Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-08-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Yeah, I definitely use algebraic notation, though I learned via descriptive way, way back in the day. Algebraic is the common standard. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558664/#p558664 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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2020-08-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I don't need a board in front of me when I am playing against a computer, but I do need the views to be flipped, otherwise my brain just refuse to compute the moves.I know it is rather weird, but I can't do anything about it.Other than

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2020-08-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Well, you just explained part of your chess issue.I don't even have to have a board in front of me to play, and if I do, I definitely don't have to turn the board around. In fact, that would complicate things needlessly for me.I play chess

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2020-08-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @Jayde:it tells me that you probably have been playing longer than me. By the way, What do you think about playing chess electronically?So far I have tried winboard, (Failed to beat it in a most brutal fashion,) but my problem

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2020-08-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @142I'm only talking about the fire alarm.  I think every incident in college was someone cooking, except the one where someone pulled it on purpose because they were drunk and we all had to stay outside for 2 hours at midnight while

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2020-08-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : MyDearWatson via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I'll tell you one thing, our brain and body is extremely good at adapting to new situations. Not only children, but even adults can do it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558461/#p558461 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : zakc93 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? How mine works is that I have the experience of seeing things, but only things that I know are there. So I guess my brain just makes up a visual representation of things I am aware of by other senses. Dark eagle's comparison to a phantom limb

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? The vending machine one and the cane is blindness specific though, also I would argue that burning could have been avoided easier if I had had vision. I am very careful with my cooking, and vision would have allowed me to see smoke coming

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @140I know where it is.  It's not possible to remember the precisely exact position. But I at least know where the ladder goes.Also, your story is a typical college story, you realize that right?  We had that once a month or so in my dorm

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Well Camlorn, you should explore how to deactivate the smoke detector, unless you want to accidentally set it off at an inopertune moment, like at night. Well, did your dad  also have the fire department arrive. The porters at college usually

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I know roughly where the smoke detector is, but by nature of it being a small object on what is something like a 16 foot ceiling, I can only get it to within a few feet and have to struggle for the rest.Fire alarm, meh.  My dad set off

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? lol Camlorn, I highly recommend you know the place where your smoke detector is, and how to turn it off before it happens. I actually have much worse blind stories, like the time  I and the time I set the fire alarm off at 1:30 AM in college

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Haha stories.There's the two times I got burned pretty badly, the worst one in college when I was trying to pour boiling water to make tea.  I actually cook a *lot* and hot water doesn't frighten me in the slightest, so it was bound to happen

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? And Camlorn, I am very interested to know if you have any blindness stories that are worse than the smoke detector or almost being run over and having a cane totally bent. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558378/#p558378

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I would still prefer biological cures though than a bunch of electrodes and implants in my head. That is also being worked on, and is becoming more feesable with gene editing tech  and stem cell research.  But I really struggle alot with even

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @132The most likely cure for vision, far as I can tell, is neural implants directly into the visual cortex.  It's been done, sort of.  not ready for widespread use yet, but the people behind the Argus II are doing one called the Orion, Darpa

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? DarkEagle, as far as chess goes, I would be rated somewhere between 1750 and 2000 I believe. I don't know if that means anything to you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558233/#p558233 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @Jayde:I suppose that my spatial reasoning sucks, or you simply are just a better chess player than me. It is hard to assess that from an internet conversation.unfortunately, one of my eyes were removed when I was two years old, dew

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @130Yeah, well, as I said I don't know for sure that there is a rule.  There is surprisingly little research on this stuff at all either way.  I've looked and unless I've looked in the wrong places the most we've got is "FMRI shows act

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Funnily enough, I can actually use a compass and/or a map pretty well, so long as they're accessible of course. I don't tend to care about absolute north most of the time, but I get how it works and how it can be important. It also takes

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @123Nope.  I've got at least one other blind friend who does this, and at least one other blind friend who has strong visual memories from time to time.  And then there's Charles Bonnet syndrome where you just have strong visual

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? in a situation like that,  I really think curing vision would offer more in the way of sensory input than hearing ever would. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558145/#p558145 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

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2020-08-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? My friend, who is studying to become an endocrinologist, told me about a podcast done by Eyes on Success. Maybe it was two epidodes, but anyhow, in one of them, they used synaptic exuberance by snorting stem cells to encourage new pathways

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? also, re: blindness and autismSo I really think that focused interests develop due to the poverty of the nature of the  stimuli entering the brain. As auditory and other sensory information  doesn't use a fraction of the brain regions vision

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : thetechguy via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @120. No one is saying that they are not happy. are they? People are just saying that the sited have advantages over the blind which is true. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558076/#p558076 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Camlorn, I have an infinite list of blindness stories unfortunatly. I can add blindness combination hearing loss stories to them too. Let me share some college blindness stories.The vending machine. So our dorm had this vending machine to buy

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : zakc93 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @105 I've always wondered if it's just me! This is exactly what happens to me, and I lost my vision long before my 20s. Not sure exactly but by high school I had basically nothing left except a bit of light perception (and even that has

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @kjsiscoNo one is picking apart the ways the sighted have advantages over the blind.  There's no picking apart to be done.  It's blatantly obvious once you're living independently and holding down a job and doing all those things you're

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Kjsisco, I agree with you but only up to a point. I think one must be realistic, and that does mean admitting where the sighted have general advantages over us. I don't know how old you are or what life experience you have, but I just about

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I guess we can pick apart the ways sighted may have advantages over the blind but why go down that rabbit hole?  As I said, it's about being happy with the way you are. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558019/#p558019

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? DarkEagle, I think what you're describing with chess comes down to spatial reasoning, not just to blindness. I have been blind since birth, and I'm a pretty strong chess player. I mean, I'm not a grandmaster or anything, but I can play entire

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @114Someone also worked out how to get some General Electric appliances talking by hooking into the maintenance port with an arduino, but I don't have the reference handy.W.r.t. blindness and autism, I don't think that blindness itself causes

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2020-08-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Considering Jayde raised the topic of chess, I feel that's another example which I can do better at if I have sight.I have played a lot of chess against the sighted people, since there aren't any blind players in my immediate vicinity, I do

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? irrationally high expectations can also create stress, and cause depression when you will be unable to meet them. Ignoring blindness or other disabilities put you at a disadvantage and cause problems is like arguing the earth is flat. You can

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Okay, if we're gonna split hairs, fine.  I know the blind can't drive,, fly aircraft, or anything that requires the processing of visual input.  No kidding!  I am trying to say that we should place ourselves in a situation of high

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Jayde, I understand what you mean about neuroplasticity and critical periods. The most  important one of these is language, or at least it appears to be, as can be seen by the case of Victor the wild child, and the case of genie.  The story

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Jayde, I understand what you mean about neuroplasticity and critical periods. The most  important one of these is language, or at least it appears to be, as can be seen by the case of Victor the wild child, and the case of genie.  The story

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? So, w.r.t. hearing, sight and communication, it took me a long time to realize that blindness is in effect high-functioning autism.  Obviously the neural stuff is different (though there is at least some evidence that blindness and autism

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Okay, so two things here.First, I don't believe you could solve neuroplasticity that way. I believe from what I've read that at this point, once you miss certain milestones, they're just gone. You'll never get them back, with what we know

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Jayde, I still think I would take sight even if I knew I would probably not be able to process all of it. If nothing, it will perminently cure non-24, and I bet a retraining therapy could be given to someone to  force the brain into survival

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Let's see if I can reduce this down to its component parts, as I perceive it at least. This is going to apply to all disabilities, really, but I'm gonna focus on blindness because it's the one I'm an expert on.Being blind does not make you

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? When and if you give concrete advice for people who mentioned the obvious limitations and what can be done to eliminate them, I can say hell yes, you were right. Until then, only empty words. I could say keep dreaming and one day all

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Ah but pulling oneself up by the bootstraps is what must be done.  I won't look down on anyone who would want sight.  Hell, go for it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557743/#p557743 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? picking yourself by the bootstraps has to be one of the most bullshit arguments I've ever heard. Good luck picking yourself up when your condition automatically zeros out alot of shit you can do, not to mention noone believes what you can do

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I have never had the NFB say that you cannot ask for help.  And what is wrong with believing that as we move forward more doors open for the blind?  This is not an NFB argument.  This is me saying that you have a choice to be negative about

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Yeah, so, w.r.t. filling things in, I will never forget the day I realized I was having accurate hallucinatory vision, and wasn't actually seeing things anymore, only to mention this to another trusted blind friend and have them go "Yea

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? This mentality of being just as valuable as an able-bodied sighted person, and being able to hold down any job mostly seems to stem from the NFB. I can't stand that organization! Independence is a good thing. It expands our freedoms, and can

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @102:I see where you're coming from. Maybe I should have put it like "Personally for me."What I was trying to say though, that as a child, I was much more angry that other kids would exclude me, and adults would either

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @102:I see where you're coming from. Maybe I should have put it like "Personally for me."What I was trying to say though, that as a child, I was much more angry that other kids would exclude me, and adults would either

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2020-08-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @98, re: ages 2-12: I feel the polar opposite, even excluding the part where my vision worsened in high school. (If anything, it got better when my vision got worse, but I don't think that has so much to do with vision as it does other things

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Lucas1853 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @96: Go be a firefighter. See how you do in that field. Astronaut maybe. And there are jobs relating to driving that we cannot hold. You already said we can't drive, but then said we can hold any job, so one of those statements must

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Things I can't do in programming: anything games related, anything that requires custom hardware, anything graphical.  Anything that relies on observing tons and tons of metrics.  Machine learning beyond a basic level, due to visual tools

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? The work thing is off topic so I will just say that sight isn't something I want because I was brought up not to even think of myself as that blind person.  It's hard to explain really. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557491/#p557491

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Actually, you can't hold every job you want.Even in the fields like computer programming, the interviewers would be looking at you first when they want to take out the weakest candidates. This is confirmed by a sighted developer, who teaches

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Absolutely. Please go become a pilot then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557437/#p557437 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Lol I don't wish to convert anyone.  I was joking when I worded it as preaching.  And no, I don't think the blind will drive but I do believe we can hold any job.  I did bring something to light.  Negativity abounds. URL: https

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : turtlepower17 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Lol, preach from the book of the NFB? And people wonder why I despise them. No organization should have such a tight grip on your thoughts and emotions that you feel compelled to apply force to convert others to your way of thinking. You talk

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? We are unhappy with the life, said literally nobody. If you got the opportunity to get 2000 dollars, would you take it? If yes, does that mean you are currently unhappy with the life? But enjoy your NFB there who are trying to tell you

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? It's about learning to be happy with your life as it is.  It seems we have quite a lot of unhappy people here.  I am fighting the urge to preach from the book of the N F B but I will do it if so provoked. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I think calling blindness a magnifier for other disabilities is pretty accurate, at least for certain other disabilities. "Where did I put my keys?" becomes a much more troublesome thing when you have to meticulously check every s

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Ok my two cents here. I haven't responded to previous topics on this subject,  but. Personally, I would go to any physical, or financial length, take any risk, to restore my vision. Here is why. I have the same condition 81 mentioned, and so

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2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : MyDearWatson via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @85:It's not about changing your choice, it's about understanding why that choice.And, Yes, I know that sighted people use sense of touch. Do you think there's any sense that's left unused ever?The point is that noone want's to loose a sense

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jeffb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @zakc93 I agree if a disability can be fixed when someone is a child it should be done. Not doing so I agree is child neglect. I also can't see why someone would keep their disability if given a choice but to each their own I suppose. URL

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : zakc93 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @Camlorn I saw this thread when it just started including your first post, and was skeptical about what you said thinking that there are probably not enough people wanting to remain blind that there are likely to be any here. Apparently I

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @81 - I'd be interested in reading but i dont see a link. Can you provide a link?@83 Alright you know what, blind people aren't the only disabled people in the world and this attitude pisses me off. You are one person. Sorry if its

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @81 - I'd be interested in reading but i dont see a link. Can you provide a link?@83 Alright you know what, blind people aren't the only disabled people in the world and this attitude pisses me off. You are one person. Sorry if its

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @81 - I'd be interested in reading but i dont see a link. Can you provide a link?@83 Alright you know what, blind people aren't the only disabled people in the world and this attitude pisses me off. You are one person. Sorry if its

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @81 - I'd be interested in reading but i dont see a link. Can you provide a link?@83 Alright you know what, blind people aren't the only disabled people in the world and this attitude pisses me off. You are one person. Sorry if its

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @81 - I'd be interested in reading but i dont see a link. Can you provide a link?@83 Alright you know what, blind people aren't the only disabled people in the world and this attitude pisses me off. You are one person. Sorry if its

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @81 - I'd be interested in reading but i dont see a link. Can you provide a link?@83 Alright you know what, blind people aren't the only disabled people in the world and this attitude pisses me off. You are one person. Sorry if its

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I agree with Canlorn almost all the way down to the ground. Being blind from birth means that no, I'll never be fully aware of just how big that gulf is. But because I've done research, talked to sighted folks, and have a logical brain

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Well, even sighted people would not want sense of touch taken as they use it as well so it's sort of an apples and oranges argument.  It's the same with a sense that humans don't normally get so that's just grasping at straws.  Anyway, part

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2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : MyDearWatson via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Okay,Let me take it to this direction.Somehow, your sense of touch have to be taken away for some unpreventable reason. Now, you live next 30 to 40 years without your sense of touch, and you adapt and  enjoy your life. What if something comes

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @82Yeah, this sentiment is actually super common and I predicted this entire thread in post 2 or 3.  As I've said several times, it's one of the few things I think is flat out stupid.  You will see people calling it differently gifted in many

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : zakc93 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Interesting, I'm very surprised so many people here would not choose to restore their vision. I didn't know this was a sentiment that existed, especially not in significant numbers. It does seem from what I've read here that it it's mostly

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I actually wrote a blog post from the perspective of someone who has both blindness and hearing loss. Feel free to check that out. It is in a two-part series, so it would help if you read both of them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Exactly. The only reason we are having this discussion in the first place is because of the topic and a possible opportunity, discussing whether we would take it or not. There is no depression, at least not in my case. I don't go out

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @78:I would disagree, at least in my case. sight or no sight, I still be an introvert who quickly gets tired of public interaction. But everything which I mentioned that I would have been able to do in my post in this topic, those

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I think the trouble here is self isolation.  This is something we see with many, not all, but many blind people.  The thought process seems to be, "oh, if I only had sight!"  How will bemoaning your situation help you in the end?

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @75 - Yes yes, you're totally right, the social complexes express themselves in a lot of different vectors which is what combines to create a blind person; it's not just how blind people are treated alone nor is it accessibility alone

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @75 - Yes yes, you're totally right, the social complexes express themselves in a lot of different vectors which is what combines to create a blind person; it's not just how blind people are treated alone nor is it accessibility alone

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @75 - Yes yes, you're totally right, the social complexes express themselves in a lot of different vectors which is what combines to create a blind person; it's not just how blind people are treated alone nor is it accessibility alone

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : MyDearWatson via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I can't believe that we are talking about how blind peeps are inferior or superior to sighted peeps. Can't you see, it's not about being superior or better, it's about being happy. And if having a sense which I currently don't, then why

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @@73: I feel like there are two parts to the social model that you describe. One of these is purely social / not well thought out by the sighted majority, and the other is based around the absurd overpowered nature of vision compared

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : chrisfaelnar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? And it is my dying wish that cannot be fulfilled. I want my vision back because I want to experience what it's like to see the world. Though people in my surroundings told me that seing the world is a mess, it really doesn't matter. Yes I

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? camlorn, i don't really think that a "Society of the blind" is really what's necessary. More a social revolution for disability in general (as in, how we approach how we think about disability). After all these are issues that inte

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? camlorn, i don't really think that a "Society of the blind" is really what's necessary. More a social revolution for disability in general (as in, how we approach how we think about disability). After all these are issues that inte

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? camlorn, i don't really think that a "Society of the blind" is really what's necessary. More a social revolution for disability in general (as in, how we approach how we think about disability). After all these are issues that inte

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? camlorn, i don't really think that a "Society of the blind" is really what's necessary. The problem with implants is that we organize our healthcare based around the idea of a healthy person, so much more resources i

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : daigonite via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? camlorn, i don't really think that a "Society of the blind" is really what's necessary. The problem with implants is that we organize our healthcare based around the idea of a healthy person, so much more resources i

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? No, I'd be too worried about them making it worse. Not only that but the daunting task of having to relearn how to estimate distance from crappy vision to good vision. Nah, I'm good. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556708/#p556708

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @61: yeah, I basically see refusing as leaving money on the ground. I worry about things that might come with it because I know what living in my head is like. Fixing this one thing by itself, without fixing the other things... I could

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Sorry @67, perhaps you like to live in an unrealistic world and think we are superior, but I certainly don't. The blind are inferiour in some areas, this is a fact nobody should be ashamed of admitting. Can you drive a car, plane, anything

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? I don't like the science fiction future. It sounds weirdly alienating. I don't know why. Extreme transhumanism and/or brain-linked simulations are clearly the only way to Live the Life I want™. But whenever I hear people talk about those

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jeffb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Given the choice though it is better to be sighted in a sighted world. If this were a underground society of badger moles or or if we were all Earth benders like Toph where we could see with our feet it wouldn't matter. No one is saying it's

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jeffb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Given the choice though it is better to be sighted in a sighted world. If this were a underground society of badger moles or or if we were all Earth benders like Toph where we could see with our feet it wouldn't matter. No one is saying it's

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jeffb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Given the choice though it is better to be sighted in a sighted world. If this were a underground society of badger moles or or if we were all Earth benders like Toph where we could see with our feet it wouldn't matter. No one is sayingit's

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : kjsisco via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? You know it's interesting.  Someone could see this on the web via a search and they would see people on this website saying, "hear yee, hear yee, the blind are inferior!"  What message does this send?  It's bad enough so many p

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? @65To add to that though, we're getting closer to being able to clone organs every day.  Whether that'd come before or after fully functional eye transplantation I don't know and in part it depends how zealous we are about stem cells

Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Rastislav Kiss via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Your choice? Would you restore your vision? Hi there,@50: eyes transplantation is a quite complicated thing, primarily for two reasons. The firstone is the muscular structure around eyes. Muscles like thigh muscle or arm muscle (I don't know the proper english names) are quite simple

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