Hi Dianne,
Thanks for your reply.I got answer.In third question Can
I set the priority for the application ? I m trying to say that
suppose I m playing one game (or any app) suddenly one call come and
my app will stop.So is call high priority process ?
Thanks regards
Arindam Ghosh
I have an app with Copy Protection on. Since a number of users have
reported being unable to find the app on Market since upgrading to
2.1, I have researched the issue and copy protection seems to be the
culprit.
Turning off copy protection is the answer, but it seems that it leads
to file access
Issue 2261 requests this feature:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2261
Given that the provider is accessible (if permissions are granted),
and there is already a change notification and broadcast on reception,
I wonder why there isn't a change notification or broadcast when a
Hi All,
I want to modify default Search Functionality of Browser on Pressing
Enter Key.
I want that on Pressing Enter Key on the Browser Application(different
views), it will enter a New Line instead of loading a new view and go
into the Search Mode.
Can anyone give directions to do the same.
Using setInputType() on a text view works great for making it editable
but there does not seem to be a way to remove this once set. I tried
setting it to null but still the same issue. Any ideas?
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Hello,
I wan't to send a MMS without any interface.
I know I can send with the Intent android.intent.action.SEND_MSG,
but this action launch the defaut GUI for compose message.
Is there other action / intent for send a MMS ?
tks.
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Hi all,
I have a main TabActivity contains 2 tabs, each tab is an activity.
By default the TabActivity will display the content of the first tab.
From the second tab, a edit form will be pop up as dialog box. Now in
this dialog box, once i click the save button, i would like to
1. close the
I am facing now a strange issue.
What I have done is to perform the consistency checks in the
onSharedPreferenceChanged, and if something is wrong, to reedit the
value that is being changed to the default value (if the user is
trying to enable the mail sending but no mail address is set, I edit
*Hi,*
*
*
*I have a problem while trying to run my app in new Android 2.2 Froyo
emulator and real device Nexus One.*
*The problem is that when I try to call java.nio.channels.Selector.wakeup()
method, it will throw a runtime exception NullPointerException. But this
code works very well on all
thanks, that link is interesting.
Just as behind that link I have to implement a design that contains
of GridViews inside a ScrollView. At least I thought I could leverage
from GridView.
I think that disabling scrolling in gridview / listview is something
most developers expect - as to be seen
:
Hi all,
I am new to Android Developement.
I am going to start writing applications in Android OS?
I would like to know what are all the basic features and apps
available when Android OS is installed in Mobile?
I would like to implement following Apps
Dialer,Contacts,Messaging
Hi,
I would like to know how to install the Android OS on mobile device?
Is there any procedure?
Can any one guide me on that please?
Srini
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Hi all,
I want to force App Widget in portrait mode, as we force our activity
in portrait mode by adding this attribute in Menifest file
android:screenOrientation = portrait.
is there any way to force App Widget in portrait mode??
Thanks in advance.
Gulfam Hassan
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I just found my own solution: passing a parameter into intent to
specify which tab screen to display.
On Jul 5, 3:45 pm, Jeruliu jeru@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have a main TabActivity contains 2 tabs, each tab is an activity.
By default the TabActivity will display the content of the
Hello, I'm trying to make my USER POSITION overlay to rotate according
to the orientation.
Here is the method that calls for the overlay:
protected void createAndShowUserOverlay(Location newLocation) {
ListOverlay useroverlays = mapView.getOverlays();
Hello,
I am trying to implement a login form for an Android application and I
am wondering what options are there.
So far I've tried this:
1. add non-visible input controls to the main layout, and, when the
login form is supposed to appear, I hide the other views and show the
login form
Hi Priyanka,
Thanks for the information.. Now i can able to create and write into
the files..
in the same way can i use this iText to copy the documents like
(.doc,.docx,.ppt)also??
On Jul 4, 11:06 am, priyanka 2priya...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
There is a library called iText which helps
Hi Priyanka,
Thanks for the information.. Now i can able to create and write into
the files..
in the same way can i use this iText to copy the documents like
(.doc,.docx,.ppt)also??
On Jul 4, 11:06 am, priyanka 2priya...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
There is a library called iText which helps
Hi Priyanka,
Thanks for the information.. Now i can able to create and write into
the files..
in the same way can i use this iText to copy the documents like
(.doc,.docx,.ppt)also??
On Jul 4, 11:06 am, priyanka 2priya...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
There is a library called iText which helps
BTW, I'm not specifying screen size or features in the manifest.
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Hello ,
I have following task to do in platform . Can you help me out which layer to
look and how to proceed ?
1. Adding a new audio source or way to input audio .
2 . How to enable audio stack to redirect output to multiple way like ,
moving audio output to
speakers as well as headset ?
Does
Have you considered a custom dialog?
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/dialogs.html#CustomDialog
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Tudor Tihan tudorti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to implement a login form for an Android application and I
am wondering what options are
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Federico Paolinelli fedep...@gmail.com wrote:
However, is there another way to do this? Am I missing something?
You can create a custom preference, perhaps subclassing an existing
one, and implement your business logic there. See here for a custom
View that I
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Gulfam gulfa...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to force App Widget in portrait mode, as we force our activity
in portrait mode by adding this attribute in Menifest file
android:screenOrientation = portrait.
is there any way to force App Widget in portrait
Thanks.
Federico
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Federico Paolinelli fedep...@gmail.com
wrote:
However, is there another way to do this? Am I missing something?
You can create a custom preference, perhaps
I have an issue regarding the use of contacts in my Android
application. I currently do the following:
Intent intent = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_PICK, People.CONTENT_URI);
startActivityForResult(intent, PICK_CONTACT);
which allows me to pick a contact. 2 Questions:
- How do I limit this to only
In my experience, when a user has left a negative comment AND emailed
me, then after a (polite :) ) response from me, they have usually
updated their original comment to be positive. Ok, you could argue
that the fact they have followed up their comment with an email means
they are different from
In my experience, when a user has left a negative comment AND emailed me,
Unfortunately, that and is a big if ...
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05.07.2010 15:36, Mark Carter пишет:
In my experience, when a user has left a negative comment AND emailed
me, then after a (polite :) ) response from me, they have
Precisely, but it indicates that if the user did receive feedback from the
dev, there is a reasonable chance they may change their comment.
On 5 July 2010 13:45, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote:
In my experience, when a user has left a negative comment AND emailed
me,
Mark,
Exactly.
I believe this shows that a way to reply to user comments is needed.
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05.07.2010 15:58, Mark Carter пишет:
Precisely, but it indicates that if the user did receive feedback from
the dev, there is a reasonable chance they may change their comment.
On 5 July 2010
Yes, but I forgot to add it on the list. The problem that I had with
this was that
I couldn't get the editable controls to focus (text entry didn't work
for some reason).
On Jul 5, 1:42 pm, paulb pbizan...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you considered a custom dialog?
Actually i use the IP used by the LAN to identify my machine. Still have the
same issue
2010/7/5 Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.com
Real IP? Which one? The one used by the LAN for identifying your
machine, or the one NAT translates it to for the outside world to see
the same machine?
It really helpful.
Thank you for reply all question that i asked.
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:40 AM, choi devmc...@gmail.com wrote:
Today, i tried to read and write file on the android. but it seems
that file write
Hi Android experts please reply about the pros and cons of using both
thread as well as Service for http connection
On Jul 5, 10:04 am, sagare sagar.ekb...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I am a newbie in android and i had a question whether i should use
a service or thread for http connection and
Hey Guys,
I've made some edits to my application but I'm pretty sure it crashing
is linked to my updating my Nexus One. I've included the error as well
as all code I think is relevant. Anyone got any ideas?
07-05 12:07:04.292: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(5751): FATAL EXCEPTION:
GLThread 11
07-05
hi friends,
i am trying to create a ripple effect one similar to water live
wallpaper in nexus one.please give me direction to acheive it.
Thanks and regards :)
Mansoor
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The consensus seems to be AsyncTask, try that.
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Hi,
I am trying to stream media containing mpeg4 video and AAC audio over
RTSP using ffserver. When I try to connect to the server using VLC
player I get the message:
Your input can't be opened:
VLC is unable to open the MRL 'rtsp://
For anyone needing an answer, apps aren't visible to Donut or Cupcake
if they specify BLUETOOTH or BLUETOOTH_ADMIN it seems... great...
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Hello,
Is there a way to find out whether a proximityAlert exists?
I am allowing the user to add proximityAlerts to be activated sometime
in the future based on alarms. However, the user can change her mind
and remove a proximityAlert. Before removing a proximityAlert I need
to find out
Hello,
Does anyone know of a precise way of measuring 80 milliseconds for
scheduling purposes?
Thread.sleep() and SystemClock.sleep() don't seem accurate enough.
Purpose - I want to schedule a certain event to happen in an exact
interval of 80 milliseconds and I don't want the time to skew
Hi,
I am working on a podcasat player and am looking for a sutable intent
to launch and play a downloaded SWF file. I am on 2.2 and have adobe
flash player installed.
The things i have tried are:
This launces the HTC flash player to select a file:
ComponentName toLaunch = new
Thank you all for your kind responses. I kinda knew about the broadcast for
reception, fact is that, I wanted something for sent sms. But, my bad.
Anyways, is there a log that is maintained by the android for all incomings
and outgoings of sms? I don't mean the inbox content provider!
Thanks
Have you gotten this to work yet? I am interested in this solution
too. From what the docs say, if your headset is A2DP, it should just
work, but that isnt what I found in practice.
Thanks.
On Jun 27, 2:34 pm, jwei512 jwei...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello!
I was wondering if it was possible to route
Hi Mark thanks for your reply,
I have developed a home screen widget.its working fine. When i touch
items on widget like ImageViews and TextViews its open the main
Activity of my application, but when the orientation of phone
changes from portrait to landscape, and land scape to portrait, it
Gulfam,
This is kind of non-obvious to get right, although really pretty simple.
When home screen orientation is changed (is this a Moto Droid /
Milestone, by any chance?) Android uses the most recent RemoveViews
object to recreate widgets, since there is no onCreate() equivalent.
If the
As a follow-up:
I also have some info about this in my blog.
http://kmansoft.wordpress.com/2010/05/23/widgets-and-orientation-changes/
05.07.2010 19:18, Gulfam пишет:
Hi Mark thanks for your reply,
I have developed a home screen widget.its working fine. When i touch
items on widget like
In case anyone is interested on tracking this issue, I opened a new
bug report here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9436q=gallery3dcolspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars
And found similar requests here:
On Jun 30, 1:09 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Lance Nanek lna...@gmail.com wrote:
Often it is pretty easy to add a button to your app's screen that opens the
menu and also lets users know it is available just by being there, at least.
Sure it's
Paypal recently released a mobile payment library for android.
see news at
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/22/paypals-mobile-payments-library-now-available-for-android-too/
https://www.x.com/community/ppx/xspaces/mobile/mep
I recalled that the android market TOS doesn't allow non-google
Thanks Mark. Using a database seems a bit overkill in my case.
I found that I can pass the state of my object in a Bundle by making
it Parcelable.
I'll try that out.
On Jul 3, 10:32 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:28 PM, jul juj...@gmail.com wrote:
I
Hi,
I want to save a list of Parcelable Restaurant objects on
onSaveInstanceState. I created a Restaurant class extending Parcelable
and a RestaurantList object, both shown below. In my main activity I
fill my RestauranList directly from json internet data using GSON:
restaurantList =
Jul,
Parcelable implementation looks good, except for the questionable cast
to ArrayListRestaurant, but that shouldn't have any effect.
What error are you getting, exactly?
-- Kostya
05.07.2010 20:20, jul пишет:
Hi,
I want to save a list of Parcelable Restaurant objects on
Hi vandzi.
Im having the exact same problem. Did you ever find a solution for
this problem?
I've tried the code with emulator and nexus one (which is HTC) and it
works fine.
Thanks for your time
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I have an activity that needs to do some stuff in the background.
When the background is done, I want it to load a new activity. I can
successfully kick off the async task and using using ViewSwitcher I
can show a nice progress dialog. However, when the user hit 'back' or
'close' from the new
Android is not a realtime OS (it gives no guarentees about when events
will happen). Plus there is the ever present garbage collector. What
I am try to say is I think you have no chance - sorry.
/Richard
On Jul 5, 3:30 pm, Omer Gilad omer.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone know of a
Hi all,
Does anybody know about Emoji support for Android?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji
We are going to port an iPhone application to Android, and this
application supports emojicons. For iPhone, the user needs to
install a keyboard app in order to be able to send emojicons, but
even
Hi
Give layout_width=wrap_content for ImageView
Thanks
Neil
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:25 AM, cindy ypu01...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi All,
In the linearlayout, I need to put the image at right. I have tried a
lot of method, none of them works. Can someone point out what is
wrong?
LinearLayout
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:07 PM, fr4gus fggar...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anybody know about Emoji support for Android?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji
AFAIK, these icons are not built into Android, if that is what you mean.
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Hi all.
I have a ListView created programmatically and each view is a
TableLayout.
I am trying to get the Tables to expand to 100% of the list view, but
it does not matter what type of layout params I set on the TableLayout
I get a ClassCastException every time. Ie, I've tried
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM, samspade79 samspad...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a ListView created programmatically and each view is a
TableLayout.
I am trying to get the Tables to expand to 100% of the list view, but
it does not matter what type of layout params I set on the TableLayout
I get
Not sure what you mean by what class it really is? I'm instantiating
it directly in code so I know what class it is (or at least I think I
do?)
On Jul 5, 12:17 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM, samspade79 samspad...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a
I stepped through the debugger anyway. The type is TableLayout
$LayoutParams as expected and as soon as I pass this into the
setLayoutParams call it explodes.
This happens regardless of whatever type of LayoutParams I use - and
I've tried them all.
On Jul 5, 12:23 pm, samspade79
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 1:23 PM, samspade79 samspad...@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure what you mean by what class it really is? I'm instantiating
it directly in code so I know what class it is (or at least I think I
do?)
Whoops, sorry, misread your post. I thought the ClassCastException was
on
Is it the right way to do it? The writeToParcel method of my
Restaurant object is never called...
The error seems to be in
outState.putParcelableArrayList(restoList,
(ArrayListRestaurant)restaurantList.getRestaurants());
and I get in my LogCat:
07-05 19:34:13.846:
On Jun 21, 11:03 am, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote:
True enough.
In the case I am using it, I would be happy with an activity context
*if* Google Analytics would not hold on to it, causing a huge memory
leak and subsequent crashes.
Nathan
On Jun 21, 10:46 am, Bob Kerns
I've noticed that speech to text only works on cellular or WiFi connections
not behind corporate firewalls. I'm guessing it uses non-standard ports of
some kind? Anyone else seen this?
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Here is a simple test case that does the same thing.
I am trying to get the yellow background to stretch the entire row (I
can do this by changing my design, but I need/want the list inside a
linear layout, and I need each view of the list to be a table).
If you run this you will get a ClassCast
Not sure if this helps, but I noticed that if my nexus one doesnt have
a wifi/data signal, speech to text does not work. Only when a
connection is present does it work.
Eddie
On Jul 5, 10:59 am, Connick oconn...@gmail.com wrote:
I've noticed that speech to text only works on cellular or WiFi
Yeah, it needs to reach google ...only prob is if you have a connection but
it's wifi behind a firewall, you're out of luck. (at least in our case) Not
great for enterprise. :(
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:30 PM, EdKawas ed.ka...@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure if this helps, but I noticed that if my
Why not put it in SharedPreferences? True, you will have to do the
serialization by hand, since Android's support for it is so limited
(java.io.Serializable for pure Java classes only), but unless you have
a complicated object, that should pose no problem (if you do have a
complex object, consider
I'm wondering if it's because it's waiting for a return intent (async
process) from the server? Google follks? :)
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Connick oconn...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, it needs to reach google ...only prob is if you have a connection but
it's wifi behind a firewall, you're
It depends very much on the object you want to pass and how its going to be
used. I've used a number of different techniques in my applications, and
each one is best suited to different situations.
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Ah, but that has always been the excuse; it may even become your
project's Swan Song;)
I'm trying to design an app that not only functions well, but looks
better than everything else out there was the excuse for ignoring the
distinction between physical and logical tags in HTML, too. And ever
The getApplicationContext() should return return the same Application object
as getApplication()... however, they do go through slightly different
code-paths (the Activity has its Application handed to it during
initialization, while the base Context implementation needs to retrieve it
for its
You are doomed if you just want to be able to schedule exactly 80ms every
time so that you add it all up after 1000 times and you get 80 seconds.
At the very least, you should schedule your events so that even if there is
some jitter in individual timings they add up correctly -- that is start at
I regularly use speech to text on my Nexus One without a wireless
connection. A local speech to text library and a local (on SD card)
copy of speech data are needed for Android's speech to text to work.
Although I had downloaded them to get speech to text capability in the
emulator, I don't
I think that, at a higher cognitive level, a user remembers what
actions can be performed at a particular activity, not whether or not
a menu exists. Frequently there is also a visual/motor memory
asociated with the menu layout (example: third item = discard
message).
The way a user discovers
Only people who want to punish themselves use Java threads on Android:-)
But you also asked about Service. You can use an AsyncTask in an
Activity if the task has to happen while the activity is active. If
the task needs to happen also when the acitivity is not active, (like
when the user goes to
Following last year’s successful release of Google Android support for
the MobiForms Developer rapid application development tool, the team
at MobiForms are proud to announce the latest addition of Google
Android support to the MobiForms Sync Server.
The MobiForms Sync Server enables
Hi,
I have an existing android project, which I want to view it as a class
diagram or in any uml representation
Could anyone please give me a free tool to generate them.
Thanks,
Priyank
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hi,
i have run the media appllication in android emulator,
audio and video file is not displaying in android emulator.
video view source code is given below
/*
* Copyright (C) 2009 The Android Open Source Project
*
* Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the License);
* you may
Jul,
This is the heart of the problem in logcat:
07-05 19:34:28.647: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(808): Caused by:
java.lang.ClassCastException: java.util.LinkedList
07-05 19:34:28.647: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(808): at
org.digitalfarm.atable.Atable.onSaveInstanceState(Atable.java:254)
My guess is
I am also using Win 7 64bit, and running Android 1.6
I don't know if this happens with other versions. I will try it out.
On Jun 29, 1:38 am, Sathish Kumar xath...@gmail.com wrote:
The same thing is happening for me when i start the emulator in 800 or
854 mode but not in 400.
It is just
Hi Priyank,
ArgoUML it also has an eclipse plugin and Papyrus Eclipse Modeling
project Eclipse 3.6.
On Jul 5, 2:55 pm, Priyank priyankvma...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I have an existing android project, which I want to view it as a class
diagram or in any uml representation
Could anyone please
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
I installed ArgoUML and am trying to figure how to use it.
My project doesnt have a XMI file to import from. It consists of 2 modules.
Application and Services. Each of them has 3-4 packages having about 15
.java files and a few resource files.
I tried to do Import
Any news on how to implement this ? Is overriding the class that
extends itemizedOverlay on the onTap method enough?
I need to show information when the user clicks a marker and cant seem
to find possibilities
On Jun 29, 9:52 pm, Steve Howard ste...@android.com wrote:
Trying to resend this
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Federico Paolinelli fedep...@gmail.com
wrote:
However, is there another way to do this? Am I missing something?
You can create a custom preference, perhaps subclassing an
It depends on what you want to charge the user for.
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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Pedro Teixeira
pedroteixeir...@gmail.com wrote:
Any news on how to implement this ? Is overriding the class that
extends itemizedOverlay on the onTap method enough?
I need to show information when the user clicks a marker and cant seem
to find possibilities
Hi. im also new. i found a way with paths that works ok.
you have to use
setVideoURI(Uri uri) instead of setVideoPath.
and the media file needs to be in your res folder.
this article explains it:
http://androidbook.blogspot.com/2009/08/referring-to-android-resources-using.html
maybe someone
Thank you very much, I've implemented some parts of the code you gave
me in my code and works like a charm.
I just had my overlay class in a separate file and i'm not sure how to
access the variables like the map from there. I'd like to keep the
format I had before, but if its not possible,
Hi all,
I'm using LocationManager.getspeed(); and everytime I use it it comes to
with location.hasSpeed=false ,and the speed is zero ?
So is this something related to ANdroid bugs or this provider doesn't
support speed ?
and What would be the alternatives for it ? should I use the accelerometer
Just I created an activity that start a new service collect some data,the
this service will intiate another thread to do certain operations on the
data collected by the service.so all I feared that may the service
access this array and the thread also at the same time and a race condition
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:27 PM, tarek attia tarek.m.at...@gmail.com wrote:
Just I created an activity that start a new service collect some data,the
this service will intiate another thread to do certain operations on the
data collected by the service.so all I feared that may the service
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:21 PM, tarek attia tarek.m.at...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using LocationManager.getspeed(); and everytime I use it it comes to
with location.hasSpeed=false ,and the speed is zero ?
So is this something related to ANdroid bugs or this provider doesn't
support speed ?
What
T-mobile G1,,plus the emulator the same case
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
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wrote:
I'm using LocationManager.getspeed(); and everytime I use it it comes to
with
Excellent thank you.
On Jul 5, 3:04 pm, skink psk...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 5, 3:14 pm, samspade79 samspad...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all.
I have a ListView created programmatically and each view is a
TableLayout.
I am trying to get the Tables to expand to 100% of the list view, but
it
Hi,
I downloaded the HEAD revision of the Voice Dialer from GIT (used the
web interface) but there are so many errors and I have no idea how to
fix them. I did the same thing for the 3D Gallery and that turned out
fine. But the Voice Dialer is a completely different story...
Here's a couple of
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