mockup I made:
http://student.vub.ac.be/%7Ekmdemeye/mockup_CC.png
Off course the icon/colors should change if it were to be implemented
and the term Blogposts: should change to New posts on $blogname:
or something... but you get the idea. This mockup is better than
WLM's UI in
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the star's appearance ?
When do we know the blog is read ? When our user clicks the star ?
Doesn't the protocol let us know when the blog has no unread items or
unseen photos ?
Karel.
On 13/01/07, NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards
2007/1/13, NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
- Original Message -
From: Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN
@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the star's appearance ?
When do we know the blog is read
@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the star's appearance ?
When do we know
@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the star's appearance ?
When do we
Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was asking
myself
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Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the star's appearance ?
When do we know the blog
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
I just implemented an Event for a changed space. Now, I was asking
myself ... how do we know when we can unset the star's appearance ?
When do we know the blog is read ? When our user clicks the star ?
Doesn't the protocol let us
Youness Alaoui wrote:
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 12:34:17PM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote:
gleams are client-side, so if you set a space to read on a client if
you log in from another pc you should still see blinking gleams.
ok.. NWM, this is speculation :p
actually I don't remember _where_ I read
- Original Message -
From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
ok, my opinion (I already told vivia
OK, Tom (J), commit your work on the stars, u went offline before I could
tell you. Then I need to start correcting the system. That won't affect
anyone who wants to work on displaying the info on the contact card
though, the procs are there and usable :)
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Youness Alaoui
Hi,
I implemented a few procs for this, you can find those in my commit logs.
We might want to add support for tooltips, modified date, styles (pixmaps
+ colors) etc, but that should be easy by copy-pasting and small code
modifications. Now, what's left to be done: (at least, that's the way I
- Original Message -
From: Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
Waiting for your comments (and code contributions :D)
well, it sounds abso-fu**in'-lutely awesome ^^
-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the
A plugin that makes a UI for this info needs:
* an event to say when all initial (on login) data is known (to draw
those stars for example) - maybe what we need already exists (the
event when the CL is drawn or when we are connected for example)
* an event to say when a user has changed is blog
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From: NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Contact Cards and MSN spaces
- Original Message -
From
ok, my opinion (I already told vivia) :
- NO PLUGIN, it should all go in the core
- do not fetch at connect, you should fetch the xml ONLY when the user clicks
(in the meantime, showing a please
wait message like WLM)
- HSB means has blog, yes, but it seems it also means blog is updated, so ALL
- Original Message -
From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I still don't understand :|:|
bang! :D
when your contacts update their blog on live spaces you can see gleams
(blinking stars, or however-you-call-it) near their nick. this doesn't look
like a feature you can add to a
ahh, 100% CLEAR! :D
yes, when requesting information about the blogs, there is a field in the XML :
hasNewItemtrue/hasNewItem which identifies whether there is a new item...
it's server side (since it keeps track of what is 'new' and what is
'already viewed') and not compatible with
On 9/10/06, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
noone cares??? ^o)
are we soon going to see some 'msn spaces' GUI integration with amsn ?
Wohoo! Nice. I´ve quit using MSN (evil proprietary Microsoft-stuff),
only using Jabber now (got my girlfriend and a few others using it ;-)
). But this
Thx for being the only one who cares :p too bad none of the GUI guys do... :'(
I didn't undesrtand what you meant by set our own blog to the
msn-notification.. maybe we can,
if only I understood what you meant, I could answer you :)
thx
KKRT
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:59:56AM +0200, Odin
- Original Message -
From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if only I understood what you meant, I could answer you :)
gleam not only for spaces but for whatever blog you're using. for instance
on nowhereland.it I have my own blog but of course people are not notified
when I
I still don't understand :|:|
KKRT
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 04:24:48PM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if only I understood what you meant, I could answer you :)
gleam not only for spaces but for whatever blog you're
« I´ve quit using MSN (evil proprietary Microsoft-stuff),only using Jabber now (got my girlfriend and a few others using it ;-)).»Same here.That's why i'm not working on aMSN anymore.As odin said, that's a feature I would like to see in aMSN when I was using it !
2006/10/4, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL
noone cares??? ^o)
are we soon going to see some 'msn spaces' GUI integration with amsn ?
KKRT
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:43:15PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
Damn, I forgot to attach the xml file...
p.s.: read my mail, if you don't want to read huge mail and a lot of
explanations, then
Hello all...
I just love SOAP requests!!! the most annoying thing is the authentication, but
now that it's all done, it should be fairly easy to add
new stuff... like msn spaces.. it's been so long awaited but it's finally
here!!!
well.. not completly.. the protocol part is done, we still need
Damn, I forgot to attach the xml file...
p.s.: read my mail, if you don't want to read huge mail and a lot of
explanations, then skip that part...
KKRT
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:42:00PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
Hello all...
I just love SOAP requests!!! the most annoying thing is the
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