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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data So, when you move the physical mouse, the screen reader speaks what's currently under the mouse pointer. NVDA additionally has a feature to play audio coordinates so you can get idea where the pointer is. This feature is probably not practical

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Could you give me some examples of when you use the speaking contents under the mouse? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=343616#p343616 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Audio ducking and speaking contents under the mouse. However, even NVDA wasn't the first one supporting that. Narrator had audio ducking feature since Windows 8, and speaking contents under the mouse is something that was in Window-Eyes for many, many

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data What features has jaws copied from NVDA? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=343477#p343477 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data When the next Web AIM survey comes out, I'll be posting it far and wide. More people internationally need to take it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=343389#p343389 ___ Audiogames

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data The results from the latest Webaim survey were released on Friday. To summarize some of the major points:1. JAWS is still in the lead as the most commonly used screen reader by a little more than 15% with NVDA coming second, but 60% of the respondents

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data @Nidza07, I agree, but some people they didn't try to keep the discussion as simple, instead, they tried to troll. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=343375#p343375 ___ Audiogames

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data So, am supposed to answer to a post that says, jaws still does it better? OK, all i'll say is, good troll and learn to discuss it properly. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=343362#p343362

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data also nothing can match jaws when it comes to accessibility with the spotify client. NVDA is barely usable in there. either  way now that I don't play audiogames that much anymore I can probably uninstall NVDA anyway. unless some groundbreaking game

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data nidza07 wrote:I am not entirely sure what the smart navigation feature in jaws aims to do except confuse users, as it's half of screen layout in NVDA and half of something where freedom scientific again attempts to reinvent the wheel, and then users

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data I've been disappointed with supernova on  windows  10, for a screen reader that back in the xp and 7 days would read anything you threw at it if you were used to screen review and didn't require scripting or the like, it just went right down, even

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data @Socheat Well, i don't see anything wrong with such debates as long as we all argument our opinions and don't throw insults at anyone, which didn't happen so far. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=343297#p343297

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Another full-time NVDA user here. Not just a user, but also a contributor and addon writer. I've also donated on some way by purchasing some training material from their website, but I'm planning to donate on a monthly bases sooner or later. Started

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Well, when I was using Windows, I have both screen readers installed on my system. (NVDA and JAWS.) But now, I'm currently using VoiceOver on my Mac.And come on, guys. Whenever a topic about screen readers brought up, the debates between which screen

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Hmm, then I guess either that stuff wasn't as available when I started using it, or I just didn't do enough research to find it.I'm not used to using tutorials either, I tend to just read the documentation so I can get started quickly, but I think I

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data There actually are some examples in the guide and it's not just theoretical stuff, though then again i am translating it so was forced to read it anyways and do know that some people don't like that. As the previous poster said, there are great autio

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data I was intimidated by the different review modes for a long time before switching to NVDA as my primary screen reader, too. I heard a very good podcast on Cool Blind Tech which for some reason really cemented the concepts in my head, which is impressive

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Thanks Nidza, but I've been using NVDA for 4 years now, I'm talking about newbies.At least a couple of those review modes got merged a while back, so that reduces the learning curve a bit.I think mostly it's just being confronted with all this similar

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Thanks Nidza, but I've been using NVDA for 4 years now, I'm talking about newbies.At least a couple of those review modes got merged a while back, so that reduces the learning curve a bit.I think mostly it's just being confronted with all this similar

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data I put Nvda since it's what I use mostly these days (there is no way in hell I'd afford Jaws), however note that I also occasionally use Supernova from Dolphin which is not even mentioned on this list and was at one time a competitor to Jaws in terms

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Hi Defender, Yes, the documentation is very comprehensive and covers a lot of things. I don't find those review modes so complicated and I use them often in programs, and the only thing you need to learn is different commands. Insert plus numpad 7 and 1

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Trenton, I saw the link hidden.Trenton I am from portugal.and I have to find it in my country.in portugal we don't have Amazon. I'm not interested buying outside portugal.I wouldn't have compensations.thank you.cheers. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data mario navarroAh, Windows Phone/Mobile, a platform I myself only have heard demos of, never tried/owned.I actually posted link to the Amazon entry for the tablet I'll be getting in post 25, though to make  things easier, here's the link without it being

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data NVDA user here.So, regarding post 7, I am donating to NVDA, is the single program I ever donated so, not bought cause it is free.I mean I do not need to buy it, I just donate when I have money. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342874

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data You're very welcome!Here's a "bonus" for ya! Its the Get Started With Narrator User's Guide. I think you'll enjoy it, it is quite a nice read! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=3428

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Trenton, very nice tablet.It's time to invest in the future.and the future accessible in windows touch is the Narrator.I've never had a touch experience on windows with JAWS, NVDA, or narrator.between these 3 screen readers in touch environment

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Orko wrote:@revanLOL! I can prove you wrong simply by saying I paid for JAWS, and I know a bunch of other people in the JAWS users mailing list that also paid for it. So your statement that no one will pay for JAWS is patently wrong.hi,not going

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Nidza07LOL, I didn't even know that N shortcut... Is that in the documentation?Also, I would argue that all the different types of review and layout that NVDA uses are also a problem.Much of the reason why they had to do that was do to patents made

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data @mario navarroThe tablet/laptop hybrid I will be getting next March/April, is the ASUS 10.1” Transformer Mini T102HA-D4-GR, 2in1 Touchscreen Laptop, Intel Quad-Core Atom, 4GB RAM, 128GB EMMC, Pen and Keyboard Included from Amazon, for 398 USD.Keep

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Hello Trenton.can you tell me what model of ASUS windows Tablet that you're talking about?I am interested in one of these tablets, and maybe you help me to choose one.thank you.cheers. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342771#p342771

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data I believe there exists a kind of misconception about JAWS. JAWS, as its acronym says, (Job Access with Speech), is designed to be used in an educational/school and work environment, not simply for daily use. That's why it has such an amazing integration

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data I am not entirely sure what the smart navigation feature in jaws aims to do except confuse users, as it's half of screen layout in NVDA and half of something where freedom scientific again attempts to reinvent the wheel, and then users start asking why

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Webaim runs the largest screen reader survey every two years, and the results from the latest one will be released in a couple of weeks. You should check their website because their survey is completed by people with all levels of screen reader

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Shadow, http://www.webaim.org is where you should be going for real data.All your going to get here is a bunch of arguing.But hey, might as well throw my two cents in as well right? :-)JFW has many more features than NVDA, (many of which are hidden

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Shadow, http://www.webaim.org is where you should be going for real data.All your going to get here is a bunch of arguing.But hey, might as well throw my two cents in as well right? :-)JFW has many more features than NVDA, (many of which are hidden

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Shadow, http://www.webaim.org is where you should be going for real data.All your going to get here is a bunch of arguing.But hey, might as well throw my two cents in as well right?JFW has many more features than NVDA, (many of which are hidden until

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data http://www.webaim.org is where you should be going for real data.All your going to get here is a bunch of arguing.But hey, might as well throw my two cents in as well right?JFW has many more features than NVDA, (many of which are hidden until needed

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data @revanLOL! I can prove you wrong simply by saying I paid for JAWS, and I know a bunch of other people in the JAWS users mailing list that also paid for it. So your statement that no one will pay for JAWS is patently wrong. URL: http

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data nvda is good for me and people uses primar screen reader as well heredo not get me wrong freedom users or workers,  who in this forum from freedom  that just my personal ideawhy would i pay everytime for upgrades?so I prefer go with nvda

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Orko wrote:JAWS user here, with NVDA as a every once in a great while backup.One thing that always bothers me about NVDA users is that they all talk about how it is free. Doesn't anybody offer NV Access anything in the way of donations

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data I still don't know how people can use the internet with NVDA. it just makes me want to break something. no smartnav, no insert enter to skip links and jump straight to the text of a web page like jaws has, nothing. its pure rage. URL: http

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Lucas is right about some things and wrong about others.What he is right about is that you shouldn't limit yourself to testing with only one screen reader. Coding a web site such that it only works with one particular screen reader is not the way

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data When I get my Asus Windows tablet next year, I honestly will be using Narrator.NVDA will be used for programs that Narrator will not work with. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342656#p342656

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Sorry guys, my pole broke when I first posted this, but it appears to be working now. Happy voting! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342649#p342649 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data @7 I donate monthly to NVAccessNVDA hands down URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342644#p342644 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data NVDA here as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342646#p342646 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data NVDA hands down URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342644#p342644 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data NVDA  as main screen reader, and Jaws as secondary, JFW, demo version, to expensive to buy, I donate to NVDA instead. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342639#p342639 ___ Audiogames

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've heard that NVDA is the most standards compliant screen reader. If you want to test your website or apps for accessibility compliance, you can't go wrong by freely downloading NVDA onto as many computers as you wish.I

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data JAWS user here, with NVDA as a every once in a great while backup.One thing that always bothers me about NVDA users is that they all talk about how it is free. Doesn't anybody offer NV Access anything in the way of donations? If that is the trend

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Hi,JAWS is all fine and dandy if you can aford it or get someone to buy it for you. But for a single person, the price tag is unrealistic, which is why I think most of what FS gets these days is network licenses and batches of licenses for schools

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Hi,JAWS is all fine and dandy if you can aford it or get someone to buy it for you. But for a single person, the price tag is unrealistic, which is why I think most of what FS gets these days is network licenses and batches of licenses for schools

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data JAWS user here, with NVDA as a every once in a great while backup.One thing that always bothers me about NVDA users is that they all talk about how it is free. Doesn't anybody offer NV Access anything in the way of donations? If that is the trend

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Put me down for NVDA. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342630#p342630 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data NVDA user here.   Not taking anything away from Jaws, but with the  zero price tag, this would give software developers the ability to freely download, and install the software and use it to develop a script or integrate accessibility with anything

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data Jaws first, NVDA second. Though if you want to know which screen reader is most popular amongst all blind users, I don't think this is the place to get an accurate picture of that. I don't think this community is particularly representative

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data JAWS here. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=342611#p342611 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data An actual pole would be better though,I personally use MVDA as my primary screenreader with jaws as a secondary, was a long time user of Jaws,even up to a few last months,but then decided to switch to NVDA as IMO its just as good as jaws and in some

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Re: Windows Screen Reader Usage data The most used are NVDA from nvaccess and JAWS from freedom scientific.Nvda is a free screen reader, so it's used mostly in developing countries or used by those that don't wan't to support freedom scientific.Jaws is a paid screen reader with a 20 minute