Re: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-23 Thread Jason Miller
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Re: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** Joe, you sound like all of our customers/clients going from home grown apps to out off the box ITSM. ;) Jason On Mar 22, 2012 1:57 PM, Joe Martin Dapos;Souza jdso...@shyle.net

OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-23 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
, they could get into a serious accident if I forgot to tell them that.. Joe From: Jason Miller Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:04 AM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** Change is hard

Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Pierson, Shawn
It looks like my newly merged company is going to evaluate different ITSM suites. Specifically, the evaluation is between keeping Remedy and going with Microsoft SCSM. From what I can tell BMC doesn't really consider SCSM a competing product so they don't have any literature available showing

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Rick Cook
Remedy is far more mature on its processes and how the software supports them. Compare the CMDBs under the covers for a real good example. MS apps are aimed at the SMB stack for now. Not sure how they would scale. Don't let the focus be on the GUI - focus on comparing internals, like how would

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Subject: Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** Remedy is far more mature on its processes and how the software supports them. Compare the CMDBs under the covers for a real good example. MS apps are aimed at the SMB stack for now. Not sure how they would scale. Don't

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread John Sundberg
I don't think the question of better is the right thing to chase. I think you want to chase the differentiators - and educate your audience -- they will decide better. You will have 10x more respect if you avoid the term better. If you talk about marketshare, dedication to the field, leadership,

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Tanner, Doug
John, you are shameless :) From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of John Sundberg Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:46 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** I don't think

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Brittain, Mark
: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** If they are having an MS salesperson in then maybe you need to have a BMC salesperson in as well ... Apples to Apples Fred From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Pierson, Shawn
list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** Remedy is far more mature on its processes and how the software supports them. Compare

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Lee Cullom
Of Brittain, Mark Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** Agree with Fred. Give BMC the opportunity to retain your business and take the load off your shoulders From: Action Request System discussion

OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Larry Barnes
, 2012 12:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** This is an interesting topic to me... I think I barely stayed on-topic, so I didn't OT it, but feel free to move on with your life rather than reading... Microsoft is making inroads

Re: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** So Lee, are you saying that MS will take as long to get SCSM right as it did to go from Windows 3.1.1 to Windows 7 ;-o) L.B

Re: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Jason Miller
*Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:49 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** This is an interesting topic to me… I think I barely stayed on-topic, so I didn’t OT it, but feel free to move on with your life rather than

Re: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Pierson, Shawn
, March 22, 2012 3:57 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** Windows 7 sucks interface wise. Nothings found where it used to be. When I first started using it, it was frustrating to try to find simple things like changing your

OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
– well maybe not as disastrous, but definitely unfriendly. Joe From: Jason Miller Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:02 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** Joe, you sound like all

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
Of Joe Martin D'Souza Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:57 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: OT: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** Windows 7 sucks interface wise. Nothings found where it used to be. When I first started using it, it was frustrating to try

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Dawn Derouchie
Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** It looks like my newly merged company is going to evaluate different ITSM suites.  Specifically, the evaluation is between keeping Remedy and going with Microsoft SCSM.  From what I can tell BMC doesn’t really consider SCSM a competing product

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Shellman, David
the product in action From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brittain, Mark Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager

2012-03-22 Thread Lee Cullom
, March 22, 2012 6:13 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Remedy ITSM Versus Microsoft Service Center System Manager ** I am not sure if this is true or not, but I have heard that Microsoft SCSM with respect to their CMDB, does not have the equivalent of an ADDM and that the discovery peice