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tom jackson
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:54 -0500, Andrew Steets wrote:
My original concern was with the access logging proc, which happens to
be run as a trace filter. I think that the access log entries should
be generated regardless of whether or not ns_adp_abort is called. I
don't care too
structure which doesn't mess with the one built into Tcl.
I wish Tcl would produce a generic [catch], I call it [catchonly]
[catchonly] would ignore all un-enumerated return codes and would look
like a simple switch statement, minus the default block.
Probably enough for now.
tom jackson
from a preauth or postauth filter. This effect is to skip
to trace filters, not past them.
Skipping trace filters even on an aborted connection would be a disaster
for any application which relies on cleanup of resources.
tom jackson
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 11:12 +0200, Gustaf Neumann wrote:
Andrew
the intended
fastforward which ns_adp_abort should be doing but isn't when called
from inside an adp.
tom jackson
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 18:03 -0500, Andrew Steets wrote:
What was the original purpose of trace filters? At the C API level
there is a distinction between between a trace filter
errors are handled differently. Only errors thrown in a preauth filter
are nullified, which allows trace filters to run. This seems strange.
tom jackson
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 18:03 -0500, Andrew Steets wrote:
What was the original purpose of trace filters? At the C API level
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 09:56 +0100, Gustaf Neumann wrote:
Andrew Steets schrieb:
As Scott suggested, we should probably log everything, at least for
some reasonable value of everything. Even if you switch the access
log trace to the cleanup callback, you still don't get access entries
for
, and you use
ns_adp_abort when you have decided to call ns_returnxxx and discard the
ADP buffer.
I think that the ADP buffer is only flushed if you have executed
ns_adp_stream, so you should always be able to abort knowing that
nothing has been sent to the client.
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actually close a connection, or does it just remove what is in the
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think normal logging should take place.
The best evidence for normal logging is that ns_adp_abort is called
intentionally, so the programmer can decide when to do it.
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On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 16:11 -0400, Scott Goodwin wrote:
All connections should be logged as requests that came from
twice. I guess it doesn't matter.
For now, I would suggest just using the old module nsrewrite.
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I noticed that his tcl8.5 was located in /usr/lib:
directory)
open(/usr/lib/libtcl8.5.so.0, O_RDONLY) =
Don't know if he compiled it himself, or used it to compile AOLserver.
But in this case, the symptom is usually very strange and random
segfaults.
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exactly were they
will show up.
(and strace should show which tcl is loaded).
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On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 13:41 +0300, Alexey Pechnikov wrote:
Hello!
I did remove clock command but now ns_returnredirect is produce segfault.
It's terrible.
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Hello!
On Sunday 01 March 2009 04:37:44 Don Baccus wrote:
nspostgres works fine with both aolserver 4.0.10 and 4.5. It's used
in production at education sites with tens of thousands of users
running aolserver/postgres-based
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 14:06 +0300, Alexey Pechnikov wrote:
Hello!
On Saturday 28 February 2009 21:35:21 Tom Jackson wrote:
There is an nsdb module nssqlite3. Here is the readme:
http://junom.com/gitweb/gitweb.perl?p=aolserver.git;a=blob;f=nssqlite3/README
There are a lot of modules
There is an nsdb module nssqlite3. Here is the readme:
http://junom.com/gitweb/gitweb.perl?p=aolserver.git;a=blob;f=nssqlite3/README;hb=HEAD
You can get the module code out of sourceforge, or from the git repo
above.
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On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 19:12 +0300, Alexey Pechnikov wrote:
Hello
above.
tom jackson
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 14:16 +, Bernhard van Woerden wrote:
Thanks Juan,
It was indeed built from the port. I'll try what you suggest and see
if I can track down something repeatable.
I'll also try monit or deamon tools to supervise meantime.
Kind regards
Bernhard
2009/1
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One difference is that my example uses [ns_bgwrite channel] instead of
[ns_conn channel].
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On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 18:19 +0100, Gustaf Neumann wrote:
Check out http://openacs.org/xowiki/tag/bgdelivery
aolserver
What was broken? Is it just the website hosting?
tom jackson
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 08:07 -0500, Rusty Brooks wrote:
I do AOLServer hosting, sort of. That is, I do AOLServer development
and there aren't many people who do hosting, so I host all my customers
myself. I'd be happy to donate
Mark,
Hard to say what you are actually trying to do, but UTF-8 is a byte
array, if you want to call it that. The problem you are seeing may be in
displaying what the bytes are (which might not work for binary data, try
cat'ing a binary file and watch the fireworks.)
tom jackson
On Thu, 2008
config file, if
it is even there, other example configs could be set to cache = off.
Happy Weekend everyone.
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On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 13:18 -0400, Jim Davidson wrote:
Ah -- I (finally) understand... I must have missed the detail re:
serialization in message #30 out of #60 or so
to you, don't try to provide it using
named files as temporary storage.
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On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 12:46 -0700, Jeff Rogers wrote:
Titi Alailima wrote:
what you were looking for. Even with the mtime fix there's no
guarantee that systems which muck around with mtime (such as tar)
won't cause separate files to collide. For a contrived
}
But it is very difficult (impossible) to safely read/write files unless
you can synchronize access (you need cooperation) and/or use atomic
file operations (serialize access). The above example uses both.
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is not really intended
as an end user API. It usually ends up as some more friendly procedure
that handles things like relative paths, security, etc.
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ns_returnfp, _AND_ a
particular series of commands. No single API will serve as some kind of shield
of protection, it takes
a lot of effort. Anything involving files opens up a whole series of problems.
They are not bugs.
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The internal API handles a handful of annoyingly picky but important and
standard website and HTTP features. It also provides a number of hooks
for customization related to these features.
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the content is generated, its
expected lifespan, its size, and its potential for reuse.
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On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 03:00 -0400, Andrew Piskorski wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 06:06:23PM -0700, John Caruso wrote:
That'd be an improvement over the current situation, but it's still
John,
It is not a bug in ns_returnfile.
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On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 11:52 -0700, John Caruso wrote:
On Tuesday 10:40 AM 8/19/2008, Jim Davidson wrote:
I would suggest
the code snippet of create temp file and use fastpath to return
contents is not a use case I was solving
of writing robust code, or how to
configure and maintain a secure internet application, or take advice on
how to do so.
But please, go tell the security police about our insecure file
commands.
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On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 15:33 -0700, John Caruso wrote:
On Tuesday 02:10 PM 8/19/2008, Jeff
is reading and writing the same file at the same time, which has nothing
to do with fastpath. You should use a cond/mutex to serialize access.
tom jackson
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 12:33 -0700, John Caruso wrote:
Consider the following pseudocode snippet:
...generate file $myfile in some way
are you writing the content to disk? Can't you use a temp
variable.
tom jackson
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 14:13 -0700, John Caruso wrote:
On Monday 01:33 PM 8/18/2008, Tom Jackson wrote:
It's not be a data corruption issue
because you are choosing to overwrite the old data with new data using
/ns_conn files code which should
use fd's instead of files. We need a little code cleanup here.
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On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 15:30 -0700, Jade Rubick wrote:
I would call that a security issue then. Leaking the wrong data to the
wrong connection is pretty serious.
Jade
Jade Rubick
. Using the name would result in caching the same object
under different names. This is a much more likely situation than this so
called bug.
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is how ns_returnfile is
being used in the example.
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second as the first, reuses the inode, has the exact same size.
This is why you should not use linked files (with path names) as
temporary storage. Instead, open the file then unlink it (delete it from
the filesystem), then use it via the fd.
In short: there is no bug.
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On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 10:01 +1000, russell muetzelfeldt wrote:
On 19/08/2008, at 9:37 AM, Tom Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 15:38 -0700, Jeff Rogers wrote:
While I'd agree this is a bug in fastpath, the real problem is that
fastpath is being used at all in this case.
I don't
in the reasoning here is that the important thing is the file name
with path, and that somehow this name is immutably linked to some
content. This is delusion. You want a transactional database but you are
using a filesystem. Grow up.
BTW, fastpath has configuration parameters. Maybe bone up on those
first.
tom
.
The bug is not in ns_returnfile.
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On 19/08/2008, at 10:56 AM, Tom Jackson wrote:
You want a transactional database but you are using a filesystem.
Grow up.
and
If your application wasn't the responsible party which violated the
expectation you state
line is new.
Unfortunately the new ns_limits and ns_pools API go around this, so
there is no way to easily find what the config is.
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On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:50 +0200, Juan José del Río wrote:
Yes, Jay. New method is:
ns_limits set default -maxupload [expr 1024 * 1024 * 1024
Is anything registered to handle the PROPFIND method? I'm just guessing
that could be part of the problem. Also, does /500.html exist?
Do you have any other debugging turned on? What other handlers do you
have setup?
tom jackson
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 19:15 -0700, William Scott Jordan wrote
I think there is a new API, mostly undocumented: ns_limits.
It is possible that these config params have been moved to that API.
tom jackson
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 21:10 -0400, Jay Rohr wrote:
Did the method of specify the max upload size change in 4.5?
4.0.x was ns_param maxinput
the result here.
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On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 08:30 -0300, Eduardo Santos - Novo telefone:
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No help on that?
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I'm trying to make mediawiki work on AOLServer 4.5.0 +
PostgreSQL 8.1
ns_register_filter trace PROPFIND /* ::reject_propfind break
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On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 12:32 -0700, William Scott Jordan wrote:
To answer Tom's questions, nope we don't have anything specifically
registered to handle the PROPFIND method. And yes, 500.html exists as a
plain HTML file.
So how
along an
identical path.
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On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 10:15 -0400, David Siktberg wrote:
Since 2000, I have been running a site for our small business on
AOLserver/3.3.1+ad13 (yup I know it's ancient) with a core of the ACS 3.1
infrastructure scripts from 2000 (ditto) and using
The VAT instructions also talk about running multiple ACS instances on
the same AOLserver instance (there are additional .ini files that are
part of ACS/OpenACS config startup):
http://rmadilo.com/files/vat/index.html
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Maybe you have a bad character somewhere in the file, or the wrong char
encoding or something?
tom jackson
On Wednesday 07 May 2008 12:31, Titi Alailima wrote:
I tried a couple more things. I re-defined _ns_http_puts with the original
definition and everything worked fine. This got me
...however it does
look like it uses tdom.
Right Web Services for Tcl requires Tcl 8.5 and tclhttpd, it doesn't work with
AOLserver.
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coding type
validation, and your internal API remain independent of the external
operation interface.
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On Tuesday 06 May 2008 07:17, Tom Jackson wrote:
I haven't found any other WSDL toolkit which can derive simple types from
XML-Schema types or easily create complexTypes where minOccurs 1.
Oops, I meant to say maxOccurs 1. XML-Schema structural type serialization
is complicated. To do
URL used for POSTing the request. Slowly this is
coming together in the wsclient API (which will be similar to wsreturn ).
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On Tuesday 06 May 2008 07:50, Rusty Brooks wrote:
I don't need it as a server, I need it as a client. You mentioned
something a bout being able to use the API
as well, so those would have to be modified.
But, it is a simple piece of software, only a few pages, just very brittle to
external details.
The client works great! I would recommend it as a first thing to try before
investigating anything else.
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serializer is.
Is this one of those object system 'isms?
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seem to remember that they are not that similar anyway. (For one, a single
nsd can have multiple access.log files, but only one server.log file.)
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# When $fp is closed file will go away.
# If nsd crashes, the file also goes away.
The file is actually 'unlinked' prior to use, so there is no way to access it,
or even list it from the filesystem.
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On Monday 05 May 2008 10:02, Titi Alailima wrote:
There is a missing
Wait, I thought mashups were simply http requests from javascript to update
parts of a web page. You return either javascript, html or an xml document,
which is probably a worthless option.
Maybe I got this wrong, but AOLserver should be able to step into a mashup
instantly.
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with a mashup is data. Without that, there is nothing
to mash.
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On Monday 05 May 2008 19:45, Bas Scheffers wrote:
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The main thing you need with a mashup is data. Without that, there
is nothing
to mash.
And much of that data is in XML and tdom runs rings around any Java
XML implementation, though not sure
(including correct handling of min/maxOccurs, isnull, etc.)
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On Monday 05 May 2008 20:04, Rusty Brooks wrote:
I've used TclSoap. I wasn't like, impressed with it's speed but it seems
OK. It seems quite behind the times, though, I did extensive modifications
trying to get
Here is a helpful link, that explains the theory:
http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/decimal/
tom jackson
On Sunday 04 May 2008 10:20, Bernhard van Woerden wrote:
The only way to get what you expect is to do the rounding using integer
arithmetic.
The number 18.005 must be multiplied by 1000 to keep
results can be formatted, and
[format] offers many more options than just the number of decimal points.
(Example of a problem with intermediate rounding:
Two step round:
round(18.449, 2) = 18.45
round(18.45, 1) = 18.5
One step round:
round(18.449, 1) = 18.4
)
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with a safe
version.
I'll try to find this old info.
tom jackson
On Thursday 24 April 2008 00:32, Gustaf Neumann wrote:
Dear AOLserver community
There was a problem with ns_tmpnam, when the aolserver was compiled under
windows (esp. Vista). The Tcl commandns_tmpnam is implemented in C
using tmpnam
Xavier,
But just note: ns_returnrediect is not used to return content, it is used to
notify the client that your content has moved to another URL:
ns_returnredirect /
This would return to the home page of the current server.
Here is a manpage on ns_return***:
probably lean for putting all you tcl page code at
the top of an adp inside a % %, and move it somewhere else if/when it
works.)
tom jackson
On Tuesday 22 April 2008 09:28, Xavier Bourguignon wrote:
Dossy, I just want to return it from a tcl procedure. Basically, after
having done what needs
is gonna care about this tomorrow, or at least by
next week.
Good Luck!
tom jackson
On Monday 21 April 2008 02:45, Xavier Bourguignon wrote:
Andrew, if you read correctly what I wrote, I said that TO ME it was
offensive, I did not make a generalised comment but merely pointed out
how I
/ns_adp_registertag.html
In the newest version of the ADP templating system, these apparently work well
together, but I'm not the expert.
tom jackson
On Sunday 20 April 2008 02:48, Xavier Bourguignon wrote:
So Bob, what is the difference between setting the variable within the
adp and setting
that the equivalent of upvar is used in regular tcl commands:
% set mylist a
% lappend mylist b
If [lappend] didn't exist, you could do:
proc lappend { listName args} {
upvar $listName localList
set localList [concat $localList $args]
}
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I would recommend you use the return value
to help you with that
part of the process.
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the variable have to be a global? can't I do
set varname varvalue and then use in my adp?
Thank you
Can you give a complete and simple example of what _doesn't_ work?
I don't use adps very often, but I never noticed a problem with using local
variables.
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example? There are lots of reasons the above
code would not work.
How do you get away with not using adps? They are the building blocks
of dynamic pages aren't they?
I use tcl pages to setup data and a templating system for display.
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code to handle
things like dml, select, 1row, 0or1row, etc., otherwise you are forced to use
a catch for no other reason than to recover and return an useful error
message.
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Your script/page level code can remain unchanged even when you switch
databases.
That looks more like an OR mapping framework. I think that is a good
thing to have also but to me
On Tuesday 15 April 2008 18:22, Tom Jackson wrote:
I'll try to combine Daniel's code with my filter to turn on the switch for
ns_return.
I have a test release of the nszlib module, which handles ADP compression, and
static files (taken from Daniel's example filters), plus dynamic data
of the connection
would be more or less random.
BTW, this is one of the advantages of ns_db: a persistent shared pool of db
connections, but they need to be cleaned up between requests (by ns_db
releasehandle).
tom jackson
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 11:48, Brett Schwarz wrote:
Hi,
I know aolserver
nsv_ to
store the task id.
I'm not sure that it could be useful from the driver thread...
tom jackson
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 11:19, Jim Davidson wrote:
Hi,
I'm glad you noticed Ns_QueueWait. It was designed to address one of
the most common scalability problems we had noticed at AOL where
, bind variables is something which is handled by the driver,
because there is no standard on how to do it. Some use ?, some use :varname.
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On Wednesday 16 April 2008 13:04, Xavier Bourguignon wrote:
Hi Brett,
Thanks for the message.
I just wanted to try it with pgtcl.
My problem
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 15:11, Don Baccus wrote:
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Tom Jackson wrote:
You should look at the pg driver, I think it can emulate bind
variables, or
maybe it is part of the db_* API of OpenACS.
You have to compile nspostgres.c for OpenACS use to make the command
capabilities, etc.
I'm slowly working on it, very slowly.
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-like syntax across multiple
datbasese, that's fine, but it should never be the default behavior of
ns_db.
Right, ns_db is more generic that even SQL, so it is hard to do too much.
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I haven't seen any discussion here which approximates how current SQL
standards handle prepared statements. Actual prepared statements would be of
little benefit in AOLserver since the lifetime of an SQL session is so short,
there is very little opportunity for reuse. Prepared statements are
that there is no mapping of content types.
tom jackson
So the question is how to handle static files. One idea is to check if
compression is enabled, if so, check if a compressed file exists
(file.ext.gz), use the uncompressed file to figure out the content type,
and return the compressed file
to the
ns_return API.
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to
decide on compression as well.
http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html
Great links, there was one other thing which I wanted to ask, concerning SSL.
Does anyone know if the SSL module does compression before encryption, and if
so, how this might impact the decision to compress?
tom
accept compression, etc.
Then what do you do if compression is requested and it doesn't exist?
Maybe this discussion happened over at OpenACS.org, but this is equivalent to
an ssl layer, in general the application layer shouldn't get involved in this
type of detail.
tom jackson
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config param to the
threadpool to enable compression, but the two groups might not overlap enough
to help.
tom jackson
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So, what I am proposing is that ns_return follows a similar
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Regardless of whether this gets integrated with ns_return, or as a
config, it
is much better to start out with a new API, such as the ns_returnz or
ns_return_compress.
I would much rather
is larger than some minimum number of bytes. So even with
a broad compression filter, you should be able to add parameters.
For instance, look at Content-Length header, if than some amount, compress
and rewrite the header and add others.
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the compression operation will always require modification of the headers, so
mime type triggers seem very good.
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On Friday 11 April 2008 19:31, Andrew Piskorski wrote:
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It is hard to say if these newer languages (C# and MONO) have these
features, probably VB and Python don't:
task scheduling: ns_schedule_proc, ns_job
concurrent
Actually this is not what is needed, you need to use the tclsh for your
AOLserver installation, the tcl scripts are correct.
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 06:58, John Buckman wrote:
Can someone make this change in CVS:
the utils/*.tcl files in CVS all need:
#!/usr/local/bin/tclsh
prepended
/tclsh8.4 ./nsconfig.tcl
$ make install
This may or may not work very well, but the scripts which don't have a shell
command are all correct, and they don't need to be executable.
tom jackson
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 07:26, Gustaf Neumann wrote:
John Buckman schrieb:
the utils/*.tcl files
John, Everyone:
In case the message hasn't gotten through, there is nothing wrong with the tcl
scripts which don't have the exec bit set and don't have the shell code at
the top. Also ns.mak does not need to be updated.
tom jackson
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 08:15, John Buckman wrote:
John
although it has few additional
features.
tom jackson
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 09:34, Dossy Shiobara wrote:
On 2008.04.09, John Buckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone make this change in CVS:
the utils/*.tcl files in CVS all need:
#!/usr/local/bin/tclsh
prepended
Juan,
You shouldn't be running configure directly! Please read the README file for
how to install AOLserver. If you run ./configure, this is the type of error
you should expect.
tom jackson
On Wednesday 09 April 2008 10:43, Juan José del Río (Simple Option) wrote:
Hello Tom,
That's what i
.
tom jackson
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order to document source code.
Anyway, you asked.
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like, what is the time on the server when this is set?
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On Thursday 03 April 2008 11:28, Xavier Bourguignon wrote:
Ok, this may not be an aolserver problem, but maybe an OS problem, but
at the moment, when I set a cookie, I set it to live for 1 minute
only.
Now here
is that
AOLserver/Tcl has the tools to handle the issues.
tom jackson
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 15:38, Bas Scheffers wrote:
Some questions to help us, and maybe give you some hints as to what
might be wrong.
How did you determine the fact that the value isn't a correct Tcl
string?
What encoding
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