ARTCP Project (was RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?)
I'd like to officially reclaim the Features in a GUI thread ;) Asterisk Hackers, Admins, and general digital phreakers of old, After careful consideration, the ARTCP project will probably have to be split into two major sections, both distros or at least maps for a system to be designed as well as the software we develop. Section 1. ARTCP Provider This version will be a distro including the designed management/enduser/billing software hooking into an asterisk RT installation using pre-set mysql schemas. The reasoning for this is that it's much easier to design a database driven php package when you know what the schema will be. Section 2. ARTCP PBX Intended for medium to large pbx's for endusers that want RealTime performance, this project will be a distro with less overall features, but more than enough to handle PBX functions and more. Possible Section 3? AI-PBX Cpanel? (name?) This version will be the same as ARTCP PBX, but not running the RT version of Asterisk. All the above sections should have: A complete branded distribution of linux, as small as possible. Bacula backup system Zabbix monitoring system Asterisk (STABLE) All Asterisk apps/modules that are required for final product PHP MySQL Apache Samba (for end user uploading music on hold files) Webmin (for end user control of system) I'd like to try and get anyone interested in contributing code work to join me in an online IRC chatroom sometime around August 17, 2005. Please reply (just please erase the [Asterisk-Users] section of your subject, otherwise it'll get trapped in the general list folder due to message moving rules) to me directly, and we'll get everyone's availability worked out. I'll take contributions of funds as well to be split across the developers, but won't look for donations before at least some cursory info has been released to show that the project is at least happening ;) Cheers all, and I hope to see interest in getting this going. Sherwood McGowan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
Is this going to be a configuration utility or an end-user utility? On 8/3/05, Sherwood McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm currently working on an Open Source Asterisk Real Time GUI, called ARTCP (I know it's not the most imaginative name), based in PHP and Javascript. What I'd like to know, is what features you'd like to see? I'm making two different versions, PBX and Provider, so the features for each would be different. Let me know, as I'd like to try to get as much as possible right the first time. Cheers, Sherwood McGowan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
That's pretty much what I'm talking about doing. I work for a ITSP, and we're use ARTCP for our interface to our *RT system. We're also working on a hosted PBX product, and developing the customer interface using my idea for ARTCP-PBX. I definitely agree there's a ton of GUI's but I haven't seen many RT versions, which I prefer overall. I'm definitely starting up a site for information and the option to contribute to the development of it. I'll post to this list when I get it out there. Sherwood McGowan --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of -brent clements -Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 1:13 AM -To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion -Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? - -There are so many asterisk management guis out there,some -good, some not. I would suggest doing something different. I -think there is a big need for a opensource virtual hosted pbx -interface. I think it would help out alot of the smaller -ITSP's who are trying to get into the virtual hosted pbx -market but don't have the money or resources to develop or -purchase a commercial product. - -We paid somebody to do ours though, if there was an -opensource version when we were getting into this, we'd -probably use it and also contribute. - -That's just my two cents. - -Brent Clements -IO Networks - - - - -On 8/3/05, Sherwood McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Hello all, - I'm currently working on an Open Source Asterisk Real Time -GUI, called - ARTCP (I know it's not the most imaginative name), based in -PHP and Javascript. - - What I'd like to know, is what features you'd like to see? -I'm making - two different versions, PBX and Provider, so the features for each - would be different. - - Let me know, as I'd like to try to get as much as possible -right the - first time. - - Cheers, - Sherwood McGowan - ___ - Asterisk-Users mailing list - Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com - http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users - To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: - - http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users - - -___ -Asterisk-Users mailing list -Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com -http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: - http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users - ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
-Is this going to be a configuration utility or an end-user utility? Both, there will eventually be functionality for per-user permissions, however right now this is for the administrator to add/remove accounts in SIP and IAX, eventually other trunks, voicemail configurations, per user configuration of options, etc...think Asterisk @ Home's combination of tools, all in one place. Perhaps it would be better to show what's going on already, here's what I have currently working in my employer's system (an ITSP): Editing of individual extensions/trunks in SIP and IAX Voicemail Account / Option Editing CDR Searching Provisioning File Editing for devices User configuration editing (extra table setup for Account options) Account Management (Using SIP for end user accounts, interface merges voicemail, sip, provisioning, and user options on one page) System Statistics (concurrent calls, channels, memory usage, load, etc...) Current future plans: Specific SIP/IAX Channel Information Allowing dropping of a channel (this is due to the occasional need for dropping hung channels, which can really rack up fees on a system) SIP PRUNE REALTIME PEER number SIP SHOW PEER number [load] The above two options for IAX as well. Voicemail Greetings webinterface (not hard, just not finished yet) Voicemail Webinterface (really fairly easy, just not done) Extensions.conf editing Logging Interface Log viewing Management As you can see, this is a fairly indepth project. Until I actually had to use Asterisk on a large scale (1000+ concurrent users), I hadn't thought of a lot of these features. The more I use it the more I come across little things that would be really useful. Thanks to Digium for offering the commandline option asterisk -rx commandtoexecute! Aside from these planned features, are there any other arcane options that you'd like to see? I'm definitely trying to get as many of the CLI commands implemented in one way or another, as many users don't want to sit in the CLI and watch verbose output, while admins such as myself need to be able to watch progression of calls. Thanks again, Sherwood McGowan ARTCP Developer ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
Sherwood, Your intentions are noble and your desire to build this, fullfills an immediate need for business. If your intention is just to build a GUI for Asterisk, read no further. If your desire is to build something more purposeful, your best bet would be to see the existing commercial GUI/HostedPBX offerings like Pbxware and Switchware from bicomsystems.com ( http://www.bicomsystems.com) and Thirdlane Technologies (http://www.thirdlane.com/opensource.htm) and the Open Source software like AMP and try to emulate (or preferably improve upon) them. My suggestion is to create a VOIP Business in a Box System that has inter-alia following list of modules: 1) GUI To configure Administer Asterisk Extensions across many servers 2) Postpaid and Prepaid Billing modules with realtime call progress detection and call cut-off 3)CRM Module for customers to register and provide their information for recurring billing. 4)Web based conference room management module 5)Web based click to dial and callback module Many of these modules are already available on Open Source like SugarCRM, AsreskiCC etc., and [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD contains AMP and SugarCRM at this time, besides other Open Source utilities like PhpMyAdmin. Here is the bottomline: -- The real need is for a commercially deployable solution that can create a business, without too many additions to it. Bicom Systems has promised for too long that their Pbxware and Switchware can fullfill this need to create a business, but they never deliverd their promise. PBXware and Switchware have been a total and expensive disappointment to me and for the few who invested in them. The story is similar with Thirdlane Technologies who promised a good Asterisk Management Interface but they have not been able to deliver a mature GUI to manage Asterisk, let alone deploying a Hosted PBX. AMP fullfills this promise partially and I am impressed with it's richness of features, to create a Open Source Hosted PBX where you don't need to bill the customer. AreskiCC Provides a module to run a Calling Card Business but not as a Hosted PBX . AMP Gives a nice Gui and can be used as a Corporate PBX but not as a Commercial Hosted PBX as it does not have a billing system. In summary a system that is a blend of AMP + AreskiCC + SugarCRM would be a good mix of ingredients to build what I would call a Business in a Box solution. There is money to make in such solutions. The Business in a box solution could be any one of the following, with the ingredient modules being varied. 1)Asterisk Calling Card Business in a Box 2)Asterisk Call Center Business in a Box 3)Asterisk Business Messaging Business in a Box 4)Asterisk Hosted Telephone and PBX business in a Box Etc etc. My .02 cents on this. Seshu Kanuri -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherwood McGowan Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:02 AM To: 'Matt Florell'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? -Is this going to be a configuration utility or an end-user utility? Both, there will eventually be functionality for per-user permissions, however right now this is for the administrator to add/remove accounts in SIP and IAX, eventually other trunks, voicemail configurations, per user configuration of options, etc...think Asterisk @ Home's combination of tools, all in one place. Perhaps it would be better to show what's going on already, here's what I have currently working in my employer's system (an ITSP): Editing of individual extensions/trunks in SIP and IAX Voicemail Account / Option Editing CDR Searching Provisioning File Editing for devices User configuration editing (extra table setup for Account options) Account Management (Using SIP for end user accounts, interface merges voicemail, sip, provisioning, and user options on one page) System Statistics (concurrent calls, channels, memory usage, load, etc...) Current future plans: Specific SIP/IAX Channel Information Allowing dropping of a channel (this is due to the occasional need for dropping hung channels, which can really rack up fees on a system) SIP PRUNE REALTIME PEER number SIP SHOW PEER number [load] The above two options for IAX as well. Voicemail Greetings webinterface (not hard, just not finished yet) Voicemail Webinterface (really fairly easy, just not done) Extensions.conf editing Logging Interface Log viewing Management As you can see, this is a fairly indepth project. Until I actually had to use Asterisk on a large scale (1000+ concurrent users), I hadn't thought of a lot of these features. The more I use it the more I come across little things that would be really useful. Thanks to Digium for offering the commandline option asterisk -rx commandtoexecute! Aside from these planned features, are there any other arcane options that you'd like to see? I'm definitely trying to get as many
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
Seshu, You're exactly right, and this is exactly what we're planning. The company I work for is planning to release the hostedpbx product shortly, and we'd definitely want these functions in the system. Thanks for your suggestions, most definitely. Yes, we're creating a complete distro too, so that the mysql databases are setup to the spec that would be required for ARTCP and *RT to use all the functions we have in both systems. I'll keep you guys posted, there's going to be some Sourceforge projects soon for both of them. --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of -Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) -Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:34 AM -To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion -Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? - -Sherwood, - -Your intentions are noble and your desire to build this, -fullfills an immediate need for business. - -If your intention is just to build a GUI for Asterisk, read -no further. -If your desire is to build something more purposeful, your -best bet would be to see the existing commercial -GUI/HostedPBX offerings like Pbxware and Switchware from -bicomsystems.com ( http://www.bicomsystems.com) and Thirdlane -Technologies (http://www.thirdlane.com/opensource.htm) and -the Open Source software like AMP and try to emulate (or -preferably improve upon) them. - -My suggestion is to create a VOIP Business in a Box System -that has inter-alia following list of modules: - -1) GUI To configure Administer Asterisk Extensions across many servers -2) Postpaid and Prepaid Billing modules with realtime call -progress detection and call cut-off 3)CRM Module for -customers to register and provide their information for -recurring billing. -4)Web based conference room management module 5)Web based -click to dial and callback module - -Many of these modules are already available on Open Source -like SugarCRM, AsreskiCC etc., and [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD contains -AMP and SugarCRM at this time, besides other Open Source -utilities like PhpMyAdmin. - -Here is the bottomline: --- -The real need is for a commercially deployable solution that -can create a business, without too many additions to it. - -Bicom Systems has promised for too long that their Pbxware -and Switchware can fullfill this need to create a business, -but they never deliverd their promise. PBXware and Switchware -have been a total and expensive disappointment to me and for -the few who invested in them. - -The story is similar with Thirdlane Technologies who promised -a good Asterisk Management Interface but they have not been -able to deliver a mature GUI to manage Asterisk, let alone -deploying a Hosted PBX. - -AMP fullfills this promise partially and I am impressed with -it's richness of features, to create a Open Source Hosted PBX -where you don't need to bill the customer. - -AreskiCC Provides a module to run a Calling Card Business but -not as a Hosted PBX . - -AMP Gives a nice Gui and can be used as a Corporate PBX but -not as a Commercial Hosted PBX as it does not have a billing system. - -In summary a system that is a blend of AMP + AreskiCC + -SugarCRM would be a good mix of ingredients to build what I -would call a Business in a Box solution. There is money to -make in such solutions. - -The Business in a box solution could be any one of the -following, with the ingredient modules being varied. - -1)Asterisk Calling Card Business in a Box 2)Asterisk Call -Center Business in a Box 3)Asterisk Business Messaging -Business in a Box 4)Asterisk Hosted Telephone and PBX -business in a Box - Etc etc. - -My .02 cents on this. - -Seshu Kanuri - --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of -Sherwood McGowan -Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:02 AM -To: 'Matt Florell'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - -Non-Commercial Discussion' -Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? - - --Is this going to be a configuration utility or an end-user utility? - -Both, there will eventually be functionality for per-user -permissions, however right now this is for the administrator -to add/remove accounts -in SIP and IAX, eventually other trunks, voicemail -configurations, per user configuration of options, -etc...think Asterisk @ Home's combination of tools, all in one place. - -Perhaps it would be better to show what's going on already, -here's what I have currently working in my employer's system -(an ITSP): - -Editing of individual extensions/trunks in SIP and IAX -Voicemail Account / Option Editing CDR Searching Provisioning -File Editing for devices User configuration editing (extra -table setup for Account options) Account Management (Using -SIP for end user accounts, interface merges voicemail, sip, -provisioning, and user options on one page) System Statistics -(concurrent calls, channels, memory usage, load
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
Oh and, yes, we have the ability to manage multiple servers from one gui site. We currently have multiple switches running on different machines for regional control of customers in our VOIP system. Thanks again, Sherwood --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of -Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) -Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:34 AM -To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion -Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? - -Sherwood, - -Your intentions are noble and your desire to build this, -fullfills an immediate need for business. - -If your intention is just to build a GUI for Asterisk, read -no further. -If your desire is to build something more purposeful, your -best bet would be to see the existing commercial -GUI/HostedPBX offerings like Pbxware and Switchware from -bicomsystems.com ( http://www.bicomsystems.com) and Thirdlane -Technologies (http://www.thirdlane.com/opensource.htm) and -the Open Source software like AMP and try to emulate (or -preferably improve upon) them. - -My suggestion is to create a VOIP Business in a Box System -that has inter-alia following list of modules: - -1) GUI To configure Administer Asterisk Extensions across many servers -2) Postpaid and Prepaid Billing modules with realtime call -progress detection and call cut-off 3)CRM Module for -customers to register and provide their information for -recurring billing. -4)Web based conference room management module 5)Web based -click to dial and callback module - -Many of these modules are already available on Open Source -like SugarCRM, AsreskiCC etc., and [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD contains -AMP and SugarCRM at this time, besides other Open Source -utilities like PhpMyAdmin. - -Here is the bottomline: --- -The real need is for a commercially deployable solution that -can create a business, without too many additions to it. - -Bicom Systems has promised for too long that their Pbxware -and Switchware can fullfill this need to create a business, -but they never deliverd their promise. PBXware and Switchware -have been a total and expensive disappointment to me and for -the few who invested in them. - -The story is similar with Thirdlane Technologies who promised -a good Asterisk Management Interface but they have not been -able to deliver a mature GUI to manage Asterisk, let alone -deploying a Hosted PBX. - -AMP fullfills this promise partially and I am impressed with -it's richness of features, to create a Open Source Hosted PBX -where you don't need to bill the customer. - -AreskiCC Provides a module to run a Calling Card Business but -not as a Hosted PBX . - -AMP Gives a nice Gui and can be used as a Corporate PBX but -not as a Commercial Hosted PBX as it does not have a billing system. - -In summary a system that is a blend of AMP + AreskiCC + -SugarCRM would be a good mix of ingredients to build what I -would call a Business in a Box solution. There is money to -make in such solutions. - -The Business in a box solution could be any one of the -following, with the ingredient modules being varied. - -1)Asterisk Calling Card Business in a Box 2)Asterisk Call -Center Business in a Box 3)Asterisk Business Messaging -Business in a Box 4)Asterisk Hosted Telephone and PBX -business in a Box - Etc etc. - -My .02 cents on this. - -Seshu Kanuri - --Original Message- -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of -Sherwood McGowan -Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:02 AM -To: 'Matt Florell'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - -Non-Commercial Discussion' -Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? - - --Is this going to be a configuration utility or an end-user utility? - -Both, there will eventually be functionality for per-user -permissions, however right now this is for the administrator -to add/remove accounts -in SIP and IAX, eventually other trunks, voicemail -configurations, per user configuration of options, -etc...think Asterisk @ Home's combination of tools, all in one place. - -Perhaps it would be better to show what's going on already, -here's what I have currently working in my employer's system -(an ITSP): - -Editing of individual extensions/trunks in SIP and IAX -Voicemail Account / Option Editing CDR Searching Provisioning -File Editing for devices User configuration editing (extra -table setup for Account options) Account Management (Using -SIP for end user accounts, interface merges voicemail, sip, -provisioning, and user options on one page) System Statistics -(concurrent calls, channels, memory usage, load, etc...) - -Current future plans: -Specific SIP/IAX Channel Information -Allowing dropping of a channel (this is due to the occasional -need for dropping hung channels, which can really rack up -fees on a system) SIP PRUNE REALTIME PEER number SIP SHOW -PEER number [load] The above two options for IAX
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
If your intention is just to build a GUI for Asterisk, read no further. If your desire is to build something more purposeful, your best bet would be to see the existing commercial GUI/HostedPBX offerings like Pbxware and Switchware from bicomsystems.com ( http://www.bicomsystems.com) and Thirdlane Technologies (http://www.thirdlane.com/opensource.htm) and the Open Source software like AMP and try to emulate (or preferably improve upon) them. My suggestion is to create a VOIP Business in a Box System that has inter-alia following list of modules: 1) GUI To configure Administer Asterisk Extensions across many servers 2) Postpaid and Prepaid Billing modules with realtime call progress detection and call cut-off 3)CRM Module for customers to register and provide their information for recurring billing. 4)Web based conference room management module 5)Web based click to dial and callback module Many of these modules are already available on Open Source like SugarCRM, AsreskiCC etc., and [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD contains AMP and SugarCRM at this time, besides other Open Source utilities like PhpMyAdmin. Here is the bottomline: -- The real need is for a commercially deployable solution that can create a business, without too many additions to it. Bicom Systems has promised for too long that their Pbxware and Switchware can fullfill this need to create a business, but they never deliverd their promise. PBXware and Switchware have been a total and expensive disappointment to me and for the few who invested in them. I would not normally reply on a post like this, but since you are publicly expressing your opinion on products and services that we offer, I must defend our years of work. We have PBXware and SWITCHware deployed at many locations around the globe - all working just fine. The combination of SWITCHware and other applications (Billing, CMS, Products Services Database, Media Proxy, SER, Cluster servers etc) form what we call Telco in a BOX. We have deployed such solutions in North America, Europe and shortly Asia. Our clients are small to medium and some of largest blue chip corporate companies in the world and even Chip Manufacturers. Our distributors include approved Digium distributors and have been deploying our products with no major issues. As for expensive disappointment ... What is expensive ? If you mean a small switch costing several thousands or complete solutions costing several hundred of thousands. Take your pick ... In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. As for putting Business in a BOX and any of the many other projects together of which this list has had to endure from you in the past 24 months, we wish you the best of luck and trust that they neither have proved too expensive or disappointing to discourage you further. Senad Jordanovic www.bicomsystems.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
On 8/3/05, brent clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are so many asterisk management guis out there,some good, some not. I would suggest doing something different. I think there is a big need for a opensource virtual hosted pbx interface. I think it would help out alot of the smaller ITSP's who are trying to get into the virtual hosted pbx market but don't have the money or resources to develop or purchase a commercial product. We paid somebody to do ours though, if there was an opensource version when we were getting into this, we'd probably use it and also contribute. That's just my two cents. You might take a look at http://asterisk.ochsnet.com. It's a project I started a couple of months back. It can manage virtual hosting under a single instance of asterisk by virtualizing all the configuration files, as well as managing multiple instances of asterisk. It hasn't seen a lot of testing outside of our own environment, but I'm happy to assist if there are any issues. It's BSD licensed. Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
Senad, I don't want to take this conversation much further and send a laundry list of issues we faced with Switchware to this forum, and the myriads of bugs we have wrestled with in the past 18 months, as that list is too long and this forum is not for that purpose. In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. The answer to your above comments is already known to you and it is already mentioned in Para-1. As you already knew, the two install efforts by me, one in September-October 2004 and One in November-December 2004 have failed to install a working software. On several occasions when I have reverted back to you on giving me a working version, your answer ( as well as Stephen Wingfield's ) was that Bicom don't have one ready. Infact, as I remember this correctly, Switchware was taken out of your product list due to these issues. Moreover is it ethical or legitimate to sell a software that has to be installed only by your technical team and works only on a specific hardware for a given network card and for a given IP. You don't even have a tarball to download and install till today, let alone a CD image?. This is not the way products are sold, where everything is closed, even the features of Asterisk that are available otherwise. Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. I don't understand what you mean by looking into your source code, but if you mean that once Switchware is installed, live with what Bicom allows you to do with Asterisk, and dont ask questions like 'Why Cannot I use 4 Digit extensions' or 'Why cant I use ASTCC with Switchware' or 'Why cannot I create more than X number of channels' or millions of other such questions, my answer is that this is totally out of line with the purpose of Asterisk as an Open Source software and if Digium knew what is going on, probably you are going to have legal issues as far as the GPL of the code is concerned, in the same way Sysmaster did with their SM7000 products. Your Channel Locking and per channel pricing poilicy I am sure will put Oracle and Larry Ellsion to shame. I feel that Bicom should have spent more time making Switchware or PBXware work cleanly, rather than spending most of the time in copyprotecting and closed sourcing Asterisk so that if the customer has to move the installation to another server, they have to call you for a new license code and pay you for the installation, rather than doing it himself. This is against the open source philosophy we are all trying to benefit from. Seshu Kanuri -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Senad J Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:47 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? If your intention is just to build a GUI for Asterisk, read no further. If your desire is to build something more purposeful, your best bet would be to see the existing commercial GUI/HostedPBX offerings like Pbxware and Switchware from bicomsystems.com ( http://www.bicomsystems.com) and Thirdlane Technologies (http://www.thirdlane.com/opensource.htm) and the Open Source software like AMP and try to emulate (or preferably improve upon) them. My suggestion is to create a VOIP Business in a Box System that has inter-alia following list of modules: 1) GUI To configure Administer Asterisk Extensions across many servers 2) Postpaid and Prepaid Billing modules with realtime call progress detection and call cut-off 3)CRM Module for customers to register and provide their information for recurring billing. 4)Web based conference room management module 5)Web based click to dial and callback module Many of these modules are already available on Open Source like SugarCRM, AsreskiCC etc., and [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD contains AMP and SugarCRM at this time, besides other Open Source utilities like PhpMyAdmin. Here is the bottomline: -- The real need is for a commercially deployable solution that can create a business, without too many additions to it. Bicom Systems has promised for too long that their Pbxware and Switchware can fullfill this need to create a business, but they never deliverd their promise. PBXware and Switchware have been a total and expensive disappointment to me and for the few who invested in them. I would not normally reply on a post like this, but since you are publicly expressing your opinion on products and services that we offer, I must defend our years of work. We have PBXware and SWITCHware deployed at many locations around the globe - all working just fine. The combination
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
Please don't hijack this thread. On 8/4/05, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Senad, I don't want to take this conversation much further and send a laundry list of issues we faced with Switchware to this forum, and the myriads of bugs we have wrestled with in the past 18 months, as that list is too long and this forum is not for that purpose. In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. The answer to your above comments is already known to you and it is already mentioned in Para-1. As you already knew, the two install efforts by me, one in September-October 2004 and One in November-December 2004 have failed to install a working software. On several occasions when I have reverted back to you on giving me a working version, your answer ( as well as Stephen Wingfield's ) was that Bicom don't have one ready. Infact, as I remember this correctly, Switchware was taken out of your product list due to these issues. Moreover is it ethical or legitimate to sell a software that has to be installed only by your technical team and works only on a specific hardware for a given network card and for a given IP. You don't even have a tarball to download and install till today, let alone a CD image?. This is not the way products are sold, where everything is closed, even the features of Asterisk that are available otherwise. Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. I don't understand what you mean by looking into your source code, but if you mean that once Switchware is installed, live with what Bicom allows you to do with Asterisk, and dont ask questions like 'Why Cannot I use 4 Digit extensions' or 'Why cant I use ASTCC with Switchware' or 'Why cannot I create more than X number of channels' or millions of other such questions, my answer is that this is totally out of line with the purpose of Asterisk as an Open Source software and if Digium knew what is going on, probably you are going to have legal issues as far as the GPL of the code is concerned, in the same way Sysmaster did with their SM7000 products. Your Channel Locking and per channel pricing poilicy I am sure will put Oracle and Larry Ellsion to shame. I feel that Bicom should have spent more time making Switchware or PBXware work cleanly, rather than spending most of the time in copyprotecting and closed sourcing Asterisk so that if the customer has to move the installation to another server, they have to call you for a new license code and pay you for the installation, rather than doing it himself. This is against the open source philosophy we are all trying to benefit from. Seshu Kanuri -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Senad J Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:47 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? If your intention is just to build a GUI for Asterisk, read no further. If your desire is to build something more purposeful, your best bet would be to see the existing commercial GUI/HostedPBX offerings like Pbxware and Switchware from bicomsystems.com ( http://www.bicomsystems.com) and Thirdlane Technologies (http://www.thirdlane.com/opensource.htm) and the Open Source software like AMP and try to emulate (or preferably improve upon) them. My suggestion is to create a VOIP Business in a Box System that has inter-alia following list of modules: 1) GUI To configure Administer Asterisk Extensions across many servers 2) Postpaid and Prepaid Billing modules with realtime call progress detection and call cut-off 3)CRM Module for customers to register and provide their information for recurring billing. 4)Web based conference room management module 5)Web based click to dial and callback module Many of these modules are already available on Open Source like SugarCRM, AsreskiCC etc., and [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD contains AMP and SugarCRM at this time, besides other Open Source utilities like PhpMyAdmin. Here is the bottomline: -- The real need is for a commercially deployable solution that can create a business, without too many additions to it. Bicom Systems has promised for too long that their Pbxware and Switchware can fullfill this need to create a business, but they never deliverd their promise. PBXware and Switchware have been a total and expensive disappointment to me and for the few who invested in them. I would not normally reply on a post like this, but since you are publicly expressing your opinion on products
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
Considering I'm in the market to outfit 5 offices with an integrated phone system, I'm interested in hearing a response from Bicom on these topics. I like the look of PBXware. I may be interested in getting more technical details. I like the Bicom business model better than the Fonality business model. One major issue for me as the end user is that I already have 5 Polycom phones. Does PBWware support Polycom phones yet? At 12:34 PM 8/4/2005, you wrote: Senad, I don't want to take this conversation much further and send a laundry list of issues we faced with Switchware to this forum, and the myriads of bugs we have wrestled with in the past 18 months, as that list is too long and this forum is not for that purpose. In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. The answer to your above comments is already known to you and it is already mentioned in Para-1. As you already knew, the two install efforts by me, one in September-October 2004 and One in November-December 2004 have failed to install a working software. On several occasions when I have reverted back to you on giving me a working version, your answer ( as well as Stephen Wingfield's ) was that Bicom don't have one ready. Infact, as I remember this correctly, Switchware was taken out of your product list due to these issues. Moreover is it ethical or legitimate to sell a software that has to be installed only by your technical team and works only on a specific hardware for a given network card and for a given IP. You don't even have a tarball to download and install till today, let alone a CD image?. This is not the way products are sold, where everything is closed, even the features of Asterisk that are available otherwise. Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. I don't understand what you mean by looking into your source code, but if you mean that once Switchware is installed, live with what Bicom allows you to do with Asterisk, and dont ask questions like 'Why Cannot I use 4 Digit extensions' or 'Why cant I use ASTCC with Switchware' or 'Why cannot I create more than X number of channels' or millions of other such questions, my answer is that this is totally out of line with the purpose of Asterisk as an Open Source software and if Digium knew what is going on, probably you are going to have legal issues as far as the GPL of the code is concerned, in the same way Sysmaster did with their SM7000 products. Your Channel Locking and per channel pricing poilicy I am sure will put Oracle and Larry Ellsion to shame. I feel that Bicom should have spent more time making Switchware or PBXware work cleanly, rather than spending most of the time in copyprotecting and closed sourcing Asterisk so that if the customer has to move the installation to another server, they have to call you for a new license code and pay you for the installation, rather than doing it himself. This is against the open source philosophy we are all trying to benefit from. Seshu Kanuri ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
As this thread has come into the open, my suggestion is to get at least 5 references for Swithware and 5 references for Pbxware from Bicom Systems, and speak to all of them and decide which way to go. I can probably give a couple of references you can speak to, besides myself on the usability of Pbxware and Switchware. Seshu Kanuri -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 1:58 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? Considering I'm in the market to outfit 5 offices with an integrated phone system, I'm interested in hearing a response from Bicom on these topics. I like the look of PBXware. I may be interested in getting more technical details. I like the Bicom business model better than the Fonality business model. One major issue for me as the end user is that I already have 5 Polycom phones. Does PBWware support Polycom phones yet? At 12:34 PM 8/4/2005, you wrote: Senad, I don't want to take this conversation much further and send a laundry list of issues we faced with Switchware to this forum, and the myriads of bugs we have wrestled with in the past 18 months, as that list is too long and this forum is not for that purpose. In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. The answer to your above comments is already known to you and it is already mentioned in Para-1. As you already knew, the two install efforts by me, one in September-October 2004 and One in November-December 2004 have failed to install a working software. On several occasions when I have reverted back to you on giving me a working version, your answer ( as well as Stephen Wingfield's ) was that Bicom don't have one ready. Infact, as I remember this correctly, Switchware was taken out of your product list due to these issues. Moreover is it ethical or legitimate to sell a software that has to be installed only by your technical team and works only on a specific hardware for a given network card and for a given IP. You don't even have a tarball to download and install till today, let alone a CD image?. This is not the way products are sold, where everything is closed, even the features of Asterisk that are available otherwise. Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. I don't understand what you mean by looking into your source code, but if you mean that once Switchware is installed, live with what Bicom allows you to do with Asterisk, and dont ask questions like 'Why Cannot I use 4 Digit extensions' or 'Why cant I use ASTCC with Switchware' or 'Why cannot I create more than X number of channels' or millions of other such questions, my answer is that this is totally out of line with the purpose of Asterisk as an Open Source software and if Digium knew what is going on, probably you are going to have legal issues as far as the GPL of the code is concerned, in the same way Sysmaster did with their SM7000 products. Your Channel Locking and per channel pricing poilicy I am sure will put Oracle and Larry Ellsion to shame. I feel that Bicom should have spent more time making Switchware or PBXware work cleanly, rather than spending most of the time in copyprotecting and closed sourcing Asterisk so that if the customer has to move the installation to another server, they have to call you for a new license code and pay you for the installation, rather than doing it himself. This is against the open source philosophy we are all trying to benefit from. Seshu Kanuri ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Senad, I don't want to take this conversation much further and send a laundry list of issues we faced with Switchware to this forum, and the myriads of bugs we have wrestled with in the past 18 months, as that list is too long and this forum is not for that purpose. We never said that our solutions are without bugs... However, we sort bugs like no other company that I know off. In addition, software without new features (and consequently producing bugs) is usually dead software. In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. The answer to your above comments is already known to you and it is already mentioned in Para-1. As you already knew, the two install efforts by me, one in September-October 2004 and One in November-December 2004 have failed to install a working software. On several occasions when I have reverted back to you on giving me a working version, your answer ( as well as Stephen Wingfield's ) was that Bicom don't have one ready. Failed to install.. incorrect, system was installed and was working. The fact that you tried to install ASTCC and god know what else with it is was not and will not be supported by us. After you destroyed working copy, we offered to re-install it (for a charge of $250), but you have chosen the option to wait for SWITCHware CD. So, far we have not produced SWITCHware CD because SWITCHware product is too valuable to be distributed by CD. Infact, as I remember this correctly, Switchware was taken out of your product list due to these issues. As for us taking down SWITCHware off the product list... yes, you are right. We had too many people wanting to buy it with additional features added to it so we took it off the product list. Moreover is it ethical or legitimate to sell a software that has to be installed only by your technical team and works only on a specific hardware for a given network card and for a given IP. You don't even have a tarball to download and install till today, let alone a CD image?. This is not the way products are sold, where everything is closed, even the features of Asterisk that are available otherwise. It is our business model that you questioning... What is next.. do you want to tell me what to wear? Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. I don't understand what you mean by looking into your source code, but if you mean that once Switchware is installed, live with what Bicom allows you to do with Asterisk, and don't ask questions like 'Why Cannot I use 4 Digit extensions' or 'Why cant I use ASTCC with Switchware' Because ACTCC it is NOT our supported product... or 'Why cannot I create more than X number of channels' Because every hardware box has limitation on how many calls it can process. or millions of other such questions, my answer is that this is totally out of line with the purpose of Asterisk as an Open Source software and if Digium knew what is going on, probably you are going to have legal issues as far as the GPL of the code is concerned, in the same way Sysmaster did with their SM7000 products. Are you a lawyer, or Digium representative to be able to make this comments? Your Channel Locking and per channel pricing policy I am sure will put Oracle and Larry Ellsion to shame. I feel that Bicom should have spent more time making Switchware or PBXware work cleanly, rather than spending most of the time in copy protecting and closed sourcing Asterisk so that if the customer has to move the installation to another server, they have to call you for a new license code and pay you for the installation, rather than doing it himself. Again.. this is OUR business model... NOT yours. In addition to all of the above, how many times did we fail to respond to your support query or a just a simple chat? In another words, you bringing up your issues here to this mailing list has done no favour to any one and we will NOT watch our reputation being talked about I do not think that other list users wish to read about issues which are not directly related to asterisk. You will not receive further reply from me on the matter. Senad Jordanovic ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
Please stop hijacking this thread. Your little spat is not the point of this thread. Thanks On 8/4/05, Senad J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Senad, I don't want to take this conversation much further and send a laundry list of issues we faced with Switchware to this forum, and the myriads of bugs we have wrestled with in the past 18 months, as that list is too long and this forum is not for that purpose. We never said that our solutions are without bugs... However, we sort bugs like no other company that I know off. In addition, software without new features (and consequently producing bugs) is usually dead software. In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. The answer to your above comments is already known to you and it is already mentioned in Para-1. As you already knew, the two install efforts by me, one in September-October 2004 and One in November-December 2004 have failed to install a working software. On several occasions when I have reverted back to you on giving me a working version, your answer ( as well as Stephen Wingfield's ) was that Bicom don't have one ready. Failed to install.. incorrect, system was installed and was working. The fact that you tried to install ASTCC and god know what else with it is was not and will not be supported by us. After you destroyed working copy, we offered to re-install it (for a charge of $250), but you have chosen the option to wait for SWITCHware CD. So, far we have not produced SWITCHware CD because SWITCHware product is too valuable to be distributed by CD. Infact, as I remember this correctly, Switchware was taken out of your product list due to these issues. As for us taking down SWITCHware off the product list... yes, you are right. We had too many people wanting to buy it with additional features added to it so we took it off the product list. Moreover is it ethical or legitimate to sell a software that has to be installed only by your technical team and works only on a specific hardware for a given network card and for a given IP. You don't even have a tarball to download and install till today, let alone a CD image?. This is not the way products are sold, where everything is closed, even the features of Asterisk that are available otherwise. It is our business model that you questioning... What is next.. do you want to tell me what to wear? Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. I don't understand what you mean by looking into your source code, but if you mean that once Switchware is installed, live with what Bicom allows you to do with Asterisk, and don't ask questions like 'Why Cannot I use 4 Digit extensions' or 'Why cant I use ASTCC with Switchware' Because ACTCC it is NOT our supported product... or 'Why cannot I create more than X number of channels' Because every hardware box has limitation on how many calls it can process. or millions of other such questions, my answer is that this is totally out of line with the purpose of Asterisk as an Open Source software and if Digium knew what is going on, probably you are going to have legal issues as far as the GPL of the code is concerned, in the same way Sysmaster did with their SM7000 products. Are you a lawyer, or Digium representative to be able to make this comments? Your Channel Locking and per channel pricing policy I am sure will put Oracle and Larry Ellsion to shame. I feel that Bicom should have spent more time making Switchware or PBXware work cleanly, rather than spending most of the time in copy protecting and closed sourcing Asterisk so that if the customer has to move the installation to another server, they have to call you for a new license code and pay you for the installation, rather than doing it himself. Again.. this is OUR business model... NOT yours. In addition to all of the above, how many times did we fail to respond to your support query or a just a simple chat? In another words, you bringing up your issues here to this mailing list has done no favour to any one and we will NOT watch our reputation being talked about I do not think that other list users wish to read about issues which are not directly related to asterisk. You will not receive further reply from me on the matter. Senad Jordanovic ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
I have to agree, in a world where ip telephony is emerging as a next generation pbx system, you have to expect that companies will offer it on their terms. Unhappy customers go with the territory, but in a business sense bicom is only trying to support their product the best that they can. After all, this is open source, all of us have to support it, make suggestions, and do what we can to further the technology. If someone does not like the product, they can go somewhere else, it's a free country. This list however, is not a place to take out your anger because you are not happy. I have seen corporations invest over 50K in products, and an up scratching it for something else. Anyone seen the latest voipsupply sales on cisco equipment, what do you think caused that? I have spent a lot of money myself on things in which I was not happy with the outcome, including products from Cisco and many others, but I have not tried to publically bash the companies. After all, they do need to pay their expenses and such. I can say that what I have learned has proven to be an important skill, one which will only be beneficial in the future. Sounds like someone expects too much... This list is a valuable resource for all of us who wish to use voice over ip telephony to both further our knowledge and experise, and use these skills to benefit ourselves, and our clients. If everyone was unhappy with products in the market, there would be no new innovations. Personally, I think if a person has a problem, they should either do something to correct it by creating something better, or keep their offensive opionions to themselves. Just my 2 cents... Regards, Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 1:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI? Senad, I don't want to take this conversation much further and send a laundry list of issues we faced with Switchware to this forum, and the myriads of bugs we have wrestled with in the past 18 months, as that list is too long and this forum is not for that purpose. In addition, our clients we deal on regular basis do not disappear. Each and every client is looked after by us. They do not, install the software try it and then come back after several weeks/months and start the install process all over again... That is not a workable model for anyone. The answer to your above comments is already known to you and it is already mentioned in Para-1. As you already knew, the two install efforts by me, one in September-October 2004 and One in November-December 2004 have failed to install a working software. On several occasions when I have reverted back to you on giving me a working version, your answer ( as well as Stephen Wingfield's ) was that Bicom don't have one ready. Infact, as I remember this correctly, Switchware was taken out of your product list due to these issues. Moreover is it ethical or legitimate to sell a software that has to be installed only by your technical team and works only on a specific hardware for a given network card and for a given IP. You don't even have a tarball to download and install till today, let alone a CD image?. This is not the way products are sold, where everything is closed, even the features of Asterisk that are available otherwise. Our installed clients certainly do not try to look into our source code and then say it is not working. I don't understand what you mean by looking into your source code, but if you mean that once Switchware is installed, live with what Bicom allows you to do with Asterisk, and dont ask questions like 'Why Cannot I use 4 Digit extensions' or 'Why cant I use ASTCC with Switchware' or 'Why cannot I create more than X number of channels' or millions of other such questions, my answer is that this is totally out of line with the purpose of Asterisk as an Open Source software and if Digium knew what is going on, probably you are going to have legal issues as far as the GPL of the code is concerned, in the same way Sysmaster did with their SM7000 products. Your Channel Locking and per channel pricing poilicy I am sure will put Oracle and Larry Ellsion to shame. I feel that Bicom should have spent more time making Switchware or PBXware work cleanly, rather than spending most of the time in copyprotecting and closed sourcing Asterisk so that if the customer has to move the installation to another server, they have to call you for a new license code and pay you for the installation, rather than doing it himself. This is against the open source philosophy we are all trying to benefit from. Seshu Kanuri -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Senad J Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:47 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
[Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
Hello all, I'm currently working on an Open Source Asterisk Real Time GUI, called ARTCP (I know it's not the most imaginative name), based in PHP and _javascript_. What I'd like to know, is what features you'd like to see? I'm making two different versions, PBX and Provider, so the features for each would be different. Let me know, as I'd like to try to get as much as possible right the first time. Cheers, Sherwood McGowan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Features you'd like to see in a GUI?
There are so many asterisk management guis out there,some good, some not. I would suggest doing something different. I think there is a big need for a opensource virtual hosted pbx interface. I think it would help out alot of the smaller ITSP's who are trying to get into the virtual hosted pbx market but don't have the money or resources to develop or purchase a commercial product. We paid somebody to do ours though, if there was an opensource version when we were getting into this, we'd probably use it and also contribute. That's just my two cents. Brent Clements IO Networks On 8/3/05, Sherwood McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm currently working on an Open Source Asterisk Real Time GUI, called ARTCP (I know it's not the most imaginative name), based in PHP and Javascript. What I'd like to know, is what features you'd like to see? I'm making two different versions, PBX and Provider, so the features for each would be different. Let me know, as I'd like to try to get as much as possible right the first time. Cheers, Sherwood McGowan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
