Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again Hi.Well, problem is though that my device decided to update itself to ios 12.2, so I am out of the jailbreaking business for now.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433567/#p433567 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again Install filza then appsink unified URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433398/#p433398 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again simba wrote:Huh darn, if there would be a way to get those ipas onto your device wirelessly, that would be awesome, my charger is broken, so that's why.Greetings Moritz.If your jailbroken you can, install them from filza URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433395/#p433395 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again Hi. I would just like to chime in and say that I have been doing some experimentation with Cydia impactor along with Zarvox, and it's not that you need it if you are running IOS 11 or 12, you will need it for any IOS version. Also, Zarvox may still be under the impression that Cidia impactor is capable of signing 32bit apps for 64bit devices, unfortunately that is not the case. Audio Defense, being the IPA that we did have at the time, seams to be 64bit compatible, so it installed fine, but later I tried installing some other apps and all of them complained about some kind of binaries, wich have to do with 32bit vs 64bit apps. So bottom line, yes, you can install IPA apps using Cidia impactor, but you can only install apps capable of running on your device, and if it's a 32 bit app, IOS11 or 12 won't accept it at all. I just wanted to make that clear to anyone who wanted to know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433391/#p433391 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again Huh darn, if there would be a way to get those ipas onto your device wirelessly, that would be awesome, my charger is broken, so that's why.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433382/#p433382 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
2019-05-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Zarvox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again If you want to play on iOS 11 or 12 you will need sydia impactor URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433380/#p433380 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again here they are! All three inside a nice .zip. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433378/#p433378 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again @Urh, signature dude, signature. I know you're angry but probably not the best idea. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433376/#p433376 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again So, if I understand right, we should post links to ipas and it will not be a problem. can you do this, defender? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433346/#p433346 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
2019-05-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again As far as I know, there is still no official rule change unfortunately, but after that long discussion in site and forum feedback, the consensus (which included input from multiple mods) ended up being essentially this.We won't worry about copyrighted content until such time as we get a takedown request, and even then unless it becomes a big issue we'll just remove the links or the topic. No one has the time or law knowledge to go through every link, check every file, and keep checking BT Sync folders for changes just to spot potential issues, particularly when we've never actually had problems yet.The exception to that seems to be (unabandoned) audio game pirating/obvious audio game code and asset steeling. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433326/#p433326 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
2019-05-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again As far as I know, there is still no official rule change unfortunately, but after that long discussion in site and forum feedback, the consensus (which included input from multiple mods) ended up being essentially this.We won't worry about copyrighted content until such time as we get a takedown request, and even then unless it becomes a big issue we'll just remove the links or the topic. No one has the time or law knowledge to go through every link, check every file, and keep checking BT Sync folders for changes just to spot potential issues, particularly when we've never actually had problems yet.The exception to that seems to be audio game pirating/obvious audio game code and asset steeling. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433326/#p433326 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
2019-05-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Zarvox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again I modded audio defense sounds. It’s fun. I will post a link of me playing it URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433254/#p433254 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again It's not that the company ignored us. They were split up. Somethin Else is still around as a media distributor, but their game distributions (where the talent really was) was let go. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433253/#p433253 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
2019-05-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Diegogaribay via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again those games were amazing, now the company totally ignores us!! Where is our audio game engine they promised!! where!!! arggg!! why, these games were the best! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433221/#p433221 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again Because here's the potential problem. I paid money for all the games yet I still had to download ipa's because they were purged from the app store. Usually, at least for the audiogames archive, the way we handle games with unknown licenses is that we can't have them officially available until we know how to handle them. This is why BSC was delayed because they were never officially made free until later. A company like Somethin Else, while unfortunately only too happy to cut off its game division, may wish and have the money to fully enforce copyright law. It's not fair, and copyright needs major reform to actually benefit creatives rather than fat corporations, but it is what it is. I'm sorry. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433110/#p433110 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again Because here's the potential problem. I paid money for all the games yet I still had to download ipa's because they were purged from the app store. Usually, at least for the audiogames archive, the way we handle games with unknown licenses is that we can't have them officially available until we know how to handle them. This is why BSC was delayed because they were never officially made free until later. A company like Somethin Else, while unfortunately only too happy to cut off its game division, may wish and have the money to fully enforce copyright law. It's not fair, and copyright needs major reform to actually benefit creatives rather than fat corporations, but it is what it is. Unless of course one of the mods chips in and says otherwise. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433110/#p433110 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again But, here tis the thing: Those games have bin so popular back in days, I really don't understand, why we can't just get the ipas and play them again. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433025/#p433025 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Somethinelse games, again and again Pm's still need to follow official guidelines. So we'll wait and see. I believe there was a topic about this where someone might've posted the link, but I believe it was in that topic I wanted input from the mods. Keep in mind that these games had actual copyrighted material behind them, big-name actors being a great majority of that. I'm sure that is probably why the games hadn't been open sourced. Lot of paperwork would be needed for that, and it's not of interest at this point since Somethin Else got rid of their game development division. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/432890/#p432890 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again just send me a PM Jake URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/432863/#p432863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again k, send me a PM with the Ipa files. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/432843/#p432843 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again
Re: Somethinelse games, again and again I've got all the ipa's, but I'm not very sure if we can have them up. Considering this is not quite Bavisoft due to the transparency of the fact that the games are dead, the games are never really made available for purchase either. Thus, I did ask for moderator opinions on this in the previous topic, but I don't remember them ever chiming in. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/432839/#p432839 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Somethinelse games, again and again
Somethinelse games, again and again Hi, all!I know that this is probably the third topic about somethinelse games, but I have an idea about getting them. So, I've seen that Mazen has a download link to The Nightjar for jailboken devices on his website, and it will be really cool, if he adds more games like Audio defense and Papa Sangre. Can you do that, Mazen? Otherwise, if you can't do that, can you just give an Ipa file for audio defense? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/432830/#p432830 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back I'm no fan of Apple, but even I wouldn't want one of those older phones when you consider what the newer phones offer. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=326136#p326136 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : sanslash332 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back hmm if someone want to grab the ipa files of these games, including some old cracked ipas, can find it on the alternative stores for jailbrocken iOs.In the past, I found some ipas of papasangre1. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325829#p325829 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Yeah. Merek2000 I'd let this be a lesson, as much as it sucks to admit it, companies can pull the switch on your purchases if they so choose. Amazon's done it before, believe me. The most infamous incident involved a copy of the book 1984 I believe. People who purchased it suddenly saw the book disappear from their device and an apology from Amazon. All this happened without warning. The Free Software Foundation, whom now that I've seen them in a better light I'm not entirely supportive of some of their somewhat extremist anti-proprietary views, released a statement basically saying, here's just one more example of how much control companies really have over licensed material. They were right to point that out, but what they failed to consider was the statement that Amazon released, stating the very reason for the removal of the book as an unauthorized reproduction of an otherwise non-public domain work. The difference between Amazon and Apple, is that if memory serves, Amazon refunded. Apple didn't. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325799#p325799 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : raygrote via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Orco is probably right. I've been thinking this for a long time ever since I heard of 32 bit support being dropped. Some apps have already been pulled, both from purchases and from the app store. And i suspect many more will be once 32 bit support is officially dropped. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325781#p325781 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back I suspect that with the advent of iOS 11 and the dropping of 32 bit support, that we'll see a number of 32 bit apps disappear from the app store, especially if they haven't been updated in a while.If you have an older iPhone that won't be able to run iOS 11, and are not planning to upgrade, you should probably grab those apps you want now before they disappear. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325700#p325700 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Hi again,About ther development from SomethinElse, they don't have dis dept. anymore, what means, that they will with 99% probability will not continue on of the development. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325692#p325692 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back And about 64 bit, interesting is, that Papasangre 2 is nto possible to play in ios 11, but papasangre 1 with small tricks yes, same is with the audio defence. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325676#p325676 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Hi all,I will try again explain what I need.About signing the ipa file, could be and couldn't be true, because I tested with older ipa which aren't actually working on ios 9.3.x, the sound is not there only the music, pyu them to the 4s and not required a applied.If I hat signed or unsigned the ipa file, apple could sign it, because they are having the record, that I bought the game.I aree, that is better try to again ressured those games, than left it, in the past many situations changed, but there hat been interested.If you have the ipa file, could I ask you send it, if it will need your ID you are save, because I will be not able to install it.As I wrote the problem was with the backup, where I expected, that everything will be restored, but this wasn't true.For example in the mac appstore, you are eligible download your purchases, despite they aren't in the store, same with the android, but not with IOS. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325675#p325675 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : raygrote via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Orko wrote:The games are gone just as many other audio games have also disappeared. Get over it and move on.It seems every so often, we lose another audio game. As small as the library is, it kinda feels sad to me. I'm at least a little bummed when any game I used to like goes away, even if it's something really stupid that nobody in their right mind would think to play now that supposedly better games are out. Yeah we knew it would come to this long ago, SomethinElse kept putting it out that each iteration of IOS was making things harder and sooner or later they'd just have to quit. But a blunt "get over it and move on" doesn't seem very encouraging in this small community, even if, as repeatedly stated, it's all you can do in this case.Also something else I should mention: The sounds to these games are visible if you downloaded an IPA back when the apps were still b eing sold. You can download IPA files through ITunes, extract them with 7zip and the sounds are right there, no illegal hacking knowledge needed. You can't get IPA files for the games anymore, and if you could I really have no clue how well they'd work, so that's probably why they were pulled from purchases. It strikes me as a little odd that, as damn good as their audio is, it wasn't kept a little more safe. If the sounds were wide open, what else was too? That thought scares me a little bit if I were trying to think from a developer standpoint, and is something worth thinking about when you decide to develop an audio game. How easy is it for people to obtain your assets? Could someone reengineer your game? In the case of SomethinElse I doubt it, though the sounds is over half the assets right there. I do hope if they ever make games again, and I reeeally still hope they do, that they at least have better protection and can somehow... establish better marketting , since I think that was an ongoing struggle for them. Getting enough funding for the games. I know nothing about doing these things, so I can't blame them for having the struggles they did. I probably wouldn't have done 10 percent the work they did if I were trying to do it myself, so I'm not trying to say they did anything wrong. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325614#p325614 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : raygrote via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Orko wrote:The games are gone just as many other audio games have also disappeared. Get over it and move on.It seems every so often, we lose another audio game. As small as the library is, it kinda feels sad to me. I'm at least a little bummed when any game I used to like goes away, even if it's something really stupid that nobody in their right mind would think to play now that supposedly better games are out. Yeah we knew it would come to this long ago, SomethinElse kept putting it out that each iteration of IOS was making things harder and sooner or later they'd just have to quit. But a blunt "get over it and move on" doesn't seem very encouraging in this small community, even if, as repeatedly stated, it's all you can do in this case.Also something else I should mention: The sounds to these games are visible if you downloaded an IPA back when the apps were still b eing sold. You can download IPA files through ITunes, extract them with 7zip and they're right there, no illegal hacking knowledge needed. You can't get IPA files for the games anymore, and if yo could I really have no clue how well they'd work, so that's probably why they were pulled from purchases. It strikes me as a little odd that, as damn good as their audio is, it wasn't kept a little more safe. If the sounds were wide open, what else was too? That thought scares me a little bit if I were trying to think from a developer standpoint, and is something worth thinking about when you decide to develop an audio game. How easy is it for people to obtain your assets? Could someone reengineer your game? In the case of SomethinElse I doubt it, though the sounds is over half the assets right there. I do hope if they ever make games again, and I reeeally still hope they do, that they at least have better protection and can somehow... establish better marketting, s ince I think that was an ongoing struggle for them. Getting enough funding for the games. I know nothing about doing these things, so I can't blame them for having the struggles they did. I probably wouldn't have done 10 percent the work they did if I were trying to do it myself, so I'm not trying to say they did anything wrong. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325614#p325614 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back They would've if they were still around. Even without the 64bit problem, it became very difficult and quite costly to maintain the audio components on Apple's ever-changing hardware. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325609#p325609 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : slender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back So Somethin Else never added 64 bit support to their games? Wasn't that a requirement for new apps for a long time? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325602#p325602 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Hanif, an ipa file is just as easily obtainable as an older m4p file from iTunes. The file itself is right there. Using it is the hard part. Think of it as being given the locking mechanism but no one else but the owner knew the code, and never revealed it. That's what fair play drm is in plain English. Every time you launch a fair play protected file, whether that be a song pre2009, movie, audiobook or paid app, there will be a key check. There's an encrypted repository of keys that are used to decrypt the file. If a key is not found, you will usually be asked to enter your apple id. If you don't provide a valid apple id that paid for the content, you're left no better off than you were before, even though you have the file. Unless of course, you strip the drm, but most drm strippers, rightfully so, check for a downloaded license key before giving you the decrypted version to make sure you're actually decrypting your own content. Or at least, they used to . Lol. The point is, apps are encrypted. And I very much doubt that Apple would take drastic steps to redevelop these games as Merek2000 is possibly suggesting. From a marketing standpoint, they got more important things to do. Bottom line, the games may very well be lost to time. Even if you, a purchaser of the apps, stripped the drm, you'd have to hold onto your older 32bit devices and only folks who had such devices could play the games. Because, starting on ios11, 32bit support is no more, unfortunately. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325595#p325595 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back The games are gone just as many other audio games have also disappeared. Get over it and move on. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325524#p325524 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back I don't think that getting an IPA file is possible, cause that one is tide to one apple account. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325502#p325502 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Hi all,I contacted somethinElse, they replied me in a few mails, why they stopped the development.They didn't want share the source code, when asked, if they can provide me the ipa file, they replied, that not possible, because they don't have any developers team. Recommended me, contact apple.I did it, explainet the situation they promised to do the best and if it will be interesting, they can take care of development game.But still question, is there somebody who is having the latest ipa files of their games? I think, that we will need it. If yes don't write any comments here, but write me a private message please.Thank you in advance. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=325323#p325323 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Yeah probably. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=32#p32 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back I never knew that about that song, but I think that what he did shows that he had a lot of respect and consideration for those families and applaud what he did.It wouldn't surprise me if those families also get a portion of any royalties the song generates. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=324443#p324443 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Have to agree with Orko and Jack on this one. It's time to let this go and move on to bigger and better things. This actually reminds me of a certain episode of The Simpsons. The show's writers wanted to have one of the characters sing Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald into a toy microphone that broadcast to a radio. Unfortunately Gordon Lightfoot arranged things so that in order for anyone to obtain the rights to use that song for anything they had to get permission from the families of all 29 victims of that tragedy, so it would probably have been more trouble than it was worth. I see the same situation here for these games. I think we just have to accept the fact that, sad as it is the games are gone and most likely won't be coming back. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=324395#p324395 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Just like Audio Quake and other similar games.Audio Quake itself is free, but you have to buy the original Quake game because the developers of Audio Quake don't have a license to distribute any of the resources from the original Quake that Audio Quake uses. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=324382#p324382 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back It's a nice idea, but a petition won't do. The fact of the matter is they *can't* continue the project. And I guess I can see why Somethin Else isn't willing to let go of the intellectual property, or can't let go, or what have you. Don't get the idea that Somethin Else just won't let up, I'm sure they'd release the code if they could. The fact of the matter is that it could possibly have to do with the fact that big-name voice actors were hired for the projects, so they may wish to retain their rights. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=324340#p324340 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Yeah. For a project like Tdv it was ok to simply release it under gpl to maintain it as an active project while time permits. Unfortunately not for games that probably had more money invested in them than other audio game developers have been able to invest. It would not be as simple for everyone to agree to release the code under gpl. Make no mistake about it, fair play drm on app store apps could potentially be stripped without having access to a dev team, there are probably guides everywhere that any of the folks over at Somethin Else could refer to. But to release that code under gpl would not be within their agenda, indeed they may never even be able to. Hell, even Dan Zingaro told me that if he were to open source the bsc games, the sounds wouldn't be part of the package nor the encryption mechanism, simply because some of those sounds were either custom made, or raw and unmodified sounds from a library, and it would not be within their legal rights to let those go out in the open. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=324359#p324359 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Yeah, it's not just the program code's license. You'd also have to get all the other artists who aided in creating the game to sign off on the idea too. And even if you accomplished that, if the original development team is no longer available, you have to pay somebody to learn the code to remove the DRM and simply making the game open source or free wouldn't justify that cost.And at only a few bucks I consider most of these very inexpensive or free mobile apps akin to rentware anyway.The games are gone, time to move on to newer games. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=324348#p324348 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
Re: Petition for SomethinElse games to be back It's a nice idea, but a petition won't do. The fact of the matter is they *can't* continue the project. And I guess I can see why Somethin Else isn't willing to let go of the intellectual property, or can't let go, or what have you. It could have something to do with the fact that big-name voice actors were hired for the projects, so they may wish to retain their rights. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=324340#p324340 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Petition for SomethinElse games to be back
2017-08-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Petition for SomethinElse games to be back Hi all,What do you think, make a petition, that games like as Papasangre should be back?Here is answer from Somethinelse, when I wrote them and asked."We are unable to provide a game code as it’s Somethin’ Else intellectual property and we no longer have a development department to provide an updated version."What means, that they should probably develop, but there is nobody. If we get the code, I think, that there should be some of us, who will be able reprogramming for the IOS. What do you think, about this idea? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=324310#p324310 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games
2017-08-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games Hi, It is apple decision, but I want have option to get to the app, which I bought. Why is it possible in Android in 64 bit os I can run 32 bit application?If I will buy windows and will have valid productkey, I should download the iso file and can work. The same with another software.On Applevis was nice discussion, explaining, why they get it out from the apstore, because when something else repaired something, next version of IOS was not working good etc.I could believe or not, but it is another topic.I am having now 1.2.2 version, what will not work on IOS 9.3.5 respective probably working, but no sound. With Papasangre ii it is better, but same with audio defence.With backuping many users are having that the bought applications aren't transferring to the iTunes library, what means,m that their backup mechanismus don't work as we are expecting, like as hard copy of the data. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323535#p323535 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games
2017-08-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : shotgunshell via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games Exactly, it would hurt them a lot, that would teach them never to do something like that again. I know I'm probably never going to pay for another app in the app store again, simply because I don't want to waste money on something that might be pulled a year later. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323477#p323477 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games
2017-08-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : pitermach via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games As awesome as that would be, Apple would end up losing a lot of money over it (remember, they only keep 30% of each sale), so having to refund pulled apps, especially after the big 32-bit purge, would probably make a sizeable dent into their earnings report. That's the really simple reason, there's probably a more concrete rule in either the end-user App Store license or the one that developers sign. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323470#p323470 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games
2017-08-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games Hi,I am having backup of the ios 10.3.2 for my 5s, but when recovering the applications aren't savet and are downloading through the net. And here is a big problem. It can't download anything, what is not awaylable.Don't know, why only older ipa was saved and not newer version.And through my purchases, is not a true, because you don't see it in your purchase, because they aren't in the store anymore.Don't want discuss about what is good or not, but you must understand the flustration, that I bought something and I am not able to get to it, and in this case is, why I created the topis if somebody is having newer ipa than from 2014.Please let me only know, if having or not respective if you can reupload there and we will see. Don't please put anything more to this topic.Big thanks. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323366#p323366 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games
2017-08-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games It's a shame those games were pulled. I really liked them, although I never did manage to beat Papa Sangre 2 because of that damn burning house level LOL. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323306#p323306 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Somethinelse games I actually don't blame Apple for wanting to move Forward. Yes it's uncomfortable and annoying, but really, I completely understand Apple's desire to get on with it and not end up like Microsoft, harbouring old cruft and whinging users unwilling to move on. If we're completely honest, they could just as easily make money from selling apps nobody will want or can't use, on obsolete platforms. But Apple don't do that because their reputation is first and foremost about user experience. Soon, all their hardware will be 64-bit. And developers have had the longest time to transition. 32-bit is just dead wood at this point.What we really need, I think, is DRM elimination and the ability to run old software. If you could keep some old hardware with an older version of iOS on it, and use it to play all the games you legitimately purchased, I could probably forgive what is otherwise a pretty merciless and self-serving move on Apple's part. I just do n't think it's right to take peoples' money away from them, and then blame developers for not being active enough in their store for the losses incurred by users. That really is shitty.@Marek2000: your phone's content can be synced from iTunes. If, when you back up, you also transfer purchases, then you will end up with the data you need for restoration (it searches your iTunes Library based on your settings when you restore). So Transfer Purchases and then back up. If iCloud backup is off, then transfer purchases is done automatically; otherwise it isn't and you have to do it manually. Sorry to bring bad news. It's somewhat ironic, given the topic, that iCloud is not there for you to restore your purchase. In the case of Somethin Else it appears to be that they let their contract expire with Apple's store. If the apps were merely pulled, you could still get them from your Purchases tab with a compatible OS. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323294#p323294 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Somethinelse games I actually don't blame Apple for wanting to move Forward. Yes it's uncomfortable and annoying, but really, I completely understand Apple's desire to get on with it and not end up like Microsoft, harbouring old cruft and whinging users unwilling to move on. If we're completely honest, they could just as easily make money from selling apps nobody will want or can't use, on obsolete platforms. But Apple don't do that because their reputation is first and foremost about user experience. Soon, all their hardware will be 64-bit. And developers have had the longest time to transition. 32-bit is just dead wood at this point.What we really need, I think, is DRM elimination and the ability to run old software. If you could keep some old hardware with an older version of iOS on it, and use it to play all the games you legitimately purchased, I could probably forgive what is otherwise a pretty merciless and self-serving move from Apple's part. I just don't think it's right to take peoples' money away from them, and then blame developers for not being active enough in their store for the losses incurred by users. That really is shitty. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323294#p323294 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games
2017-08-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games ICan't agree because I did backup on iTunes. It will not backup the applications, because when restoring all applications are having status waiting or installing and start changing status, only when I am connected on the net.Means that I am having the backup of the ios 10.3.2 with papasangre and the levels which I did, but when restoring will not restore the game, because is not in the store.I am having only the ipa file from 2014 but this is not working on 9.3.5. respective when sighted person select level nothing happening no sound. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323246#p323246 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Somethinelse games That's the main difference between iTunes and iCloud backups. As an earlier poster said, iCloud only stores the placeholders or pointers to your content, not the actual data itself, whih is the case with iTunes backups. That means that truly full backups are only the ones made through iTunes. It's sad but true and there unfortunately seems to be nothing we can do about this as individual users.Lukas URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323235#p323235 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games
2017-08-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games Hi,But why didn't saved neveew ipa file don't know.I am having ip 4s where is latest 9.3.5. for those games.I received from one colleague and was able to put the ipa file there witouth logging with my applied.Ok if somebody is the love, and can upload the ipa file I should try maximum will not work.When I was in the UK, I could visit them, but didn't expected, that backup will not include the application and will download them from the store. For me looks like that is not full backup or I am havin differend meaning, what is full backup. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323192#p323192 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Somethinelse games There's a lot of games that don't work on iOS for sighted now either, to the poit where a friend of mine baught a lot of telltale games and just can't play them because it literally stops the game from running saying it's incompatable, and that person spent good money on them! So it's definitely not just somethin else that's the issue, and it's a shame because a lot of good games that get pulled, will be lost to time, basically. That's sad. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323193#p323193 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Somethinelse games I'm sure if they could refund us, they would. Hell, I'm sure if they could just put the ipa's up on a site in light of them being pulled from the store, they would. The truth is, Apple of course takes 33% of every purchase, so it's not like all the purchase money went through to a single Paypal account. Second, Apple themselves didn't refund us when they were pulled. If you want y $0.02 worth, as far as handling discontinued apps is concerned, both Apple and Google suck at handling them. I say Google too because a text to speech engine I paid money for was discontinued and pulled from the store, never got a refund, and fortunately was able to get the app back thanks to an old phone backup on my hard drive that had the apk in it. I couldn't do that on an iphone because the IPA files have drm. And even if I got it to work on my device, it wouldn't on anyone elses. So that's the situation as it stands, unfortunately the games left without a tra ce as far as Apple is concerned. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323102#p323102 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games
2017-08-06
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MAREK2000 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Somethinelse games Hi, Ok.Can you pls try download the ipa file I think, that through the itues it will recheck my icloud account and I will be able to login.But now if games were put away and I don't know, why older ipa files I am having only 1.2.2 which aren't working, that the developer shoudl give us moeny back.Not otpic of this threath.Please if you can zip and put to the googledrive or something else and send me a link, can tell you if I was able or not. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323068#p323068 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Somethinelse games Not if they were pulled from the app store you can't. Unless they show up in your purchased apps. Probably wouldn't though, because they were indeed pulled from the store and discontinued. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=323028#p323028 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
