Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

2017-04-02 Thread Kevin VerSnyder
David, we use duckbills or manta rays exclusively here in the sandy loam soils of Leelanau County because of high failure rate With helicals in sand. I like the ductile 11" manta ray for apples and the 6" inch aluminum or ductile for rocky soil in grapes. Whenever we have a helical fail in an ol

Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

2017-04-02 Thread Michael Vaughn
I am in the 8th year of 3 year staggered planting growth of a Tall Spindle Apple Orchard. The Planted Area is about 2.5 acres containing 1750 trees. As a first time grower in a VERY windy/blustery location, I did not want to deal with movement or collapse. Hence I chose 14ft long treated Yellow sou

Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

2017-04-02 Thread Jon Clements
George, I can't build anything straight, so I refrain from giving advice on trellis construction! But, we all might find this information useful: Constructing a vineyard trellis, Paul Domoto http://www.prairiefirewinery.com/Cellar/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Vineyard-Trellis-Construction.pdf Ho

Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

2017-03-31 Thread David Gleason
This year at the Washington Hort Meetings and at the IFTA, Mark De Kleine gave presentations on trellis building and structural integrity for support systems. Check out this article: http://www.growingproduce.com/fruits/apples-pears/dont-underestimate-the-importance-of-a-solid-foundation-in-your-

Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

2017-03-31 Thread George Greene
David and All: I remember someone burying 5 foot pieces of telephone poles, cross-wise, perhaps 3-5 feet deep at the end of a row. Most of the trellises I built in Biglerville PA survived. I did have a Geneva Double-Curtin grape trellis fail when, after a big wind storm flipped up one side of

Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

2017-03-31 Thread Hugh Thomas
David, I use these, and they work great. I have no idea how they would work in your situation: http://www.wilsonirr.com/ecommerce/trellis/anchoring/screw-anc-36-hvy-8-disc-hv-rod.php You screw them into the ground using a tool that mounts on a 3 point auger rig: http://www.wilsonirr.com/ecommerce

Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

2017-03-31 Thread David Kollas
Kurt and Mo: Thank you for your comments. If pull-out is the reason for discarding the Duckbill anchoring method, I wonder if a larger model would overcome that. The largest Duckbill model is about 12 inches long. A second line of “duckbills”, also by F

Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

2017-03-30 Thread maurice tougas
David Duckbills have not worked for us. We've not been able to get screw in anchors past the rock. 4'-5' x 3" channel iron often takes my 60,000 lb excavator to pull out of the ground. Broken regular hard steel tow chain trying to pull them out. That said, if not driven deep so as to only be an i

Re: [Apple-Crop] Soil Anchors

2017-03-30 Thread Kurt W. Alstede
Hello David, We only use the screw in anchors on our trellis structures when they are needed. We have very similar soil types to you here in Northwest New Jersey. Years ago we tried the drive in duck bills and they easily pulled out of the soil and did not work. I just don't think that there