Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-24 Thread Brian Pancia
could be: Blue, Green, Purple Brian From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of strauss Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:06 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** Rambling thoughts on applying

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-24 Thread Patrick Zandi
@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of strauss Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:06 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** Rambling thoughts on applying ITSM to the real world, after a long, grueling week spent in multi-hour WebEx’s diagnosing and fixing

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-24 Thread Jason Miller
:06 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** Rambling thoughts on applying ITSM to the real world, after a long, grueling week spent in multi-hour WebEx's diagnosing and fixing problems in 7.6.04.01. You shouldn't think of Requests as alternatives

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Brian Pancia
System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:11 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** The I want you to Opcat1 the Opcat1 on my Opcat3 method is actually from my white paper

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Rick Cook
** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Rick Cook *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:11 AM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** ** ** The I want you to Opcat1

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Brian Pancia
, 2011 9:39 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** Actually, things like Update - Employee - Payroll Remove - Employee - Benefits Add - Employee - Training Update - Employee - Record In Process - Employee - Badge would be better tracked as Business Services

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
, 2011 8:12 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** Rick - very interesting. I have a situation right now where there is huge debate on what to track in each of the apps. Do requests belong in Incident Management? The debate in this situation is around password

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Rick Cook
Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 9:39 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** Actually, things like Update - Employee - Payroll Remove - Employee - Benefits Add

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Gard, Richard J
[mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** I am not an ITIL expert, but it would seem that the dividing line between an Incident request and a Change request would be whether

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Marsh, Lee
From: Rick Cook [mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:31 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** I am not an ITIL expert, but it would seem that the dividing line between an Incident request and a Change

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Chowdhury, Tauf
discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gard, Richard J Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:07 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** IMHO - it is neither Incident nor Change but a Service Request. The password function

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Tommy Morris
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** We generally use a template in remedy’s incident management for password unlocks and resets. The Incident type is set to User Service Request. An incident is indicated by a service restoration either at the user

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Brian Pancia
, Richard J *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2011 11:07 AM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** ** ** IMHO - it is neither Incident nor Change but a Service Request. The password function is not broken; it is doing what it is supposed to do

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Jan Lindhardsen
God how I love these discussions, there is always so many ways to do this, and only a couple of them is dead wrong... It's always very useful to see how other people have solved this! Richard, Im completely on your track in regard to what is an Incident and what is a Service Request. But...

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Pargeter, Christie :CO IS
@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** Wow. This is a great conversation. I didn't mean to side rail this into an ITIL processes conversation. Just was curious on examples of what other people are using as operational categorization. I've spent a lot of time over the years

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Gmail
Brian, The examples below do not align with the tool. Basically, they seem to be redundant. Why would you waste one category when you can use the Incident Type field to describe your incident type. (User Service Restoration, User Service Request, Infrastructure Event and so on.)

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Brian Pancia
a lot of things will break. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gmail Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 7:19 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** Brian, The examples below do not align

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread Terry Bootsma
Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brian Pancia Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:12 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** Rick - very interesting. I have a situation right now where there is huge debate

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-23 Thread strauss
Tracking Administration Manager University of North Texas Computing IT Center http://itsm.unt.edu/ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jan Lindhardsen Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:59 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-22 Thread Rick Cook
I would suggest that you read my white paper on the subject. It is available on the BMCDN. Rick On Sep 22, 2011 8:31 AM, Brian Pancia panc...@finityit.com wrote: This topic comes up every once and awhile on arslist. I talked to a few people at WWRUG that have really struggled with this. I

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-22 Thread Martinez, Marcelo A
@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:36 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** I would suggest that you read my white paper on the subject. It is available on the BMCDN. Rick On Sep 22, 2011 8:31 AM, Brian Pancia panc

Re: Age old debate - categorizations

2011-09-22 Thread Rick Cook
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Age old debate - categorizations ** I would suggest that you read my white paper on the subject. It is available on the BMCDN. Rick On Sep 22, 2011 8:31 AM, Brian Pancia panc...@finityit.commailto: panc...@finityit.com wrote: This topic comes up every