Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? This programmer/sysadmin finds that 32 cells is adequate, but I wouldn't say "no" to 40. 80? I dunno; that might just be stretching things, even though it would provide exactly one standard line of text.

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I disagree with the previous poster. Studies have shown that for new braille readers to succeed in gaining proper momentum and technique, each braille line must be of at least thirty cells. I would never recommend less than a 30

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I don't see a half-second refresh rate working well for reading long texts, but if the display were a bit bigger, it wouldn't be so bad for programming, since braille and speech could work well enough together that the delay

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : turtlepower17 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? i'm a little bummed about the slow refresh rate myself. As a fast Braille reader, that wouldn't work for me at all. I was hoping for an affordable Braille display, because while my Braille Note is technically functional, the battery

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Don't programmers generally prefer longer displays so that they can see both ends of longer lines of code at the same time? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=256683#p256683

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ian Reed via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? @Sebby, sorry for my confusion. @TJT1234, ah, I didn't realize it had a slower refresh rate.Thanks for the good information.For others who want more info on it, I found this page that does talk about the refresh rate being too slow

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? @Ian: my fault. There was a smiley, but no other indication that I was (trying to be) funny. Yes, of course I know what you meant. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=256628#p256628

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? The reason that I would not buy an Orbit is because of the refresh rate. I am quite a fast braille reader, and it would break the flow of reading having to finish a line--wait--continue reading--wait--continue reading, etc. URL

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ian Reed via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? @Sebby, the term revolutionary was targetted at the price.Last time I checked, which was a few years ago now, a 12 cell braille display cost $1000 and a 20 cell was around $2000.So a 20 cell for 4 or 500 dollars is about a 75% cost

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Revolutionary? It's revolutionary to be able to read independently now? Anyway, yeah, props to small developments. Standalone reading is already a feature for the notetaker user, but mine is now permanently on my desk, connected

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Revolutionary? It's revolutionary to be able to read independently now? Anyway, yeah, props to small developments. Standalone reading is already a feature for the notetaker user, but mine is now permanently on my desk, connected

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ian Reed via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? @Cinnamon, thanks for sharing, sounds like a pretty cool development.Here's a cool trick, you can type this in the google search box:400 canadian dollars in USDAnd just under the search results heading you will get this:400 Canadian

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? For information on the Braille Note Touch, look at the extensive discussion on the topic called something like "New stuff at CSUN 2016". URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=2564

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? The Orbit display is actually going to be sold by many of the organisations that worked on it. The NFB, APH, CNIB and Vision Australia amongst others will be selling it for about $500 US. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Cinnamon via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Have you guys seen the CNIB Orbit braille display thing? Launching in the fall, a 20 cell display for $400. It has some other features, but you can load an SD card into it and read from there. No cords, no Bluetooth. ... Now that I

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mata via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I prefer both, honestly. Whenever i feel speeh sucks, i go for braille, but whenever speech is better, i go for it. haven't used braille daily for almost a year now. can still read and write perfect enough though URL: http

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Personally, I read and write braille, but it's just not something I use. I just don't get anything out of reading a braille book for hours, that's why I prefer speech. With braille, I just simply don't absorb as much information

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wanderer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Aaaand we're still using mini USB. Like, you know, the thing that was deprecated in 2007? Lol these people. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=255868#p255868

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-04-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Well, my VarioUltra's Mini USB's charging port broke a few days ago. Just a little less faith in braille for me now, almost none that companies will stop fooling around and get something actually done. Yes, the VarioUltra runs

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : blindncool via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I haven't read anything in braille since I was in high school (about 8 years ago). URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=255386#p255386 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Humanware announced BrailleNote Touch, which is a tablet running Android 4.4 and using KeySoft as its interface and screen reader for third-party applications on Google Play.Well, that's one problem solved, anyway.Now: can I root

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : magurp244 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Hmm, I read through the spec's for the B2G a bit more thoroughly, seems they use a Metec refreshable braille display, which is from a 3rd party manufacturer that uses standard PiezoElectric Actuators, no price listed of course

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : magurp244 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Hmm, I read through the spec's for the B2G a bit more thoroughly, seems they use a Metec refreshable braille display, which is from a 3rd party manufacturer that uses standard PiezoElectric Actuators, no price listed of course

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I have just read the article that was posted that talked about the polymers. This is exactly what I'm talking about, just in less technical terms. Well, it seems that the NBP has already taken my idea, so I won't be getting a Nobel

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-20 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? in this (controversial) article, a former FS employee claims that the cost of building a 490cell Pacmate was around $400 as of 2006. If the braille costs $1/dot, this is plausible. The last time this article came up, Camlorn listed

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-20 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? in this (controversial) article, a former FS employee claims that the cost of building a 490cell Pacmate was around $400 as of 2006. If the braille costs $1/dot, this is plausible. The last time this article came up, Camlorn listed

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-20 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : magurp244 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Damn, your right. That does sound exactly like it, the B2G site says its supposed to be launching this month, apparently. B2G seems like a later generation of flexible braille display prototyped back in 2005 though you wouldn't know

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-20 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? That's more or less how the piezoelectric, pneumatic, and EAP/artificial muscle stuff works. (And also how LCDs work.)I kept reading things that said that arranging so many small parts into a cramped space is part of the difficulty

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-20 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? That's more or less how the piezoelectric, pneumatic, and EAP/artificial muscle stuff works. (And also how LCDs work.)I kept reading things that said that arranging so many small parts into a cramped space is part of the difficulty

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-20 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? As I said above, I'm no programmer, designer, craftsman or anything of that nature, but in my very uneducated mind, I see this thing that seems to make some kind of sense. Those of you who know this stuff better than I do, please

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : magurp244 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? That tablet from Bitlab seems to use micro channel fluidics, kind of like the Phorm case for iPads that pump liquid to points on a surface, at least thats what some articles say. I think another approach could be to use micro

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : magurp244 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? That tablet from Bitlab seems to use micro channel fluidics, kind of like the Phorm case for iPads that pump liquid to points on a surface, at least thats what some articles say. I think another approach could be to use micro

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? At magurp244: I think this article mentions that the standard design fell out of patent a while ago. I assume that the biggest competing companies are using roughly the same mechanism. It's the newer stuff with valves and springs

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Thanks, TJT1234.The description of the device there made it sound like a garage job, what with the wood and the size of it. Hopefully, someone will upload recordings from CSUN so we can tell if it's gotten noticeably better since

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Hi.This is a very interesting topic. My BrailleNote is being repaired right now so I haven't read any braille books lately. I'm using nvda with the old sapi mike voice to read books at the moment. I have a sd card with all my books

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : magurp244 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I've been doing some digging on the subject myself, didn't quite fully understand some of the Patent designs until you mentioned the PiezoElectric Actuators, so thanks for that, heh. A number of manufacturing companies i've checked

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : magurp244 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I've been doing some digging on the subject myself, didn't quite fully understand some of the Patent designs until you mentioned the PiezoElectric Actuators, so thanks for that, heh. A number of manufacturing companies i've checked

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Theo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? They're not priced based on labour required to build, rather they're priced based on demand. So many customers purchase their braille display with government funding, so they're not as price sensitive as they would be otherwise

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Here's someone writing something which I assume is supposed to be open-sourcing a Quixote-style display: http://www.utopiamechanicus.com/article … e-display/I expect this sort of thing to be loud and of questionable speed. Also

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? This topic has me researching again. Here's an article entitled "Why are Braille Displays so Expensive? Let's Open it up", which opens it up but doesn't seem to answer the question. (Maybe the answer is obvious if you'r

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Will Bristol Braille even be at CSUN? If they have Canutes there, I would expect to be able to hear them refreshing ten exhibitors away. And could 3D printing possibly ever help to make cheaper refreshable braille? I'm

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? the only device i can afford to write braille with is a slate and stylus and yes I live in the US. I have an old perkins brailler and luckily vocational rehab paid to have it refurbished so I can use it. But if they would have

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? No, Bristol Braille won't be at CSUN. I wonder when we'll next see them. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=254319#p254319 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Theo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Last time I read a physical braille book was last year. I've done 5 university math courses using braille textbooks, but now that I have my braille display, I just get the transcription company to send me the .brf files, and I

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Imagine a 3D-printed braille display. It would certainly be cheaper, and people wouldn't be so worried if they accidentally dropped their display because the parts would be more easily replaceable. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? When Aprone was trying to build a braille display, he mentioned that 3d printing made it much easier to get parts, but that's all I can remember on the subject off the top of my head. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : swigjr23 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? UEB is not a whole lot different. They have just changed a few things that really didn't need changing. If you can read braille now UEB will not cause you any problems. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=254267

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? If I had reason to take up Braille again, I'd probably be flummoxed about the whole U E B thing. I'm glad I know Braille since if I were to lose what vision I have, I could just pick it up with no problem, but now, they've

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? On the Blind Bargains Qast from about June 2015, there is a demonstration of one of the people on the beta test team demonstrating it. When the device is processing information, it sounds like a loud printer; when the braille cells

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Yeah, refresh rate is a pretty important feature, and it's frustrating how making bigger displays affordable seems to trade against it. I assume this is why they're advertising it specifically as an eBook reader, because for any

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? OK, so I'm alone in that I like UEB. If you get used to it, I think you should be fine.I completely support the notetakers moving away from Windows CE, but I don't think Android is a good idea (see my above comment about Braille

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Huh, and I was starting to think, based on my not doing any research and just hearing about it from organizations and Wikipedia, that most people were either OK with UEB or being treated like "they changed it, therefore it

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Huh, and I was starting to think, based on my not doing any research and just hearing about it from organizations and Wikipedia, that most people were either OK with UEB or being treated like "they changed it, therefore it

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Yeah, I'm fed up with the windows CE crap too. They just say that its a stable platform or that they see no reason for change as an excuse imo. But, where would they go... Android, well, fine with me, its a preferred OS for me and I

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : swigjr23 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Hello,I am reading a braille book right now; I just wish it was more fun. I am reading Transitioning to Unified English Braille from the Hadly Institute. UEB sucks! Aparently, the people who invented UEB thought braille was hard, so

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wanderer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Same about Windows CE; this Braille Sense is just functional enough that I can take notes, chat on Facebook and stuff like that. I currently have an Android phone (a fact I hope to change once the iPhone SE is released) so using

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Well I can't say I'm surprised by the direction this topic has taken. It makes me both very happy and very sad.Sigh. Right, let's go. First of all, to answer the actual question posed by this topic: the last book I read in braille

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Well I can't say I'm surprised by the direction this topic has taken. It makes me both very happy and very sad.Sigh. Right, let's go. First of all, to answer the actual question posed by this topic: the last book I read in braille

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wanderer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Lol I doubt it. My experiences with the U2 have been less than stellar; if that's they're best product I'm not impressed. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=253902#p253902

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Yes, and let me remind you that those guys who made NVDA were Australians. OK then, enough with the patriotism. It's much harder to build a multiline braille display than a screen reader. I know that Freedom Scientific won't

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wanderer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? NVDA didn't come from a huge company; it started when a dude got fed up with commercial screen readers. It is now almost 10 years old and going strong. Yes it has had funding from companies, but it is still a free and open-source

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I wonder what the officials of the various braille authorities would think if they saw this topic.Me too. Let's ask them. Anyone in particular, or should I just check out the websites of these organizations and email everyone who

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Yes, but if blind people in other countries don't have funding, how are they going to even make their own decisions about whether braille is a good or bad thing? OK, so let's imagine that braille disappears from reading. It's just

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Sure, people in other countries may not have funding, but its like this. Funding may look good, but its just giving the big companies more money. Even Baum, a company I thought I could respect, is still putting Windows CE

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? All right everyone, here we go!First, would people quit moaning and groaning about how braille is so important and vital? Yes, I've heard this everywhere. Do I think braille is a useful tool? You bet! However, I'm getting sick

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Actually, I was under the impression that the NFB was working on the Transforming Braille Group's braille display. As for the ACB, I have no idea what they're doing.You lucky people in the US are complaining that you are forced

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? All right everyone, here we go!First, would people quit moaning and groaning about how braille is so important and vital? Yes, I've heard this everywhere. Do I think braille is a useful tool? You bet! However, I'm getting sick

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? All right everyone, here we go!First, would people quit moaning and groaning about how braille is so important and vital? Yes, I've heard this everywhere. Do I think braille is a useful tool? You bet! However, I'm getting sick

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? All right everyone, here we go!First, would people quit moaning and groaning about how braille is so important and vital? Yes, I've heard this everywhere. Do I think braille is a useful tool? You bet! However, I'm getting sick

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ishan Dhami via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Hi to all. in 2014 I completed my 12th. This was the last time when I read braille. Well I agreed with you Dark sir that Braille is very time consuming at least in hindi. sometime in Sanskrit and hindi when you arrived

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wanderer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I was just using the Pi as an example; a cheap Windows tablet has better specifications than the U2. It's much more than a little outdated, and it glitches all the time, to the point where I sometimes can't even play a song all

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Actually, I think it's the exact opposite--the price is so high because the market is so small.(Question: do screen readers indicate formatting like italics, bold, etc, when reading with a braille display? I'd check, but my PM40 has

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Actually, I think it's the exact opposite--the price is so high because the market is so small.(Question: do screen readers indicate formatting like italics, bold, etc, when reading with a braille display? I'd check, but my PM40 has

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Coincidentally, I also own a U2, and I chose it because of its above-average specifications. I know it's not as good as a Raspberry Pi, but I think there'll be a new Braille Sense this year. Anyway, sticking with the current one

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wanderer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? The hardware and software of Braille notetakers is substandard and outdated beyond belief. This is true for every notetaker I've seen and heard about. For example, the Braille Sense U2 I have right now is $4000. Let's do some math

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Reading without braille is not literacy. Sighted kids in school don't get away with audio, so neither should blind kids. Audio is passive; braille is active. Statistics have proven that blind people are generally poor at spelling

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Actually, thinking about things in your sleep has actually been scientifically proven to be beneficial. So keep doing it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=253726#p253726

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Actually, it does apply to braille displays.I can pay roughly $3000 for a 40-cell display, but when I add another $3000 to that, I get a 40-cell notetaker. That, I know, is due to the specialised software, but still, look at what

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I have a multitrack mind, I'm never, or hardly ever on one thing at a time, I'm usually thinking about 3 or 4 things at once all the time unless I'm sleeping and even then, I feel like I've thought about stuff and came

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wanderer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? @Dark I was referring to functional literacy being respected, which I believe in most cases for Blind people means having some grasp of Braille for spelling and such. Not saying it should be a primary source of reading, but as I

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? By having a much cheaper braille display, you would be sacrificing necessary features. To draw an analogy, I can buy a Windows computer for $300, but a computer at $1300 would be much better in the long run. I am inclined to buy

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : afrim via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Yes, Dark, I agree with you that the method of learning depends on the subject you're specialising in. I specialise in linguistics, and learning a foreign language, in this case English, is a very difficult-if not unachievable task

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Both braille and audio have their advantages, and personally I am happy at the moment in the way that they can coexist with each other. Let's keep it that way. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=253700#p253700

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? @Wanderer, funny you say braille litracy is respected by the sighted world, I've found the opposite, sinse after all only blind people read braille much less can write it. actually i found much more acceptance when I started typing

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Cinnamon via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I think braille is absolutely 100% necessary for elementary school education and for math. That's a whole other topic though.I like to read braille; I like to have the words under my fingers. But I hate the single line braille

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wanderer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I'm scared to think what will happen if/when Braille disappears. The mentality of a lot of people seems to be "well they're blind, what do you expect them to do?" and not having the literacy skills imparted by Braille

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? @dark,I don't know that I would ever say one needs braille for editing.  What I would say is that those who learn it stand a chance at obtaining a greater feel for what they're writing.  Does it apply to everyone?  Certainly

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Actually you'd be surprised how much science and maths can be done on computer these days, the only things I used braille for when learning biology were diagrams and heavily tabulated information such as tracking hybrid crosses

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jesseleivo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I also use a braille display and books in school and other stuff URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=253625#p253625 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? Eh, you'd be surprised at how quickly schools seem to be dropping it. The places where it seems like it's going to stay for sure are small things, like labels on doors, elevators, ATMs, etc. Keeping the books going is going

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? No, braille won't disappear. It's used for too many things. Imagine doing mathematics and science without braille. And how would kids in school learn to spell common words? And many blind musicians value braille music a lot

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? @Nocturnus, interestingly enough, because I was taught to read with phonics, I never! thought of the dot five six e as e n c e. I always thought of it as ence, thus I thought of the word fence as ff ence, ie, entirely in sound

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I love braille and much prefer it over audio. These days, I prefer reading with a braille display. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=253590#p253590 ___ Audiogames

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? A braile display would be essential for me if I wanted to write anything and edit my own work. I just miss stuff that the spelling and grammar check doesn't catch. It catches a lot, but I don't want there to be any imperfections

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : afrim via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? well, hmm, the last time I picked up a braille book was perhaps last year on a stormy day when everything was off. They cut off the electricity and I drained the battery of my laptop and phone as well.I found a braille book

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? It would be nice if the technology would go somewhere, wouldn't it? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=253512#p253512 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? It would be nice if the technology would go somewhere, wouldn't it? But where would be the money in that? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=253512#p253512

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I'm with Dark.  I don't spend much time around braille anymore save to read to my children from books that contain both braille and print as well as images for their convenience, given that braille is vastly limited by its size

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I'm with Dark.  I don't spend much time around braille anymore save to read to my children from books that contain both braille and print as well as images for their convenience, given that braille is vastly limited by its size

Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book?

2016-03-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: When is the last time anyone has read a braille book? I'm afraid I'm on the other side of this debate a little. I learnt braille and used to read braille for pleasure, but found it both too time consuming and cumbersome. It was hard to get into poetic or difficult authors, or even

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